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Well I am drawing a blank.
Guess the page is rest with Toms new server
Jeff
so what happened to the messages?
Lost in cyberspace. Tom might try to bring them back or we can start out from here.
Jeff
Sure Jeff. Let's do that!
So here I ma ready to buy tickets to Melaque. Very expensive for tickets from Vancouver. Almost 1700 Can ! Ouch!
Maybe I should drive down to Seattle!
Have you been to the Melaque area Jeff?
Peter
I do have the old messages but there were many errors when I tried to restore them so I think I'll just leave it alone now that it's finally working.
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My addiction just left town.
Oh No!
Tom, I rely on you and your great website! Tell me its' not so that the messages are gone!
I waited all day to read the comments and messages while I dream of Melaque in March........
With great hope I wait for the messages to re-appear!
:-) Peter
Yes Peter I have been to Melque. It has been a few years though. My family and I are heading to La Manzanilla in 26 days. Not that I am counting. Air fare on America West, check it out SEA to ZLO on wednesdays or Saturdays under $ 400.00 USD with three weeks out.
Jeff
Peter, check the expedia.ca website for a price to Manzanillo. It should be cheaper that what you have quoted here, a little any way. We are heading down there in 11 days and I am counting the days. Good luck, Linda.
Hi all -
We're heading to Barra on 2/8. Staying at Posado Pacifo. Do you know if there are kitchenettes available?
If not, any place in town to pick up an inexpensive cooler?
Also...we're renting a car at the airport...any hints on the drive to Barra?
Thanks a lot!
Jo
My family and I are heading down to the Melaque area in 3 weeks and plan on staying in La Manzanilla. I was wondering if anyone had names of some places to stay in that village.
Try www.lamanzanillamexico.info
Just need to get some ideas about costs in Melaque and Bara these days. Planning on a trip for the first 2 weeks of March. Of course part of my budget includes a box of ear plugs so that I can get some sleep when the fireworks go off at 3 or 4 in the morning. :-) I am interested in the average cost of meals etc. for two people. Sone restaurants we went to in year 2000 were pretty expensive. I hear a lot about some popular restaurants in Bara but would like to get an idea on prices.
Corona! The one staple of our trip to Mexico. So how much is a case these days? :-)
Also, tours or rides to the beachs further north. Our last trip (2000) we drove with some new found friends to Tenacatita. They had a rental car. However I don't really want to rent a vehicle. I would like to know who to contact and what it may cost to have transportation to those kind of beaches.
Bikes. So does anyone know who we can contact about renting bikes, maybe by the week. My wife and I are thinking that we can bike from Melaque to Bara. Not that we mind the buses (especially the in town ones) but we would like to get some activity going from place to place.
Some of these questions I posted yesterday and got some replys. But since those messages are gone for now I am trying again for some answers. This time I will print the responses as soon as I see them. :-) Thanks all. Peter
hi yes there are kitchenettes a the hotel pacifico, well some rooms have em anyhow.... and the drive to barra is about a half hour, and the only thing to watch for are the topas those are the speed bumps in the middle of the road,, just slow down and listen to the muffler system from the previous travellers :) enjoy
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Hello does anyone know how the tournament went? Also please send us your photos and we will post them on our site.
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This topic is a few days old, actually, that got lost in the move -- not that I was bombarded with responses anyway, but I'll try again. I'm trying to put together a list of local fiestas and events for visitors to La Manzanilla, and the internet listings I've found encompass mostly national holidays.
I know, for example, that La Manzanilla's Fiesta de Toros (Rodeo Days) are usually held the first full weekend in February (the 7th, 8th, & 9th this year if you're interested) and that San Patricio usually celebrates St. Patrick's Day. But what about Melaque, Villa Obregon, Cuastecomates, Cihuatlan, El Rebalcito, Tenacatita, Miguel Hidalgo, Emiliano Zapata/Francisco Villa and other area towns that hold annual celebrations? I've been to most of them and must have had too good a time, because I can't remember when they were.
I know a lot of "locals" read this site and can probably help me fill in the blanks. Not only will I appreciate any info you can give me, but so will the visitors who'll know when and where to go to experience a real Mexican fiesta. You can post your responses here or email me direct to avoid clutter on Tom's clean new site.
Thanx in advance.
PS Nice job, Tom, as always! Thanx for the new La Manz comment section.
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I have a couple of friends who would like to come down to Melaque with us for a holiday , one request that they have is to find out if there is an AA meeting in Melaque . I know this question has been asked before but I can't remember what the answer was . So if anyone can tell me if there is a meeting I will pass the information on to them . Thanks , Jim
Food costs really depend on what you like to eat. We were just there in December and ate at come great taco stands, filling 3 teenagers and two adults for about 100 pesos. Meals at Bigotes on the beach are between 50 and 80 pesos per person. Beer at Bigotes is 12 pesos and up, or 17 pesos during happy hour (2 pm - ?) which really makes them 8.5 pesos each.
A case of 20 cerveza is less than 100 pesos - usually about 85-95.
A taxi ride from Melaque to Tenacatita is about 440 pesos return. (They have set rates). There is excellent Rollo del Mar in Tenacatita for about 75 pesos. Cerveza there is about 10-12 pesos.
In Barra, we could not find cheap taco stands. There is a nice taco "Stand", really more of a sit-down place, in the square. I think it cost our family of 5 about 200 pesos there. There is also a very quaint restaurant one block further away from the beach than main street, near the entrance to town - the name escapes me at the moment but the food and the older couple that run it are really nice. Most of the other restaurants we saw were a bit more money. The seafood restaurants entrees seemed to be closer to 100 pesos each. Booze in Barra costs more than Melaque. There is excellent fresh seafood available in Barra near the lagoon, which we cooked ourselves and enjoyed immensely.
I think beer was about 90 pesos a case of 20. Deposit return was 4 pesos per bottle I think. This was in December. Ray of Tours Costa Alegra takes day trips to Tenacatita, Boca, etc. as well as to Colima and he has mountain bikes for rent. His palapa is around the corner from Bananarama and just next to La Paloma in Melaque. Restaurant meals vary depending on the type of place and menu. Most of the places in the downtoun Melaque area are very cheap. You just have to look around.
We got ours for $288 RT Seattle to Manzanillo through May on Alaskan. Check travelocity [%sig%]
I see on this website that Bungalos Orientales is listed at $59US per night. I've stayed there in the past two years and only paid $38US per night. Any confirmation out there that the price has gone up by that much?
Thanks for the advice :-) Any tips on other beaches to see, North or South of Melaque. Or how about some interior locations?
Also I remember reading about one of the restaurants in Melaque (or Bara) to stay away from since they reportedly ripped people off. Anyone recall the name?
Here is a long shot question:Back in 2000 my wife and I took the boat over to the Grand. While on the boat we met a young man who turned out to be the manager of the Grand owner's home ( the big private place on the right ). He was great and took us on a personal 2 hour tour of the home. We just can't remember his name or the name of the home. Apparently in 2000 they were just thinking of renting out some of the family suites in the home. Anyway, has anyone run into this person?
Thanks Peter
Hey, thanks for all the travel cost tips. I will search around. The one from travelocity sounds good, I'll check it out :-) Peter
I recall the posting also. There were meetings in Manzanillo and I believe they were associated with a treatment center. Undoubtedly in Spanish.
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Sandra:
What is the WEb site for Bungalos Orientales? Would you recommend it as a place to stay?
Garth and Donna
My wife and I are booked to arrive in either Barra or Melaque for 18 nights starting February 23. We are looking for a place with a kitchenete and a pool. We would like to keep our accomodation expenses under $800 US. Obviously we would like to have clean, safe and reasonably modern facilities.
Are we asking too much or wanting to pay too little? Do you have any places you could recommend. Are you in a good bargaining position if you arrive on site and look for a place?
Any help that you can be would be appreciated.....
Thanks Donna and Garth King
The webpage for the Bungalows Orientales is: http://www.tomzap.com/morient.html I've heard good and bad (lack of privacy) comments about this place. Click on "Melaque" at the top right hand corner of this page, Then when you click on "hotels" you'll see a listing by price category. In 2000 we stayed at Tennis El Palmar, which was beautiful. It is a little walk (maybe 10-15 minutes) to the town centre. But they supply mountain bikes to get around. They have kitchens, a nice ozonated pool and a view of the ocean from the second floor. It's across the street from the beach.
I wouldnt stay there again, had bad time this year! if you want more info e mail me.
I have stayed there before and found it to be an acceptable mid-price-range hotel. Just wondering if the price quoted on the Tomzap website is correct.
Bungalows del Tulle at the Barra end of Melaque is safe reasonable and about a 15 minute walk to downtown. On the beach with a good pool. There are several complexs here and the owner Fidel and wife Blanca are decent people. We would stay there again and you might get a room without reservations but who knows? It is the last Hotel on the beach , and you can walk to Barra on the beach in 30 mins. Have fun, yours Brian
Sandrak , I think you will get a better choice of places to stay if you just put , costa legre travel guide in your search box . Jim
I believe the restaurant you are referring to is Los Arcos. It is run by some very good friends of mine, an older couple named Mario and Cuca. They also have a very cool resident parrot named Monica. Cuca is a fabulous cook, I salivate just thinking of being in Barra and enjoying another of her meals. ; - ) [%sig%]
I am using new forum software and there are some new features. You can log on and create a user profile. This allows you to edit your own posts after posting, create a personal signature, and to change the menu language. Right now the default language is Spanglish. I think there may be some other features but I'm not sure what they are right now. I'll read the manual as soon as I get everything configured. :-)
Logging on is optional. Expect some bugs with these new features.
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Try Dave Collins in neighboring La Manzanilla at: www.immersionadventures.com. He specializes in kayaking on Tenacatita Bay and trips to the mountains above Colima!
Yes, I've heard there are AA meetings -- in English -- somewhere in Melaque. I don't know where or when, but I'll try to find out in case no one else supplies a timely answer.
Keep up the great work Tom. You're efforts are much appreciated! For us our trips to Mexico include your website for planning the perfect trip.
Peter
I agree with Peter , you are doing a bang up job Tom , keep it up . Jim
Thanks JJ, I am sure my friends will reall appreciate anything you can find out for them . Regards, Jim
Hi Tom, really, that's great. Thank you very much, and still, hope to see you soon here in Melaque. Take care and keep up the good work !! Regards...Victor
Looks good Tom ... the one thing I miss (besides a time resembling North America) ... is the new messages marked on a thread (the cookie thing). Have to look too hard at the dates.
Thanks for the good work!
Also Tom ... like I wrote you earlier ... I can't post as "sparks" I think one of our Barra buddies beat me
What a shame all the old messages, with loads of information I had been referring to for an upcoming trip, have been lost! The "old messages" feature does not retrieve them. Could it be because there was some very important (albeit frightening) information about Chagas Disease, transmitted by a parasite, and potentially deadly, for which there is no known cure? The public has a right to be aware of this. If you don't allow negative information on these posts, then they have little value. People don't want to just read the good stuff.
It's too bad that all the old messages seem to have been lost. I had been referring to them for an upcoming trip, and cannot retrieve them with the "old messages" feature. Could it be because there was some very important (albeit frightening) information about Chagas Disease, carried by a parasite, possibly deadly, for which there is no known cure? The public has a right to be made aware of potential health hazards.
For bike rentals contact Ray or Eva at CostaAlegre Tours 355-6777, located in Melaque near the beach, north of La Paloma in the same block. They charge $100 pesos a day with ID, don't know if they have weekly rates. Ray and Eva also have a suburban with federal plates (which means they are legal to transport people). They do trips to Tenacatita that include snorkeling gear, boogie boards, shade umbrellas, beach mats, coolers etc. Snorkeling and lunch (lunch not included) at Tenacatita, then boogie boarding at Boca de Iguanas (optional) then home via La Manzanilla to see the crocodiles -- $200 pesos per person, call him for details the trips don't go every day. He also does Colima, Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta.
If your interested in a bike tour on the back roads contact Enrique Palominos at info@seatosierra.com.. He has several tours two of which are really easy and on completely flat ground, five of which involve a bit of climbing. The two easy ones go from: 1) Barra, around the lagoon to Colimia and back to Barra by Panga 2.)Melaque to Barra and back completely on backroads to avoid the highway and see some of the area.
Mike .. it's nothing personal or aimed at Chagas Disease. If you have ever rebuilt a server and attempted to migrate a message base .. you might understand.
Jorge is the manager of the Mason Dona Paz next to the Grand Bay Hotel.
I have noticed that some places mention "secure parking". Is there not plenty of parking available? Is vandalism a problem? I will be driving a rental car. Any information will be appreciated.(I plan to drive ZLO to Barra and/or Melaque, perhaps up and down the coast, maybe stay Barra/Melaque area as a base.)
Hi Tom, We are leaving for Melaque Jan 25th. I log onto this excellent site daily. I was surprised to log on just now to find an entirely different format from what I saw yesterday. Hope I have not missed any of the postings as I am interested in what all visitors have to say.I see that there are "new features"being introduced so I will be patient. Thanks for providing this message board--it really is informative. Heather
Depends on the place ... Orientales, Puesta del Sol, Monterrey (for a few) have inclosed parking (not locked behind a gate). Many only have street parking. Not a large concern that I have noticed.
This is great, keep it coming :-) Peternan wrote: > Jorge is the manager of the Mason Dona Paz next to the Grand > Bay Hotel.
Come on Mike. If you have have seen the prior posts you know that nothing is blocked, good or bad.
Tom is trying to improve the site, not hide anything.
Anyway, if anyone is really concerned about alerts to foreign countries then they should check with their own countries travel alert and warnings. Most countries have such resources and if not then check with a travel agent.
As a last point I think that Tom would be the first to protect his web followers (:-)) and let them know if something was out there to harm them! His work to date has only shown that he has the best interests in mind for all visitors, newbies or experienced.
Don't mean to come down hard on you Mike but I feel kinda of protective of Tom.
Peter
Come on Mike. If you have have seen the prior posts you know that nothing is blocked, good or bad.
Tom is trying to improve the site, not hide anything.
Anyway, if anyone is really concerned about alerts to foreign countries then they should check with their own countries travel alert and warnings. Most countries have such resources and if not then check with a travel agent.
As a last point I think that Tom would be the first to protect his web followers (:-)) and let them know if something was out there to harm them! His work to date has only shown that he has the best interests in mind for all visitors, newbies or experienced.
Don't mean to come down hard on you Mike but I feel kinda of protective of Tom.
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Tom, welcome back, you wern't gone too long! Bob
There is a small notice board at the Hawaii market that last year had posted AA meetings in Melaque. Never went but i do believe they have that support group there. Bob
Because the archives were wiped out and this was a popular question with the lazy writers ( no body every tries the search method) the cab ride from the airport to Barra is $29US and to Melaque $35US but if you want a cheaper price, walk the 1/4 mile to the main road and get one of the Barra/Melaque taxis waiting for a walk-in fare. They will charge you much cheaper rates because they do not pay the fee to service the airport.
Chaga's disease new? I was turned down in Austin as a blood donor for a period way back in the early '90's because I reported sleeping under a palapa. And both Tom and I warned the boards that the old threads were likely to be lost before Chaga's became a hot topic...
As some of you know I haved been posting questions about Melaque. My wife and I went there once and loved the people and the Mexican way of life. Sure we ran into some sights that weren't very appealing but hey what we saw was the real Mexico. Not masked or hidden by a luxury resort.
But then comes the pricing and the beachs. I, like I'm sure many of you, have looked high and low for a good vacation package. Came across some all inclusives for Punta Cana in Dominican Republic. The beaches are so nice and clean with blue/green waters etc. But I feel the atmosphere is unreal since it doesn't reflect the real Dominican Republic.
Now to the reason of my message. Just for feed back, are there any of you out there that have experienced both. What are your thoughts and what is it that brings you back to Melaque?
Just curious.
Peter
just wanted to say keep up the good work tom, i spend 4 months in barra last year.. didnt know about this site before i went , i love it :)
Hmmmm ... lets see!
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Peter, the DR might be an option,but Cancun, PV and Miami Beach should also be added to your list as well as Veradaro. I guess it's really what you personally get out of a vacation, do you want the glitz or do you feel more comfortable in a more laid back enviroment! Personnaly what keeps us coming back is all the reasons you list above! Bob
mike bavers writes: "....Could it be because there was some very important (albeit frightening) information about Chagas Disease, carried by a parasite, possibly deadly, for which there is no known cure? The public has a right to be made aware of potential health hazards." This level of paranoia about censorship is both unwarranted and distasteful. Additionally, how do you have any idea that the information that was posted was actually accurate? One of the posts on the topic that was lost during the conversion was actually quite riddled with inaccuracies.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Division of Parastic Diseases offers up a good summary of risk factors/avoidance in their fact sheet on Chagas Disease. Specifically, they state: =============== Who is at risk for Chagas disease?
Those people who sleep in poorly constructed houses found in the rural areas of the above-mentioned countries (ET - Mexico is on the list) are at elevated risk of infection. Houses constructed from mud, adobe, or thatch present the greatest risk.
Travelers planning to stay in hotels, resorts, or other well-constructed housing facilities are NOT at high risk for contracting Chagas disease from reduviid bugs.
How can I prevent Chagas disease?
* Avoid sleeping in thatch, mud, or adobe houses. * Use insecticides to kill insects and reduce the risk of transmission. * Be aware that, in some countries, the blood supply may not always be screened for Chagas disease, and blood transfusions may carry a risk of infection. =============== From questions and comments you've made in past postings, it really doesn't sound like you're in a high risk category. Nonetheless, I'd strongly encourage you to educate yourself; a good starting point would be to read the CDC's fact sheet at <http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/chagasdisease/factsht_chagas_disease.htm>. Now ease off.
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The resorts in the Dominican Republic are constructed with high, strong walls and come complete with tight security, sort of like Jamaica but more so, and for even better reasons. While many wary and experienced travelors have left the resort compounds in both countries with no disasterous effects, neither is a place you want to go off-property and get drunk and careless. Melaque is a different story all together. While there have been incidents, they are few and far between. In Melaque, you're ENCOURAGED to get to know the locals.
If you've been there, you would know that the airport is 5 kilometers to the main road.
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The Melaque taxi is also 290 pesos ... but with the peso at 10.60 now, even cheaper. 10.20 in November and 9.80 two years ago.
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La Manzanilla's fiesta starts Feb.6...it is always a 4 day event...Gringo day is the 7th...
Will be staying in La Manzanilla for 10 days in February and would love advice on places to buy groceries, beer, liquor etc..Good restaurants to visit, favourite Palapa, best part of beach to vegetate at. Also any info on bus departures to Melaque. One of our favourite beaches was Tenacatita on our last visit but won't have a car this time, any suggestions on how best to get back and forth there especially how to get a taxi back to La Manzanilla? We also loved the square in La Manzanilla, is there best time towards evening to be a part of the gathering of people before dinner.
Thanks for all your help....plus kudos to Tom for this great site.
This is called Bungalows Laguna del Tule and you can email them by sending it to bungalowslagunadeltule@yahoo.com. They are reasonably priced and are very nice and quiet being at the far end of town. I have arrived there without reservations many times and got room but you are going at their busy time of year.
Does any know if the internet cafe in Barra has a CD burner. We have a digital camera and to save space on the cards we would like to be able to burn them onto a CD, or will we have to bring a disc with us? We leave in three weeks time and can't wait to get there are weather is really cold here. Another thing, in the old messages we had a question about buses from PV to Barra. Since all those are now gone can anyone help us? We arrive in PV on Fe.b 10 at 1:10 and I know that the first class bus leaves at 12:30. Will we have to overnight it in PV or is there other buses going, or any other means of transport to Barra.
Thanks
Hi Tom: Your site is terrific. We are going to Barra Feb. 10 and your site has been excellent help. I have found out a lot about Barra just from this alone. Keep up the good work. Also planning on taking in the party in Barra on Feb. 13. Keep up the good work. Planning on still checking the site till we leave.
You can e-mail Pedro Flores in Barra. He operates the internet cafe/money echange. His address is ciberbarra@hotmail.com
Hi Sandy!, We are located at Miguel Lopez de Legazpi & Yucatan in Barra de Navidad Alice's Restaurant......Just in front of Sea Master Cafe We'll be glad to help you burning anything you want. And if you have any kind of software(cd) of you digital camara, please bring it. We are open from 9 to 11 pm,,, and we serve beers also
We have stayed in Orientales many times over the years, and other places on both side of town. Like everywhere in Melaque. It will get noisey on the weekends. All prices are negoitable, as with anywhere,they post a "rack-rate"(high-end).The longer you stay, the rates go down. Rooms on the calle(roadside) are less$$....but all the rooms have screens...so with 60 rooms and most have TV...it's noisey.But, HEY-This is Mexico!....it is noisey!...Bring earplugs.Get a room away from the stairs or at the end of the walk. But the location is great,and a 6 min. walk to downtown. The 2brm units are spacious and well appointed,the 1 bedrooms are great for singles or couple.We stayed in a one-brm and pushed the two singles together to make a KING.There are many folks who return each year.This is a family owned business with the daughters taking turns managing. No need to reserve ahead if you arrive on Sun. or mid-week.Book a room for a night or two.....and check out the other places..Xmas is over, so the choices are numerous.Villas Camino Del Mar, right next door, Casa De Juanito, Santa Maria, Bungalows Azteca,Posada Cervantes and Bungalows Mallorca just one and two and 3 blocks further down.There are also numerous other great places,some brand new, not listed.The worst thing to have happen is to pre-pay for two weeks on a place and be un-happy.Be adventureous! Isn't why you are there?... Shop around...they all have their quirks and perks.You will find a place that suits you....Feliz Viaje!..N
Hey! If anyone can answer my mail : I am looking for an old friend that spends all his winters in Barra. His name is Edgar, a mexican, easy to recognize with his white dog Oso. He usually sells jewellery besides the beach, I was there with him the winters of 1999 and 2000. If anyone sees him, I would love to have contact with him again just to know if he is back this year because I will probably come back in February. My 'mexican' name is Genoveva, because I am a french canadian nobody can pronounce my name right (Genevičve). I would love just to have a phone number, address or e-mail that could help me join him. Thanks in advance!
Jorge is right for the name of the guy you are looking for the dona paz house. Just one piece of advice if you want to rent overthere : it is very, very expensive. I know the rates since I worked at the reception of the Gran Bay hotel and let me tell you that there is nothing under 250 $ US a night during winter. If you have the money, enjoy yourselfs overthere, it is really beautiful. But I just don't know if they started to rent the house, before it was the house reserved for the family of the owners of the hotel.
Look on La Manzanilla message board
U R the bestus Senor Tom!
Boy, is my face red! See why I need help filling in the blanks of all the fiestas?
What is gringo day?
Anybody know about Colima and Guadalajara fiestas?
You might try these two links on Colima. The first one, by Wendy Devlin, mentions something in Feburary. I think a fiesta calendar should part of any major article or web site.
<http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdcolima1.html> <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/colima/colimaindex.html> I won't even try with Guadalajara I also saw nothing on the <http://gomanzanillo.com> web site but there may be info in Susans guide books.
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Can anyone just go and spend a day at grand bay and use the facilities? I have heard they have a water slide and wonder if we eat and drink if that is available to us or if we have to be staying in the hotel...
In 2000 my wife and I went there a got a tour by the manager of the owner's home. That was just pure luck. He then arranged a bus for us to the Golf Course restaurant. It was great and cheap. We then walked around the Grand hotel and checked our the streets.
However we then talked to a couple that went the next day. What happens is that you are met at the dock by a Grand employee. He asks if you are a visitor or guest. You have to say visitor since he asks you about your room number if you try saying guest. :-) He then asks you what you will be doing. If you just say " looking around " then he will likely have you escorted to the lobby so that another staff member can show your arround.
The coupled I spoke of felt like they were being watched. They had no real freedom to just wander.
If you go just tell the "dock man" ( as opposed to "doorman") that you are going golfing. Then wait for the shuttle bus. Hop on and after the golf course just walk you way around. By the way, it is a very large place.
Again, this is what happened to us in 2000. Maybe things have changed since then.
Peter
ET, you said it all , by the way who is Mike Bavers to come in here and start to make accusations ? I for one have been coming to Mexico for many years and slept in some of the poorest areas in Brazil ,and never once had concerns . I think Mike should stay home . Or better yet e mail Brandon and get the facts . Jim
Hola!
The Blue Bay is now called Sun Resorts. I believe you pay a day fee (?) to spend time there. You can also spend the day for free in the village of La Manzanilla. Just take the La Manzanilla exit (kilometer marker 14), head stariaght to the beach, hang a left at the T, go one block and hang a right and you're at El Boca's. My favorite sand floored, palapa roofed mom & pop restaurant. Park there, order some fried shrimp, and wash it all down with an ice cold cerveza. A front row seat to Brown pelicans diving for their dinner, Frigate birds soaring overhead, and local fisherman boating home with the catch of the day!
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Mexico! Sounds so sweet just got a go!!!!
Julie is talking about the GRAND BAY which is in Bara de Navidad NOT THE BLUE BAY which is up north of Melaque/Barra de Navidad.
I work for the Pan Pacific Hotel (a 5 diamond hotel) in Vancouver and was curious to check out the Grand Bay hotel. My wife and I took a boat over to check it out and didn't even make it past the 'doorman' at the dock. We said we'd like to walk around and were firmly pointed back to the dock and asked to leave. We were told that unless we were guests at the hotel, we couldn't walk around. I suspect my latino appearance didn't help matters, as I am often mistaken for a local mexican. Being used to the open policy of the hotel where work, where people are encouraged to walk around and check thing out, I was very disappointed. This happened in Feb 2002, so seems not much has changed. We're going back to Barra this year, and will stick to the main part of town.
Genoveva: I posted about Grand Bay then saw that you had worked there. Can you tell me how difficult it would be for me and my guests to go and spend 2-3 hours there for lunch and use of the water slide and pool? We are staying in Barra but would love to go there for a while. We would go by car. We have been there before and found it easy to get inside but did not go into the hotel. thanks Julie
Genoveva: I posted about Grand Bay then saw that you had worked there. Can you tell me how difficult it would be for me and my guests to go and spend 2-3 hours there for lunch and use of the water slide and pool? We are staying in Barra but would love to go there for a while. We would go by car. We have been there before and found it easy to get inside but did not go into the hotel. thanks Julie
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There is a www.msbyth.com have you maybe typed the address wrong? Let me know if you cant get there! Rooster
Has anyone stayed at the Bungalows Mayorica in Melaque?
If so what comments do you have. Are the accomdations reasonable and how are they located in relation to the rest of the town?
Any help is appreciated.
Donna and Garth King
What is the lastest on teh mosquitos?
We are use to Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlan where mosquitos are an unknown?
We hate to slapping the little critters all of the time while on vacation> If anyone is currently in Melaque and has an update, it would be appreciated.
Donna and Garth King
My wife and I were in Barra last January. We took a pango over to the Grand Bay, were met on the wharf, and he called for an escort, who showed us around. This is a very big and impressive resort operation. Our escort was very friendly, and obviously proud of the place. When the tour was over, we were left in the bar/restaurant, and invited to eat or drink, then return to the dock. We had a quiet cervasa, overlooking the marina. Then we strolled over to the dock and returned to Barra. We had a very friendly reception, and many gringos from Barra were doing this on a regular basis. Have fun, Smoky
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I wouldn't have replied because I havn't been in the Dominion Republic But John compared it to Jamaica and I have bad memories having been there alright. My wife an I booked into a resort about 20 miles from Montego bay but didn't like being cooped up there so we took a taxi to Montego Bay where we rented a car (no car rentals in the resort) and booked into a motel run by white people.(98 % of Jamaica is black, 1% white and the remainder mixed). We stayed at that motel for a week and kept the car for a week. When driving around with the car people would throw sticks and stuff at it. Cashiers in little stores sit in a barred cage. When by myself I constantly was offered girls, boys, drugs, illigal money exchange ,ect. The filth was incredible, Melaque is clinically clean in comparison. We didn't dare going to the beach which was pretty well deserted. Our flight out left from Kingston on the other side of Jamaica and driving through Kingston we didn't dare to stop the car. Masses of people on the streets with bad vibes, to say the least. We returned the car 6 hours early at the Kingston airport and happily sat at the airport for 6 hours waiting for the plane. Never again!
Drove to Melaque 3 times, never had any trouble there, lotsa fun though.
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Hi Garth, at the opposite end of the Bay is the hotel de Legazpi. The beach is safe to swim in at that end and it is quiet. Send E-mail to: hlegazpi@prodigy.net.mx Marty
I drove to, and stayed around Melaque and Barra 3 times for a month each time.Parked all over, never any trouble. Never had secure parking at the places we stayed, parked on the street. Don't leave anything in the car though. I noticed that some people just leave the car parked unlocked, saves possible damage from possible breakins.
After much searching and getting various opinions I decided that we will be sticking with our Melaque plans.
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Hi All - Heading to Barra in the next month. What can we expect weather-wise? Is the water warm enough to swim in?
Thanks!
Jo
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Peter: My buddy and I have been travelling to Puerto Vallarta and then on to Barra de Navidad and Melaque each year for the past 4 years. And we just happen to live in Kamloops. If you want to chat or just shoot the breeze we have been known to hang out at the Fox or you could try 319-4448. Sean
Water is plenty warm enough to swim in --- lol. Obviously you are a new visitor to Mexico, much less Barra. Weather is warm during the day, comfortably cooler at night.
We took the panga over to the Grand Bay on the Sunday before Christmas, and were told that it was quite busy with guests, so we were not welcome around the hotel, but we could walk around the grounds. We decided to get off at the marina, and were able to walk all around there without anyone bothering us at all. Then we walked through the grounds, out the gate and over to Colimilla, where we had a cerveza at one of the waterfront restaurants. It was no problem to walk back into the grounds, through the guarded gate, and then we got brave and checked out the hotel reception area. There they did seem to be watching us much more closely, so we just admired the lobby, took a few picture of the view, and retreated back outside.
We wandered around some more, viewed the pool (the "waterslide" is just a little thing linking two different levels of the pool), and then found our way back to the marina to catch a ride back to Barra.
We were told by other "day visitors" to the Grand Bay that it is no problem to go to one of the restaurants there for a meal. Apparently the restaurant at the golf course is very nice. Just dress up nice when you visit - try to "blend in"!
We were there in December. It is a lovely beachside location, nice pool, nice people. Very "Mexican". The beds are mattresses on cement (rather common in Melaque, from what we saw elsewhere), the kitchen equipment has seen better days, but there was purified water, a fridge, stove, microwave, and cold beer and pop available from the office. Probably not quite the same as your comforts of home, but do you want comfortable furniture, or warm sunshine and ocean? We got all our info. from the website, and we were not disappointed when we saw it in real life. It was pretty much what we expected!
The prices are very reasonable, which probably explains why they were busier than many of the other beachside hotels! It is located in Villa Obregon, a very small village adjacent to Melaque/San Patricio. There are a few stores and restaurants very close by, and it is just a 10 minute walk into the main part of Melaque. Excellent tacos available in Villa Obregon at Rosa's!
The people we met were very friendly, nice vendors selling tamales, cheese, silver, etc....Very relaxed atmosphere, and some friendly gringos who have settled in for the winter there too.
The suites face the pool, so you do not have your own balcony facing the ocean, but it is only a few steps out to the beach anyway.
We have also heard very nice things about Laguna del Tula, but it is another 5-10 minutes away from town, and so the walk can be a bit much If you want to know more, just email me back. We checked out quite a few places when we were there, and we also stayed in Barra for 8 days, so have a fair bit of recent exp.!
Pegster, yes the restaurant was Los Arcos. It was very nice. Now there is ANOTHER place called Los Arcos...on the main street - capitalizing on the fame of the original?
For anyone going to Melaque or Barra - it is easy to get advice about where is good to eat, etc., from anyone else you meet . Everyone loves to show off their local knowledge! (especially the gringos who have been there longer than you!) We would ask everyone we met for their favourites, and then go to the places whose names came up most frequently. We were never disappointed!
Take some repellant if you would like to be outside at dusk. (Say, for a walk into town?) They seem to be the worst around 5:30 - 8 pm. It is not bad, but there are a few of them around, and if you happen to be the tasty morsel they are looking for, you will probably get a few bites!
We strolled around the Orientales and thought it was very beautiful. It has a very nice shaded pool area overlooking the beach. They quoted rates of less than $40 per night for a family of 5 in a 2 bdrm unit - less per night the longer you stay.
There are only screens on the windows, so noise might be an issue? I would like to try staying there for a few days the next time I visit - the setting was very lovely.
I think the biggest deterrant to any location would be the presence of cockroaches. The Orientales looked okay for that, when we were there in Dec. Most places spray for bugs regularly, I am told.
For up to 3 people, it is 290 pesos to Melaque. For 4-8 people, a larger vehicle is used, and it costs 520 pesos. They were giving an exchange rate of less than 10 when converting to US dollars, in December. Use your bank card and get some pesos at the ATM in the airport if you wish.
The rates are posted at the airport, and only marginally more than a return trip back to the airport. (250 pesos from Barra to the airport).
The taxi drivers are very fair and punctual and all the rates are posted.
Hello!
I worked at the Gran Bay in 1999 at the reception. For those outsiders who don't want to rent a room and just walk around the hotel (and maybe take a drink) have to be warned. The security overthere is very much present and you have to ask very nicely to have a permision to have a look around. Most of the time, they give you a visitor pass so you can go and take a drink around the pool : if you're lucky one of the managers will give you a tour you are not aloud to make alone. I have to mention that the people from Barra used to refer to the Gran Bay as the golden prison. I look a little pessimist saying that but it is worth taking a look at : the hotel is beautiful. Don't forget : you have to be dressed nicely, otherwise without any questions asked they will not accept you. It is a five star hotel, don't be surprised by the fact that you can be watched closely. But certainly, it is worth taking a look, even if it's from the lancha (or panga) just going by the marina. Have a nice visit!
Laurel...We are going to be staying at Bungalows Mayorca for the month of Feb. Are there anythings that you would advise us to bring from home...eg. frying pan, spatula, etc... I'd also be interested to know if they have any lawn carts around the pool or on the beach. They don't show any in the pictures on their website. If you can think of anything that we should bring with us (nothing too big as we are flying there), please let me know. Thanks a lot....Karen
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We stayed at Bungalows Mayorca in November. It was great. Because it was off season, we got the front room on the ground floor with a big patio facing the ocean. Well worth the extra pesos. But all the rooms we looked at were spotless, and very well equipped compared to other Melaque bungalows. (I've also stayed in Vista Hermosa and Bungalows Azteca, and looked at a few other hotels.) Eva the manager speaks good English. All the staff are very friendly, and will go out of their way to help. There are lawn chairs around the pool. I would advise bringing your own big beach towel, and dish and laundry soap. Also coffee filters for the coffee maker, although Alex's grocery sells them. The coffee maker in our room used the flat bottom type. Also, there was no salt and pepper in the kitchen. Now that the tourist season is well underway, other guests may have left some of these items behind that you can use, but when we were there the hotel was virtually empty, and kitchens lacked those items. No need to bring any kitchen equipment, there was a good supply of pots, pans, spatula, cutlery, dishes, etc. Dish and tea towels were replaced daily. I highly recommend the Bungalows Mayorca. If you have any more questions feel free to e-mail me directly.
Salt and Pepper always seem to be an issue, Pepper more than Salt. With the new Grocery stores in Melaque, I doubt it will be too difficult. We love shopping for kitchen items as needed and are always faciniated with the low prices. I would never consider bringing items with me just because of the space and weight alone when you can have plenty of fun buying items there. Plus, it does contibrute to the local economy. I have purchased anything for Hair Color to Blenders. It's fun.
Thank you so much Carlos! Very nice of you!
I have been to Barre twice before and always stayed at the Pasada Pacifico. I don't like to spend anymore than 35-40 Canadain/night. Does anyone know aht the Sands hotel is charging right now? what about the Hotel Caribe?
I miss the "new" signal also. Anything to do about that? This is the best site. Thanks, Tom, for all your hard work.
Linda
Wait, the "new" just appeared! Wow, you ARE good, Tom! :-) Linda
Water, weather and people will be very warm. Enjoy!
Can anyone give me names of nice, clean, cheaper priced (more budget) hotels in Barra de Navidad, Would also like one with a pool. Preferably a general location where it is easy to get around also. Also could you give me the names of good restaurants also (reasonable in price). All information is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Just wondering if anyone knows who we contact regarding groups that help out locals with assistance programs. We're thinking about connecting with someone in Melaque when we arrive that provides goods such as clothing, books etc to the community.
We heard that for some visits to Mexico it is better to bring goods rather than cash to help out. Don't know if this applies to Melaque and area.
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You can e-mail Nancy Lennie, the Owner of La Paloma. She will know who to contact.
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Hi Jo yes they do have bungsalows with kitchenettes there and I work with them and all the other hotels and bungalows in Barra ans Melaque and would be happy to help set things up for you. You can contact me directly through my web site at www.smalltownadventuresmexico.com or my other email which is burtonbob51@hotmail.com Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing back from you and ant others that would like help setting up their accommodations. Thanks Bob Moody STAMexico
I am trying to get ahold of a lady named Marthe. She has/had a house in Melaque. She lives/lived in Boise, Idaho. I tried the last e-mail I had from her, but it's no longer working. Marthe, if you're out there, can you contact me? If anyone else knows how to cantact her, I'd appreciate the info.
Thanks, Linda
Peter be very carefull who you give the supplies to! Last time we dropped off supplies at a school we heard that an employee of the school billed the kids parents. Does anyone know if this is true? Please let me know at www.msbyth.com Rooster
We will be there tomorrow eve!! woohoo at last... La Man here we come for 1 glorious month!!!
Hi Linda, try this address: readhead@cybermatsa.com.mx Good luck ! say hi from Victor please...
We are staying at a place called Crazy Cactus Apt. We have a 445 sq. ft. studio apt. for $260 American a week that includes all appliances, TV with cable, stereo, pots & pans, dishes, etc. Their e-mail address is cactusmx@prodigy.net.mx
Kim, Have a great time, looking forward to your impressions of La Manzanilla. Charlie Palmer
Hi, will be back down in my favorite stomping grounds in another two weeks - La Manz --- anyone know what the water temperatures are like this year? Always seems to be perfect, but some years are warmer than others, and someone said this is an El Nino year, so what does that mean?
Was just in Barra and Edgar and Oso are doing great. He is still selling his jewelry in town.
does anyone know of a place where there is covered secure parking to store my car from April until December? I am in Barra now and would like to start looking. Thanks. Beth
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Hola< How is everything in Melaque were you shaking???
I hope there isn't any big waves? Anybody please let us know if you are alright.
Jeff
We stayed at the Mayorca in February 2002 with two adults and four kids (11, 12, 13, 14). We found it to be everything we wanted. Better than going to an all inclusive since we wanted the kids to experience more of Mexico than a sanitary resort. Many of the guests are repeat offenders and stay for up to 6 months at a time. Eva (pronounced Eba) is very helpful and learning english quickly. The rooms are equiped well enough for full meals and there are barbeques available for those so inclined. We plan to return as soon as possible and try to recommend the Bungalos Mayorca to anyone that will listen. Enjoy your stay.
Hello everyone, just to let you all know we're doing just fine here in Melaque/San Patricio/Villa Obregon; we felt it big time, but no damagge done, the waves are'nt too big ither and no one was hurt. We'll keep you up and informed. Thanks for the concern...regards...Victor at Posada de Cervantes
Glad to hear all is OK. Keith and I were in a big one in Manzanillo a few years ago. The Colima area is known for earthquakes. A tsunami (Tidal wave) would only be generated if the epicenter were off shore. It was report to be closer to the volcano in Colima according to my local Arizona news..
Try the La Manzanilla message board!
As it breaks day in La Manz everything is very quiet..A very frightening night...from what I've read the epicenter was off of Manzanillo's coast about 6.2 miles deep. My heart breaks for the people of Colima..we are anxiously waiting to hear about friends who live there.. If anyone wants to read more about the earthquake, go to the Mexico Connect site...
http://www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/SeismoObs/ruff.miller.txt Indeed, Colima is known with earthquaques...
Hi Victor Just a note to say thanks for your information and that you are all ok in Villa Obregon. We are coming down next Wednesday so were concerned as to what we would find. So take care.
Barb
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Thank you for posting good news quickly Victor. I've been unable to contact friends living in Barra, but I feel much better now. See you again soon. James
Heard there was some earthquake damage to the airport runway ... does anyone have any information?
Our hearts go out to the people of Colima where we understand most of the damage and deaths occurred. Is everyone ok in Melaque? We are long-time winter visitors and just left there two weeks ago. Does anyone know if the hotel Santa Maria made it through intact? Hoping to hear from friends (David, Sharon, Roja, Alana). Please tell Vickie, Alida, Pedro and Lerrece that we are thinking of them and all of you.
Love Rusty and Janene
Hi to all in Barra - Our friend Molly from LaConner, WA is in Barra. We'd like to know how everyone is doing in Barra after the earthquake.
Also...is there anything we can bring to the area to help out people?
Thanks a lot!
Jo & Corey
Haven't heard from anyone in Barra yet. Anyone out there able to give us any news on any damage done.
Any one ever fly into Mazatlan and take the bus to Barra? That must be a long ride. My local air has a couple seats left for this Fri. Other wise we wait till Feb 13th
It is a VERY long ride, but depends on how badly you want to be in Barra! Bust from Mazatlan to PV is about 5 or 6 hours, then from PV to Barra another 4.5 --- you be the judge.
I just talked to a rep from Alaska Airlines about the condition of the Manzanillo airport. She says no damage. We're due to fly there on Friday.
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Does anyone have any experience staying in the apartments at Casa Chips or Crazy Cactus in Barra? Are they noisy?
Also, last time I was in Barra de Navidad, construction was beginning on a new building in the center of town. It took up an entire block. Someone told me it was going to be a new hotel. Does anyone have any info?
I hope all is well there. The earthquake in '95 did a lot of damage.
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Casa Chips is close to the action so it might be noisier. Crazy Cactus Apts are located on a quieter street away from the bars and a couple blocks from the beach. Everything is within walking distance in Barra. We stayed at Casa de Marco which is lovely - however the buses loop around the block it is on, so it can be noisy too! We also stayed in Melaque on the beach - less street noise, but lots of surf noise and Sunday night is a very loud disco reverberating everywhere. Bootom line - you're going to get noise - pick your type!
Had I known, I would have taken small shakers of S&P, (and any other favourite seasonings if only small quantities are needed) because I ended up buying 1 kg of salt while there (it was the smallest I could find!) Take your own beach towels (Mayorca supplies fresh towels everyday - enough for showering). The cookware is aluminum, so if you have an aversion to that, you could always take one good pot along, if you plan to do a lot of cooking. There are enough basics there to keep you going though.
They keep some coffee filters at the office, which they will give you, or you can buy as few as you need from Alex at Hawaii grocery store in town.
Do you mean lounge chairs around the pool? Yes there are plenty - they faithfully put them away each evening. There is also a good supply of lawn chairs and a few tables.
I agree with Christinna that it is more fun to shop there for your missing "essentials" - however, if you already have exactly what you need sitting at home, and it fits in your bag, you might as well bring it along!
My kids, who arrived a few days after me, brought their homemade skimboards (took some creative wrapping to make those airplane-friendly!), because the surf there is such a big part of the "entertainment". If you plan to go to Tenacatita (which has a great beach, lots of beachside restaurants and is THE place to snorkel) bring along your own snorkel and mask. They can be rented or borrowed otherwise, but sometimes its nice to have your own, that fits just right! Fins are not really necessary (as they take up a lot of space!) Some people take their own beach umbrella - we didn't find it necessary. While staying at Mayorca, when we needed shade we just sat around the poolyard under the palm trees, enjoying the breeze! We also stayed in Barra, where shade on the beach can be rented for 50 pesos a day (umbrella, table and four chairs). Easier than packing around your own stuff! Have a great time!
Barra de Navidad.... OK. thanks for your concern.... only the state of Colima has damages..
My son and I were just in Barra at Christmas and bought a couple of pieces from Edgar. An Amber eagle for my son, which he just loves, and for me an amethyst necklace. He is a wonderful craftsman and artist... If you see him in February, we say hello.
Hi Gary: We will be staying a Crazy Cactus Feb. 10 to 24. If you send me you e-mail address I will let you know what it is like. I know that the rates are pretty reasonable even in Canadian funds.
I have photos up on my site at www.msbyth.com then go to Melaque section Plus if anyone finds any good pics please send them to us \ Thanks
I saw the comment/? on spending time at the Grand Bay. No problem, as long as you don't look like a slob. My Mexican friend and I have gone over for a drink of an evening; we were nicely dressed. You can also rent scuba gear from them, or whomever has the concession on site.
costco.com offers a travel deal for Grand Bay, to Costco members. 657 usd for five nights. It's on their web site under travel, mexico, manzanillo. Btw, I'm not associated with Grand Bay. Just like to spend time in Barra.
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Gary, we have stayed at both places over the years Casa Chips is right on the beach, but has a bar upstairs many years and lots of downtown noise some of the rooms have poor ventilation Crazy Cactus places tend to be nicer and somewhat quieter, and only a few blocks further from the beach Mexico is a noisy place, with music blaring from one place or another, so come prepared
for a place in Barra check with the folks at Crazy Cactus
Is Piper's Bar and grill ok? Being that close to the epicenter you would think there was major damage, any info on Barra would be appreciated
I'm not in Barra right now, I flew out for a week yesterday, 3 hours before the quake hit. But, I've spoken to my husband back home and Humberto over at Grand Bay by phone. All is well, no damage, the power was out for a couple of hours last night and that's all. They are having aftershocks but Humberto says that it's very tranquilla.
Casa Chips has remodeled, moved the bar to the ground floor and built, what appear to be nice by their web site, rooms on the top floors. Wondering if anyone has seen them recently.
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Now all that is needed is to have the volcano to start again.
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Piper's Bar and all places are OK.. Don't worry,, Thanks.. I live close to Piper's Bar...
Try West Jet on sale to Vancouver (or drive) and Discount Warehouse for tickets, I paid $507 Vancouver to Manzanillo: World of Vacations
Am so glad everything is ok in Barra! I'm hoping that someone could pass a message on to Tracye for me that my e mail has been down so if she has been trying to contact me I'm not getting any messages. I will be there mid afternoon this Saturday and am really looking forward to seeing your part of the world. I'm just wondering where in Barra I should meet Trayce to get the keys to the unit I've booked with her.
If Trayce could post her response, I'll keep checking before I leave. Thank you!
Joy
For sale a newly furnished room for 2 persons, double bed,closet,tv cable,mini-fridge,ceiling fan,bathroom.Located between Hotel Monterrey and Hotel Vista Hermosa in the corridor to the beach.Only 10 steps to the beach.With a deed. Condominium style,monthly maintenance is only $17.00 USD. CONTACT e mail pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com or in San Patricio -Melaque Phone 35 5 54 26 or 35 5 55 18 or Dentist Eduardo Pimienta Woo Strett Gordiano Guzman # 17 across the hospital.. Room for the rest of your life.
Curious, have friends in Mexico staying at the Grand Bay Resort. Is that hotel ok?
Any damage to the Grand Bay hotel from the earthquake?Lou wrote: > I saw the comment/? on spending time at the Grand Bay. No > problem, as long as you don't look like a slob. My Mexican > friend and I have gone over for a drink of an evening; we were > nicely dressed. You can also rent scuba gear from them, or > whomever has the concession on site. > > costco.com offers a travel deal for Grand Bay, to Costco > members. 657 usd for five nights. It's on their web site > under travel, mexico, manzanillo. Btw, I'm not associated with > Grand Bay. Just like to spend time in Barra. > > [%sig%] [%sig%]
We are coming to barra to stay in a friends house in feburary. Other than relaxing most of the time, we were wondering if anyone could make any suggestions on things to do, where to eat, drink, shop, etc... Thanks! GTO
Hi Gary, We just returned from 2 weeks over Christmas break. We stayed at Casa Chips and loved it. We rented 5 of the 7 rooms/apartments available...for our 3 families. Yes, the noise from the new hotel being built is very loud, starting at 8 AM M-Sat. Then there was the clock tower on the Tropical (hotel in middle of "downtown" that's been under construction for about 5 years) that went off all night long, every hour, playing silent night and other holiday songs! But hey....noise is part of the Mexico experience! We love staying at Casa Chips! Great manager (Jack) and all of the family/employees are wonderful people! It's right on the beach, Mario will bring you cervezas and margs all day, and the food is great. Have fun! Ann
For those of you interested in a follow-up to last night's "big mother" of an earthquake ...
The Servicio Sismologico National, Mexico's earthquake authority, has reported a dozen aftershocks originating from the vicinity of last night's 7.6 temblor off the coast of Manzanillo. The aftershocks have ranged in magnitude from 3.9 to 5.8, with most being in the 4.+ range. In the La Manzanilla/Melaque/Barra area, these ongoing tremors apparently have rattled more nerves and buildings than have done actual damage. The story may be different from Colima, hardest hit by last night's quake. It was also reported by different sources that the original quake lasted for 45 seconds. It seemed more like an eternity while riding it out, but 45 seconds is still too long a time to be shaken so rudely, and in the dark to boot.
Sea Masters has the BEST BBQ ribs, and Pipers has a comfortable ambiance and great music. Those are just two to get you started. They're my personal favorites in Barra. I'm sure you'll get many more suggestions.
Don't forget to visit Alice's Restaurant,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You can get...Anything you want in Alice's Restaurant... CYBER BEER Open from 9 AM to 11 PM 7 days a week. Friendly open place to stay in contact with your family sending and receiving e-mails
Trayce has her retail store and rental office just north of the church in Barra on the left side before you reach the next corner. She's there most of the time. Enjoy
We are scheduled to arrive in Melaque on Feb 1/03 by bus from PV - I have not heard any reports of the buses not running south from PV - Is everything really okay in Melaque/Barra? We are meeting a friend down there - Ed Zarry - who is parked in an RV at the west end of Melaque. We haven't heard from him - is everything okay on that end of Melaque?
Hi, does this room have bathroom, shower , how much,
Hi everyone: I am hoping that someone can help me contact my two sisters (-in-law) who are in Barra. They are Sharon Lymbery and Helen Cummings. They have sent me a fax, but I don't know how to contact them. My husband and I are coming to Barra in one month and I have to let them know our flight info. If anyone knows how I can contact either of them I'd appreciate it very much. Stephanie McClure
Hi Check out Crazy Cactus Apt. @ crazycactusmx@yahoo.com. Their prices are reasonable
The main road into Barra is called Veracruz. After you have passed a large hotel under construction on the right hand side, go one more block and you will be at the right corner. Turn right - it is a pedestrian-only street - and Crazy Cactus is the second shop on the right hand side. You can't miss it. They are open till at least 5:30 pm. Closed Sunday, however. Take Tracye's contact numbers with you - if you arrive late, call her on her cell or at home, and she'll take care of you. She is VERY ORGANIZED! If you don't have her numbers, contact me and I will get them to you. (We were just there last month).
Laurel
If youīre staying on the south end of town (Melaque/Villa Obregon) and looking for a good place to eat, there is a new restaurant & bar at Laguna del Tule called El Fish. the owners are locals David & Veronica and have a very pleasant and entertaining young waiter, Steven. The food is great and prices are very reasonable (45 -55 pesos) - thereīs been no need to go to town. They like to get reservations so they donīt over/under cook. Check it out!!
And most of all you have to eat breakfast at Banana's or Mokeke, it's worth it and not expensive. Eat the molletes, little heavy in the morning but soooo good! Also, you can grab a quesadilla with Miriam who is there on the weekends on the street near the hotel Caribe usually (or where the people is). She makes the tortillas in front of you, very good and fresh!
I finally reached Edgar! Thanks for your answers and I will probably see some of you in Feb or March! I just can't wait! Thanks again!
Anybody know about a house rental in Melaque, preferably very close to the beach for 2-4 weeks in March or April???
Lifestyles International is advertising a resort in the Tenacatita area due to open Feb 01 as a couples only ,clothing optional ,hedonistic lifestyle{nudge, nudge, wink, wink,-- Photos?} resort.They also manage a Pto Vallarta property that used to be a Blue Bay resort. Is this new hotspot the old Punta Serena, does anyone know?
We were in Piper's when the quake hit. No problem and everyone there were very helpful and calm.
I just got back from Melaque and everything is FINE! Relax and enjoy your visit. The weather's perfect!
It just might be the old Punta Serena location. I'd heard that a couples-only place was opening there. Didn't hear about the clothing optional part though. Mexico, for the most part, just isn't a clothing-optional kind of place.
Hi Garth, Was in Melaque over New Year's. Stayed at Bungalows Mayorca. It is on the beach, has a large, nice pool. Rooms are decent and price is reasonable...I think they go for $40 US right now...cheaper by the week (about $280) Our room had a kitchen, stove, small frig. The manager is Eva Gonzalez, she is very nice and you can email her at: bungalowsmayorca@prodigy.net.mx Bungalows Mayorca is about fifteen minutes walk from the town center (on the Barra end) or a few minutes and $2 via taxi. We felt quite safe...I walked around the area near the bungalows in the evening and it was fine. Can walk to several nearby restaurants; would recommend Pedro's Fish and Chips which is a few minutes from Mayorca I thought Mayorca was sufficiently comfortable & clean.
In town, out of curiosity, I quickly looked over the Hotel Monterrey during our visit. It seemed fine, is on the beach. Below, I "pasted" some info a person sent to me about the Monterrey.
> Hotel Monterrey is on Melaque, Jal. Our hotel is in front of the beach at > just two blocks down town, also it is in fron of the bus station. The > service that we have in the hotel are rooms with two double beds, ciling fan > and bathroom. Bungalows include kitchenet . The hotel has the folowin > service: > Pool. chil's pool, terraza in front of the beach, parking lot, umbrellas for > the beach and restaurant. > > Our rates > Persons room bungalow > 2 $320.00 $400.00 > 3 360.00 450.00 > 4 390.00 500.00 > Pesos per night. > For any other information or question writte me back or call/fax to > the 01-315-3-55-50-04. e mail hotelmonterrey@prodigy.net.mx Good luck...happy trails...adios...jack [%sig%]
Hola Ron . Yes , have bathroom and shower. $12,000.00 USD. Eduardo.
My wife and I plan to be in Barra in about a month. Does anyone know how to get discounts at the Isla Navidad course? We plan to play there and El Tamarindo for 10 days.
Last May 2000. Iflew on Alaska Air for about $600 Cdn , 30 day return. I bought my ticket thru Denman Travel in the Wesst End Vancouver. I was able to upgrade to 1st class at the check in counter for about another $125.00 each way.
The resort has been taken over by Sun Resorts, that's all I know!
Can't help you, but would appreciate hearing from you if you find a place. We too are interested in renting a house -- preferrably in the west part of Melaque (Villa d'Obergon) -- but later in the year. Thanks!
Planning to drive from Guadalajara to Barra. Does anyone know if there are problems with the major roads between Colima and Barra?
Can anyone suggest a hotel in/around Barra that is reasonably quiet? We've stayed in several that were pleasant enough, but awful noise from other rooms, traffic, loud music, dogs barking all night, etc.
Get in touch with me Sharon and Helen are two of my best friends in Barra/ I think I can help you out with the info you are looking for.
Sorry I don't think I put my email in the last message
Help, I answered an email for someone ont his web page and now my name,email is appearing on all of the reply to this message on all the reports how do I get it off Thanks
Help, I answered an email for someone ont his web page and now my name,email is appearing on all of the reply to this message on all the reports how do I get it off Thanks
Will be in Melague again in early Feb. This may be the wrong place to ask, but. Does anyone know if you can book into the Los Angeles Locos all-inclusive without a reservation($140US for 2 online) and how much it might cost? Although we will be supporting our favorite local hotel and restaurants in Melaque/Barra, my Sweetheart and I would like to give the resort thing a try near the tail end of our stay? Hope this small display of support for the larger resorts doesn't offend anyone.
Barb ... I think you can just clear the EMAIL box on each of your posts. The message board software (via cookies) should remember your last post and stay cleared.
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The Costco Grand Bay package is $657 for 5 days but it is per person double occupancy. Still cheap by Grand Bay standards but pretty expensive.
3 bedroom, 1 large bath, condo on the beach in Barra for rent. At the quieter end of town. Can walk everywhere. E-mail of interested and I will send pictures. Still have availability for winter weeks.
I am in the same condo complex as Sharon & Helen. I have told them you are looking for them. Their fax machine was ringing last night but nothing came through. Contact me on my email and I will relay messages to them. Everyong here is fine, so don't worry about them.
Would like to know if we will have any trouble changing Canadian dollars into Pesos at the money exchange. Will use the ATM but will be bringing some Canadian money with us as well.
Are there any venomous animals (snakes) that I should be worried about when hiking through forests in the Tenacatita Bay area?
sparks in Seattle wrote: > Barb ... I think you can just clear the EMAIL box on each of > your posts. The message board software (via cookies) should > remember your last post and stay cleared. > > [%sig%]
Just booked tickets Spokane to Manzanillo return, $560 CDN total including all taxes, through www.travelocity.ca. Yahoo!
Thanks everyone for your help. However the cost of tickets, considering are short notice time frame, is making the trip impossible this year. We are going to plan for next year though and well in advance!
For now we will be heading down to Palm Springs to visit our daughter. Not the same as Melaque but warmer than up here!
To all of you doing in the next couple of months, have a great time! Peter
Hi Karen: We found that if you're bringing money down, bring USA money. For tipping, cabs etc it is more widely received by people we have met in Melaque and Puerto Vallarta. As far as exchanging Canadian money goes we found that it was much better to just use our ATM card and get the pesos that way. The exchange rates were better and the process was easier than trying to convert the Canadian Dollar.
Peter
Most of the snakes I have come across in tropical Mexico have been constrictors . They usually hang out in the tops of trees and feed on birds and eggs. It is usually the first thing you see hit the ground when a guy goes up for the coconuts, sometimes with or without a head...
I have two houses available. contact e-mail pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com
We've had good luck with El Marquez-super clean, off on a side street, yet located within wallking distance of beach area, nice small pool, yet there was someone, who insists on revving up his truck first thing each morning!?! But otherwise, we slept like babies!
Don't forget nachos with cheese and salsa with your drink about 4:00 p.m.! Or the Sunset Bar at (guess) sunset! Raise your glass and cheer as the sun dips into the ocean! Salute another beautiful day in paradise!
What is the latest progress on the Hotel Tropical in Barra-the one that has taken years to build? When we were there last February, it looked like it was "close" to being completed? Any more progress since then? Someday, maybe we'll get to stay there!
On our walks to the next town we've seen bats, lizards and tarantula's but their legs are short and we can usually outrun them. It's worth the risk.
JJ Thanks so much for the post-quake update! We have friends down there right now and were very worried about Sue, Lilia and Cassie at Villas Camino del Mar. DHehl
Converting dollars isn't a problem but your further ahead to bringcdn travellers cheques than cash that way if you were to lose them or have it stolen you can get the money back. Buying american dollars cost you much more because of the exchange rate but doesn't hurt to have a few us bucks as a second safe guard. The ATM is the best exchange rate with your card to pesos but sometimes the machines can be down or out of money so it's good to have another option. Adios and enjoy
It is the former Punta Serena and yes they have a nudist area.
Somewhere I read that the bank in Melaque won't cash travellers cheques unless you have a bank account at their bank - is that so?
The bank won't cash your traveler's cheques unless you open an account. But there is a casa de cambio just down the way ... actually there are other casas de cambio in Barra too. The exchange rate is not as good as it is at the bank or ATM, but if you only have your ATM card and the machine is down or out of cash, you are in a pickle. So ... probably best to carry at least some travelers cheques/cash, and rely on the casas de cambio occasionally.
January 24, 2003; 3:35 PM SAN DIEGO, CA Hello, I happened to be looking for news about the earthquake in Colima, and found your site. I am quite impressed with the work you are doing in keeping a site with all the information you are providing about Colima.
I am from Tijuana, and find it amazing that you are keeping track of events in that area. Thank you for your hard work, I happened to be interested because I just recently made new friends in Colima via MSN Messenger. Once again, I am impressed with your hard work. Congratulations!!!!!
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WTH ever heard of tipping Cab Drivers?-Mexicans sure don't!
As for tipping other Mexicans what wrong with their own currency?
You are awesome, Tom! This website SAVED my vacation last year...keep you the great work!
Sorry...I meant keep 'up' the great work...it's been a tough week.
What? You don't ever tip a cab driver? We have met some hard working and sincere ones :-)
Hi Sean: Just may see you at the Fox. Which booth? :-) By the way how long does it take you to drive all the way from here to Melaque?
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We just found out that money orders are not accepted in the Banks in your area. Does anyone know if they are accepted in Manzanillo? I know they are accepted in PV banks Thanks Joy
Thanks to Tom's great work we can all take advantage of his new features. Just discovered that if we sign up and create our own profile we can also link to a picture of ourselves. It's great to attach a face to a name. My wife and I have met a lot of great people in Melaque and recognize them instantly when we see their faces.
For example if you click on my name you will see a profile, along with a very good picture (if I say so myself :-) ) of me. I will be replacing it some time with a picture of both my wife and I.
Just wanted to recommend that more users of this message board use this feature since we are already like a big family that have a special interest, Melaque and Barra!
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Hi Dr.Woo You may not remember but you did some crowns for me and my wife. Good Job! Questions: Does the room have any cooking possibilities? Are taxes or any other fees payable in addition to the monthly mantainance fee. Can Gringos own property close to the beach? Thanks Sandy
Peter Very nice. What a great idea. I'll have to do that though it may take awhile to get as nice a picture as you had. Thanks, Tom, for the possibilities.
Linda
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We always tip our cab drivers if they do a good job. Only seems fair. That's what you're suppose to do in the states or Canada so why not in Mexico?
water REALLY nice - 82 degrees on my scuba gauge. just got back last night
I think more of the mexican cab drivers than the people who don,t tip!!
It's been running 2-4 degrees above normal all winter de to El Nino!
Please see the poll at www.msbyth.com in the melaque center under messages Rooster
I'll ditto that Rooster on the Canadian peso!!
Public nudity is not permitted in Mexico. Maybe by the pool will be OK, but on the beach is not going to happen.
Christinna, have you ever been to Zipolite? Or certain portions of the Playa del Carmen area? There's always been a few clothing optional places in Mexico. Even on Cozumel there's a private clothing-optional beach club.
Peter: Great idea and easy to use. I don't post here often, but I do visit Melaque two or three times per year. Great resort area.
My wife, sister and myself plan to be at the beach somewhere there next Friday and Saturday nights, 1/31 and 2/1. Do you do any short-term rentals like that, and is your condo available those nights, and what is the charge?
Don't particularly need pictures--just a clean, quiet place to stay.
Thanks, Frank Burton
The law is still the law. In all my readings and according to my Mexican Attorney, the beach is Zona Federal and therefor considered Federal Property. Public Nudity is illegal, that is all I am saying. How or if they are permitting it is a mystery. Regardless, the conservative nature of Mexico's people should be respected and it is my feeling after spending many years in Mexico, that Nudist should seek out countries that socially accept this. I think nudity behind fences is just fine, but keep it private and off the local beaches.
http://www.reforma.com/deviaje/ see travel section of Reforma newspaper... features Mexican nudist beaches!
Hello, I have a stupid question! What is a Hedonist? Please can someone tell us can you post it in www.msbyth.com Thanks Rooster
Hi Sandy, you could put a microwave or an electric burner, the room is small but light meals could be prepared. Monthly maintenance includes water, lights outside but you need to pay the inside lights (probably $10.00 USD a month).
Two ways for foreigners to buy: A.) the cheapest is a LEGAL presta-nombre (borrowed name), B.) the other way is to have a TRUST at the bank in Guadalajara and it would probably cost around $280.00 a year.
Let me know if you need more information, preparing photos to send to you. Contact me at: pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com Eduardo
Hello all, as I have seen several times some of you are looking for AA classes! We are in the process in setting them up for Friday nights in Melaque. Anyone interested in chatting with us let us know. Thanks Also we will be having them online also, please join us at 8 pm in the evenings at www.msbyth.com Under CHAT Rooster
hey everyone, just writing to see how things are in Barra, im sure everyone is just fine. i lived in barra for a few months on exchange to learn spanish(august-december, 2002), i went to CECyTEJ in Jaluco. i actually lived just a few minutes away in the casitas close to the aguacate, and i was in barra every day. i met so many great people, and recommend to people that Barra is a great place to get away from the cold (i'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada), and from busy city life. everyone is very laid back and friendly. the beach is absolutely amazing, although a little steep. DONT go swimming at night...it gets really rough. anyways, it would also be a good place to go solo because you make so many friends very easily. if theres anything new in barra, drop me a line : ) Carrie : )
Hi everyone, enjoying your board.... Does anyone know if Satellite TV & Satellite Internet is available in Melaque and how much per month to use? Thanks in advance for your replies. Karen
Great Don: Wow, since you are going to Melaque 2 or 3 times a year, you would have a lot to offer!
Keeping you in mind and hopefully the next time we're in Melaque we will recognize you :-) Peter [%sig%]
For some reason can't find your "messages".
Any way, cab drivers, like anyone else, should be tipped if they give good service. Although even here in Canada, without exceptional service, I will tip a cab driver. I just figure its a way to say thanks.
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Basically, Rooster, hedonism is a belief that pleasure is that which is most desirable in life; "sensualist" would be a close synonym.
As for nudity, along the Oaxacan coast, many native women bathe topless, but often in long skirts as this is the local tabu. In Zipolite, almost all of the local economy is from budget tourism, historically mostly European. In more than 30 years experience with public nudity, the population has come to accept it. There was some effort on the part of the military to "harrass the hippies" back in the '70's, but even then, the official presence was always at the same time of day every day. This, on the other hand, sounds like a "behind walls" sort of thing. Like the club in Cozumel.
Carrie: I would be very interested in learning more about where you studied Spanish, that was close to Barra. Please reply to bcfireboy@hotmail.com Thanks
Carrie: I would be very interested in learning more about where you studied Spanish, that was close to Barra. Please reply to bcfireboy@hotmail.com Thanks
Sorry !!! I must be half-asleep. Post super-bowl I guess, the correct e-mail address is bcfireguy@hotmail.com
Looks to be a school in Cihuatlan <http://www.geocities.com/cecytej132002/> [%sig%]
hi there I am coming to Barra with my 10 yr old daughter on Feb. 17 and will be staying for 3 weeks. We are wondering if anyone could tell me about these apts, there cost, availability, and condition. I am on a low budget and any info would be appreciated on places to stay for a reasonable cost. We are not that particular about where we stay ..... basically need a roof and place to call home for a while. Thanx in advance. Yours Bubbly Bob [%sig%]
My sister and I wish to do some hiking in the area. We have a car so transportation is not a problem. Does anyone know of any places to hike off the beaten path? Ocean views are definitely a plus. Thanks. Beth [%sig%]
This is just a reminder about the Tomzap Party at Casa Chips in Barra on Thursday Feb. 13 at 2PM . Last year we had 10 posters from this forum meet at Casa Chips for a drink and get together and so we could put a face to the posters on the Tomzap Forum. This year we are meeting at the same place and at the same time (2PM) and we hope to see more people If you are in the Barra/Melaque area at this time , come on on down and meet some of the Tomzap posters . This party is a good oportunity to meet new people and to exchange ideas . Hope to to you all there . Jim
Does anyone know what the area code is for Barre? I am trying to call to different hotels. I think I dial 011-52-(area code) then the rest, can anyone confirm this?
I will be there on the 13th. What is the TomZap all about (sorry I guess I am a rookie) but I am all for meeting people as I am down there alone!
ummm, unless you have a local guide, I would'nt go trecking around anywhere. Hiking in Mexico is not like USA or Canada. Private property is not always evident or posted. There are some well known trails in and around Melaque, Barra and Tenacatita, just ask your local hosts about them. Enjoy! The Book Pacific Mexico Handbook by Bruce Whipperman mentions some trails that he has knowldge of in and around Pacific Coast towns.
Judging by the hotel phone numbers on the Melaque and Barra webpages, it would be 315. Good luck! You'll love it there!
Besides tipping, if coming from the airport, we like to give the driver a soda and snack when we get in. It seem to breaks the ice and we have always had big smiles, extra help and advise.
This is the Tomzap site that you are on right now , the visitors comments site . It's just a few of the people that regularly visit this site that get together . Last year was our first time , so we are trying to keep it going . We'll see you there Sharon . Regards, Jim
We just returned from Melaque & played 3 days at Isla de Navidad (great course). The normal rate is $212 US for 1 round, 30% off for 15 rounds & 50% off for 35 or more rounds. We were lucky enough to link up with another group for the 50% off rate. The guy you need to talk to is probably Rafael at the Clubhouse.
I was in Melaque 2 years ago and I chad no problem cashing travelers cheques in the bank, do they really require a bank account now? What about Barre, I have heard that they have a bank now?
Yes they do require a bank account and you can't just open an account as a tourist. You have to have an address, papers showing you live here, such as a Mexican passport, FM3, electric bill, telephone bill. Then you can deposit travellers checks, but if it's cash you have to fill out a sheet with every serial # and guarentee with your signature that they are not fraudulent. Bit of a hassle. The Casa De Cambio will cash them for you no problem but you must have ID, ie passport or photo ID. The ATM gives the best rate but it's good to have a back up plan in case they run out of money or your card won't work because they aren't able to connect with your bank, which does happen. Hope that helps. I live here and deal with it all the time. Adios Bob Moody STAMexico
Hey, Yep that would be the one, although it was located in Jaluco, about 15 kilometers from Cihuatlan. It was a gorgeous bright yellow and blue school with palm trees and bushes surrounding it. I was the first student they recieved as an exchange student so not only was it new to me, it was certainly an experiance for them. but what luck could i get to be going to school 2 minutes from this gorgeous town on the beach??? : )
Bob, Since when have you lived there?
Sounds like fun we will be there. We arrive on the 7th., not when we wanted to thanks to Air Transat cancelling our flight to Manzanillo on the 10th and then cancelling again on to PV on the 10 so we will be ready to party. We will be staying at the apt. above Tacye' s house.. Can't wait to get there the weather here in Ontario is coooooold, need some warm sunshine Mike & Sandy
Nominally all you require is some pesos to pay for the taxi fromZYO to wherever your going,ie. Melaque/Barra 290P, don't need to carry lot's of cash,the Banamex machines work 24/7 with the odd Monday morning being a rare exception, by noon they are allways back up and running. With regards to tipping taxi's I guess that's a personal decision, but my experience is they do not expect it, but I do admit to having tipped modestly on occasion. Canadian pesos are really not good legal tender in most of MX, you will just take a further beating on exchange. Enjoy you time there Bob
Anyone arriving in PV on Feb. 7 travelling on to Barra, know of shuttle going to Barra or maybe sharing a taxi?
Sandy & MiKe
Mike, suggest you consider bus to Barra from PV. Taxis for four people would be quite uncomfortable as the cars are mostly small Toyota type vehicles, three passengers are a stretch if you have some luggage, and I would expect you to have some . Regards Bob
the banamex machine in barra is a pain in the butt.....while i only lived there for 3 months, it ate like 6 tourists cards then you have to go through all the trouble of heading to melaque and getting them to open it up NOT TILL THE NEXT DAY. anyways...i had problems a few times. and ive found that if u punch everything in quikly then it doesnt give u too much trouble. also sometimes they only have 500peso bills, which waz a pain because nobody in mexico ever has change for that. but have a great time, barra is an excellant town.
hey, um good tip,... just head to the bus place in pv, its just across the highway there...and grab a ticket on Primera Plus. they are a great bus line, and i made that exact trip several times while i was in mexico. i recommend it much more over a taxi. besides the bus ticket is always under 200 pesos..under 20 bucks american and under 32 bucks canadian. the trip is about 4-5 hours...and expect several stops for locals, but dont worry its always confortable with a good movie : ) plus im on 16 and i was travelling alone the whole time...so that shows just how safe it is. you can email me if you have any conserns. supahkix_cr@hotmail.com Carrie
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Is the get together at chips on the 13th or the 14th?
Can anyone tell me what the fax number is for the Bungalos Orientales?
We have just returned from a great trip to Melaque, our first, 2nd go for our friends. All of the comments from this website were very helpful & made our trip much more enjoyable. Some favorites: Los Arcos de Jalisco, 7 Stars, & Bananarama for Brkfst.,Maya, Caesar & Charlie's, Pedro's, Flor Morena & Alcatraz(in Melaque & Bara) for dinner. Drinks & snacks at Bigotes & Alcatraz(Bara, great Guac.) & anyplace on the beach. Ray's tours, Boogie Boarding, & golf at Isla Navidad(THE BEST). We stayed at Villas Camino del Mar & it was excellent with a great staff. Thanks again for all of your advice & comments. We'll be back! One thought for first timers, take plenty of bug spray, comfortable clothes & sunscreen.
If you use the the ATM's when the banks are open and receive large bills, you can then go inside and exchange for bills of lower denomination. It is always best to try to use the ATM's when the banks are open.
Don't forget to visit me at Alice's Restaurant
Hello I believe the information is in our site www.msbyth.com under the Melaque section in Messages Rooster if you dont find it please leave me a message and I will get it to you. I know Martin the manager and his wife Cooca Rooster
the house is close to the beach ( 3 blocks ) 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, livingroom, diningroom, kitchen, garage, 128 mts2 for more information contact at: phone 01315 35 5-68-50 or e-mail pcdr022@hotmail.com
Hey, We just drove the over 5,000 miles back after the quake. The roads were ok except for one area on the auto pista just before, I belive before Colima. The bridge was out abut the military was there on each end to besure they sent you around it. We went from Barra throught the Colima area and it's ok. We just couldnt' handle the earthquake after the second day so we went home. Jessie and Vicente' tried to talk us into staying but we just couldnt' do it. For those that are going down we did rent a nice bungalow from the folks who own the El Marquez, very clean for only $350 a month. It was number 92 Manzanillo Street and had a garage for the car, 2 beds, hot water, kitchen fully equipped. When we didn't stay they refunded our money. Typical of the people in Barra. HOnest hard working. Barb
"Can anyone tell me what the fax number is for the Bungalos Orientales?" No need to head off to another website, Tom's got it listed in the Melaque Hotels section, <http://www.tomzap.com/melaque.html#hotels> in the "Moderate" price section.
Bungalows Orientales voice (315) 355-5751, 355-5750, fax (315) 684-3482 (mark Attn: Bungalows Orientales).
Dear Beth, we have a place for your car, our phone # 355-57-54 Address: Astilleros # 132 Pueblo Nuevo Canal System, one block from Cabo Banco Hotel
Not sure what you meant by not being able to "handle the earthquake after the second day." Are there problems in Barra? I'm going to be coming down in about a week and a half, and if there's anything I should know in advance, I'd sure appreciate you telling me. Thanks!
I have family in Melaque and there is no problem in that area. When they said "they couldn't handle the quake after the second day" they were probably dealing with fear. Some people just can't handle earthquakes and aftershocks. I live 60 miles from Colima. We also felt the quake, had aftershocks and damage in town. Two days later, a group of U.S./Canadian citizens were there on tour. Life goes on. Enjoy your trip to Barra
He's right we just didn't like the aftershocks. Enjoy Barb
I just received junk mail from a person posting on this Forum under Rooster and Trever. It invited me to join membership to a new community in Melaque/Barra. The Subject line was "Calling all Hedonist" This is the reason I use a hotmail address rather than my true address. Bummer that a fellow poster is also lurking around and using our psotings like a telemarketer...
Does anyone know who this character is and what he has to do with Melaque?
Since you have a car, check out Reserva de la Biosfera de Chamela. It is north of Barra, about a 2.5 hour drive. There are short hiking trails, so it's not so much the actual hiking I go for. Along the trails the plants are labeled. It's wonderful if you're in to botany. In the area around the compound the trees are labeled with both the scientific name and local common name. They aren't really set up for visitors, or as a tourist destination. It's an extension of the University of Guadalajara (as I recall, not sure). But I've been a couple of times, different seasons - different plants in bloom, and both times someone came out of... no where, and pointed me in the direction of the trails or gave me a trail map and brochure (no longer have them).
After your hike, the beach at Chamela is a great spot for snorkleing, beer and seafood. It's just a bit further north. Follow the most heavily used dirt road. Your destination is on the beach, uh huh, below the ruins of a partially completed hotel. There are about 4 palapa reataurants in a row. For the best snorkleing hike over the small hill to the south. Great spot. Buena suarte. Lou
Ask at the Marquez about their bungalows. We rented on for only 350 a month. It was clean, all the cooking necessities, 2 beds, garage, ref, inside and outside table. We loved it. Ask them about it, they call it a bungalow. They may let you use the pool at the hotel if you ask. There is also one for $300 for the month and one uupstairs for $6oo a month. Enjoy! It's as cheap as one week at $45 a night. for one week. Barb
Hey Barb, I live in central BC and it's less than 3500 mile to Barra one way, did it 3 times back and forth. Do you live in Alaska or did you mean kilometers instead of miles? Be happy Sandy [%sig%]
I will tell you who I am, Im looking for people that will help us generate some income for the school kids in that area! Sorry to upset your peicefull hide out. I found you because this is a public site. Can you tell me what you have to do with this site and the Barra area? And where are you from?
Hola Sandy . I have ready photos . Eduardo
Sorry for the confusion on the dates of the Tomzap Party at Casa Chips . I just noticed that my topic heading date was wrong . The party will be on the 13th of Feb. at 2:00PM not the 14th . See you there . My mind must have been somewhere else when I posted . Jim
Helping kids by generating income form Nudist Communities? hhmmm I smell a rat.
I visit loved ones in Melaque and support the local economy when I am there.
I live in Scottsdale Arizona, yet another paradise. Please take me off your junk mail listing and stop posing as a person just wanting to help kids. Shame on you.
I am sorry if we upset you! I have several people that e mail board members to make them aware of our site. Sometimes they don't pay attention and get us in trouble with an e mail. Please forgive us and I will make sure this e mailing is stopped. They are not supposed to use my name and it makes me very upset. Again sorry if we upset you. Trever
Forgiven, but I still dont understand the bit about helping kids by promoting a Nudist Community. Whaz up with that?
Well I can't explain why they posted in this nudist post.Tell me more about this subject. Is there any nudist places in Melaque? I would like to talk to you about this! Is there a place we could meet online? I have a chat room in my site if you wouldlike to meet there?
Let me know when if at all! Trever
Hello, do you know anyone traveling to the Melaque area by vehicle? We need to get some stuff to the Mayor. Please let me know if you know of anyone willing to help us out!
Thanks
I just replied to the email you sent me. The address that was given was treverh@attbi.com The Subject line said: Calling All Hedonist The Message said, We are looking for members to our new community in Melaque and Barra. it gave me your website msbyth.com.
Hello Christinna do you have MSN messenger? I would like chat with you sometime! I am thiatt66@hotmail.com Thanks
Rent room for 1 o 2 persons ,double bed, fan mini fridge ceiling fan bathroom.Located between hotel Monterrey and hotel Vistahermosa .10 steps to the beach. Contact. Dentista Eduardo Pimienta Woo .Phone 35 5 55 18 or 35 5 54 26 e-mail pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com. $200.00 USD per month.
Is this the same room that was for sale a week or so ago?
Christinna, a week or so ago you made some comments about nudity in Mexico that were included in the thread titled "calling all hedonists" (see message list). Seems like what happened was that "Rooster" and his "people" captured your email address from that posting, which would explain why that same subject line was in the message addressed to you. And also maybe explains why "Rooster" seems so confused about the whole subject. He was the one who had to have the word "hedonist" explained to him, remember? You can leave off your email address when you post comments if you don't want to risk potentially getting on third-party mailing lists.
Yes, that is what I had thought about. I like to leave my e-mail address as I have been able to help people who are a bit Forum shy by direct email. I just wanted fellow posters to know about the SPAM capture on this board. Also, it may help ROOSTER to control is PEOPLE now as well.
hey there, when i waz in barra on exchange, i had a friend living in hotel caribe. 15 american bucks a night. its not lugsurious(dont know how to spell) but if you want a quiet hotel(except sometimes in the mornings theres little kids screamming and crying)...just basically to sleep in, its like really close to "downtown" ahhahah and the beach. anywayz, there the occasional cockroach and wutnot, but nothing to be afraid of. : ) so there ya go!!! oh ya, and occasionally there is no water....but only like once a month and it lasts for like 2 hours. nobody knows y, but thats mexico for ya. if you have any questions... my email is supahkix_cr@hotmail.com
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I am trying to persuade my daughter and son-in-law to join me in Barra for a week this winter, but the sticking point for them is the possible lack of physical activity. I know, I know --- for me, just lounging on the beach is exercise enough, but my son-in-law is a workout junkie, and I don't know if there's anywhere for him to do so. Running on the beach is out because of the slope. Is there a gym or other kind of place where he could work out at least every other day? Melaque or Barra would be best. Anyone have any ideas?
Yes. For sale too.
There are 2 gyms in Melaque. One is for females only I believe the sign says.
Hello can you tell me more info about this room? How hard is it to buy in Mexico for an American? What do we need?
They might change their minds when they feel the heat and humidity. There is a huge ocean out front, that will give them a good work out. I see many people swimming along shore in the mornings and evenings. If they are worried about the currents, the other can paddle along side in a kayak.
We have bought and sold Ocean front property in Mexico. It is difficult without a Mexican/Amierican attorney. I would not have done it without ours. There are several firms out of Califonia and Texas that have cross boardered licensed Attorneys.
Kamloops people my God, I come to Kamloops everyday, I live in Westsyde and believe that the Westsyder is truly the only place to visit with Barra-Melaque people. I have been know to visit for a Fox burger or two.
Any old time !!!!
cheers !
My husband and I are from Kamloops - Sahali - and we have been to Melaque several times and will be there the last 2 weeks of Feb. We can usually be found Friday nights at Loonies/Days Inn. Looking forward to being in Mexico again. Just love Melaque
Sahali! We're up in Aberdeen.
Say all Kamloopites let's setup a party some nite; talk about Melaque, exchange videos and pictures, arrange for a bus next January, all head down to Melaque. We all save on airfare. . . . . I will drive the first 24 hours :-) . . . . Westsyder first then the Fox . . . . . . :-) I'll bring the nachos.
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This is my 6th trip to the area and I was here last year in Feb. It seems soooo much slower this time. Where are the tourists? Most of the bars and restarants are almost empty most nights.
I am hoping to buy a home and move to Mexico in the next year or two. I have spent a fair bit of time in Zihuatanejo in the past but it has become too touristy and expensive for my tastes. I have done considerable research and have reduced my options to the Barra/Malenque/La Manzanilla area or the Puerto Escondido/Puerto Angel area. Can anyone provide some pros and cons of each area?
Are there reasonably priced homes for sale in the Barra/Malenque/La Manzanilla area? The Puerto Escondido site has links to realtors and others with homes under $100,000 US but I don't see much in the Barra area in that price range. I am interested in something in a Mexican neighborhood (as opposed to in an expat community).
I plan to be in Mexico for the month of August and part of September to check out my options in both locales. Any hints on how to go about locating homes for sale, especially those offered for sale by locals as opposed to those being sold by snowbirds?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.
Karen
Hi When I was in Melaque this last Christmas, I ran the beach every morning. It's flat on top. The sand isn't as firm up there, but what a great workout for your calves, legs and butt. I also believe I saw a gum. Don't know what road though. There's plenty of ways to workout. Just means you can eat and drink more!
Enjoy Linda
There is a very regular parade of inspired healthnuts that makes the walk over the hill from Melaque to Coastecomates and back each morning. If I remember correct, if you start out around 7:00AM, with the return trip you'd have a nice sunrise. The walk takes about 1 hour. Then if I was really driven, I'd stop at the gym in Melaque afterwords. It's about two block south of the plaza. I agree with the opinion that gym time feels pretty hot and humid anytime after about 9:00AM ~Kip in Tacoma, WA
There is a gym in Melaque, called Napo's Gym. Just ask any of the locals for direction & they will guide you.
We will be in Melaque Feb 17-Mar 4 and would love to meet with you if you are there at that time. We could also meet at the Fox Feb 15 after 6pm if you are here in Kamloops. We have tons of pics of Melaque and videos. The sunsets are fantastic. Can't wait to be there
would like to rent your condo feb 9th to the 15th please reply leaving tommorrowstaying in vallarta for a bit then coming to barra
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Just arrived in PV. looking forward to heading down to Melaque next week. Can anyone tell me if anna & luke rturned to open Romeo's? Where else is good to eat? See you all soon!
I am from Vancouver, Can, and have never been to this area before. My wife was given the name of this place by a client of hers who said that it was a nice place and still affordable as opposed to other resort areas in Mexico. The area sounds nice but I still don't know anything about it ie. airflights,other accommodations, all inclusives vs. diy rentals, ammenities, currency exchange, etc. If there is anyone out there who might be able to help us it would be greatly appreciated. We have a 5yr old daughter as well as my 73yr old mother who will be accompaning us when we go for approx. two weeks in Nov. this year.
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Can't say anything about the Villa but we just got back yesterday and stayed in Barra de Navidad which is the next village to Melaque - 10 minutes on the local bus. I took my Mom who is 79 and she did very well there. The only thing you need to take is a flashlight so that your Mom can see where she is walking, the roads and sidewalks are very uneven and difficult for older people to negotiate particularly at night. You might also want to make sure that the pool has steps down into it. We had to move from our first place because my Mom doesn't have the strength to haul herself out of the pool using a ladder or to do a 2 foot step up from the shallow end. If you decide to stay in Barra, I recommend Casa de Marco rented through the Crazy Cactus in Barra - they have both 1 bedroom and 2 bedroom accomodation with all the kitchen appliances you need. It is a bit noisy from the buses which go by but a pair of ear plugs do the trick. We enjoyed it. The 2 bedroom was 564 US per week.
There were several cambinos in Barra and I had no trouble cashing Cnd traveller's cheques or bills. Big mistake taking US dollars to the cost of buying them in Canada. Just got back yesterday and the exchange was 6.20 pesos per Canadian dollar whether it was a traveller's cheque or a bill. We've never taken US dollars to Mexico except if required to pay for the accomodation. By the way, apparently money orders from Canada are no good in this area of Mexico.
Always tip taxis, don't care where I am. It's a long drive to the airport and they aren't allowed to pick up return fares. As they are very helpful and informative a tip is always appropriate for good service.
There is also a comment from Denise subject Thanks on 28 Jan that says she stayed where you are thinking of in Melaque.
We just got back yesterday and had a great visit. We stayed at two places while there the first was in the Las Palmas complex and the second was Casa de Marcos. I had my Mom with me which made the Casa de Marcos much more suitable although we enjoyed both. I'm interested in obtaining rental contact information for the beach front houses in Las Palmas for our next visit. Any information is appreciated.
Thanks Joy
There is another aspect to tipping taxi drivers. We have been told by our Mexican friends (in Mexico) more than once that their established custom is not to tip taxi drivers, not a cheap cop-out but the way custom has developed down there. They were quite emphatic that they resented North Americans who know what the local customs are but are determined to impose their own because they consider them more fair. We do tip taxi drivers if they have done us an unusual service.
I am not sure where your friends live in Mexico, but I live here. I am not Mexican, but my wife and her family were born here in the state of Jalisco. They have never heard of that custom and they all tip taxi drivers when they use taxis. The only time they may not tip, is when the service is extremely poor. Your friends may resent North Americans, who by their standards, break local customs by tipping taxi drivers, but the taxi drivers and others who receive tips are very happy.
My family is looking for a place to rent for Christmas week of 2003. Prices and pictures would be helpful. Thanks...
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The only damage that we saw in Barra were a few roof tiles down and some damage to the roof of the church. There must have been some concern as to safety because they were holding all the services in the street. We we were leaving, Jan 31 it looked as if they had got the okay as to safety and had moved back inside. Other that that just a bit of a scare that night and two real minor after shocks the following day. The deaths in Colima were almost all people living or sleeping in adobe houses that crumbled around them an suffocated them.
Karen, We sold our property in Troncones 2 years ago and we have no regrets. We have been spending all our time now in Melaque area. I think that La Manzanilla is close to how old Zihuat use to be prior to Ixtapa. There are several other coastal towns that you might like the looks of as well, all bewteen Puerto Vallarta and Zihautanejo.
We are planning on building a villa in Melaque, does anyone know a good architech? Thanks Rooster
Does anyone know a good Architech in the Melaque or Barra area?
Thanks Rooster
See your e-mail, yes it is available.
Sorry I was on vacation and didn't get your e-mail in time. Hopefully you found another place to stay.
We stayed in both Melaque and Barra in December, and did notice that Camino del Mar was a lovely looking place.(We were at a nearby beachside bungalow in Melaque). If you can make arrangements to stay there, I don't think you would be disappointed. It has a great location right on the beach. Melaque has a broader, wider stretch of beach for walking on, while most walking in Barra is on the street or malecon, as the narrower sloped sand is difficult to get through. Beach walking of any distance can be a challenge if one is not fit, though!
If you stay in Barra, everything is within easy walking distance as it is really small. There is less local flavor, however, as not many of the merchants actually reside in Barra - most live in Melaque!
If you were to stay at Camino del Mar, you would have a 5-10 minute walk (depending upon your pace) to get to the center of town. It is located at the quieter, Villa Obregon area. There is considerably more activity going on near the center of town - lots of little shops, restaurants, taco stands, etc. Melaque is more than a tourist area - it is a real town too. It is very easy to take a taxi back if you are tired of walking, and it won't cost you more that 20 pesos. (or you can take the local bus for a more adventurous ride through town, or over to Barra) There are still some dirt roads in Melaque, but most of the roads closest to the beach and accomodations have been paved in cobblestone or brick.
We too stayed at Casa de Marco, which is a very nice place, and I agree with the last post-er that bus noise is its biggest drawback (but you would be hard-pressed to find a more suitable place to stay in Barra, I think). It even has wheel-chair accessible suites. It has real beds too - which you may not find everywhere you go. Many of the bungalows we viewed, as well as where we stayed, have cement slabs with mattresses on top. A little firmer than you may be used to!
Both towns are rather like visiting a place like Osoyoos - pretty small-scale and friendly. There are distinct differences between them, so it really depends on what you prefer. Email me if you want more info.
We have stayed at the Camino Del mar and yes its a very nice place, Get the two bedroom suite that we stayed in! Its first floor and two bed two bath. People that work there are really great . We have photos in our web site at www.msbyth.com And I will be staying there next week again if you need me to get you any info while Im there. Rooster www.msbyth.com Have fun
Hello everyone we will be in the Melaque area next wee if anyone would like us to take their information and become part of our web site! We are very, very cheap.
Let us know if you want your own web site.
Rooster www.msbyth.com
I thought you were in tight with the delegado of Melaque? Alex is an architect.
Hi Vin my name is Bob Moody and I run STAMexico and live here in Melaque from Nov - May to assist people with accommodations set up and arrange tours while they are here visiting. I work with all the Hotel and Bungalows in both Melaque and Barra as well as other towns within the costalegre from Manzanillo - Carayes. I'd be happy to help and have been in this business here for the last 4 years and have been visiting the area for the last 11 years now. You can contact me directly through my web site which has many pictures of some of the places that we represent.I also manage my own place and 2 other bungalows in Villa Obregon. The web site is www.smalltownadventuresmexico.com and has an email there as well as a questionaire or contact me through burtonbob51@hotmail.com The camino Del Mar is a very nice place and has many different levels of accommodations available at different pricing levels. There is also many more places that are available and would be happy to recommend quality accommodations that would suit your needs and budget. Thanks in advance Bob
We have visited both Puerto Escondido and Barre de Navidad along with many other places in Mexico and Barre de Navidad remains our clear favorite. It is a much more interesting place, to us, than Puerto Escondido. The thing I really disliked about Escndido was the sweltering heat. We were there in February and I asked the Hotel manager when was the cool season. He said "this is the cool season".
I will be arriving the 8th of Feb and traveling to Melaque the 9th by bus! Anyone else on the same schedule? I will also be collecting information for web sites if anyone is interested. We build and maintain web sites.
See us at www.msbyth.com Thanks Rooster
Rooster gheeeesh ... your posts are getting tiresome. How about contributing to the information here and just post a link to your web site. Please!!!
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HOLA, WE ARE JOYCE AND GARY PITTMAN, THE OWNERS OF ROOSTERīS, THE BREAKFAST PLACE IN MELAQUE.....WE WANT EVERYONE WHO READS THIS SITE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT, REPEAT NOT, THE PERSON USING THIS SITE WHO USES THE NAME ROOSTER....IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA OR TRAVELLING TO MELAQUE, STOP AND SEE US.
I know that there are ATM machines in Barra and Melaque. Is there an ATM at the Manzanillo airport yet?
Yes there's an ATM in the airport. It's on the wall facing you when you clear customs.
Rooster, Sorry, I don't even know a good architect!
Hello Joyce and Gary ... I'm the guy that stayed at Las Brisas in November and showed up for coffee and fruit at 6am every morning. Had not seen you post here before so thought I would say hello and thanks for the good food.
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Can't decide between a 3 night side-trip. What would be the better choice - Colima or Tlaquepaque? Looking for some culture and authentic atmosphere. Enjoy shopping for pottery, glassware. What accommodations would be the best choices for both? Thank you. Sandy
Thanks for the information. Sandy
Sandy you might want to think about the bus, much cheaper! Burre
Sandy, Not sure about Colima or GDL. However our family just took a taxi from Melaque to Puerto Vallarta last week. Cost was 1200 plus my tip. That was a 3.5 hour trip.
I believe GDL is more like 5 hours so figure accordingly.
Gordon
Colima is a wonderful place to go, but with the recent earthquake, I would be reluctant to suggest a trip there right now. There aren't that many hotels there to begin with, and from what I've heard the damage in the center of the city was pretty extensive.
Hi Sandy, I would definately go for the shopping in T. I could stand to be corrected, but the best days at the market are Thursdays and Saturdays. Remember to go the day before and get there early. Awesome shopping and really good prices. Wish I was going with you.
I recommend Vicente Morett Chavez, who lives, and has his office in, Cihuatlan. He did my house in Villa Obregon, and that of a friend just down the street. I do not speak Spanish, but his English is good enough that we could communicate. His phone in Cihuatlan is 355 3091.
Hi Sandy, I live in Barra full time and was in Colima last Sunday. The hotel Ceballos next to the Cathedral in the Centro, a beautifully restored colonial building, was open for business as usual. The other three nice hotels in the Centro are also open for business as usual. The damage to the Colonial buildings in the Centro of Colima is minimal. All of the streets are open, I drove all around the town and over to Comalla we did not encounter any problems at all. Likewise Comalla, the Mariachis were going strong in the restaurants along the Jardin and all outside tables were full of Mexicans enjoying the day.
Most of the damage we saw was in Tecoman, Cyutlan and Armeria, towns between Colima City and Manzanillo, down by the beach. The army was working there even on Sunday, clearing rubble with their dump trucks.
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There is a gym in Barra, it's on the same street as the Tiangus, the Thursday market. Your son in-law also might want to check out a bike tour with us at Sea to Sierra Outdoor Adventures http://members.shaw.ca/seatosierra2 [%sig%]
Anyone know of any Yoga classes in Melaque/Barra/LAM?
Jeff
Spent a few days in Colima town 2 yrs ago. It is lovely, lots of parks, museums, but didn't find the shopping great. A few pricey tourist shops and the general market which was fun, but mostly food stuff. In Comala there are a couple of tourist shops with pottery, etc. Last year we were on our way back from Zacatecas (wonderful place) and tried to get to Tlacapaque but got lost in the Guad. traffic, ended up finding a stretch of the road nr there with wonderful pottery & crafts. I think Tlac. would be your best choice, sounds like the market is great. Have fun!
Will be in the area Feb 22 and planning a week car trip inland. Any feedback on visiting Patzcuaro, Urapan, San Miguel de Allende? I know it's colder inland in the mtns. Last year we drove to Zacatecas & Jerez and really enjoyed it. Would also like to see the Monarch butterflies but may be too much of a distance. If anyone has impressions of these areas pls share.
Many of the things sold in Tlaquepaque are made in Tonala. You will find prices cheaper in Tonala. Market days are Thursday and Sunday. Tonala is probably easier to find and has more parking.
Susan: Also try to include Morelia and Guanajuato. When in Patzcuaro, visit the island of Initzio (sp?). It's famous for being ground zero for Noche de Muertos (Night of the Dead) and excellent for their white-fish delicacy. There's a beautiful old hotel on the central zocolo. It gets cold at night.
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Thanks Gary. Guanajuato is indeed on the proposed itinery. Can you tell me more about it? Have read about the Night of the Dead in Patzcuaro, but didn't think it had relevance in Feb.? Any info on these areas is much appreciated. Cheers, Susan
Here's a great site: www.maps-of-mexico.com It is a much needed resource (as anyone who has tried to get a good map of Mexico can attest to), has zoomable 16-section state maps in amazing detail & you can print them out. We did this for our last yr's driving trip and made a binder of them for easy reference. Has much better detail than any Sandborn maps.
Susan Well if it was April or May ... I might have some info for you. I'm planning on 3 weeks in Patzcuaro for Spanish lessons - end of March, first of April. I think Patzcuaro, Urapan and Morelia area would be more reasonable for only a week. Or pick another area that you just have to see. It's going to be a one day drive in each direction where ever you go - except PV, Manzanillo or Colima.
There is much to see in any area if you move slowly.
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3 weeks in Patzcuaro, and you just only got back from Melaque! how do you do it? Yes, I agree, moving slowly is the best way to absorb the flavour of Mexico. A few of our best travel memories from last year include watching a spinning top competition in the town of Jerez, and a solo traverse flute performance just for us by the desk clerk in our small hotel...
There seems to be lots to see in the general area around Patzcuaro. A week of touring will be followed by a week back in Melaque and area relaxing. We plan on renting a car at ZLO airport, it's expensive @ $300+ wk US, but nice to haev the independence. Looking forward to experiencing new places...
Have stayed at Zihuatenjo the last couple of years but heard about b d navidad and it sounds interesting. How much is a taxi from the airport? Is there groceries and beer in town. Is there an inexpensive hotel with A/C. What is the best winter month for fishing? Would anyone recomend B D Navidad over "Z"? Any information would be appreciated. I love to fish and vacation in Mexico, not a international tourist destination like Cancun. Is this the place for me?
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Hey ... I thought it was Canadians that had paid 6 months vacations <g>. I just hadn't had a vacation for a year and a half and took a few "leave without pays". Use it or loose it!
Uruapan is the avacado capital of Mexico (thats enough for me), Paracho is the wood musical instrument capital (violins, guitars, etc) and Purepecha culture from the whole area (arts and crafts+) sounds interesting.
Yep, loved the kids and their tops just on the street ... better than yoyo's I guess.
Car rentals are expensive but worth it .... let us know with a trip report. I can always post a few pictures on my site.
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Susan: There's no relevance to Night of the Dead in February, you're right.
In Guanajuato, a visit to the Mummy Museum is a must. There was a pauper's cemetary in Guanajuato, where the indigent were buried for an annual fee of about $7.00 USD. After a couple of generations, most family's could no longer justify the expense. The city dug these folks up. They were naturally preserved by the makeup of the soil. They were then warehoused in a building, put on display, and the City charges to visit, and see the dead. The babies are the most eerie. One guy is wearing polyester pants.
There's a silver mine outside of town that's worth a trip.
Learn a little history about Hidalgo and Cervantes before you go.
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Thanks for the info, guys. 6 months paid vacation? Not in my part of Canada, I wish! Very interesting about the mummies, bizarre that they can do that, here that would be an outrage to the native people (I tend to agree), but fascinating... will post our experiences upon return, March 8. Cheers!
Steve, is it for you? I would think so, lot's of cervecas and food in the local stores, Taxi from airport P290, great list of accomodation options, no AI's, great restuarants in Barra and Melaque(10 min.away by local bus). Wonderful beaches and locals are great. This is not Cancun. Bob
House available from 14 February. 2 bedroom , kitchen equipped. tv cable, etc.
I love Uruapan - check into the laquerware while you're there. And just to the north is Paracho, where the best guitars and other stringed instruments in Mexico are made...
Thanks for the info Does anyone know his E-mail?
Thanks Trever
Hello, will be driving from Michigan to Malaque leaving 2-17 arr approx 2-25,6, if what you have is not too large would be happy to transport. Let me know.,Michael
We also are planning to move to Mexico. Everything we have read or heard says that you should rent a place for several months before purchasing.
We also are looking in the same area as you are.
Norma
We are very interested in your room for sale. However, I will not be in that area until March. Do you have pictures on the internet? Is there phone service to the room?
Thanks for your help, Norma
Made a similar trip many years ago. Patzcuaro is nice, visit the island and eat white fish. Eat the small white fish whole, they are great. Guanajuato is my favorate, but I would be a little wary driving in town, easy to get lost on all the winding roads that follow former river beds. The driving distances between the towns takes longer than you may expect. San Miguel de Allende is ok, the tourtist who have moved there and visit, almost outnumber the locals. bone up on your history a little, this is the colonial route that is full of Mexico history and their struggles for independence. There are several huge mansions along the way near Quetero (sp) and San Juan del Rio, I think , that are very nice you'll have a great trip [%sig%]
Yes I know he is an architech but I need more than one. Thanks Trever
Many thanks folks for all the great info. Always good to reserach the history prior so you can appreciate being there so much more. Getting excited about this trip, keep the info coming. Cheers, Susan
Steve: We sold our property in Zihuatanejo/Troncones a few years and have been going to Melaque ever since. I think you will like it better. Plenty of food and booze, far less people.
Yes there is beer etc decent restaurants, hotels, and fishing in Barra. Also, Melaque which is on the same bay but about 11/2 miles up the same bay is a bit less touristy? with all the things you will require for a great vacation. Bungalows Laguna del Tule is a inexpensive hotel and as with all the hotels in Melaque mexican owned. and at the Barra end of town. Everything is within walking distance, including Barra and there is a decent bus system in the area! There are plenty of beachfront hotel all through Melaque. I would not hesitate to go to Barra/Melaque anytime! Have fun regards Brian
thanks for the info, which is better Bara or Melaque?
What did you like better? Fewer people and tourists? Can you find a taxi in Melaque if you need one?
5,000plus round trip miles
Hello are you traveling anywhere close to Colorado? If so please let us know. Thank you very much.
Trever
Sandy, so the question you have to ask yourself is....how much time do you want to spend?.....I suggest...Tonala...on a Sunday....just before noon...the vendors are from all over the nearby states...the variety is endless...20 blocks plus.....and the prices for everything are way less than any place in Tlaquepaque. The only problem is, before you get 3 blocks into the market...you will need to buy another bolsa to carry all the things you want....or need?....you can't go wrong..Then.... drive to Colima,to rest..........Norm
Hola Norma. I send you photos of the room. e mail nlm288@yahoo.com . Eduardo
What is a LEGAL prestanombre?
Getting ready to book our air reservations for NEXT winter already!!!! How difficult or easy will it be to book our bus from Guad. to Melaque once we're in Guad (without any pre-arranged reservations)? Plan to arrive 12/20 and leave 12/23. This site is so helpful. Sandy
Looking for a very nice place to stay. Suggestions? Thank you Sandy
Hello! Have you considered flying into Puerto Vallarta? Its much cheaper usually and the bus trip is simpler. The cost of the bus is 12.00 us every and leaves about every 30 minutes.
Trever www.msbyth.com
How much is your house for the nights of Feb 9,10,11,12,13, ?
Thanks Trever www.msbyth.com
I've done that before --- taken a cheaper flight into Guadalajara and the bus on to Melaque. It's not hard at all. Just get a taxi from the airport (or your hotel if you're staying over in Guad) to the bus station. The bus station is huge, with plenty of choices for your trip. You should be sure to take a "Plus" class bus, unless you want to stop along the way in every little town. There are two routes to Melaque ---the north one is a little more twisty, but it's direct. The south route goes on the cuota road (toll road, like a turnpike, four lanes) and stops in Colima. Then you have to get another bus from Manzanillo to Melaque.
If you are going to be staying in gdl for a day or two--you can pre book your bus tickets by going to the subway station where you will find a bus ticket outlet..
Hi Sandy, In 1995 my hubby & I decided to take the ETN bus from Puerto Vallarta to Guadalajara. We stayed overnight and did our power shopping there. We stayed at the Hotel San Francisco Plaza, which is very close to the cathedral and plaza, which was amazing! There are rows & rows & rows as far as you can see of leather sandals! We bought sandals, foldover leather suitcases, cowboy boots and belts.
Anyway, the hotel was quite nice with air conditioning and king size bed. I just looked on the internet to get more info on it. Address: Degollado 267, Phone 33/3613-5954, Fax 33/3613-3257, $47 (must be US$) for double, 76 rooms, accept American Express, MasterCard, VISA, air conditioning, TV, free parking, same day laundry and ironing service.
Hope this helps you.
I would choose Melaque, it's more authentic, yes many taxis for hire. The chicken bus runs between the two towns every few minutes. On national holidays and such a lot of people from Guad go to Melaque, there are many Hotels to choosefrom. Again you can walk to Barra on the beach in short order.
Yes I am interested in your pictures of the condo and prices.
i took a primera plus bus from guadalajara to melaque and back again, i am only 16 and i was travelling by my self, no problems at all, tickets are farely cheap, very comfortable, no problems at all. under 200 pesos, 30 bucks canadian, 20 bucks american
Hi - anyone know how much a taxi costs from Mnazanillo airport to Tamarindo resort?
Also, is the cafe that serves Molcahetes still around in Barra?
Planning on coming Feb 14 to Feb 21. 2 adults and one child. Please let us know of availabilty and costs.
Rose, See your e-mail.
JRichters. I'm sorry, the condo is rented during that time.
Both towns are great and different in theri own way. Neither one has very many people. Check out the places to stay on this website for both towns. Good news they are so close to each other that you can be in both places every day if you want. The food is great everywhere--especially on the streets! Have fun.
Does anyone know of a place to rent a motor scooter in the area? How about the best place for an inexpensive car? Looking for the mid-March time frame.
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planning to arrive in barra/melque on feb 13th internet weather reports from manzanillo states: temperature 100 degrees humidity 80% is this report acurate for next week?? may have to change weeks activities
Steveo, would suggest the weather forecast is probably accurate for the next 3 months, however 100 degrees is bit on the high side, maybe 85-90, humidity prediction is probably about right, love it, will be there there in three weeks. Prescribe lot's of liquids, minimal exercise and lot's of time in the water. Bob
LJB, if i'm correct your going to the golf resort Tamarindo just a few minutes east of Melaque, Taxi from airport to Melaque is 290P, maximum capacity is about three passengers with luggage due to size of cabs, Suburbans are more about 500P, but they carry more,golf clubs, luggage etc. Bob
Hi All A friend of mine has a flight booked from Vancouver to Puerto Vallarta for four weeks. Leaves on the 16 of Feb and returns March 16... air only. Unfortunately he has to go in for surgery on the 19 of Feb and cannot use his ticket. This is a charter flight so I am not sure if it can be switched to someone else's name. I just found out about this tonight and have to wait until tomorrow to check with the travel agent. If anyone is interested, he will accept any reasonable offer. Email me at fleet98@hotmail.com and / or leave messages here.
Thanx Bubbly Bob
Wish I could be there to pay tribute. I went to Casa Chips the night of the earthquake. Nice, wonderful people. A good place to turn in case of trouble.
My girlfriend and myself will be arriving at Puerto Vallarta airport on Friday, Feb. 14th. at 4.20 pm (afternnoon). Does anyone know if I can catch a bus at the bus terminal and arrive in Melaque before nine that evening? Much apprecialted....David, from toronto.
No one knows or cares about luke & anna? No matter, i'm staying in Vallarta. More to do here, better prices. ADIOS
We will be in Barra from March 19 - April 3. Is this available and do you have weekly rates.
thank you
We will be in Melaque from March 18 - April 3. Tell me details about your bungalow if it is available then.
I will be travelling from Acapolco to GDL next week over a 3 month period. What would you suggest for use of money? I would prefer to bring canadian travellers cheques as well as a bit of american/canadian cash. Also use of my debit card only when I need to( at 5$ a transaction I am hesitant). Has anyone had problems cashing cad. travellers cheques before? Thank you for your suggestiong, Michelle [%sig%]
Michelle... Switch to PC Financial - no fees!!!
If you have to use travellers' cheques, I would suggest taking US - some places you may not have trouble with CDN, but lots of places you will.
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We have been to Zihuat 5 times over the last 9 years and to Melaque twice. We will be leaving for Melaque this Thurs. We thought Z was so wonderful initially and we still do think it is a beautiful place - but it has been found! More tourists and higher prices. We have not been back to Melaque for 4 years because our charters stopped flying into Manzanillo and we had to bus from PV. That ate up two of our vacation days. I think you would love Melaque. I just hope it does not become "found" like Z.
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There was a big, long thread about this before the board crashed. I was very worried about taxis, buses and getting around in general. Do not worry about traveling around Mexico. When you get off the plane and go through customs, you will go by a taxi booth that has the rates posted on a large sign. They speak English and you will buy a fare to where you want to go. Then you are issued a receipt, which you take to a taxi driver out front. No waiting and there are plenty of taxis. He helps you load your luggage and off you go. That is it. Honestly, I was so worried about travel inside of Mexico but, it was the easiest part of our trip. I had thought about taking a picture of the booth before we left but we didn't see it. It was $290.00 pesos to go to Barra. (If it was $350.00 pesos, $6.00 difference U.S., would you not go?)
From what I have read here and my recent experience, you are better off using your ATM card than travelers checks (cheques). I think you will be better off financially too. I am in the U.S. and the ATM cost me $88.00 (and some change) for 1500.00 pesos. It was faster and easier than waiting in the bank. At home, the peso took a sudden dive and I didn't realize I was taking a licking at $1013.00 U.S. for $10,000 pesos. I wish I had waited but now I know better.
We left out of Boise Idaho.
Hello everyone I visited Melaque in December of 2002 got back Jan. 07 2003 it was bofore the earthquake. One suggestion i have, don't take your V10 vehicle down there gas was just so expensive. I traveled all the way from Milwaukee Wisconsin and I expect to be driving every year down there for about two weeks every December gas was probably about 5 - 8 cents more expensive!!!! Have any more questions................. contact me...!!! Even though "cuotas" at the "autopistas" were expensive they were worth paying for the autopistas are really great....they save you a lot of time and you feel more secure that if you were traveling thru the "libre" free roads...
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Hey, it ain't just expensive gas, you've got to watch those 'pocito litros' at the pumps.
Travellers cheques are a pain. Before you leave for Mexico, order up a bunch of pesos from your local bank. Even in a small town like I live in, they had'em in a couple of days. Make sure you get several days worth, or even a week. When you arrive, scout out a cash machine, and try it out for a few hundred pesos. Now you know how to work it, and that your card is fine. Relax, enjoy your holiday, and return to the cash machine as required. Get some sun, take lots of pics, drink many servasa....
Smoky
OH! I'M STAYING IN VALLARTA. well you stay in vallarta you're probably from LA. and we dont care about your kind melaque is much more kicked back.(real mexico) I think romeos closes in summer, so i think it should be open when you arrive enjoy your trip [%sig%]
I'll go along with the "change bank" recommendations. $5 a transaction is pure larceny; the bankers should be required to wear ski masks instead of the neckties they use to keep their foreskins from covering their faces. ATM is the ONLY way to go these days. US and Canadian banks charge a large premium on those pesos someone suggested that you order up. And any bank that would charge a $5 per transaction on ATM withdrawals is likely to be exhorbitant in all other regards as well. You need to shop harder for your financial services.
Every year for two weeks?! That's not nearly enough time in Mexico to justify driving. You can fly cheaper.
Gasoline prices rise monthly but with the movement in the exchange rate in dollar terms it is approx. 5% cheaper than 1 year ago so quit your bellyaching.
I would like to know the realistic drive time from Ixtapa to Barra or Malaque and/or any concerns driving this route this February. Thanks
I was hoping someone knew where to catch the bus to Barra/Melaque after you get off the plane in Manzanillo? Is it difficult to find? Does anyone know the approx. cost? Thanks!
Realistically, 8 to 10 hours depending on frequency and duration of stops. Much of the trip is mountain driving, which will slow you down, but the scenery is drop-dead gorgeous.
Noah, You drove 6000 miles in an expensive V10 vehicle and your complaining about 5-8 cents per gallon increase while you are there? Maybe you should just stay home and count the money you will save. Gary
No buses available from the airport. You can take a taxi to the bus station in Cihuatlan and catch a northbound bus from there, or just take a taxi.
ummm, maybe we are forgetting that getting there is half the fun? So what if he drove and paid extra. I bet he still had twice as much adventure than we ever do at LAX...and hey, he admitted the fault, so give him some respect of posting vital information to this board.
David, lets get you back to the top of the page, somebody on this site can answer your question. Sparks, John M? My sense is that you will probably be arriving in PV too late to get the bus to Melaque same day, maybe have to overnight in PV. We always fly direct to Manzanillo, bus not nescessary. Bob Bus info was on the old pages but their gone!
What exactly was this VITAL information?
Been too long for me to help, someone else'll have to field this one. Besides, I always just went to the bus station and took the first thing smokin' in the right direction.
Well, my recolection is the last barra/melaque bus leaves pv sometime around 5:30 pm, even if that is the case it would not get to melaque by 9pm,it's going to be a six hour trip at best given some stops along the way. Bob Taxi?
While i was down in Melaque me and my family stopped to eat at these restaurant right along the main road their prices are reasonable and their food is great..!!! it is right at the corner where the main road intersects the main road to Melaque's center square...
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Vital? well, OK, you win. how about useful information.. feel better?
She's talking $5.00 Can. right? I pay $2.00 US and take out $500 US/time, and think I probably make up part of the fee in a better exchange rate.
Yes, we took a bus late afternoon, it wasn't a first class, and it was a long, hot (no AC) ride, especially after a long flight. The first part of the road is very windy, and my son got sick. We were not prepared and didn't bring enough cold drinks, towel, etc. We arrived in Melaque in the evening, dark, but that was no problem. The town was still pretty lively. In retrospect we should have stayed the night in PV, but that was mostly because we had a tired little guy. Our return trip on first class was much more plesant (and quicker). You can get a cheap hotel in the old part of town and the bus will pick you up nearby. This yr we're flying into Manzanillo!
Romeoīs is closed and up for sale. Luc and Ana went back to Salt Spring with their young baby girl. There are a lot of restaurants from very cheap to not so cheap. Plaza if finally filling up on Sunday night, it has been pretty quiet down here this year. Barra too.
Never felt better, my dear. Thanks for inquiring.
We are in Melaque now we will let you know BOUT IT when we get back.
Trever
The PrimeraPlus bus leaves PV twice a day....once at 07:45am, arrives Melaque at 11:45am. The second time is 12:30pm, arrives at 17:15pm(5:15pm). The current cost is $128 Pesos, or $11.68US, or $17.86 CA, based on todays rates(02-10-03) $1 US buys $10.95 Pesos, or $1 CA buys $7.15 Pesos. The bus website is http://www.primeraplus.com.mx/ YES there are other buses to take, that are not 1st Class,but it can take anywhere from 5-8hrs,cause they stop for anyone,anywhere, and you could end up with a chicken or two on your lap....But hey!....what an adventure! I took the first thing smokin' once as John W. says...It took 8 hrs., cause the alternator was out ,so the driver turned the lights on only when another vehicle approached....only in Mexico... Earplugs are a real plus!....or a good walkman....felix viaje'!....N
Thinking about staying in the vilalge of La Manzanilla. Where is that from the airport? Melaque? Barra?
Thank you for all the complete information....There's something about the people who frequent this web site..All great people who want to help.....thanks again., David.
I'm glad to know that there is no buses from the airport! Doesn't sound cost or time effective to take a taxi to the bus station unless the bus is really cheap with the short taxi ride compared to taking a taxi the all way to Melaque.
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Thanks for the info. It is very helpful.
Lilly, suggest you go to LaManz page on this site, from Melaque it's about a 30minute bus ride, really not too far, lot's of casas and ammenities in La Manz. Guessing that taxi from Manzanillo airport for standard cab(3 people might be around 350p), it's 290p from airport to melaque. Not exactly sure re taxi rates as we took the bus from Melaque, maybe some one can confirm! Bob
the camera is supposed to be in the town square
I hope somebodyshoots the lens out, thanks to Rooster and his gang of forty.
Most of my family got sick on the Primera Plus from PV to Melaque in January. Sure the bus had AC and TV, but curvy roads at a fast pace are tough on young children. We saved $500 US airfare flying into PV rather than Manzanillo, but we soon felt the downsides of that decision.
But if you are committed to the bus, consider motion sickness medication. Then pack a "bag" just in case. If you are doing this with young kids, reconsider what you might put your kids through. We ended up taking a taxi back north.
And I used to ride the second class buses all through Chiapas and the night train to Pelenque. That was 20 years ago and a different reality.
Gordon
Roger still have not seen a positive post from you re any area on this site , you do have a tendency to patronize those who do post, you question and are critical of others, can you come up with any positives relative to the Costalegre and the wonderful areas surrounding it. I don't wish to nag, but it seems to me that you have an issue with gringos, I hope I'm wrong on this but would really like to hear from you in a positive note. Bob 110%
Hello everyone....it seems that my suggestion about gasoline prices has frighten some of you the only purpose to this comment was just letting you all know, that if you plan on driving to Mexico make sure you do not take a big truck...with a V10 engine in it...That is just the comment or suggestion i had and no i do not have a problem with anybody...i actually enjoy all the comments some of you have posted. If you have any positive questions about my trip i will surely appreciated...
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110%, if you look at my post above, you'll see that I let peopleknow that gasoline is actually CHEAPER for people with dollar incomes. Now that alone should be considered positive info. You seem to offer a lot of OPINIONS, how about some facts?
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You also can check out www.lamanzanilla.info.com, a site hosted in and only about La Manz. Taxi from ZLO airport to La Manz was $410 pesos five months ago, and it really is the easiest way to get here from there.
Hi There Ticket is gone!! Thanx for inquiries Bubbly Bob
My brother and I are heading down to Barra the second week of May for two weeks - do you have condo availability then? Also, if you could e-mail me prices and pictures that would be great....thanks!
1 -2 -3 bdrm bungalows for rent in Villa Obregon, Melaque. Private setting, beautifully landscaped garden area for your enjoyment in a quiet, peaceful neighbourhood. Contact me at the posted address or at burtonbob51@hotmail.com 150' from the beach,and swimming pool available
Phone back home to Canada or USA for .26 us/ minute save up to 80% contact Bob Moody at the above address or at burtonbob51@hotmail.com
10 miles north of Barra/Melaque on Hwy. 200 on Tenacatita Bay. Turn off well marked at kilometer marker 13. Taxi is 410 pesos!
Adios! mexicomexico.info
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Just returned from Melaque. Found many good restaurants. To name a few, Piedros,Banarama,Maya and a nice breakfast place right next to Banaramas.
Barbara, I'm sorry but its rented during that time.
Yes it is available in May.. You can see pictures on this website under hotels. It is the Casa de Las Olas.
Gordon How much do you think we could negotiate a cab for from PV airport to Melaque?
I didn't catch where you were flying from, but from the Pacific NW currently you can fly to Manzanillo for the same fare as PV on Alaska Airlines.
Lauren, That's a tough question. Negotiating directly at the PV airport is probably a poor place to negotiate. I understand the airport taxi drivers pay premium to pick up passengers at the airport. Certainly one of the other 1000 taxis in PV might give you a better deal. But contacting and negotiating takes time. If you are staying overnight at PV, you could do this.
A taxi is nice because you can stop when you want to. Plus you are about 4 feet closer to the ground which substantially reduces the effects of the curves. We paid 1200 pesos to go from Melaque to PV, plus the driver's tip and lunch. But we talked to several drivers first. We got another quote for 1400, which may be more typical. Another local guy quoted 1800 for his 7 passenger vehicle with AC. Be sure to look at any taxi to see if it's in good condition. Alternatively, a Dramamine tab is 3 pesos at the local pharmacy.
Good luck, Gordon
So we bought a diesel to drive down an VW Jetta the gas was cheaper but oh, those topo's were so hard on the car and all those Federales that stopped us to look in the trunk. Each time they stopped us they did check out the trunk and we had to sit in the car while they did it. Sure wish our Spanish was a lot better. Flying is definitely better. I think the trucks are better because fot he topo's if you feel you have to drive plus we chose to drive the toll road autpista. Spendy,
Attention all sailors, owners of sailboats: We are a 50-ish couple from Canada who would like to spend a week or so sailing in Mexico. We are fit and fun, responsible and reliable. Basically, we are looking for some assistance to upgrade our sailing skills which are a little rusty, and a holiday in the sun and ocean. Presently shopping for an offshore cruiser and need to get our feet wet. Any ideas or referral would be welcomed. Love Barra...have visited several times and would like to base ourselves here during our holiday... dates from March 25th to April 6th. Looking forward to hearing from you all....
Ms. Kitty and the marshall
There are exactly 157 Topes between Puerto Vallarta and Zihuatanejo. We rented a Dodge Stratus and had 4 adults and luggage for 3 weeks. One of our parties now carries the nick name "Tommy 2 Banger" as his meathod for the Topes always seemed to involve 2 bangs on the under carriage. We had our friends in Zihaut that had flown down, take most of our luggage back so we could travel lighter on the way back. We all placed bets on how many topes, my husband guessed it on the nose, Lori and I were betting in the 300's. Ha! it was fun, regardless of the Topes, State Boarder Checks and gas prices.
I've been to Guanajuato, Queretaro, San Miguel, all great places, especially Guanajuato (interestingly, they were filming a new Roberto Rodgriguez movie, "Once Upon a Time in Mexico", while I was there, which was a blast in itself...), but they're a good distance from the coast! Let us know how long a drive it takes.
If you want to speed things up (and maybe you don't) you can fly from PV to Leon, which is probably the closest airport to Guanajuato.
Did you tried on crossing the "topes" side ways so the car would not hit at the bottom if you did not next time try that it avoids hitting the bottom of your car.
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That's how we got the "2 Banger" thing... doesnt work with a low car loaded up with adults, beer and luggage. We tried everything, once, while in Barra Navidad, everyone got out except me in order to get over one. I'm tellin' ya, Lori had WAY to much luggage.
its really not that bad...i went from barra to p.v. and back to barra on bus. on the way there i went on 2nd class and it took about 5 hours...not bad. i was bymyself with the drivers for a few hours which was scary(im only 16, and i was alone) but other then that no worries. the way back i settled for primera plus. i got slightly sick on the way to p.v. but not vomiting or anything, just a little nausea.
bus is cheap, probably about 250 pesos...comfortable ride.
We did a trip in Morelos (out of Curnavaca) thru small towns heading for a swimming park for the weekend. Some of those topes were hard to see over and we had 4 adults in a Tsuru (Nissan) sedan. The theory of the mexcians was you could turn your front wheels one way as you went up the tope and and then the other on the way down. I think turning your wheels gives you a millimeteror or so but I opted for going slow and scraping bottom. This was the beginning of the end of my love affair. Complicated by a unruly german shepard hanging out my drivers window barking at the world. Dogs in Mexico are not trained like in the states.
On the wayback we took the freeway (cuota). Turns out we were just retracing the bus route and maps were not considered. I love Mexico!
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gym in barra above a hotel, im sorry my memory is fading. i believe it was either one or two blocks from the bus stop in barra. they had arobics/yoga...etc.etc. classes....although i believe they may be in spanish.
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Okay, I am leaving Monday, and could use the tips on cheap phone rates to the U.S. Tell me your best secret!
Jo
Bill - Laura - and lastly Peter I respond and even include a phone number and the people from Kamloops cannot connect?????? So Bill is stuck in Westsyd - OK Peter wants to know what booth?????? Laura you are our last best chance!
If you do go to the Place on friday nights talk to Peter or Garth behind the bar or to either Onika, Kimberly or Jeanete. They work the floor. Ask if Sean or Gerry are there. This is not rocket science folks!!!!
Any way it would seem that we share an enjoyment of the Barra/Melaque area and the two of us are heading back there soon. We enjoy sharing our ideas and experiences. Sean
Sparks!
Would you please try connecting with me at either skirby@ocis.net or seankirby49@hotmail.com Would like to pick your brain about Patzcuaro Sean
Sparks, six months paid vacation for canadians, not in my lifetime, 14 days is a stretch. However enjoy your longer stay. We have 11 days in march, I guess that will have to do. Bob
Hi there....we are interested in a March vacation. What is your rental fee, and do you do short term (two weeks)? Thanks very much. Carol
Roger this is a site with lot's of room for both opinions and facts, (facts are good) otherwise how would new and experienced travellers to Mexico manage, you can't get the information from the Birnbaum, Fodors, Moon handbooks that you can gleam from Tomzap, the personal insights, experiences and anecdotes are not available from many other sources, and you don't have to buy those expensive publications either. Please share the site, be positive, give good info. Kindest regards Bob
110%, got no problem with people's opinions that are based on facts....gotta problem with people who post opinions based not on their experiences but strictly to see their post on the screen.
I guess that I am not a TRUE RVer, to drive down for two weeks, NO WAY! At an average of 50 mph, 12 hours a day it will take you 10 days on the road. 800-1000 gal fuel. No unleaded gas, so your RV will need to be old or diesel. Everyone that I know that RV down come for the season. My wife and I Fly to PV rent a car (unlimited milage and I like those 1/2 bugs!), spend a couple days on the beach and go south for a week or so and usually a several days north hitting the north beaches, Tepic, Guadalajara and the Koala bungalows at Lako StMarie. On topes... Last time down (again in one of those 1/2 top VW's) we hit one HUGE tope in SE PV that we actually got highcentered on and had to push the car off. They DO keep the speed down through town and at school crossings.
Depends on union contracts,seasonal work, as well as other considerations.bla bla bla. If you work on tree planting,oyster farming,fishing,sell local fruit & veg's,logging,farming, construction etc' The work is seasonal,you can work double time(in some situations) in the summer & take the Winter off. What is quite common is part time work --semi-retirement. People taking time off in the summer need replacements. Where we live in B.C.the local(self employed) Pharmacists complain that they can't take any vacation, because they can't get any one to leave the city to come to "Small town" to fill in for them.(so maybe pharmacists from Mexico could have a paid holiday in the summer up here)I met one in Melaque who had been to Montreal.
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Hi there, We will need a place for Feb. 22 to Mar. 01. Not sure if you're in our price range but would be interested in info for this year or future. THanks.
Dude, whadda ya mean no unleaded gas?
Hit the wrong button before I was done! 800 to 1000 gallons? If you got 10mpg that would mean you would have driven 8 to 10 thousand miles!! I guess if you live in Alaska or the Yukon maybe.
Do you have a nice 1 bedroom available from about the 20th till the 25th of Feb. I know it is short notice, but we've got to take a vaca. when we can from this very frigid New York winter. Thanks for you help
So what takes the place of unemployment compensation in Canada compared to the States. In a few years I'd like to work north in the summers and spend winters in Mexico ... but, they don't direct deposit your unemployment to a bank - you have to be around to cash the checks.
I'm too old to do any of those jobs you listed and maybe to immigrate. Something will work out!
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roger re posts for the sake of posting, yeah your right. point well made! Regards Bob
No you didn't hit the wrong button. You just wanted to see your post up on the screen.
:-D LOL Our site: http://www.jumpinduo.com
I was just wondering how 'kid friendly' Barra is? I've got 2 little ones (4 & 2.5) and want them to have a good time. How is the beach for little ones? Can you swim in the lagoon? (would you want to?? lol) I've only ever been to Mexico once... we stayed at club maeva for our honeymoon 2 years ago, and took the tour to Barra, and we fell in love with the area. So laid back, and everyone was really friendly. But we are very new to travelling and want somewhere that we won't have too much trouble finding good food and drinks and hotel. Suggestions? Thoughts?
Would Barra be the place for us?
Usually the mexican tourists kids will swim in the Barra lagoon because it is safer and it has no waves like the ocean side. I would question the water quality because of the possibility of some sewage emptying into the lagoon from the surrounding area.
The bay that runs from Barra at the north to Melaque on the south has a nice sandy beach that is moderately slanted. The wave action in this bay is substantial due to the shallow depth of the bay and how it sits in relation to the open Pacific Ocean. The calmest section is at the extreme south end in Melaque where there is some protection from the wave action due to the rocks on the point. This would be the safest spot for kids.
Theer is a nice small beach just north of Melaque at Cuastecomates that would be a bit safer for kids but limited hotel action. There are about 5 palapa restaurants there.
Farther north (13k), on the Bay of Tenacatita, there is the village of La Manzanilla which has a few hotels, lots of house rentals, and a flat beach with relatively small waves. If you go north of the village along the beach a block or so the beach is sandy and very safe for kids.
There are now about 4 or 5 restaurants in town that stay open after sunset and maybe 6 or so along the beach that are open mostly during the day.
Lots of little stores to buy supplies. There are pictures and descriptions of these villages on this webpage. Just go to the main index and search for the names of the villages.
My grandkids [4 &2] were here in Barra last year and enjoyed swimming i n the lagoon. There is also a water park at the North end of Barra that they really enjoyed. Hope this helps. We live here year round and it's great.
Ah, hell, I think ol roger just needs a good fudge packing. Abstinance causes bitchiness ya know
PLEASE DO NOT eat at these places , they are all owned by "FROGS" french canadians, they do not I repeat do not support the locals. I was just there janet
Piedros,Banarama,Maya and a nice breakfast place right next to Banaramas.
Please do not eat at these places They dont give a nickle to the community. Ask them?
Rose
Ojo, when I was a kid there was a saying "it takes one to know one"
Looking to stay IN the shopping area of Tlaquepaque - or closest to it. Which accommodation is the best location and amenities? Quinta Don Jose, Casa de las Flores OR Casa Campos? Thank you Sandy
roger just a couple more who want to see their names, just fifteen more sleeps,we'll be there, all things being equal. Looking forward to waking with the roosters and barking dogs and going to sleep with the sound of pounding surf.Regards, Boib
HOLA AMIGOS!
I have made a point at visiting the Restaurante Maya every time I stay in Melaque. In fact, it has played a decision in why we keep coming back to the area.
My wife and I have eaten there probably 15 times over the last two years and are still waiting for a bad meal! Every visit to Maya's has been absolutely wonderful and priced as it should be. We have always found the staff warm and friendly and extremely professional. (I recognize some staff from our first visit in April 2001) When we dined there earlier this month, it was a little windy and Maya's was very busy, but our server offered to run over to our accommodations and retrieve my wife's sweater which she left on our balcony. I retrieved it myself, but was impressed with his attention to our comfort.
We enjoy and support many establishments in the area. They all have there own unique atmosphere and price structure. Maya's should be no different. The beautiful setting, food presentation, the food itself and on some nights wonderful live music, commands the very fair price they charge.
I hope those who have not had the opportunity to try it out will definitely give it a chance when the visit the area. (This white fish with peanut and black bean sauce is my new fave!) Although I do believe in Mrs. Jenkins right to express her opinion, I think she lost her integrity this drug use allegation nonsense.
Keep up the good work Maya if you are listening!
We will be back in January!
Bill Marshall
Hola, amigo(a)s!! I was wondering if any of you well informed posters out there know where you can rent horses (either in melaque or barra). I am a fairly experienced rider and do not need lessons or a guided tour. Is there anywhere that will rent to you without needing to come along?
"They don't give a nickel to the community"????????? You mean they import all their supplies, electricity, water, telephone and other things from outside of Mexico. WOW, that is quite a job. Or is the problem, you are upset because you are unable to provide their services and can't compete.
You were just there.!!!!!!!!!! Then why is your post from Mexico. Sounds like a phony name and another stupid post from someone who can't compete with successful businesses. It is not where one is from, it is the service they provide, if one wants to have a successful business.
Hi Lisa... In 2001, I spent two weeks with my then two-and-a-half-year-old boy. I would recommend you stay in Melaque rather than Barra - the beach at the farthest end is very wide and flat, as is the ocean at that spot. Perfect for frolicking. There were always other kids around - both tourist and local. We "buddied up" with a family from Alaska staying at our hotel, which was a big help for me. I brought along a couple of trucks to play with and some books which filled in nicely at non-beach times.
We stayed a hotel which has a community kitchen. That was great for keeping familiar food handy - bread, peanut butter and jam etc. It also had a microwave - if I had thought of it beforehand, I would have brought a couple of packages of microwaveable Kraft dinner along (it's my son's favourite food.) We also visited the water park mentioned above a couple of times and had a ball. There are a variety of slides - something suitable for all ages. It was clean and lots of fun. We also enjoyed our trips to Barra on the three peso bus to visit friends. Personally, I wouldn't want to swim in the lagoon - but that's just me. We did "crash" the Sands pool a couple of times.
I think you'll have a great time - enjoy.
brenda
Hi, I am new to the forum and I am looking for information on bus times from Barra to Puerto Vallarta. What is the earliest bus that leave Barra to PV?
Also, if anyone can recommend a moderate hotel that is clean and quiet I would really appreciate it.
Many thanks, Paul (aka Paddy)
we are an american family living in San Miguel de Allende. We are interested in visiting the beach during the Semana Santa holidays from school in the 2nd and 3rd weeks of April/2003. Is Barre de Navidad a good place for a family? How is the beach? What is the price? Is it available. My kids are 10, 12 and 14 well behaved. Lindsey
OK Guys here is the scoop! I was in Melaque last week and I got some good feed back about this webcam stuff. What we were trying to find out is the response we would get and would it be a good thing for the tourist business. How it all started is someone had heard that Bob Moody might put one up in Bigotes and that got alot of responses so I "ROOSTER" (Not associated with Roosters Breakfast Place) thought a cam would bring some tourists to the area which would the local businesses. I talked to a lot of locals while I was there and they seem to agree that it would help boost the economy. Who are we trying to help? Please let us know your feelings on our site. We will start a Poll to see the difference in opinions.
thank you Rooster Our site: www.msbyth.com
I just wanted to thank all the great people of Melaque! I would also like to say thank you to the wonderful visiters that I had met in Melaque.
Rooster
Paddy go to www.primeraplus.com.mx/ Don't know where you want an inexpensive hotel. Barra or PV, anway the above is the bus info site
Vincente there are rogue posters on this page, creating concerns for all new potential visitors to barra/melaque,won't frighten the hard core visitor but can only turn off those who are considering Mexico and the costalegre for a first time get away, anyway those posting the negatives are really only hurting themselves and those who rely upon the touristo. I don't personally know what they(the rogues) are trying to protect except that they possibly do not want gringos to visit at any time. Regards Bob should elicit good responses from prodgiy.net.mx sites
Hi, Oops! I meant moderate accomodation in Barra.
Thanks!
We have 2 boys ages 4 and 6 and we just got back from our second trip to Melaque. The waves in Barra and Melaque are not kid friendly, EXCEPT for the west end of Melaque. The shore is nicely protected by the outer rocks which reduces the wave size. For this reason we have enjoyed Hotel Legazpi for 2 years now. Kids make sand castles and parents are relaxed.
Hotel Legazpi has a common kitchen; great for getting kids lunch or snacks easily. Clean pool. Very kid-friendly staff.
As posted above, the "water park" just outside Barra is fun for kids on Sat/Sunday (only days open). We were the only gringos and easily connected with the many Mexican children there. A true highlight of our trip. Mexicans love children and so bringing your kids will be a great way to connect with locals.
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Check that Gordon, the park is open weekdays also.
Rooster you and the beaver all ready know my feelings re web cam beach cam only may be a consideration! as long as weather, temp. info is attached. By the way who is going to pay and support the on going cost for this web cam, that support can only come from advertisers on your web site and web cam site, so that would mean local business would pay for advertising on your site, advertising pays! I'm in the biz, so your investment to do all this in just to help the local economy with no financial rewards for yourself, very commendable! Your doing this buckshee just to help out? Bob
Paddy, go to the top of this page, click on barra,scrolldown hit hotels, they are all listed, not really a bad one just some better than others, enjoy! bob
Iīd like to know how this camera is going to help the local economy? Pretty funny to think that Bob( the WEASEL) would put out for a cam unless heīs getting 10% of something. He wouldīnt do anything that cut into his boozing. Even funnier is the thought of a cam at Bigotes with the same cast of alcoholics sitting around puffy, red and drunk. Now thats really gonna sell Melaque!! Regards Ramon
Go Rose!!
I have stayed at La Villa del Ensueno 4 times and always enjoyed it. You can find info on it at www.mexonline.com
I just wish those that seem so concerned about the community would consider what all these nasty-negative posts are doing to tourism in general. Yes thats tourism for both Mexican and gringo businesses. I get a number of emails from people that don't want to post in these forums due to all the negativity. How many people just go away and try other places.
Please think about it if community is what you are concerned about.
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OK Sparks hereīs a post for you happy happy joy joy everythings wonderfull. Hope you are a happier person now. Love Ramon
Bob from BC, can I ask a question? Why do you post Bob in BC? Do you live in Melaque? And what do you do with your 10%? The city needs to paint some structures around the square, can you help?
Please let us know if you can.
Rooster
Breakfast! No place like the Siete Star ( 7 Start) Resturant by the town square. We love it there and we have many photos now.
Rooster Our Site: www.msbyth.com
We took over 1000 photos of Melaque and the area last week. We will be posting 50 new very hi quality photos every week on our site, please visit us.
Rooster www.msbyth.com
Dear ramon, roger, some girl in canada, jose and gringo hater (even tho you are one) .... thanks for the 'happy happy joy joy' on almost valentines day. Great that you have a lighter side and were thinking of me.
BTW ... who's email address is that that you are using. It's not been returned as NG yet.
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Iīm glad I brightened your day! Believe it or not I am Ramon and Ramon only I donīt post under any other names. PS Iīm an equal oppotunity disliker (hate is such a harsh word)
Trever, To remove your postings and website from the "spam" category, consider adding the contents FIRST, and then publicizing it. As it stands at present, the "new" additions consist mainly of: - photos of necklaces which you are selling and - an ad for a $50 brick ($100 for businesses) which you'll "have placed in the roads" in Melaque with the payer's name affixed to it.
If you ever do actually start posting your "50 new very hi quality photos every week" you might also want to consider checking the existing links and image calls on your site, as a significant number are broken. I would think that this alone would deter anybody from using your site or services for advertising.
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Rooster, just to set the record straight I'am not the individual who is, on ocassion', refered to as 10% Bob by some individuals who seem to have a problem. Regards
Is the disgraceful Mexican Terre Smith and her Canadian hustler husband Ray still in Melaque?
the waves in barra are certainly not safe for children...barely safe enough for me.the lagoon smells bad after about 1pm every day. not enjoyable. but i visited the water park a few times and it was a lot of fun, very safe and clean and cheap too, i cant remember but i think it was about 20 pesos. enjoy barra. most restaurants in barra had hamberguesas(hambergers hahaha) ummm quesadillas would be well liked by children i think. there is sunday school type thing at church....always kids hanging around in the "centro" of barra. dont worry your children will have a fine time.
Major, your post is beyond comprehention, it is tantamount to slander, I can only speculate that you are just another of those with a sad life, totally negative with nothing positive to add to this site or even to the black hole you must live in, really a shame. too bad that this page on tomzap can't just turn it around, get real, get help, get back to what the real intention of being a helpful and informative place for people to seek information, get answers(intelligent) and help them to enjoy their holiday in a fantastic local. Come on, post right or don't post. Barra page is resembling Huatulco page late last year, I fear some of those have slipped over to this side. Hope I'm wrong. Bob
Just want to let everyone know that we're giving away samples of the herbal insect repellant again in return for your feedback. See <http://www.tomzap.com/crocodile.html>.
A few people just came in by taxi from Guadalajara to Melaque, day before yesterday, and they paid 1800 pesos, without tip. Make sure you settle on the fare before you get into the taxi, otherwise it can prove to be a major hassle. I would recommend the first class bus. Takes about 4 hours, and costs about 180 pesos, one way. Safe travel Jean
We were down for two weeks last April and the weather was great. The crowds were no problem, actually kind of fun. However, that being said, it was very disappointing to see the trash that was left everywhere, particularly on the beach. To the locals credit, the day following the holidays after the crowds had left, many, many people(ourselves included) were out picking up the trash and sweeping the streets and in one days time the town transformed itself back to the great place it always is.
so Lisa what did you find out about Barra? I will be visiting with our 3 small children? It sounds wonderful. Have a great trip and hopefully we should to. Any additional info that you found would be useful.Brooke
Me from LA??? No, ma'am. I'm from B.C. just like 98% of everyone else down here. Thanks for the info about Luke & Anna Jean. I've been hearing alot of stories about why they left, why the won't come back. I'll be able to visit them when I go out to Saltspring this summer. Adios for now. gumbo
Could I please have more info on the water park.This is the first I have heard of it.Does it have slides ect?Cost?We will be in Barra soon with little ones who love water slides.Thanks
Open daily except Monday, approx 25 peso entrance fee and it has several pools and slides. Also picnicing area and snack bar. Halfway between Barra and Jaluco.
hhmmm, makes me wonder how much other restaurants not mentioned give to the community, and who does the tracking of that and how? Rose, you have any idea?
We will be there Feb. 22-Mar.1...any openings? If so, how much?
The park has small 6-8 ft slides into a pool that's about 1 foot deep. Then there are 3 larger slides that would entertain a teenager. The Barra - Melaque bus will stop there.
We had 2 adults/ 2 kids and paid 80 pesos.
Thank you all for the helpful information! You're a terrific bunch! Sandy
Hi, I was wondering if anyone here can recommend a good hotel in Guadalajara for $50 USD or less per night. Thanks, Paul
How's the weather down in Melaque this year? I'm a week in Sayulita, a week in PUerto Vallarta, then heading to Melaque or Barra for two more weeks. Any effects from el niņo down there this year?
A bit warmer and more humid than in past years but still quite pleasant. Water temps. also 3-4 degrees warmer than usual. What a welcome change, however, from the frigid north.
Try Hacienda del sol in Tonala its new and only 250 pesos a night
El nino was here and now its gone. Water temps dropped 5 degrees this week. Alls cool again!
Hello: I will be in Melaque in March and am curious how the bug and pest conditions are? If bad, any ideas about repellants? Thank You [%sig%]
Our unemployment scheme in Canada is called "Employment Insurance" as it is designed to be an income source while you're looking for work to tide you over until you become re employed. We do have direct deposit however you can't collect if you are out of the country. So no Mexico winters funded by the Government of Canada! Or should I say funded by the employers and employees of Canada. From what I understand it is better than the US plan in that it pays more types of benefits and in some circumstances can pay if you quit a job or are fired.
We've never had trouble with traveller's cheques in Canadian funds. Crazy to take a bath on the exchange for US dollars.
Share a cab to Barra Feb. 22? We fly in from Vancouver Saturday, arriving at Manzanillo approx 2 pm and would like to share a cab to cut costs. Drop us a line if on the same flight.
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Hi, I was curious if there is frequent bus service to outlying areas. I am looking to do a few day trips from Barra to places like: Cihuatlan Colima Colimilla Cuastecomates Manzanillo Tonala Thank you for any help.
Paul
Thanks!
I have stayed at Motel Isabel near the Templo Expiratorio...it's clean, quiet, in an almost business/residential neighbourhood. Easy bus ride downtown or a ten block walk. Hope this bit helps. wen
Everyone at Mickey D's say Hi and they miss U.............
Why are you using my e-mail address????????????????????/Dad.
Looking for cheapest airfare to Manzanillo for a week or two from Vancouver? Any ideas? Thanks. Tim
I'm heading to Barra in a couple of weeks...should be there March 2nd. Cuastecomotes runs are very easy from Melaque, which a quick bus ride from Barra. I think there are about 4-5 bus runs to La Manzanilla from Barra a day. lots of buses run to Manzanillo every day. Manzanillo is more of a working port city...kind of interesting daytrip for a guy like me from landlocked Colorado. Don't know about the others. Colima would probably be better done overnight. I think you have to connect in Manzanillo. Good Luck and have fun!
Check with 'CheapTickets'....west jet actually flies a charter through SunQuest Vacations. I got a ticket leaving this Saturday for 2 weeks (Feb. 22) return for $475.00 including taxes. Good luck. (Oh, the "Flight Center" also has tickets for $490.00
The cabs are small and there would only be room for 1 other person unless you got a bigger cab, then you defeat the purpose of the cost savings.
We have had great luck in the past sharing a cab- they usually take 4 people so hopefully this go around will be the same....
Just back after 10 days-Saw a poster for an overnight bus trip to Tonala'. We took a bus to LaManzinilla for a day at the beach there. It's real easy to catch a local bus to make little trips to Barra, Melaque, CuasteComates, etc. I wish mass transit were as convenient and cheap here!
Good question-just back and noticed "no see ums" this year-or some called them "sand fleas". Lots of bug bites around legs/ankles. I don't recall even having this problem before. Let me know so I can bring a repellent next year.
Kids in Barra? You couldn't ask for a safer place for your children on vacation! We stayed at the El Marquez Hotel and it has a small pool with 3 depths and a play yard with swings, slide, teeter-totters and a tiled area for kids to play with toys. It's enclosed so they can't run out into the street. Personally I wouldn't let kids swim in the lagoon-the water seems polluted altho the locals use it all the time. The beach at Barra is said to be "surgy" with some undertow so not recommended for kids swimming, The beaches at LaManzanilla, Tenacatita, Cusatecomates are perfect for kids with gentle sloping sugar sand beaches, gentle waves, clear water-give them a bucket and a shovel and they'll have a ball! The restaurants all seem patient and accommodating of little ones so introduce them to some new foods-they'll love it! The Mexican culture is very family oriented-they love children-just Have fun!
I loved Colima but I spent 7 days there. The poster above is right, it is great to spend at least one overnight there. I recommend the Hotel Merced. Lots of shorter ones to keep busy too.
March 2nd - end of month.. What is available. just a cheap place... one person.
There seem to be few more bugs this year than in the previous several - probably attributable to the late winter rains/El Nino cycle. Due to it's proximity to the lagoon, Barra and Villa Obrigon appear to have more of a problem with this than Melaque. Any good high "deet" content repellant such as Off works pretty well. Several of the commonly recognized US brands are available locally in the pharmacies and markets and a local product called "Autan" seems to be a bit superior to the others. This latter repellent is a Bayer product not available in the US. Herb F. Grand Junction, Colorado
Arrived back today from a month in Villa Obregon...right by the lagoon. Had almost no trouble with bites at all.....maybe one on my toe or something. Each evening around 4 - 5 would put a little touch of Autan around ankle and feet areas and also just a touch on clothing.....no problems at all.....honestly nothing to worry about. We arrived the day of the earthquake....about 4 hours prior and that was an unbelievable experience....two more the following day. The weather was warmer and humider for the first two weeks and then cleared and was fabulous rest of the time.......even cooling off just right in the evening. Send any questions you like and I will try to answer. I have been every year for 6 years and this year was the best trip of all..........we spent most of our time in Melaque and although we had kitchen facilities we ate all dinner and most lunches out frequenting the local Mexican establishments.........food fabulous......people fabulous....ocean warmer than ever......surf a bit tricky at times......but can honestly say that anyone who would not enjoy a vacation there just doesn't know how to have fun and relax!!! I am tired to be back here on Vancouver Island in the damp cold weather and am going to miss my 4:30 pm cervesa til sunset on the beach ritual.....watching the local young boogie boarders who have to be the most amazing and daring athletes having a great time.....like I said any questions just email me and I will try to answer.....won't get anything negative here....
What's wrong with everyone arguing about where to eat just try them all. I just went to a lovely Mexican restaurant in Kuna Idaho, now try find that one on the map. The family comes from Colima, Colima. The food is great and most of the people there are gringos and a few Mexicans so should all the gringo's who live in Idaho not go there because it's truly Mexican owned. Al the help are Mexican and truly wonderful people..That place is packed every day and night. . In the US we eat not so much where or who owns the restaurant but what we seem to be hungry that night. We do the same in Mexico we eat when we are hungry and what we are hungry to eat that day. . Perhaps that is the American way. While in Mexico we love the little Los Arco's(actually the lovely little couple that runs the place could serve us anythng and we'c pay for it and be happy) . Alll the way down we talk about Chris's(Bannanas) Seafood Fettucinni and the Pozole and Atole at the square in Melaque and then the little guy who make the Churro's in Melaque in the square and after we have been there for awhile we have to go Tessa's for a burger even though at home we seldom eat a burger. The Maya rest. was good and then there is the pastry shop by the square in Melaque. Sometime we eat the ice cream from the guy on the bicycle he stops by Jesse's place. Then there's Cesears and Charlies on the beach adn on an on it goes, My husband and Jessie eat at some taco stand and if your with Jesse you get two tortillas on the taco so he says. Travel with Jesse as it sounds like he has clout.. At any rate try all the places enjoy your vacation and try to make Barra/Malaque green by leaving your money there. There used to be that saying in Las Vegas keep Las Vegas green the sign read, leave your money here. Barb
Just letting you know that I have enjoyed better success with this stuff against no-see-ums than I have with 100% DEET, Autan, Skin-So-Soft, or anything else I've tried.
Barb, well said, we'll be leaving our share of green there next month, not in Vegas, just Melaque and area, and as much of the Costalegre as possible. Regards Bob
go with ray from costa allegre tours .He has day trips to colima and tenacatita or where ever you want to go .
Don't let any of these negative comments deter you. Just go to Barra, Melaque, etc. Before my trip, I read all the crap on these boards and wondered what I had got us into. Once we got there, some things were true, most didn't reflect the essence of the area. Most things are not discussed here. There are many more good restaurants, hotels, shops, bars, than are ever mentioned here. Keep in mind when reading all the posts that competition for customers is fierce. The people are lovely, the beach is beautiful and Mexico is not scary. (Las Vegas is scary!)There are probably bad places in Mexico but this is not one of them. The people are the best part. The locals and the tourists were warm and friendly. It was kinda weird compared to my experience at home, I am not usually greeted by everyone I see. People there like to talk to one another. I felt privileged to be visit and felt like I had been somewhere when I left.
My trip to Melaque gave me more joy than anything because I had the opportunity to experience the true wonder of the people of the community. Get involved if you are there for any time and it is so rewarding. My daughter and I were at Caxcan one evening helping bag food for the poor people up in the villages near Colima that were hit hard by the earthquake. It was fun as a tourist to be able to contribute at least a little and the joy seeing people like Froy and Bernard and their family organizing this help and taking their time to make the trip to deliver the help. I also had an amazing experience with a wonderful woman named Ursula who donates part of every day to helping young children in Ville Obregon learn english by singing and playing....I helped teach some dance a few times and had the greatest joy with these wonderful kids so eager to learn. There are countless opportunities and great people doing this kind of thing in the area.....my advice...if you are visiting somewhere and want to enjoy the place...make an effort to get to know the people......in this place they are lovely and there are many people who spend their time there because of the people and how hospitable they are.
Hi, We going to Villa Obregon on Wed 2/26, and we'd like to rent a car for some side trips to Colima and the Volcano. Is there any rentals around Melaque/Barra? Or would I be best to just get one at the airport. I'm not too happy with that as I don't need a car for my entire 9 days in Mexico... just about 3 for some safaris. Gracias, Cristobal en Tacoma, WA
This may be the only negative thing I ever post on this board but we rented a car from Crazy Cactus for three days in Barra....they charge about 500 pesos a day including 200 km a day....and insurance. Seems like a good deal and really was but doing business with the people that run the place was such a negative experience we will never go there again.......they tried to charge us for 4 hours to vaccuum the car and their attitude stinks.......honestly vowed I would never write a negative thing here but if those women ever smiled or acted the least bit friendly I swear their faces would crack. My husband who is the most mellow person I know was furious and actually got in to a confrontation with them.....the only negative experience in month long vacation.
I rented a car in Manzanillo (I was staying there) from National for $45 a day complete. Actually only charged me $80 for 2 days 'cause I brought it back a little early. Possibly take a bus to Manzanillo - rent and return it there. Manzanillo is also worth the visit. I'd suggest a nice place to stay if interested.
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Just got back from Barra and would like to encourage anyone with the slightest thought about taking spanish lessons from Bonnie at Amigas to JUST DO IT...... I've tried several ways of teaching myself spanish but never had such good luck as I did with Bonnie. It's fun and you really do learn to speak quickly..DO IT ...YOU'LL LOVE IT.....
Ditto for my feelings about Crazy Cactus
Once you get there, talk to David at Bananrama's, he will probably know of someone who will drive you to Colima and other area's of interest. Some of the local business people do this on the side, or they are also making the trip for supplies and such.
Hey, it's worth the price just to spend time around Bonnie! Had one of my best ever trips to the circus in her company a few years back...
Joke heard around Barra: Someone asks: "Hey Tracy (Crazy Cactus), what time is it"?
Tracy answers: " 1 o clock. That'll be 2 dollars"
I agree-if we hadn't been going for the past 6 yrs.-I too would have had 2nd thoughts after reading some of the negative sounding things . But it can't be too bad, we keep going back! I think it's next thing to Paradise on earth! We had an exceptional meal at Sea Master's this year and also at Mar Y Tierra. That is in additional to all the other places we love! So give them a try too!
Amen, Daphne! Love your attitude! We had taken some of our grandson's outgrown clothing and shoes in our luggage and dropped them off at the church in Barra. We always need the space in our luggage to fill up with goodies we buy there anyway! The church has suffered some damage and is now closed off because of being unsafe to enter. Some friends made a generous donation to the Padre to help with the repairs. Quite a story behind the broken crucifix on the altar. Check it out!
Hi-We ate Breakfast at Rooster's this vacation-good breakfast-wonderfully warm and cordial couple running it! Try it someday, too! We always try to find someplace we haven't eaten before just to keep trying something new! As my friend says, "it's an adventure!". Thank God there's no McDonald's or anything like that!
... Rollo del Mar, as served in the waterfront restaurants in Barra. There is one recipe on the web for this dish, but I don't believe in some details it's quite right, and on one large detail, it's definitely not: it does not include the almond sauce.
Can anyone help? Many thanks!
National is the way to go and you donīt have to go to Manzanillo you can pick up and drop off at the airport. Tracy has to have the foulest mouth Iīve ever heard she could make a trucker blush.
I hear a lot about resturants in Melaque/San Patricio. There is a new ONE Called {LOS PONCHOS} which is in the town BUS STATION.If you want to help a local Mexican and his Family and want excellent food like Grilled BBQ chicken or GREAT TACOS go to PONCHOS (Open 24hrs every day 7 Days a week. TELL HIM RICARDO AMOR SENT YOU AND HE {RICARDO} JUST MIGHT BE THERE TO SING AGAIN>
Ramon ... I only suggested Manzanillo because of the bus. You need to take a taxi to and from the airport. There is a nice cheap hotel in Santiago to stay over.
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Don't forget Sharon's classes 3 days a week if you are in Melaque. 3 levels for about 1 1/2 hours each day. Ask at Banarama ... she's just around the corner on the beach.
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Hi, We always bring a lot of stuff down clothes and toys. This year we had given away some things to special people that we know there and had a lot of clothes and toys in our room when the earthquake came. The people at the El Marquez said he would have their maids give it out to the people in the Barrio. We really regret that we left as we have always love Barra/Melaque so much. I usually by the summer clothes on sale in the winter here in Idaho and they are really good buys. Barb
If you decide to stay in Manzanillo, try the Colonial Hotel. It's down town and has a wonderful little restaurant inside.
Kip.........we have rented cars from Tracye for 8 yrs.We have never been treated poorly!!! Both women have been very friendly and helpful with information and advice...........The prices we felt were not unreasonable for good safe newer cars......and have never paid extra because of the condition the car was in when we returned it....
Can someone tell me the best week of the winter for fishing? In "Z" it was usually the week of Jan14 through Feb.7. Is it about the same in Barra? Think it's time for a change, especially if Barra is what Z used to be like before it was discovered. Ignore the negative posts, people just want to vent and get attention. Just like work back in the states. Never had anything but a great time in Mexico and I've been going down for twenty years, just haven't been to Barra de Navidad yet. Always been a budget traveller, don't have a lot of cash, but somehow manage to have a fun life.
How do you get it?
Amen, other boards are the same, It is a poor country and competion for tourist dollars is tough. Once you are down there it is hard to believe you can say anything negative, I work for a railroad and other than that there is nothing but tourism to support our economy. The best ones make it, the others don't. The Mexicans can never lose on being hospitable or gracious hosts, but there are so many hotels, restaraunts, and charter boats, only the best will survive. It is like that all over the world.
Steve go to the top of this page , click on the highlighted tom zap, and follow the instructions, don't let the bed bugs bite. Regards Bob
Does everyone know there is an incredible Japanese restaurant....well food stall really in the lane behind the square in Melaque......they have sushi!!! What an experience getting sushi for take out....fresh and delicious......better get there early tho!
Amen April, I too was apprehensive about going, what with all the negitive things that i had been told. But my wife and I decided to bite the bullet and go to Barra. and we found a Heaven on Earth!! the people are Warm, the Food speaks for itself! Music is everywhere, We are Headed down this next Feb for two weeks, I can hardly wait!! (DAHECHWIDHAWAII)
If you have not tried LOS PONCHOS at the Main BUS station in MELAQUE you will never be able to say you where at one of the BEST when visiting MELAQUE and and the true MEXICO.
Have they been renting cars for 8 years?
Tons of places to eat on and around the square in Melaque.....all run or owned by Mexicans....just eat at any taco stands. Try Flor Marena if it is open and the food is the best I've had there......wait for it ...it's worth it and there is a place right next door that has some tables outside surrounded by plants where the food is good and they play great music. Or just sit down with the Mexicans at any of their taco stands where they are cooking on the street. Both Alcatraz restaurants in Melaque and Barra serve great food....locally owned. We never had a bad meal. Ate out all the time and even had a kitchen....lazy I know but were on vacation. Try Michelles Paris Internet cafe for a great sandwich at lunch....some great gossip in three languages and to email home at the same time. Explore with the food.......
Hi, I was curious if any of the local fishermen will take out travellers for short fishing trips. I am interested in something a little more traditional than going out on a comercial boat. I have read that the panga fishermen in Melaque will take you out for short trips. Is there something similar in Barra?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Paul
Hi, Just a thank you to everyone that has provided me with information. I really appreciate it.
Paul
Hi I have seen the great fireworks in Melaque on Mar. 17 a few times but have not been to Melaque for 2 years. I recall the event was held at a diiferent date last year. If this was true is it true for this year and what other events are taking place during the celebrations.
Hi there Get in toch with Enrique Figueroa.He's a fantastic guy and he fishes fron a panga.He'll take you offshore for for El Grande,or stay inshore if you like.You stand a better chance for action/numbers if you stay inshore,and can tool around or snorkel if the fishing is slow.His name and # can be found on this site under"FISHING".Enjoy...
I just rented a VW - no A/C from Hertz via telephone. I think I might have gotten the AAA discount but for 10 days rental it was only $273. But you have to either pay an additional $15 day or be willing to put a hold on your credit card (until the car is returned) for 10% of the car's value, or approx. $10,000.
Room available .
House available from 27 February to 13 March.
Do you have anything available in early April? What is the cost? Thank you.
We are in Melaque and it is wonderful as usual. Sure has grown and quite a few of the streets paved now. Time is going fast though and soon we will be headed home. The weather is just beautiful and hard to imagine winter as our relatives in Alberta just had -37. See you in Loonies in March
hi, you can any kind of fishing trip that you want, yes barra has lot's of panga's and you can rent any of them for a long day or just a few hour's.. i was in barra for 4 months last year and rented all kind of panga's from all day to just a few hour's.. its mexico, you have money and you can get what you want... have fun and good luck to you [%sig%]
Hi Christina Yes we do have availability and would be happy to help. contact me directly at burtonbob51@hotmail.com or through the web site at www.smalltownadventuresmexico.com
My wife and I just spent 2 very enjoyable weeks in Edwardo's house and am sure whoever rents it will be pleased with the house and the location.-Page
Hey Laura: Glad you're having a good time. Wish we could go but we had to change our holiday plans. We just got back from LA. Visited our daughter, did a little golf. A lot of rain and very little sun. Not as easy to relax in Southern California as it is in Melaque.
Next year Melaque for sure!
Peter
Hello, some nice photos of the 2003 pool cookout at Villas Camino Del Mar in Melaque.
See them at http://www.msbyth.com Go to MELAQUE then to lower right of page yo will see Camino Del Mar Photos.
We will try and get the others up soon.
If anyone would like to recieve any of the photos of yourself or your friends please let me know.
Rooster www.msbyth.com
GO down by the area where the Pangas are or ask around the hotel you are in and get together about 5 people and you can rent the boat a driver for the day as they only charge for the boat not the number of people in the boat. It works out well. Now the Mary Chuy they charge by the person so that's a different deal. WE were asked to join a group one year who rented one to go to the jungle trip at Tenatcatica. We had a good time and made some new friends Barb
hi- i am a 25 year old female who wishes to drive from Vancouver, BC, Canada in November of 2003. if anyone has any info about the safest route, cheapest way, and good places to stay along the way- please let me know. i drive a '97 Civic Hatchback and will be taking some expensive electronic equipment..where is the best place to store it? my email address is bonitabonnie@hotmail.com. Thanks so much, bonnie
For sale 1,500 sq meters beach front lot. info at: Mexico 315-355-7292 Vickie US or Canada 1-800-422-2824 or 541-742-6208 Dan e-mail melaqueone@aol.com letsgofishing@seanet.com [%sig%]
We rented a car on a couple of occasions in December, and we had no problem at all with Crazy Cactus. We found they were helpful and reliable, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to others. It was very convenient to pick up the car right in Barra too.
We also rented surfboards from them on a couple of occasions and again had no problems.
Sorry that someone has had a bad experience. We had one or two things go wrong with our holiday as well (airline stuff) - but one needs to put it all in perspective. In the case of rental cars - would you prefer to go for convenience of having a car rental really close by, or go with a bigger company in Manzanillo, which will require your time and greater cost to get there? You choose!
If you decide to rent a car from Crazy Cactus, be sure to book ahead as there is a limited supply of cars.
If anyone is travelling to Barra in the next month and would be willing to take a small box of cd's to Lalo at Piper Lovers you would be lavishly rewarded. I live in Olympia Washington but wherever you are in North America would be easier and safer to ship to than to Manzanillo via DHL. Many ears await.
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Hey Rooster who ever you are. I at no time had said anything about putting a web cam into Bigotes and in fact when you suggested it to me in one of your emails to me asking for my opinion, I responded with a definite no and thought it was an infringement on everyones privacy, and feel that it would serve absolutely no purpose, nor would it do anything to enhance the local economy, and in fact may be a detriment to their business, or any other business's that may service people wishing to have a non broadcasted vacation. I would prefer that you take your own credit for the idea and don't associate my name, my company's name, or me with your schemes as I don't know you or what your up to with your games, and don't want anything to do with you or your schemes. Ramon - I do work for a 10% service charge, for my services and do all of my business with Mexican owned establishments and suggest to my client's that they also support Mexican owned tour operators that are locals, while they are here visiting. My business was set up to help the local people of the town not to take business away from them. I also employ 2 local families to help with the work at my Bungalows that are owned by a Mexican family.I do use Bigotes as a meeting place for my client's to contact me in the afternoons or leave a message, The Mexican Family that owns the business are very good personal friends of myself and my wife and have been for years, and again recommend my client's to their business. I personally very seldom have anything alcoholic to drink before 6 in the afternoon when I finish work for the day out of respect for my client's. I also don't know who you are, but you always seem to have something negative to say about everyone, even though you don't know them or anything about their business. It was local Mexican people that asked for my help in promoting their business's and in fact have lots of local letters of reference and recommendation, including the Delagado for San Particio, Melaque. As far as the 10% aspect, I think that is a very reasonable fee for organizing everything for people in advance, and if you're of a different opinion so be it. I could charge more, but then you'd have to change the name tag that you so freely seem to attach to others. Anytime you'd like to have a face to face meeting Ramon I'd be more than happy to discuss my business committment to the local people.Just send me an email saying where and when. Bob Moody STAMexico (notBob from B.C.)
Bob, could not have said it better if someone had written it for me, these two bit clowns can't even get there own web site act together, talk about merchandising themselves, you need it they got it! but what do they have and to who's benefit, I have made my feelings clear on the web cam(see past posts on this page), this is clearly an opportunity for these people to capitalize for themselves on this site. Bob from BC
Was wondering if they rebuilt the Hotel Bogavante in Bara? Stayed there 3 years ago and heard it was lost to weather and have heard it's now rebuilt anyone know the answer?
O h yea Bob youīre a regular mother Theresa. If you are really just helping the Mexicans then why charge 10% do it for free or because it feels good. Then maybe you would be known around as Benevolent Bob instead of your current nicname.
boys... Do I have to pull over this car????
Sorry, todavía no está
We rented a nice car from National (at the Manzanillo airport) for a total of $459.00 for 12 days, and that included all fees and taxes (I used my credit card insurance to avoid their high insurance fees). I made reservations by telephone before my trip and made sure to get a TOTAL price including all taxes. When I arrived at Manzanillo they tried to add tax on top of the $459, but I was insistant that I was quoted $459 TOTAL and they let it go at that. Too bad one must argue to get what was previously argeed upon, but it did turn out to be a good price. When you consider bus and taxi fees, not to mention the convenience of having your own car, it is well worth it. Those "short" walks you plan to take into town, etc, turn out to be time- wasting drudgery, and you would spend a lot of time wating for buses and taxis.
Rooster: you seem to be da man when it comes to info....so here goes.
Do you know the Monterrey in Melaque? Is it clean...nice pool? Noisey? I like that part of town...closer to the swimable water.
Also..we arrive in P.V. at 1:pm...will we be able to make it Melaque by evening?
appreciate your response Ken Roberts Creek B.C. Canada
This looks like a great site but impossible to use or log on to ....is there some secret? Or some special program required?
Ramon & Rooster: I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to make, so I seek clarification.
As I understand this, these gentlemen provide a service, to people who want the service, and are willing to pay the fee they charge.
Your point seems to be that because some of their cients are Mexican, they should provide their service for free to Mexican clients? If this is your point, what constitutes this entitlement?
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Ken The Monterrey is fine but a little more tired than Las Brisas (just down the street) and they are both the same price. Las Brisas pool is nicer but not out on the beach. Monterrey has a restaurant on the grounds that might produce a little noise ... but good food.
Last first class bus from PV is about 12:30 but there are slower locals about every hour.
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Ken, I have never stayed at the Monterrey but I do have some photos of the front. It looks like its a nice place. I believe the cost is around $23 a night but that could have changed. Also you can get a second class bus at the bus terminal north of the airport about every 30 minutes. Cost will be $12.75 us it will take about 4 or 5 hours depending on the driver. I like these busses. This will get you into Melaque around 7 pm. If you want to stay in PV for the night I can suggest Andales, (www.andales.com ) this is a all in one place right in the center of old town and all the action. Peggy the manager is english spoken and the food is great. If you like night life it has plenty of that. If I can help in anyway please let me know. Rooster Daphne you don't need a password to navigate through our site yet, only the "chat room" requires a name and password. If you would like one, just register in the Message board and use that name and password. Thanks Thanks everyone Rooster Our site: www.msbyth.com
I know that Perula is a little north of the usual areas posted on this board. It is about 1 1/2 hours north of Melaque just past Chamela but a wonderful day trip. Was wondering if anyone knows where I can get any information on this town and accomodation. We spent a wonderful day there about 2 weeks ago on the deserted beach and did see a group of tourists arriving in a bus and being put on a boat to go to an off shore island....I believe for snorkeling. But was wondering if there were any tourist services....places to stay etc. in the town.
Hola, Was thinking of sending this site to a friend...........but I can't believe the on going bickering and negativity on this site! What happened to the people who love Melaque and Barra? Is this an attempt to keep tourists away? I agree I would hate to see any chains move in........but stop the childish comments Canadians beavers whats next.........Mexican.........American.........Canadian we are all people let us respect one another and our different cultures. I love Mexico and it's people & I thank them for sharing there country with me.......can't wait to return. Adios Sandra
Sandra I was thinking the same thing! I would like this site to be more possitive. Being from the cold regions up north' I started reading these posts to give myself a vacation feeling not a blood pressure raiser. I have always looked at web cams and dreamed of the beach. It seems that the web cam idea got alot of responses, mostly bad. I don't like the idea of an outsider putting up a web cam but I will support one if a native of The Bay of Barra area put one up. Why are we fighting on here when we should be laughing at pool or beach party stories! I feel gunshy everytime I post om here, and I shouldn't have to. Everyone :) (B) Be Happy!
Rooster
Christina, yeagh maybe you should pull the car over, lot's of confusion on this page as to who is doing what to whom, not in my mind, but if some of the antagonists(spelling) would stop with the neg,s all would be a happier place. You know that commercialism(now that's a big word) should not be the focus of this forum it's really all about personal comments and experiences of those who have been to melaque/barra and those who think they might like to go there, those who have not been there are looking for advise and help with questions. Sandra by all means send this site to your friends, they will cut thru the crap, which by no means reflects on barra/melaque, just some goofs who really don't know. Enough! Bob
Check out costalegre.ca this info there. I plan on stopping there myself in March on the way from PVR.
Rooster the best suggestion that I can come up with to parrote your words, to keep this site more positive, is for you to refrain from your crass commercilization(spelling) on this site, man you got web cams going here and there, next thing you don't agree with web cam's, your then bashing local's, then your saying local's are putting in web cam's on your behalf at Bigotes, then you get Ramon all goofed up. You confuse me with somebody else cause I'm sure you can't or don't read, and further you don't get the message that most people who use this site really don't want to hear about your own web site, I can't believe that Tom isn't charging you for ad space, but then why would you charge for a nothing site. Bob
Pick up a copy of the Pacific Coast Mexico Handbook by B. Whipperman. It covers the whole coast north to south!
I am going there on Friday of this week.
If you can overnight them to me so I receive them by Thursday, I will gladly deliver them.
I live in Portland. You can call me Wednesday at (503) 710-0131 if you are interested.
Jim
sparks you are de man, rooster must have found a bus schedule or a web site with the bus times, maybe he gets 10% from Andales in PV. Bob
Boy Bob you sure like to see yourself in print. Ramons goofed up? It sounds like you may be a little on the GOOFY side, if you are considering 10% Bob (the Weasel) a local.
Bob, It seems that you know alot about Melaque..... I am thinking about visiting this spring and need a nice safe place to stay. Can you tell me the places you have stayed and do you prefer a certain place?Also how many times have you been to Melaque? Thanks Vivian
Monterrey is a fine place to stay, I prefer over Las Brisas. Try to get a room facing the ocean and not the courtyard.if possible but both are fine. I can't remeber the name of hotel right next door, to the right as you face the ocean, but it is nice also and has bigger rooms with kitchen facility. Las Brisas has common kitchen facility as well. Prices were in the $35 and up range . Have fun [%sig%]
Well Bob ... we couldn't stay away for long. Aren't you almost there??
Sid ... both listed at 330 pesos this year but should be able to get 260+/- if you tell them you're there for a week+.
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We are arriving in March. So excited. Have not been there for 25 years. Is there anything special we need to bring. Enjoy all the info. Thanks.
Christinna, do Dave at Bananrama's gringo friends who rent cars or take side trips to Colima have the requirred permits and insurances to take passengers on side trips?
Not sure what hotel monterrey and las brisas list their prices at, just know what they charged us last year. Just got back last week; both melaque/barra and manzanillo seem a little economically depressed. Very few tourist in manz although it seemed like nothing but tourist in barra.
There is a new hotel going up in down town barra near the church.
Manalo's in Manz is closed, too bad best ham steak around. Wish I were there. you'll have a great time.
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Vivian Bob says I'm the man so I guess I can try ... besides I think he's almost in transit. I stayed at Las Brisas and Puesta del Sol. Both are nice, safe and in the $26-33us range (for single). Really I've never seen a post where someone felt unsafe or unhappy with anything in Melaque. My first stay I stuck with the Puesta del Sol because it was the closest to a Motel 6 and spoke a little english at the desk. This time I looked around and Las Brisas was what I ended up with based on price, location and appearance.
There are many nice places but if your first time you might try one of these and then look around and talk to people. Be cautious (or avoid) if your trip is in April due to Semana Santa (April 13 - 20+/-). Holidays are busy times on the beach for Mexicans and this is a big one.
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Please can someone answer if the fireworks are on the 17th or earlier. I am heading down to pvr and then Barra and would like to plan my trip around the events. Thanks for any information.
For sale or for rent room. Eduardo
vivian, yes as sparks said we are in transit, to answer your questions how often have we been to Melaqe, six times in the past 3 years. Does that make us an expert on the costalegre, no it does not, however it has given us the chance to enjoy the flavor of the area, an opportunity that I can only reccomend that you may want to share. We have been to many other areas of Mexico over the past few years, you want details just ask. As to your question about where we stay, well if I told you that I would be giving away the best kept secret in Melaque. Bob
Hello: I am going to be in Manzanillo on 3/13 does anyone know what it costs to take a cab to Melaque?
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Hello: I will be leaving Melaque and going to PV. Does anyone know what the hotel name is for the hotel that is 4 or 5 stories and is next to Los Arcos? It is on the waterfront. Or,,,a good hotel in Old Town? And have you heard of,,,something like Pasada Mequel? Thank You [%sig%]
no Ramon you are hung up on 10% bob, I did not say you were goofy, simply that rooster get's you going. What has rooster and his gang of 40 given to Melaque, possible web cams? offering the opportunity to advertise on his web site!!!!!??? they are opportunists who are also trying to make a buck! The almighty buck makes the world go around. Bob
If you are taking a cab from the airport to Melaque you buy a ticket inside for 290 pesos and take your stub outside for a cab. There is an atm in the airport. I don't know what the cost would be from the city of Manzanillo
Looking at going to Melaque in March and considering booking a week at Bungalows Mayorca. Has anyone stayed there before? Any comments on the place would be appreciated. I am looking for a place with a kitchenette and 2 bedrooms would be nice.
Or, if you have any other moderately priced beach front accomodations that you would recommend, I'd love to hear about them.
Not even sure whether I should stay at Barra or Melaque, but Bungalows Mayorca looked nice. Thanks in advance for any information.
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Hotel Tropicana maybe??
www.htropicana.com
Pam try Andales.com its right down where you are asking about in PV, The managers name is Peggy. Its an all in one hotel, rest, bar. Have a good time.
Rooster
Daphne, Do you know the cost to Barra? We will be a party of eight. We need a big van to get us there. Thanks
Beachfront condo, 3 bedrooms, 1 large bath for rent in Barra at north end of town. Still have availability for Easter weeks. E-mail me if interested and I will send pictures. Walk to everything and just far enough away from town to be nice and quiet!
I know they have a van that holds six that costs about 600 pesos....you will probably have to rent 3 cabs......each cab will take 3 only. The cost to Barra is the same as Melaque.
Andrea get a hold of David at Cachorita Tours, he might be able to take care of you. I know he just got a new van for his business.
Rooster cachorita2000@hotmail.com
Pam DT Manzanillo would be almost twice the distance but you should be able to make a deal with the driver. I'd estimate $50us. Buses are frequent and easy for about $6-8.
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What price is this lot ?
Just a question from a Mexican who does not understand: Why is there often an animosity between americans and canadians? Canuks etc.
No not often but we are a seperate country with our own policy's. Although this may be difficult to fathom Canada continues to chart it's own path, in spite of overwelming pressure both economic and political. Perhaps our former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau said it best. He said , living next door to America is like sleeping with an elephant, it's ok until it rolls over on you! Canadians worst fear when travelling is that they may be mistaken for an American! We still have an association with the British Commonwealth of nations and therefore have strong ties to many country's such as India, Australia,etc. There is little anomosity between our two country's but we are different with somewhat differing values and views on world events.Thanks for your interest regards Brian
It's because Canadians have those heads that are cut in half and the top half bobs from side to side when they talk. And they say the word "about" wrong. I watch way too much South Park.
Can anyone please tell me what the tipping policy is for taxi driver's in the Barra area?
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Being an Alaskan, I think I qualify as nearly Canadian. We have more simularities than we do differences. I love all my Canadian friends, my Pastor and his family are Canadian, our firends in Melaque are Canadian. The only difference we have seems to be more speech related and a bit of cultural. Canadian's seems to be a bit more Unionized Common Thinkers where American are more Maverick about our day to day customs and ideas. Both have there strenghts and weaknesses. Regardless, This American couldnt ask for better neighbors than Canada and Mexico!
25% to 35% is our usual depending on his driving skills and distance. Some more, but never less.
you thinking of Posada Roger?
Wow,I love this board !! Thanks all for the info. Andrea
I don't think it has anything to do with animosity between Canadians and Americans......it has more to do with the way everyone else treats you when you say which you are......Canadians are proud to be Canadians and often it is assumed when travelling that we are Americans because of our similarities.
I'm sorry i asked the question to begin with.
I was just looking forward to coming to melaque and relax.
some of you might be real nice in person,but i dont know if i'd like to hang out with any of you.
hopefully we will have a good time while we are there.
I will try to refrain asking anything on this site again.
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SOUTHPARK RULES
Pam You are so right!!! There are some really sorry mutts lurking on this bulletin board. The same sorry mutts every time. Too bad as this used to be a really informative, enjoyable, and knowledgeable site.
In Melaque, as in most of the world, you meet people face to face. This message board is just the internet and anyone can air their dirty or clean laundry here.
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Pam by all means come to Melaque, relax ,have fun, enjoy, because the day you arrive is the day I have to leave, you won't be faced with the prospect of having to hang around with me. Enjoy! kindest regards Bob. I'm enroute
Pedro: We are like brother and sister,who has a love-hate relatinship. We americans consider ourselves the protector of our Canadian relative,therefore they SHOULD be loyal and do what we ask--but it doesn't always work that way!
Gracias a todos por sus respuestas... I had the same question... I hope everybody forget where we have been born and will say: I was born in Planet Earth, and that's it.
Are you agree?
Cheers Carlos!! If it was that simple there would be world peace! It is our cultures and values and greed that make us different all over the world. Thus the animosity even with neighbors so close. We will not change our values and culture nor will other countries.........so we must accept and embace our differences!
You are right Sandra....
Sparks in Seattle,...great web site. Pictures are wonderful and so helpful for those of us who've not been there yet. We've decided our next trip to Mexico will be south of PV after spending several vacations north of PV.
I am heading down to Barra in a couple of weeks.I want to bring home some of the beautiful Talavera Tiles to decorate my kitchen.Can I buy them in the area and if so where?
Was apprehensive myself when I first went down to La Manzanilla in 1982, Been going every year since and most times twice a year!
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I will be arriving in the Barra area sometime during the week before Easter. Since I will be sailing, I cannot definitively predict which day I will be arriving. This will make any reservations difficult to keep. Thus, I would like to find lodging when I arrive.
I understand, however, that Santa Semana is a popular vacation week for Mexican families. Does anyone have experience with this? Will lodging be available without reservations or are most hotels likely going to be full?
I appreciate any comments. Thanks!
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Christinna A 25 - 35% tip seems a bit high to me. Can anyone else confirm this?
Gary
hola everyone
25% and more does sound a bit high. I once asked a mexican how much she tipped at restaurants and she said 5% - 10% if at all. She said that some mexicans resent the tipping that gringos are accustommed to because it is difficult (financially) for them and it makes them look cheap by comparison.
Am looking for a good hotel in Uruapan central and things to see and do nearby? Thanks for your help S
Gary ... most Mexicans I know don't tip taxi drivers. Gringos do because we are used to it. I base my tip on the service I get and how friendly the driver is. Never more than 20% so far and sometimes nothing. The drivers really don't expect it.
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hey April I live in LAS VEGAS and it's not scary--it's fun
Hola everyone, Im sure I will get slack for posting this but "Oh Well" We just put up new photos on our site of the latest turtle release. Come take a look and please enjoy. www.msbyth.com Thanks Rooster
Jan ... I'm having lunch tomorrow here in Seattle with two people (unrelated) who have never been to the area. Hopefully my two friends who live here that I met in Melaque a couple of years ago will come as well. Reminds me of the great people I've come to know living or visiting in Melaque. Don't miss it for anything!
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Please visit us in out chat room, good or bad we would like to hear what you have to say. There is alot of talk about the Canadians and Americans fighting! WHY Please join us and lets talk.
Register and join the fiesta!
www.msbyth.com Thanks Rooster
Sven, I see you have the same e-mail address that Ramon uses. What other names do you post under.
PEDRO; prodigy.com Roger,whats up bad fish! Sven and Rogelio and Ramon get a room with both "BOBS" Bonnie & Daphe That will be 10% or is it 100% ADIOS ME
way to many goofy posters to night lets get some sense back on this site
not a chance, from what I have seen of your web site it appears to be badly broken, whats more is you are promoting bad feelings beetween canadians and americans while being the contrite third party. Don't know what your cause is but can only speculate in my own mind that you have an agenda to make money on this site! Good luck!
Rooster please go away.You are always trying to SELL your lame site on this board. Nobody wants your blatant comercialism on this site. Iīm bad enough,leave these people in peace. Regards Ramon
Do not know these people. I just wanted some information. Am using a cyber cafe in Melaqque. Is this the wrong place for info?
Sven, look at the date and time of your last post. Are cyber cafes in Melaque open at that time? You're still using the same e-mail address as Ramon, A hotmail address.
Hola desde Barra de Navidad... Are you comming to Barra?, WELCOME!!! Where are you from?
Must do reservation right away...
Rogelio ... a couple of things. The time on this web site is still incorrect. Also, once when I went to Internet Cafe el Centro in the market to use this board ... Carlos's name (an old negative poster) was in the box. Possibly the email address is not being changed from previous user. ??? Es posible!
My computer says 6:45am No Sven ... probably not a good place to get info on Uruapan but you never know.
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Hotel Plaza Uruapan is good and central. Things to see; Parque Nacional Eduardo Ruiz is walking distance from this hotel. It is the headwaters for a river-lush vegetation, waterfalls, etc. To the west about 40 kilometres is Paricutin Volcano-a fascinating place. To the east about 50 kilometres is Patzcuaro-city and lake-both very interesting.
Talavera comes from Puebla. It is fired 3 times. Because of that it is more expensive. Not every paintet and glazed tile is Talavera. You can buy tiles in Puerto Vallarta or Tlaquepaque (Guadalajara). I dont have seen any in Barra but I might be wrong.
Hello, My Mother (Joni) and 3 other of her friends are looking for a place to rent March 15 - 23. They would like to have a two rooms to accomadate 2 people each or a place to rent that is comfortable with 4 people. Please contact me with any information on a reasonable priced rent house or apt and also information on Hotels that might be vacant. I have in mind of some places, Chips and Hotel Barra, but with it being St.Patricks Day I dont know about the vacancy. Thanks, Jakara
Yes Sparks, your computer says 6:45 in Seattle. It shows on the board here as 8:47. In case you are unaware, the time difference is two hours between Seattle and Melaque. Time on the website is correct. Ramon's email address appears on two of Svens posts. Both posted at different times.
Yesterday, we went on a day trip with a non profit group to Perula.Takes approx. an hour and a half to get to Perula.Our guide Andy had lots of info. about the areas we were passing through. After arrival in Perula, a 20 minute boat trip takes you to a small island ...WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE AN UMBRELLA IF YOU DONT WANT TO SPEND MOST OF YOUR TIME UNDER THE PALAPA. Sorry for the capitals.After the boat trip back,you can get an excellent lunch where the boat lands.Tickets are available at Hawaii, Casa Chips etc....there are lots of signs up around town as to where tickets are available.A bonus was the numerous draws on the way back where several people won a free lunch or dinner.Cost of the trip was 200 pesos per person.I thought we got excellent value for our money.Profits from the trips go towards disadvantaged kids.
Where is the house located...rent... thanks
Rogelio ... yes I know the time difference and I guess Tom fixed the problem. When he first moved the server it was 6-8-10 hours off. Maybe they have server farms in India ??
The other side of this is ... trying to track down every anonymous poster on the internet is an impossible task .. unless on of your neighbors is Sven.
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Mr. Chips may I ask you something? How can we no for sure where the money is going? Is there a way for us to check on an account or something? Are there records of this?
Can you post on here the people that are involved? OR IS THIS A SCAM?
ARE YOU INVOLVED?
Please comment!
Mike
Nice pics, Thanks
Isnt it nice without the Bobs in here!
It's been a few years since I've stayed at The Sands in Barra. There used to be a disco called the Galeon next door. It made staying at The Sands a bit noisy, especially on the weekends. Does anyone know if this disco still operates and anything more about the current condition of The Sands?
I enjoyed waking up to the view across the lagoon, although the lagoon is a mosquito breeder.
Thanks, Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~
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Sandi why do you mention it again? Do something worthwile for a change!
Hi Kip, The Crazy Cactus Car Rental Agency is located in Barra de Navidad. We offer clean dependable cars starting at $460 pesos per day, this price includes all taxes and insurance. We are very sorry to hear that Daphne had such a bad experience. She picked up 2 hitchhikers, that had a dog. Therefore upon returning the car it was full of dog hair, she was charged $100 Pesos or $10 USD for the extra cleaning of the car, so it could be presentable for the next customer. If we can be of any assistance, please let us know. Thanks, Tracye
There used to be a family in San Patricio, on the main street up by the bordellos who makes tile, very reasonable, good quality, and would work with you on what you need. Been about three years since I lived there though, so I am not sure they are still there. You could ask around.
Yep the disco still is there and is as loud as you remember it.gary wrote: > It's been a few years since I've stayed at The Sands in Barra. > There used to be a disco called the Galeon next door. It made > staying at The Sands a bit noisy, especially on the weekends. > Does anyone know if this disco still operates and anything more > about the current condition of The Sands? > > I enjoyed waking up to the view across the lagoon, although the > lagoon is a mosquito breeder. > > Thanks, > > Gary > ~~~~_/) ~~~ > ~~~~~~~~
its nice clean everything you need has 1 room w/ queen bed 1 room w/ 2 twin beds if we need anything for kitchen thats not there we go get it and leave it for the next i think last time all we needed was a water pitcher for the fridge bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla hope this helps , have fun over and out [%sig%]
I would like more info. I'm planning to be in Barra from 3/24-3/29. Would it accomodate a family of five? Rates?
Hi, if you want to buy talavera please go to villas camino del mar they have some. thanks Guillermo
The disco no longer operates as a disco. It has been converted to a classy restaurant called "The Crocodile Lucky". The chef, Raul?? formerly worked at the Grande Bay, and served an Italian buffet one night a week, last year in Melaque. The old disco is now quiet, squeaky clean and low key. On Friday evenings Richard and Dianne sing from 7 til 9. They start with dinner music and progress to jazz and rock& roll. We ate and danced there every Friday evening for 8 weeks in Dec./Jan. with groups of 20 to 30 people. But being mostly in our 50's and 60's we closed the place down about 10 PM. The fantastic food is Italian Buffet on Fridays, but there is also a varied menu at surprisingly low prices, You could get full on the all you can eat salad bar, crisp, fresh and beautifully presented. Definitely the best place in Barra this year, and we visited them all. Hope they find enough business to open again next year. Disco noice is gone. I did not walk around The Sands this year, but thought it was getting seedy last year.
Is Romeo's still open or is it for sale and how much?.........Adios
We stayed there in December - it was fine. Nice people, pool, shaded grass area, etc...The bungalow we had, and the others we saw, each had a double and a single bed in each of two bedrooms. They supply bottled water, the rest of the kitchen outfitting is somewhat rustic, but perfectly adequate, as long as you are not trying to prepare complicated meals (no need for that - when there is plenty of fine food available around town, from awesome taco stands to nice restaurants) .
We would definitely stay there again!
Ricardo, yes I agree with you Ponchos's is a good resaraunt. While in Melaque for the month of Feb. I stopped in there and bought some chicken (pollo assado) Poncho made me feel at home even brought me a Corona (on the house ) and drove me home , it was great chicken. Another time I had a few friends coming over so I stopped in and ordered some chicken , Poncho delivered them right to the place we were staying the Bungalows Laguna del Tule and again great chicken . Looking forward to again going back to Melaue and Poncho's great chicken . Jim Dobinson
Hi Mike..I am not involved with the organization that arranges these trips.The guide..Andy..provided the information in regards to where the profits are going.I am simply taking his word for it.I have no reason to doubt what he said.At 200 pesos per person, it was a great trip.I have no idea as to how one would check their records.If it was a scam...which I thoroughly doubt...they have picked a slow way to get rich.
I would always recommend Bungalos Laguna Del Tule. It is located at the far end of the Barra end of Melaque on the beach, with a good pool and restaurant on site. The owners Fidel& Blanca are easy to deal with and the rates are good. It's clean, safe and an easy 15 minute walk to town. You can also walk the beach to Barra in 30 minutes or so. I think their e-mail is bungalowslagunadeltule@yahoo.com regards Brian
Anyone help on this one?
San Patricio, (St. Patrick, Patron Saint of San Patricio Melaque, Jal.)+* Locals say a great party but I've not experienced it.
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Last year they had it a month early in February...we were there for it and that was the third time I had been there.......it is a sight to behold. We tried to get an answer on this while we were there.....asking locals etc because we left on the 19th of February and were hoping it would be a month early......first we were told it was going to be on but then it didn't happen.......no one seems to know. I would guess that they will be celebrating the 17th March but that there may not be any fireworks in lieu of what happened at Vera Cruz........best to ask a local.
Mike its not a scam Andy is a good guy just helping out the schools in the area and for 200 pesos a great deal!
Romeos is closed and I was told will not reopen and also that it was for sale. Sorry, don't have any listing information.
Just got back yesterday. St. Pat's day will be on the 17th of March for the whole world including Melaque this year. They are back to the normal schedule after a little experiment last year that didn't work out too well.
The weather was great for the 3 weeks we were there. The "Tomzap Party" at Chips was a lot of fun and lots more people this year. (more on that later when Jim and Jerry get home) In spite of some of the comments I have been reading, Melaque/Barra is still a little slice of heaven and hasn't changed very much at all. The food was fantastic, the beer ice cold, the sand hot, and the ocean just right. What else is there??
Regards to all, Connie and Andy (back in Arkansas)
To all those wishing to join the St. Patrick's celebrations in San Patricio Melaque March 8-17 Hotel Club Nautico has lowered their daily rate to $50.00 u/s per day double ocupancy. The weekly rate of $235.00 special still applies. Come to Melaque & join in the fun. Contact terenautico@hotmail.com for reservations
Hi Jakara Bungalows Mayorca has 2 bedrooms (single & double bed in each), full kitchen,a.c. tv. large pool & we are on the ocean. for reservations contact teresmith@hotmail.com [%sig%]
Thanks I have experienced the fireworks before but want to take my wife and son this time. 7 mores days until I can enjoy a nice cold Indio.
Hey Andy and Connie - Glad to hear you made it safely back to Arkansas; that was quite the itinerary you two had! You're right about having had a great time this year ... we'll especially remember the night of the lost bat and Don's repeated (endless?) warnings to take cover. Looking forward to next year already ... leslie and wayne
plan on the whole week for st paddy,s last year they had three nights of fireworks great time might be only one this year sounds like one piece of advice be ready to witness the spectacle you puny human see you there [%sig%]
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Andy and Connie...........Yes Melaque/ Barra is still a slice of heaven even though it has subtly changed with inflation.........a room for 3 in Barra on the beach was at $1.50/nite in 76, though on a later trip we found the hotel had collapsed from an earthquake. Say la vie. Since then we have spent 8-10 month long winters in San Patricio, and having been about everywhere else in Mexico. Melaque is about as good as it gets as well as an occasional adventure.......my wife and daughter were in a bank being held up, we have pulled elderly men out of the surf who were drowning, seen skate stings in the surf, seen 10,000 members of AA for a convention who left about 10,000 empty beer cans on the beach as their 32 buses and additional private cars headed for the conference in Barra. As you know, the stories go on and on and if you go back you will find out more about the magic kingdom. It is rare to see but on two occasions I have seen the sun rise just as a full moon sets over the ridge............while doing my daily presunrise swim up bay. So yes, Melaque is a good place even though purists can carp about the new tiles on the main street. If you ever go back, ask about the skyrocket that set a full block of palapas on fire......just down bay from the trailer park
I have a condo in Colinas de Plata which has two bedrooms, two bath rooms, full kitchen, living and dining room, satellite TV/VCR, swimming pool 25 feet from the door. It is available March 16 afternoon, I have guest which will be leaving that morning. If you are interested please contact me.
Thanks, Craig
Our condo in Colinas de Plata is available for rent anytime after March 16. It has two bedrooms, two bathrooms, full kitchen, dining room, living room with satellite TV/VCR, pool 25 feet from door. For more information please contact me.
Craig
Hello everyone, wanted to see what was going in Barra since I've been there last. I visited last spring after semana santa. Is Piper's open? What happened to Jarro's? I'm coming to stay for a few days in a few weeks. See ya soon! ~Chava
we are looking for a reasonably equipped Condo to rent for Jan & Feb, 2004.
Hi there!, Jar-ro & Piper are still open..., We'll be waiting for you at Alice's Restaurant Cyber Cafe...... See ya soon....
Arriving 3/12; Alaska Air; 4:00 p.m. One person.
Anyone want to share a cab to Barra?
Does anyone know of a similar visitor comment link for the Ixtapa area?
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Hugh, I don't need to ask about the fire, I got pictures. A room in our hotel this year for one person was $12.50 us. That's still very reasonable considering its on the beach and has maid service every day. It's kind of strange but Melaque, San Patricio, Obrigon all change a little bit each year and every time we arrive we feel great because it's always the same?? Can't say the same for Barra though.
Carlos- could you tell me if Lalo is playing at Piper's this month? And is Piper around? What about Chuck? And who is working at Jar-ro's? One more question- what's the disco in Melaque called? The one that Roy owns?
Gracias y nos vemos!
Lalo isn't playing at the moment,,, Piper just came back from the States. "tanga" is the Disco in Melaque, but Roy isn't there any more,,, he owns the Jar-ro and El Galeon in Barra de Navidad, I'm the Roy's Uncle, I was at the Jar-ro last year with the Cyber but now I'm at Alice's Restaurant.... Thanks for your concern... Nos vemos muy pronto........
Gracias, Carlos. Una pregunta mas- the bar in front of that big white hotel (is that finished yet?) la azotea- is that open, too? Thanks for answering, Chava
Is it possible to find a bungalow (with kitchenette) in Melaque for $500 month in late March or early April. For one, possibly two people?
Where did you stay for 12.50? I hope not in the big screen tv box lol.
Hi Geoff, We have a condo in Colinas de Plata which we rent when we are not using it. We will however be using it December until January 18th. It is available after that. It has two bedrooms, two bathrooms, dining and living room, full kitchen, satellite TV, swimming pool 25 feet from the door.
Are you from Barrie, Ontario by any chance?
Thanks, Craig
Hey Michelle, We spent 2 weeks in Zihua last October and stayed at the Hotel Irma. Would recommend the place highly. It has been fully renovated and the rooms are like new. Check in with Jaime at the front desk and tell him to give you a good deal. He also drives a cab and can give you a good tour of the entire area. Tell him Dave and Francie from Colorado said Hola! Zihua is much more laid back than Ixtapa.
Dave
Chava, La Azotea Bar still open, but the Hotel isn't finished yet... Another big hotel is almost finished at the end of this same street.
If you have not already had them delivered, we are leaving from Seattle on March 17th and would be happy to take them down there. If you can get them to the Papa John's pizza in Lacey (College & Pacific) we can pick them up there. Otherwise, what kind of music do they like.....we have tons that we are not using and would be glad to give. Always nice to have friends in new places......Jane & Adam
Jane & Adam Do you have a CD burner? If so I have a power point presentation for the Melaque Delagato (The Mayor). It is to large to put on a floppy or send over the internet. If you are interested in helping please let us know. Thanks Trever Our Site: www.msbyth.com
Try www.mexico-zihuatanejo.com
Luke and Anna are living on saltspring Island with their beautiful daughter, Lara.They are not on-line, however if they need to be contacted, they can be reached at this address.Hope all is well in Melaque.
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Leslie, Please congradulate Luke and Ana on the baby, have not seen or spoken to either of them since I left Melaque, but I adore them both. Also, please tell Ana to pass my e mail address on to her mother. Would love to hear from her! Thanks! Judy fro Restaurant Judy E mail address in locajudy58509332@sbcglobal.net
WANTED 1 big screen tv box will pay 15.00 us for rent during st. patricks day events must have full bar queen size bed and toilet, an empty quart jar will do will only rent if location is acceptable must be willing to move if not deemed appropriate will tip well for excelent service please include a fire extinguisher those rockets come out of nowhere must be able to put out fire if necessary beer must not exceed 40 degrees F or it will be undrinkable contract will be void if said conditions are breeched [%sig%]
Hi Dave. Contact me . email pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com Dentist Eduardo Pimienta Woo
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sorry the first message had an incorrect phone # the correct # is 315-355-7297
Hi Dave I've tried to email you directly but it keeps being returned. Contact me directly and I can help set it up for you. Contact Bob Moody Small Town Adventures Mexico I have lots available.
How can I get the "new" to show up...I like the new feature of the board, but it doesn't happen on my Win2000 PC...
Right after I posted this it showed up...
My wife and I will be in the area from March 17-26th and would be interested in seeing this lot and any other properites for sale. Where can we find you/contact you? Thanks...Adam
Hello Im about to book a week at the hotel san felipe's villa. Anyone stay here before or have any information about this place. It sounds wonderful and great but I just want to make sure. Thanks, Brooke
You can call me at (315)355-7297 early am or late pm....vickie or ask for Dan Baxter at Hotel Dorado in Melaque room # 111 he will be here till the 27th of March.....Vickie
Oh, that hotel they were building across from Casa Chips, right? I hope Barra doesn't look too different! I was wondering if you think it will be busy in Barra next week around wednesday and thursday. I hope that we don't have a problem finding a room. Do you have a recommendation for cheap accomodations? I've stayed in Hotel San Lorenzo and it was nice- just noisy. Is there anywhere else we should check out? Gracias!
Hey, just returned to Vancouver yesterday, very depressing! Had the best vacation, ever, in Barra. Can't wait to go back, and am already trying to plan my next trip. I have a question for all of those familiar with every place I visited, does anyone know Manny (aka Manuel) who works on the Barberena in the Marina? I lost his email on my travels home and am dying to give him a buz! OR, how about any of the guys working in L'Azotea? Arturo maybe? Or Josie Trace? Any help would be great. By the way, I was there with my two crazy girlfriends (they caused the trouble ;), Tiffany and Erin. Later, Kell
Just curious - would love to sell all of my crap here in Vancouver and move to Barra for awhile....what are you looking to rent it for?
on this comments board? If there is someone there that can get ahold of Manny (aka Manuel) S?, I'll be the happiest person around...
While you're at it - if any one could say hi to "Too Short" for me I would be a very happy girl.
Andy and Connie, Gerry and Dee, hey guys I have lost your e mail addresses . Wheen you read this post could you send me your addresses. I have a few pics of the Tomzap get together . Jim
About a month and a half ago I asked this group about local car rental options in Melaque/Barra. Got some mixed feedback concerning Crazy Cactus in Barra about there rental policies. I rented a very nice car from them during my trip, and put lots of miles on it. All I can say is that I had wonderful, helpful service from them at a very fair price. If you are heading to Barra or Melaque, and need a car for a few days and don't want the hassle of running back out to the airport... they are the folks I would strongly recommend. Of course you can get get cheaper prices at the airport, especially if you hunt down the prices before leaving the US/Canada. But if you don't intend to need a car for more than a few days, of a longer stay, this is a better option. I got a little compact, no AC for around $47 per day with no additional charges.
Drove up through Colima and Comala to the Laguna de Maria Resort. This is a beautiful spot about 7 mile from the Volcano del Fuego. It has nice, clean cabins on a lake for around $400p. The owners are great and they wanted to lower the price to about half if we were interested in another night. Incredible views of the Volcano. Kip in Tacoma, WA
They made it!
Thank you all for your responses. I had no idea that so many people would be ready & willing to do this from so nearby. Thanks to "Skip from Tacoma" thay made it within 3 days of my posting! It just shows what a positive effect this site has. Thanks again Skip! Rico
It sounds excellent, but how much does it cost? HHow many are the minimum nights you can stay there, and how many persons are you allowing to enter?
That is "Kip" not "skip".... Actually, it's Cristobál while I'm in Mexico where I belong. I took a few CDs down for Rich's father "Lalo" who is the house band for Piper Lovers in Barra. Those of you from the Seattle/Tacoma area might remember him as the lead guy from Junior Cadilac. If you are ever looking for a great time with some fun dancing tunes, get to Piper Lovers when Lalo is playing!! He also plays at Bigotes in Melaque on Mondays. Most fun these old bones have had on the dance floor in years. Definately a MUST DO while in town. Kip in Tacoma
There are no problem finding a room at this time... How many are you?...., Ages? I rent rooms to surfers, very cheap.
Anybody who wants to burn a CD, Just come to Alice's Restaurant Cyber Cafe in Barra de Navidad and weīll burn it for you for a little cost.
Here's is the Azotea bar's e-mail: azoteabar@hotmail.com
I'm moving to the area this summer and thinking of putting some monies in a mexican bank. Is this unwise? Are the Mexican banks federally insured in any way? I'm moving from the states and would like to think of the move a semi-permanent. If anybody has any information I would greatly appreciate it.
I'll be there next week, Kelly and would gladly find out his email for you. Could you tell me a little bit about the scene right now? is it busy, what bars are fun and such... thanks, chava
Hi Carlos, I don't think my last reply posted so i will try again. Anyway, it's just me and my boyfriend that will be around for 2 or three days next week. We won't be surfing but plan on doing some scuba diving/snorkeling. We're 22 and 28. Do you have a room for 2 and for how much? Thanks! Chava
I keep a small account at Banamex and have funds wired down as needed.
Do you know if it is a risk to keep more than $20K. Do you have a choice of pesos or USD? Thanks
I live in Mexico and maintain a small account in Banamex. I put in dollars and they convert and maintain the account in pesos. You can buy dollars, but pay a premium rate. Also, I believe you have to have at leasts an FM-3 to open an account. Most of my funds remain in the U.S. I wouldn't put a large amount of funds in accounts down here due to the devaluation of the peso. Some foreigners do put funds into Lloyd's and say they get a good return. I believe their nearest office would be in Guadalajara [%sig%] Post Edited (03-12-03 09:52)
It wasn't really busy at all - we didn't have any trouble finding a hotel - none of them seemed busy.The most fun we had was in a bar called L'Azotea and the 'Haro' for pool. The disco was the only 'dance bar' and it was ok - the pubs were more fun, the people we met were great! the Disco was also only open on Saturday. Anyway, have a great time! Thanks for the offer to find Manuel's email :)
Great, thanks!
Erin, I'm sure SOMEONE will say hey for us, we didn't develop that many enemies! I feel so much closer to Barra being on this site...funny, I'm counting the days already till we can head back again :)
Hola! Me llamo Monica. Mi amiga y you queremos visitar Melaque despues de Semana Santa. We are looking for a place to stay from April 21st to May 9th. We are just looking for something basic. Two beds, a fan would be nice. I have never been to Melaque before but the friend I am traveling with has. If anybody knows anything reasonably priced, or that offers a discount for a longer stay, let me know. Gracias
Hola! (again) I was also wondering if anyone had info about whether it gets really quiet in Melaque and Barra after Semana Santa. We will have just spent ten days in Puerto Vallarta when we arrive in Melaque on the 21st, so we won't be needing tons of excitement. But we hope that there will still be a couple bars that we can hang out in. Anyone who has comments please share them with me.
I have just become a Mexican national (born in Guadalajara). What is Lloyd's? I appreciate your info.
My husband and I would like to to stay in or around Melaque for aprox. 4 months, Nov/03-Feb/04. We have a four year old daughter. Any suggestions regarding long-stay accommodations suitable for children would be very helpful. Anyone out there who has children and has traveled to Mexico for a longer stay I would love to hear from you. We want the chance to do this before our daughter starts school in Sep 04.
I was in Barra last year during and after Semana Santa and there were just enough people and just enough going on... We had a great time both times of the year. have fun!
I would just start looking when you get there. Should be able to get a 2 bedroom or large one bedroom apartment for $250-400us if your staying that long. Some places will be closer to local kids and I assume you want her to make friends. Not sure where the young kids hang out except school and around the house ... they don't swarm the streets.
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Stan .. for someone that was recently born in Guad ... you are asking some rather mature questions.
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Hola Monica. Yo tengo dos casas equipadas con todo eso que buscas.Hoy estan ocupadas pero para en Abril estaran disponibles. Te puedo enviar fotos si te interesas. Puedo darte un precio especial. Contactame Dentista Eduardo Pimienta Woo. e-mail pimientaeduardo@hotmail.com
4 months that sounds fun i wish i could go for that long enjoy yourself
Hello Monica. I have 2 houses/apts equiped with all you want. Now they are occupied but in April they are vacant. I'm able to sent pictures if you are interested. I can give you a special price. Contact me Sorry Eduardo ... just practicing. I still know nothing (spanish) [%sig%]
Sparks, He could have lost his Mexican citizenship years ago and only recently reclaimed his nationality through new Mexican policy on dual nationality. You sure jump to conclusions for a sabelotodo.
There will still be a week of Easter vacation the week following Easter Sunday (Semana de Pascua). This year it comes a little late so there won't be as many gringos still hanging around by then. I'm sure there will still be plenty of company in the bars tho.
Erin Cambell writes: "While you're at it - if any one could say hi to "Too Short" for me I would be a very happy girl." As in Too Short the doggy? Give him a big head scratch and treat for me too. Originally I thought people were calling him "Chucho" as in Spanish for "puppy". Then I thought he was named after the Oakland CA Gangsta rapper of the late 80's. Finally, somebody explained the origin of his name. Poor pup, it sounds like he's the last of his genetic line......
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Does anyone have a mailing address for either L'Azotea or Piper's?
The BEST bars are open all year!
Sparks, de nada Ągüey!
hi. ricardo i.m very happy for your visotor comment.
I recently have a cyberg open 24 hrs. you need to cheker out next time you back.
Remember the picture that I took when ricardo amor was singing. ok. I have it in my computer but I learning how to attached.
Thank you ricardo amor. lupita say hi. from the bus station.
cinceramente alfonso morales
When I was there you treated me very well and I will allways try to tell people that are going to Melaque to stop in your placw and have something to drink or eat. I will allso put on the internet for people to see and visit you.
When I was there you treated me very well and I will allways try to tell people that are going to Melaque to stop in your place and have something to drink or eat. I will allso put on the internet for people to see and visit you. TELL Lupita I think of her every day and will send her the picture we took together, also tell her I will write a nice note to her.
RICARDO AMOR
Hi, Check out www.piperlover.com
I tried that but it doesn't list the address. Hopefully Piper will respond to the email I sent him.
Thanks for your help.
I am looking for a place to stay from approx. March 31st thru April 5th. Is it available then and what are your rates?
Peggy Hart Juneau, Alaska
Sparks. Gracias por la traduccion, pero creo que tu ya sabes mucho espanol. Estoy esperando que pongas mas fotos de la zona en este web site. No tienes nada del carnaval de Barra de Navidad? Saludos para ti. Eduardo
Sandi, if quiet is what your looking for why don't you go to another site. I cannot recall when you have had any positive posts on tomzap, if you have a problem with Bob why don't you jump on a plane and ask around Melaque where you can find him because he is there as we speak and I'm sure he would be pleased to show you around the area as I don't belive that you have ever been there. kindest regards Pierre
Tell Lupita that Judy of the old Restaurant Judy says hello! Would love to corespond if she has an e mail address!
Is it available the second half of April? Can you give more information (and pictures) on your condo?
pls send info and rates on the condo. It's beachfront?
We stayed at Bungalows Mayorca for the month of Feb..It was our 3rd year there...we have always done our bookings through Ray and Tere and they have been most accomodating and helpful. They are always available to answer any questions you may have and advise you on such. The popularity of this place is partly due to their absolute interest in the town of Melaque. The rooms are adequate, the cleaning staff is friendly, and the yard is immaculately groomed. The pool is well maintained and during Jan. & Feb. you will find many West Coast people there. The same people have been returning for some years now. So that tells you something about Mayorca... may it continue to be a pleasant spot for a vacation.
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Hello all, I was wondering if someone could tell me how long it would take to drive to Barra from Puerto Vallarta. The guidebooks say that it would be a 3 1/2 first class bus ride. Is that about right? Thanks and see ya soon!!!
Ditto- I would also like more information.
The bus takes between 3.5 and 4 hrs. I would give yourself 4 hours.
anyone have any good/bad experiences with hotel buenos aires in barra?
I came back from Melaque, (right next to Barra) on the new Chiutatlan(SP?) plus line. it was a very, very nice bus. Highly recommend them or Primera plus. it took about 3.5 hours from Melaque to old Vallarta. another half hour to the bus station.
Takes a good 4 hours if you don't and shouldn't, drive like a bus driver. + lots to see all along the way
Hola. In the past I have headed to D.F. for Semana Santa.This Year my friend Lisa and are flying into ZLO on 4-9 and fly out on 4-16. I want to head to Melaque. We were going to reserve a room for the first night and then look at other places. If we don't book for a week are we going to be stuck? We are low, low budget travelers, who like quaint places. Any suggestions and ideas of nice places to stay are really apprecaited. A phone # and an e-mail address a plus. Me puedo hablar espanol tambien. Gracias a Todos, Gina Who can tell me how you add accents on the keyboard. I just use this thing by intuition. Adios.
Hola, On the messageboard for Guayabitos there was a recent message with this webpage on it for adding Spanish accents. Hope this helps you.
http://www.lingolex.com/spanishascii.htm
pipers street address is pipers bar--lopez de legaspi # 154-a zone centro-- Barra de Navidad, Jal. Mexico.--C.P. 48987 adios, Dave
Coming to Bara - 18th, for a week to ten days...winging it... I have a broken leg, and don't want to walk much. Looking for a reasonably priced hotel close to the beach, a good resteraunt, and a good bar...all close to one another. Help ! Thanks...
Oh that's too bad- but Barra is so small that it won't be that much walking. I have stayed at Casa Chips- you could ask for one of the rooms on the bottom floor and then you just walk around to their restaurant and bar. I can't remember exactly what we payed- there are more reasonable places away from the beach but Chips is right on the ocean. Just a block away or so are more bars like Piper's and L'Azotea (but you need to go upstairs for that one). Good luck and maybe we'll see each other there! I can't wait to go!!! Chava
How much is the bus ride from PV to Barra and where do you catch the bus?
Thanks a bunch!
Azotea Bar e-mail address: azoteabar@hotmail.com Piper Lovers e-mail address: piperlover@hotmail.com <http:www.go.to/barradenavidad> <http://www.go.to/piperlovers> we're located at Alice's Restaurant in Barra de Navidad Cyber Cafe, open and friendly place....
Come to Alice's Restaurant and we'll see what can do for you.... Cyber cafe, open and friendly place to stay
one is available,,, the price?.... just 150 pesos a night, or, if you stay more than 3 nights... only 100 pesos a night. one bed for two, restroom, shower (regular water, not hot), internet access discount, close to the beach and bars.
On this site, go to: Home/main index/ special characters.
Does Lalo play year round at Piper Lovers in Barra, how often does he play there?
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Sorry, we don't have a CD burner. We leave Monday so if there's anything else....let us know. Jane & Adam
What do you consider to be the off season?
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"Off season" along the Costalegre extends from about mid-April to mid-November, when all the tourists and winter residents are gone.
Do all of the restaurants and bars stay open year round??
Beautiful new little hotel finished last year. Great location, but sorry, no idea of rates. Lots of empty hotels in Barra, so availability should be no problem. Hopefully the owners will respond for you.
Yes, all of them... Alices's Restaurant Cyber Cafe., Barra de Navidad, Jalisco
I love Barra and Melaque but have been there six times and was wondering what other small towns people had visited that they liked.
I am looking for someplace a little smaller than Melaque. Any recommendations of other places to try. Thanks
Can we assume you've tried La Manzanilla? Cristobál
Where do the locals buy bicycles in the area? Melaque/Manzanillo. Barb
We've been to Melaque once and to Rincon de Guayabitos twice. It's about 1/4 the size of Melaque and has the same safe feeling. The locals are very friendly there, just like in Melaque. It's about a one hour drive north of Puerto Vallarta.
There are two two bicycle shops (1 repairs, the other sells) in San Patricio. They are just south of the main plaza... near Taco Surf. You can also rent from Ray for about $60 pesos per day (ask at Bananarama). We recently took a bicycle down with us on our trip through Alaska Air. We had an older garage sale bike, and AA charged $50 extra. My wife was there for a month, so it was worth it. The dirt roads out east into the farmlands towards Jaluco and beyond are a wonderful ride. Cristobál
THE SILENCE -SO NICE TO SEE
melaque is a nice place , full of experts as they call themselves , and some are well informed , and all wanting to be noticed on this board of messages, be it so--but for those that read these messages ,----- just go there and have fun and meet the people and don't be swayed by these persons that wish to ruin the idea of your holiday or mingling with the people of the area , believe me the locals will assit you in all matters and for no-charge---- they want you to feel comfortable, and make it a positive stay while you are there .-be of your wits though, as there are bad apples no matter where you go ----------take it in stride and have the experience of a life time when there .
Rod as we all see, you are right! You just want to see your name on this post! Why do you bring back bad subjects?
Get off and stay off!
BOB
We are trying for a trip to Barra de Navidad in the middle of April and would appreciate coments on the weather condidition we can expect.
CAN'T UNDERSTAND NORMAL THINKING--sandy
Actually I miss Bob but I`m sure he enjoyed being there more than living it on this message board. He`s home and I`m back in Mex.
Thanks, have been to La Manzanilla. Good ideas. Anywhere else, folks?
Hi. I will once again have the joy of returning to visit the Melaque area. I will be arriving about 3 pm on Sat, April 5th at about 3pm at Manzanillo airport. Does anyone want to share a cab to San Patricio/Melaque?
ME:---NO NAME ----read what i said here above , factual ,your last two comment belittle you, maybe some day you will grow up and make something of that simple mind you carry with you on the upper portion of your shoulders ------for your answer i will see my name here on the post -GROW UP AND GET A LIFE NO NAME ,
We met in Barra 95-98 not sure of year exactly, I was with a blonde gringo ( Darryl ) . Met you in you in Vancouver a couple years later.You drove us back to Puerto Vallarta on our way home. We had new years dinner with Ziggy. You helped me shorten my dress. I'm embarrassed I cant remember your last name :(. Me and Rod (my new guy) are planning a trip to Barra in Oct- Nov for a month, and would like to get a hold of you.
Anyone else knowing Nancy ( Long strawberry blonde hair) "canadian" leave us a message please.
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gee bill great attitude.. yes we are like brother/sister but what's the old saying YOU CAN'T PICK YOUR FAMILY... NOW CAN YOU....... HMMMM
Deb I have been reading another board on pacific coast travel and one of the board members has been writing a trip report about Chacala (a little place north of PV and just south of San Blas) Sounds like a really neat place to try. They do have a web site for the city as it is growing fast. I think it would be a great place to try for a few days! Very small and isolated. Maybe what Melaque was like a number of years ago! cheers bobbi
Hola! I posted a message on this site recently about accommodation in Melaque after Semana Santa. I have gotten some nice replies from people but still haven't found anything. Maybe if I give a bit more specific information someone can help me. We will be arriving on the 22nd or 23rd of April. It will be me and one other friend. We are looking for something very cheap (preferably under $20 US per night for a double), as we are staying approx. 2 1/2 weeks. We've realized that the less money we spend on accommodation, the more fun we can have while we are awake. We don't care if the place is pretty, hot water would be nice but not necessary, we don't mind noise, all we are looking for is a secure place to store our belongings and a couple of beds to crash on. If you know of anyplace that can provide this, I would be very grateful. Oh, and we would also like to know about reservations and whether we need to make any. Thank you to everyone who replied to my first message and hopefully you can help me again. Hasta Luego! Monica y Jasmine.
yes, it is beachfont. you can view pictures and rates on this website. it is under hotels. it is the CAsa De LAs OLas.
Hola again! I am having so much fun using this message board that I am going to write some more. I was wondering if anyone on thi board surfs? Do you know what the waves are like in Barra & Melaque. I am only a beginner so I don't need anything too crazy. I would also need a place to rent a board. I've heard that crazy cactus in Barra rents them but I think it closes in the off season. Which is when we are going to be there. Any suggestions??
Yet another question. I want to hear from any one on a tight budget that has been to Melaque and Barra. What did you do for food. I am a vegetarian and I heard that there is a good market so I was planning on eating a lot of fresh fruit and veggies. Anyone know of any restaurants or taco stands that serve cheap vegetarian food. Are there many grocery stores? Let me know...........
Hey it's Monica, I just wanted to ad something to my posting. I was researching accommodation and I came up with some hotel and hostel names. I am just going to list them in no particular order and if you know anything about any of them, good or bad, please reply. Two hostels we found were Casa de Huespedes "Mama Laya", and Posada Rosy. The rest are: Hotel San Patricio, Hotel San Nicolas, Hotel Oasis de Mayorca, Hotel y Restaurant Las Palmas, Hotel de la Costa, Hotel la Colmena, Hotel Kosonoy, Hotel Hidalgo, Hotel Monterrey, Hotel Centenario, Hotel Bahia. Recognize any of these??
I was wondering where the best places to go out and have some drinks are. Are there many places with pool tables and cheap drinks? And what about discos? Is there a party scene for young people in Melaque/Barra?
The Jar-ro Video-Bar in Barra de Navidad has poll tables, live music, giant screen, etc... The owner? ROY Located by the Lagoon, next to the Club de Lancheros. To Check your e-mail? Come to Alice's Restaurant... Open and friendly place...ask for Carlos Open from 8:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. 7 days a Week.
You will be fine, there are more stores now thatn there use to be. you will not go hungry. Most street vendorrs serve things with just cheese and beans alson. There is even a sushi place in town that has great Vege tempura.
Hey Monica- finding accomadation during semana santa is next to impossible- and difficult to reserve at the cheaper places..however i have been going to barra/melaque for years and love the posada pacifico (about 18 dollars us a night) and the caribe (the same) both in barra- both clean and lovely with hot water. not all that quiet but hey- who needs sleep...good luck and have a blast....
Crazy Cactus has the only surfboards in town. The surfing is only right near the jetty. (Everywhere else the waves crest at the shoreline). You can rent for a 1/2 day or full day. It was 130 pesos for a full day. My boys both learned to surf right there, and had a blast. It is an excellent place to learn. When the waves are good, there are bound to be more experienced people out there who can help you. Be prepared for a lot of hard work though - TONS of paddling is involved!
Email Tracey at Crazy Cactus to find out when they close down. I thought it was only for a few months in the summer. I would think they will still be open, as long as their are visitors in the area :).
hey rooster, thanks for your web site, it brings much info and lots of interesting pictures. i will go to your site as much as i can. it is very well laid out.
rooster Your page doesn't load all the way and this isn't the fist time that this has happen--just thought I'd let u know
We had a great time at L'Azotea. Good music, pool table, the people who know where the party will be, will be at L'Azotea first for a warm up. Watch out for premium liquor prices, but the beer is cheap.
Hey Sparks, trust you are enjoying your working holiday, Spanish lessons et al. Talk when you get back. We had a great time in Melaque! Bob
Sandi, your comments and posts are without any substance or foundation, you are merely trying to create some controversy so as to attract some attention to yourself. Get a life! Go to Mexico, enjoy it, and take Roger with you. When you have been there write a trip report! Saludos Bob
Bill as a Canadian who has a lot of American and Mexican friends, I am just glad that your not one of them . That statement you made gets thing going but it's a load of crap. But hey everyone is entitled to their opinion . Jim [%sig%]
We would like to comment on the accredited restaurant know to locals simply as ' The Maya' in Melaque, Jalisco. Being past customers we would like to raise some concerns that we and others have voiced regarding the conduct of the management. Although the food was well presented, it was steeply priced by Mexican standards. I found our dining experience was tainted by the disrespectful treatment of the staff, specifically by the owner/manager, Anne Manning. I found her to be particularily rude to her waiters, making a scene in front of customers to dicipline them. This is not professionalism and really, who wants that kind of atmosphere when you are on vacation? Although the prices were on par with North American gourmet dining, on a brief inquiry to back up the rumors we had heard previously, we found that the staff was paid a pittance bordering on exploitation, the hourly wage of 7 pesos, which is just over 1$ Canadian. A 15% gratuity was expected from the customers, yet upon asking our waiter what he grossed from his tips, he informed me that they were pooled and that the management would not disclose the amount that was brought in nightly. We are talking here about a meal that cost my husband and I approximately 450 pesos/70$CND, not including our gratuity. I ask, can they not afford to pay their staff more reasonably? Our final comment is of a more serious matter, my husband sat at the bar with another gentleman, who we had met earlier in the week. My husband, a retired police officer, was very disturbed to see that the bartender was very high, and I'm not talking marijuana. One might think to see this kind of conduct at a nightclub for youth but not at an establishment that caters to upper class vacationers. I ask Restaurant Maya, what kind of operation are you running there?
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Hey Bob 110% I'm here already!!! Been here before you even knew this place existed and will be here long after you are gone.
Maybe they pay such a pittance to the locals so they can pay MORE to the foreign workers they bring down each year.
How safe is it for a couple to drive down to Barra from Nuevo Laredo? We have stayed downed there once before but we would like to drive this time. Also, how much should we expect to pay in tolls? If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
Monica -- Piratas, the fruit and veggie market a street south of the main street into Melaque, and Hawaii Market, on the main street, offer an excellent selection of fresh produce. Just be sure to purify all produce before you eat it in a solution of regular water and Bacdyn or Microdyn, usually available at both places. I think the directions say 8 drops per liter of water for 15 or 20 minutes. This supposedly eliminates pesticide residue and whatever other unsavory contaminants with which the produce has come into contact. In-season produce is VERY reasonably priced. Enjoy!
Roger, your answers are very prejudicial. It is obvious you don't like foreigners, especially those that operate businesses in Mexico. I agree that the operation doesn't seem fair to their help, but your answer was just an attack NOT based on facts. Foreigners coming to Mexico to work, need to get the approval of the Mexican government and pay for that work permit.
Wife wanted to go to someplace to dress up. The night that we dined there Maya's wasn't very busy when we arrived, 4- 6 couples. We had the beach table with nice view of the sunset over the bay. I enjoyed the presentation & I very much liked the expensive pepper martini's, but I do agree with most of what the Jenkins state. Service was VERY BAD! We had 7:00 reservations, were seated, 7:20 we get first round of drinks(after I complained to Anne). Just after 8:00 we place our order which arrives after 9pm!. I had to chase people down to get our first drink and more drinks while were waiting. My review.... Atmosphere: *** Presentation: **** Service: * Taste: **** Price: ** Overall value: ** The place that I enjoyed the most in Melaque had to be La Terraza. Food was great the waiter was a HOOT. Everyone there made for a enjoyable and not terribly expensive dining experience. Thanks Guys!
Fly and rent. Something that I found out the hard way is unleaded fuel can be hard to come by in Mexico. The leaded fuel will play havoc on US pollution devices and burn out your exaust system.
Just don't plan on getting to close to the volcano, it's off limits.
Roger, I believe that your comment is unfair and unjustified. As a full time resident of Melaque I tend to be fairly in tune with the happenings in this small town. I know for a fact that the foreign workers at the Maya are expected to pay for their own working permit which costs nearly 2000 pesos or 300$ Canadian. They are NOT paid any more than the Mexicans that they work with although they have this fee to pay. Often the cost of living is higher for them as they are unable to get local prices on accomadation and pay tourist prices monthly, although they are in truth locals, making not much more than the fellow who serves you tacos on the street. So Roger, I would definetely try to back up your statements with some form of fact before lashing out at the foreign workers struggling to get by. My son worked for a winter season down in Peurto Escondido and these are the hardships that he was faced with. Where are your facts?
Hi every one!, When you come to this area (Barra de Navidad & Melaque), don't forget to visit Alice's Restaurant Cyber Cafe in Barra de Navidad... We have for you FREE full Internet Access on your first visit,,,, just print this add and show it to me. Alice's Restaurant Internet Cafe,,, Open and friendly place to check your e-mail. PRINTER, SCANNER, CD BURNER and HELP available... You also can access from your Laptop. We're Open from 8: A.M. to 10 P.M. 7 Days a Week.
SEE YOU SOON!!!!! You can get,,, anything you want... at Alice's restaurant Any comments? E-mail me,, or post them here rooms available for surfers Bathroom, bed for two, fan and Internet Access (very low price) We're located at Miguel Lopez de Legazpi & Yucata Street just in front of Sea Master Cafe The beach is just in front of us, bars & restaurants? we are in the center
If you're a full time resident why are you posting from Canada?
Fact: A work permit costs around 1500 pesos not 2000 and who cares what it is in Canadian. ( Why do Canadians always have to mention what everything costs in their currency? This isn't Canada) Foreign workers struggling to get by? Cry me a river. Why the hell they come to work here then? What about the locals who struggle all their lives to get by without the luxury of being able to fall back on all of the opportunities that life in Canada affords them? The foreigners just want to spend a few months in the sun and subsidize it by taking a job from a local.
They have to pay tourist prices for lodging. Wow dude, that is true hardship. They ain't locals and no one is forcing them to come here to work. Get real.
Hola, Carlos! I was wondering how much it costs for a room for two people? Email me at vic_chick22@hotmail.com
Last year we drove the same route you are asking about, took the toll roads every time they were available, and did it in 1 and 3/4 days from the border. The tolls are expensive, but worth it if you are more interested in making time rather than seeing the sights.
We flew this year just because of the prices of airline tickets. $700.00 a ticket was our break even point and we got to Manzanillo for under $600.00 us. Would have driven if the tickets hadn't come down to a reasonable price.
The drive last year was fun but it took 6 days from our beach time. (thats important since that is Beer Drinking Beach Time) Bottom line, I'd crawl there if I had to.
Andy
Clinta, Pemex no longer sells leaded gasoline (Nova) and hasn't since 1997. Only Magna and Premium, both unleaded, are offered at the pumps.
Andy, how expensive are you talking for the toll roads? More than $200? Is safety an issue at all? Thanks!
Donīt be frightened my friend. We only have unleaded gas and we love gringos very much.Approx. tolls 150$ US
The prices are to steep, the service is b a d , the food is good.
Wow this is GREAT! Anne and Peg do a great job of offering something different dining wise on the beach in Melaque. And as to pricess Iīm not sure where you eat your North. American gourmet food but it ainīt in the USA. 450 pesos wonīt pay a tip in most cities in the USA.Your accusations of the waiters being underpayed,have you any idea what the minimum dailey wage is in Mexico? I didīnt think so. Oh yea and waiters on drugs if your hubby is a cop you must realize that what you stated is pure hearsay,slander, conjecture whatever, This post sounds petty and vindictive. Now Jack, What kind of idiot goes to Mexico and expects to make $$ I guess its your son. Make your $$ at home and go to Mexico to spend it. Pretty basic!!
As a full time resident, is it not concievable to reside elsewhere as well? I didn't really intend to get in a pissing match with anyone about my comments. This is a country where freedom of speech is not a crime. It was just my opinion, nothing more. In my earlier reply to your message I was trying to help you to understand that the few foreign workers in Mexico are NOT responsible for the poor wages of the people and that foreign opportunists are. It is tourism, not excluding the food and beverage industry, that adversly alters the course of a country indefinitely. To think that you can visit a pristine, underdeveloped country or even a small village and not cause effect, you would have to be ignorant. Yes, we all know that the world is full of ignorant people. Business owners who have good ethics and morals, should know that their presence will have repercussions on the lifestyle of the locals. If being sensitive to the situation, they would not reap from the benefits of cheap labour. Is it not fair to provide the same financial opportunities to the indigenous people? We as North Americans, bring a higher standard of living that did not exist before, thus increasing the cost of living for the local people. While establishments are running at high, nearly North American rates, can they not afford to pay their staff, regardless of their nationality, a more reasonable wage? Would this not allow everyone to share in the same, equal opportunities which has been brought by tourism? Many people throughout the world choose to seek opportunity somewhere other than their homeland, do you really hold this against them Roger? A more worldy man would understand and perhaps even admire these peoples initiative. I know that the plight of Mexico is not extreme in any sense of the word. I know that many other countries are struggling under worse exploitation and greedy seekers of fortune. But let's not touch on that just yet Roger, why don't you start with looking up eco-tourism? (Equal opportunities for everyone)
Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada!!!!!!!!!
Can't we all just get along!
Eat where you want, who cares! If it's too expensive for your wallet, then move on!
Average daily wage in Mexico city 42.8 pesos!
Both the Canadian peso and Mexican peso are similar in that they are both worthless outside of each others borders!
Canadians--American gringo's: When vacationing in Mexico tip well so at least you know the waiter is getting something for his effort, I do!!!
Well I would like to comment on the Maya, I have eaten there and I walked out of there very pleased. I met everyone in there and the service couldnt have been better. I met everyone there and Peg and Anne were very friendly. The food was excellent for the price. For 90 pesos. The meal was wonderful. As for the person behind the bar being Hi ! Well you shouldnt make those kind of statements. I know alot of the guys there and its none of your business what they do anyway, its Mexico. Who cares what they are doing.
CHEERS TO MAYA!!!!
I will eat there again.
ROOSTER Our site: www.msbyth.com
Bob ... hey school is great and the area interesting ... 7200ft and chilly. Not typical Mexico. Plenty fotos and stories I hope.
Roger ... this is 110% Bob ... not 10% Bob
Bill what do you mean my page dont load up, can you be more specific on the page you are talking about. I am a weekend page builder and this is the first time I was told of this problem. Thank You Rooster www.msbyth.com
Do you know Nancys Husbands name? Could it be Gary Rooster www.msbyth.com
Re:USA/Canada relations No time to elaborate,so a list: gun culture xenophobes self-important culturally insensitive politically incorrect only care about USA lousy foreign policy rude and obnoxious the big one - IRAQ
Jack, That is the biggest crock of **** I've heard in a long time.
Jimmy I'm sorry you have to qualify yourself by saying you have lots of Mexican and american friends--Your problably of the age when you liberals thought that was the thing to say about blacks-- so you could ease your guilt thanks for the insight
Ain't that what it says in my message Sparky?
Barb & Frank Jenkins writes: "....Although the prices were on par with North American gourmet dining, on a brief inquiry to back up the rumors we had heard previously, we found that the staff was paid a pittance bordering on exploitation, the hourly wage of 7 pesos, which is just over 1$ Canadian....." I can't comment on any observed behavior of restaurant management towards staff, nor to any perceived drug use. For your reference, however, as authorized by Articulo 570 of the Ley Federal del Trabajo, the National Commission of Minimum Wages establishes minimum wages for various job categories each year, set on a geographical basis. Melaque, Jalisco falls into Zone C for which: Job Code 11, Cocinero(a), mayor(a) en restaurantes, fondas y demás establecimientos de preparación y venta de alimentos have to be paid a minimum of $59.50 MXP per day.
Job Code 7, Cantinero preparador de bebidas have to be a minimum of $53.30 MXP per day (regardless as to appearance, drug addled or not).
Unclassified workers, which would include waiters and waitresses have to be paid a minimum of $40.30 MXP per day.
Amazing as it may seem to you or me, at $7 MXP per hour for the standard 10 hour shift, a waiter would actually be being paid approximately 74% above minimum wage.
Sparks, sounds like it's too cool at 7200ft, need blankets at that altitude. Study hard my man, I think I know some one else who spent three weeks or so where you are taking an spanish immersion course. We have a bunch of photos from Melaque and Lamanz. I will scan and e-mail to you. Regards Bob
Hey Bob from BC, Do you live in BC or Mexico? If you are in Barra next week,we can't wait to meet ya!! Andrea from BC
Bill, I could comment , but shoudn't you be in bed . It's past 9:00 oclock.
Jimmy Just take care of yourself,don't worry about other people's bed time,with your mentality,that's all you can handle-- I think your maxed out--lol Please let me know if you need help--I can recommend a few government organizations to help you, after all don't most of you canadians think that your government should do EVERYTHING for it's people???????????????????????
ET, Where did you come up with 10 hours as a standard shift. It's an 8 hour shift. Plus very few if anyone in this area works for minimum wage. Are they paying their IMSS obligations on ALL employees?
Well, isn't this fun! We've been staying just down the beach from Maya in February for the past 6 years. At first. Maya went through some teething problems with staff etc. which is only to be expected. More recently and particularly this year, we found that the service and food were excellent. Prices are higher than the norm however what is served, how it is served and the ambience make up for this price level. As for the bartender being "high" - that sort of comment is risky business to say the least. We've known the night time person for a long while and have never perceived a problem. Certainly the service level has never faltered.
Bill, Ciao
Check the travel forum at Mexico Connect. Even though it is a pay web site, they allow you to view the forums for free. There is currently a detailed report on driving from Laredo to Guadalajara. Listing all the tolls. It was originally posted in 2002, so there has been a small increase on all tolls this year. Once you reach Guadalajara, you can take the libre right to Melaque or continue on the toll road to Manzanillo. If you take the toll road there will probably be an additional 175 to 250 pesos in tolls. They have several forums at this site and this is on the Travel Forum. http://www.mexconnect.com
Sorry Rooster have no idea, Nancy was single when I met her. She was spending half her time in Barra and half at home in Vancouver .
Thx Deb.
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Very well said Jack.
The Jenkins should be ashamed of themselves to put such a complaint on the Internet. It is really too bad that some people try to trash businesses this way.
Stay home with your police husband Barb!!!
Ramon's estimate of $150 us for tolls (both ways) is about right. There is a little safety issue as there is much less traffic on the toll roads and better maintained so its got to be safer to drive. Also much less likely to encounter free range cattle, though I did nail a couple of roadrunners last year.
Saltillo to Zacatacus (sp) is a bear. Be very cautious, narrow with potholes and nowhere to dodge them. There are ways around that stretch of road and next tme we drive we will use them even if it adds a half a day.
I have to quit now, my tan is going away and I'm getting depressed. Andy
Not sure that we're talking about the same thing here, ET. I was referring to a person.
I drove back Feb.1. It takes less that 2 days. We really speed and I think we were in the vehicle for 13 hours. The tolls one way came to $75.00 US. Gas is fine and plenty of stations, more expensive than in the States.. Remember that you have to purchase Mexican car insurance..For the two of us flying is cheaper. I have also driven all the free roads, other years when we have taken time to be tourists. The twists and turns and no passing areas require a patience and make the toll roads so worth it. We've always felt safe. We don't drive after dark. Get good instructions to get around Guadalajara and carry enough pesos. You'll be fine and later you'll wonder why you were concerned.
If the original poster is still interested in why relations between Canada and the US are strained these two articles might help.
Brothers in arms no more By DOUGLAS FISHER -- Sun Ottawa Bureau http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/dfisher.html Canada betrays traditional allies By PETER WORTHINGTON -- Toronto Sun http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/worthington.html Gotta roll, Henry
Folks, is it just the tension of living in the 21 st. century or what? What used to be an enjoyable site to visit has turned into a shoddy, bitchy, shameful rendering of crap. Some of your comments are so petty, can one not express their thoughts without getting jumped by a bunch of bigots.... Someone must regulate these ridicules character assasinations and the like. Shame shame shame! We should try harder to at least be constructive please, regards Brian ( I used to like this site but come on folks)
I have to agree with Brian above. The complaining is getting out of control. It reminds me of my 7 & 4 year old kids. Just relax Open a cold Pacifico and turn up the music Jeff
Thanks everyone, we'll be down in May.
Hi Carlos, This is very generous of you. Thank you for this invitation. I will not be back to Barra until December. Will you honor this in December?
Thanks, Craig
Just wondering-I know it's been slow for a number of years but things can change with the currents-any recent info?
This has been the best dorado season (oct. thru feb.) in years but its dead now and very windy.
I usually only eat Chinese food in San Francisco or China. But I heard good comments about China Restaurant on Mazatlan, near Posada Pacifico.
It's run by a Chinese, who was a cook in a town outside of Beijing. He cooks in the Szechuan and Mandarin styles. Him name is "Tommi". The food is spicey, but not hot.
I had the "Gambos de Camerone" and wanted to eat all my meals there for the rest of my stay. However, China was not open again until the day I left. I watched this cook standing alone in the center of this tiny, very tiny restaurant as my cab rode by and I pondered getting some of his food "to go".
It was, perhaps, the best Chinese food, I've ever had.
Hint...Hint...Don't expect sweet and sour Pu Pu Platters!
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We feel compelled to respond only to correct some of the misinformation printed here.........
-----none of our waiters are receiving 7 pesos per hour, in fact their wages work out at more than double received in most local restaurants ----the tips are recorded in the staff log-in book and are counted with an employee present ----our key local staff have been with us since we opened the restaurant( curious as the inference is that they are poorly treated) ----the comment about our bartender is, as one writer posted, slanderous and unfounded To those of you that experienced poor service-----our apologies To those of you that support us-------we thank-you
Having enjoyed several meals (lunch and dinner) at Maya in the last couple of years have to make a few of comments. First, what Maya brings to the area is a real asset - people come to Melaque to eat at Maya who would never come into the town at all - benefit I would say - they may like what they see there - possibly to stay at another time. Second, Maya spent many dollars (pesos) building their establishment and continue to spend on local produce, seafood, etc. etc. Third, they are employing locals at a what appears to be a decent wage, tips I believe are pretty good which I am sure all staff benefit from. I have also never noticed any abuse of staff at all - really don't know where that comment comes from. On several occasions when we have left Maya a little bit late - many of the staff are sitting down together enjoying a fine Maya meal. As an aside - we also love to eat at local 'Mexican' establishments, taco stands, etc.and also occasionally prepare our own meals. Once in awhile we treat ourselves to something a bit special such as 'Maya' but we don't eat there every day of the week - and I really don't think they are taking anything away from the local establishments, but merely are adding a bit of diversity to the area. And, where in the hell in the US or Canada can you have a really fine meal for two for about $50.00 including wine? That's it.
Hi Deb!!!! Good to hear from you! I tried to reply here before but it didn't post. I've sent an email to your direct address as well. I'm still here but I cut off my hair so it's not long anymore and I'm here full time now but just returned yesterday from two cold wet weeks in Vancouver, yick! Nan
to the Jenkins, I trust you are satisfied with restaurant bashing. Now let's consider your tab for dinner at the Maya. You said your bill was 70$ canadian, let's forget about US / canuck dollars, my experience is an entre at Maya is in the range of around $11, so the two of you might have had a nice dinner for around $22 , so that leaves a lot of room for tinis and wine, maybe your ex=cop husband spent a litle too much time sitting at the bar after dinner. So the point here is do the math, $70-20=$50, is this the amount you spent on booze at the table or was it more siting at the bar doing surveys on what you really have no business sticking your nose into!
Maybe some of what the Jenkins wrote wasn't accurate, but this was their perception and experience. The inaccuracies have been corrected and that is good, but why can't they write and complain about what happened to them? Is this site only for good news? We all know that any restaurant can have a bad night, and I imagine that is what happened. But if I had any negative stories about anything to share, I would hold back. What use is that for a website set up to capture people's ideas, experiences and impressions? Maybe there is a lot of negative commenting on this site lately, but mostly it is bickering back and forth between people who seem to do it for sport. IMO these people came on to express an honest opinion and have been shot down.
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Deb, you have a point, good one , but mis information, along with slander posted is not acceptable to any of us, please understand that there are a large (kazzillioin) of us on this site who spend a lot of time in the costalegre, we do contribute to the area in general(Roger will be all over my case on that one) Hi Roger! bob
Can anyone tell us anything about the friends of Melaque? I have been trying to contact them. Thanks Rooster www.msbyth.com "live chat"
Okay so the last part about the bartender may be iffy, but the rest is what they experienced and what the staff told them. What are they supposed to do, not believe what happened to them and what the staff told them? I know many of you spend a lot more time there than I have but it doesn't discount their experience. I used to come here to get information before the site was hijacked with so many people with their own agendas. Anyhow that is my 2 bits, it doesn't matter much except I think these people were rather put upon for expressing their ideas.
I dont post very often anymore as it seems as thou to many of us take these post way to seriously, they are suppose to be informative ( PERIOD!!! ) If somebody like a place fine and if somebody doesnt fine get on with life and quit bitching or bragging about somebody elses idea of what should be happening, I hope you all get my drift and use this board only as a info site and comment page from your experences in Barra and melaque. P.S. I have been going down to that region for the last 15 years for a couple months each time, and believe it or not have always had a good time, one thing just remember where you are at, Adios!
Dave , well said . Sometimes I get caught up in this bitching and after posting my post am sorry that I did . I agree with you even though I have been going down there for only 4 years , I found the perfect place to holiday and certainly would defend anyone who calls it down . Melaque and Barra are little pieces of heaven. Jim
Yes, Deb. But they weren't put upon for using the term "upper class vacationer", so that speaks well for tolerance on this website, I'd say.
I went to Melaque during Christmas and loved it. want to return. The hotel I stayed in didn't have AC. It was a great place and was fine during Christmas. I noticed a lot of the hotels in Melaque don't offer AC. Has someone stayed at a hotel in June with out airconditioning in Melaque. How was it? What is the weather like in June (temp, how much rain, etc. thanks in advance...
I stayed during the Chistmas week and had a great time. The owners are great , as well as the fella that is helping them with the place (Mike). I came down by myself and they made me feel like I was part of their family. They are great hosts.
Hope this helps.
I have stayed in Melaque in June in a hotel without air conditioning, and I don't recommend it. It is really hot and humid, especially at night, when there is no breeze at all anywhere. I love Melaque at any time of the year, and the ocean is wonderfully warm in June (so was my hotel pool ... TOO warm to be refreshing, more like bathwater). If you can, I would advise a hotel with air conditioning. Have fun!
I really thought that upper class vacationers spent their holidays in Cancun, Playa del Carmen, Cozumel at all those really neat All Inclusives, not in some low life place like Meaque. Good we don't need them, they wan't to rag on some drug location go visit the above destinations. Regards Bob
hahah el galeon always fun....alwayz lots ov drunk americans and canadians dacin their asses off, and the locals watchin em makin fools of emselves!!! :) have a blast....barra was the best place i hav ever been visit Rudys smoothie shop its yummy..and eat the cake near the beach there, 10 pesos a piece SO GOOD! i wish ppl sold cake on the streets here... o i forget the name of the bar, but the one on the roof, ya know...everyone knows it, great music...one pool table verrrrrrrrry friendly owners....anywayz hav a blast!
p.s. HELLO!!!!!----we dont have iraq in common p.p.s. i took it to offence when guys called me gringa when i was there becuz it means "dumb american" im not dumb, and im not american. -no matter how much you try to tell them, they think that all white girls with blonde hair look exactly identical.
MONICA- me and a girl from calgary(im from winnipeg) were in barra on exchange to learn spanish, my friend lived in the hotel caribe....its under 15 $ US per night. u have to put up with the common cockroach, but u'll get that nearly everywhere...other then that spectacular place to stay, right down town, right next to the bar on the roof(forget the name, sorry...everyone knows what im talking about tho and so will u once u get there) its like 50 second walk to beach, a min walk to chuch, a min walk to the disco...basically its smack in the center of everything, decent owners. its pretty dam good for under 15$ US per night....Hotel Caribe, thats whut its called.
regular water= cold in morning, cold at night but half decent in the day. so if your a morning showerer(like i am) plan on bending over backwards in the shower....
No you are not American but you are dumb. My dictionary says nickname given to foreigners esp. English and Americans. You a foreigner?
This is definitely the wrong forum for this discussion......leave it alone....
yep your right dafne!
I am sorry I asked this question....
Ray & JJ, Thank you! I really appreciate your help. The information on this board is great!
Bob, thank you for your response as well. I did try Melaque to PV on the Primera Plus website prior to posting this message. It's weird, because it posts a $0 price and no departure times. I thought it might be my computer or something, but I was able to get the site to quote me on other routes. I think their website may be a little buggy.
Thanks again to everyone for the quick responses!
Ted
Ray & JJ, Thank you! I really appreciate your help. The information on this board is great!
Bob, thank you for your response as well. I did try Melaque to PV on the Primera Plus website prior to posting this message. It's weird, because it posts a $0 price and no departure times. I thought it might be my computer or something, but I was able to get the site to quote me on other routes. I think their website may be a little buggy.
Thanks again to everyone for the quick responses!
Ted
Just to further clear up the location...It's in Barra de Navidad.
Gary
Of course Craig, You'll be very welcome any time you decide to come..... Please help us to give a better service to all our visitors sending this add to all your friends... Thank you
I know that a lot of locals visit this site, and I'm leaving soon for the States, so if any of you are interested I have ...
FREE kittens, variations of black and white coloring, that need a GOOD home (and their mothers if you want them) ...
A Panasonic stereo with 5-CD changer, dual tape deck, and lots of bells and whistles that kicks audio butt -- $2500 pesos/ $250 US ...
A 48" X 36" oak bookcase -- $250 pesos/$25 US, OBO ...
A few good video's left -- $25 pesos/$2.50 US ...
A rapidly dwindling number of CD's, mostly classic rock -- $50 pesos/$5 US ...
And other miscellaneous odds 'n ends that MUST GO!
If interested, please email me or call me in La Manzanilla at 351-5311. I don't deliver!
Muchas Gracias, Jane Gorby
Come on now JJ, what's hellish about the lush, green fields and mountains and the absence of tourists? More like paradise. A little sweat never hurt anyone.
You're right, Roger, I agree that summer can indeed be idyllic in terms of the jungle greening up and the place being deserted. My post was from a purely selfish standpoint: I am of the age when hot flashes amp up the temps and humidity by about 20 degrees. Anyone who thrives in a 24-hour sauna would probably love it here during June, July, August, and sometimes September.
Rooster glad to hear the good news maybe stick to your own site and start flaming reports and leave this to people that want real questions and not chest puffing from the cheap seats such as from yourself and 10% Bob.Enrique wrote:
Find the Posada Pacifico, a small hotel on Mazatlan Street. It's about 75 feet away. They could also ask at the Hotel Bungalows Mar Vida. The restauraunt is mentioned on the Barra de Navidad home page.
In my opinion, it's worth the search. Keep in mind, it's very small and only has a small sign that says China Comida.
Gary
I am from the usa and have always enjoyed socializing with canadians. I didn't even realize there was a problem. stupid me. Hope to see some friendly people from many countries on a beach someday soon.
Jerry and Dee , could you send me your e mail address again . I lost them all when I cleaned out my computer and would like to get my pics of the Tomzap party on Feb. 13/03 to you so you can add yours and we can get them posted . Will post an notice later on this year as to when and where the 2004 party will be . Let's hope that we can increase the amount from 32 this year to say 50 or more next year . Regards, Jim
ABSOLUTELY ... Daniel in La Manz.
Any dictionary worth its weight in words should list "Costalegre in summer" under definitions for hell!
Buses depart Melaque for PV almost hourly -- 1st class just gets there quicker than 2nd class.
Stayed at the San Francisco Plaza (460 pesos) last Saturday night.Large room with two double beds.You might want to ask as we did for a room in a quiet area of the hotel.The hotel is in a great location--easy walk to main attractions.Also,La Feria is is just a block away and its well worth a visit for music and food.In January,we stayed in the private room at the Guadalajara hostel.The room was clean but did not have its own washroom.Hot water was sometimes a problem.Staff were very pleasant.The hostel is also close to the major sites.
Tlaquepaque is VERY nice -- much quieter, less hectic than Guad, with many great restaurants and a lot of shops with interesting things to buy. Guad, on the other hand, is a beautiful city with some incredible architecture. Depends on what you want and how much money you have.
First class bus from Melaque to PV, 9:15 and 1:15 am, daily. Cost about 135 pesos or so!
Ted, try Melaque to PV on the Primera schedule Regards
Hello everyone!
Does anyone have any information regarding the bus schedule? I will be in Barra the week of Santa Semana and will need a bus ride up to Puerto Vallarta.
I've already tried the Primera Plus website - it doesn't seem to be able to quote a schedule or a price for that route. It will quote me for PV to Barra, but not Barra to PV.
I really appreciate any help!
Ted
Today is April 1st and it has been overcast and a little cool, very comfortable. High was probably no more than 80-82F..
Being from Winnipeg might be the reason we started to find the heat oppresive by the end of march-beginning april, I suppose we don't really know what real heat is!!!
Hola, I was just wondering if anyone knows if there is somewhere in Barra or Melaque that you can rent cheap bicycles?? For the day or maybe for a week even. Or is there anywhere that rents scooters??
Which bars will be tuned in to the Final Four and Championship games, April 5th and 7th?
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In Melaque, there's Ray. Go to Bananarama and ask for directions to Ray's around the corner. He's got bikes, and he does tours to Tenecatita or Colima. I believe his rates are $60P per day. ~Kip
Sparks, have you been to Santa Clara delCobra, .5 hr from Patz.? great side trip with beautiful cradts amde of copper. See my post below on Melaque/Uruapan, Patz. hope you've had a good time.
Whoops - I meant "beautiful crafts made " of copper. (long day)
Yes I must agree, Daniel Hallas is great(lamanzanilla@prodigy.net.mx) or lamanzanilla.info He took my wife and two girls for a ride back in Feb. and they had a great time. Both his horses (Inka and shik??) were very gentle. Thanks again Daniel. Cost I think was $p100/hour per horse with $p200 min.
Jeff
Gary, I had friends there this weekend and they were not able to find this restaurant. Do you have a better location address?
Iīm burnt out on my spanish lessons and am leaving Patzcuaro this Friday. Someone suggested going to Tlaquepaque rather than Guadalajara. IĻve got most of two days and am looking for suggestions on reasonable place to stay and see.
So Iīm not on the beach ... but lots of people here have passed thru Guadalajara on the way and may have some ideas.
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Hola, Thanks for the trip report.......much enjoyed. Salud Sandra
You can go for a wonderful horseback ride in La Manzanilla on the beach. I've done it myself twice. Daniel Hallas is the one to talk to as they are his (2) horses. He is well known in town and can be found fairly easily. Try the restaurant Bocas, on the beach. He also has a website that you could contact him at prior to arriving. If he doesn't respond directly through this forum, write me and I'll give you his email address.
Charlie
probably the one in barra, right on the beach there i forget what its called, right down the street from the church...it had nfl or somethign there when i waz there, so i guess they have cable, check it out.
I have eaten at Maya for several year's visits to friends in San Patricio. The food is excellent and I have always found the service excellent and very fast by Mexican standards. I agree that the prices could be lower but the quality is excellent. I have never seen ab\ny of the staff High. I agree that it would be hard to run up a bill of $70 maybe $20 unless all they did was drink at the rate of several drinks an hour. MEXICO IS NOT CANADA ENJOY THE DIFFERENCES.
Hello: I just returned home from a lovely stay at Bungalow Mayorca. I would like to extend a huge thank you to Tere and Ray Smith. They are so helpful to the guests. They will take you places if schedule permits, make all kinds of recommendations, and Tere especially thank you for basically nursing Dave back to good health.
I would also like to thank Marta, (housekeepping). She is very conscience and sweet.
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I think that would be Bigotes. It's right on the beach and has a big screen TV set.
Jejejejejeje .........both!!!!
But the week before Easter is usually the busier.
hate to be negative but any time we were there we were quite ready to leave by holy week to miss the croads of la semana santa but mainly because the heat and humidity especialy at night were more that we were ready to put up with
I guess it's relative to what you are used to Dick. April is usually a very nice month...and usually one of the least humid ones. It's usually been since say October since the last substantial rain and it really doesn't start to warm up much until June. Sometimes it can be pretty chilly at night. I like April!!
People are comming.... Thanks
We are planning a week in Barra in late April or early May and would like to avoid the heavy Easter crowds. Can anyone inform us if the Mexican Easter vacation pressure is the week before Easter or the week after?
P>V> to Barra should take you 3.5 to 4 hrs. with no trouble depending on your driving experience in Mexico. Leaving Mismaloya the road climbs for about 20 miles to3200 ft. and curvy but after that you can make better time as the road is straiter and flater till about tenacatita or the lkast 20 miles to the Pemex at Meleque jct. Really no sweat.
The posts don't all need to be positive, both sides in a discussion is good. But to sit and watch two or three adults (?) engage in a temper tantrum and make us all watch is really sad. I'll keep coming back to this site because it's one of the best and you guys aren't going to run me off. You really do need to get a life or at the very least do it via e-mail and leave us out of it.
I expect I will have to take a couple of shots for posting this.
Andy in Arkansas
I am sure that some of the posters on this board can help out. My buddy and I are returning to Barra/Melaque for the fourth year, and the cheapest flights are into Puerto Vallarta. We are going to travel by Primera Plus, after a few days in PV, as we have in the past but rather than going all the way back to the bus station in PV that is past the airport we want to get picked up at the busstop downtown. The Primera site does not mention it but I know it is there because I have been on the bus when it has stopped there.
My question is does anyone know the actual street corner in Puerto Vallarta that the 8am direct bus stops at???? Thanks Sean
Andy, no shots from me , I fully agree with your post . Jim
I have Aguacate and Carranza, I put it on my local map when I asked someone previously. I think that's where they dropped us off when I got back from Melaque early this month.
Andy you are right, sorry for all this but these people will not communicate any other way. I have tried to get them to talk but they refuse. Again sorry about this.
Rooster
Andy you are right, sorry for all this but these people will not communicate any other way. I have tried to get them to talk but they refuse. Again sorry about this.
Rooster
At least, we have something to do...It is funny, I really enjoy all posts here; no matter what....
Guys this is not designed to be funny! Everytime we try and post we get into a dog fight. We will not be returning to this site after Bob from BC answers our questions. Thanks Rooster
The Jar-ro in Barra de Navidad Next to the Club de Lancheros by the Lagoon.... When you arrive here, visit Alice's Restaurant Cyber Cafe for more information...
The one next to the Church it is not open for TV games at the moment.
Did you ever get the phone # to a place in Las Palmas?
We returned on the first week of March from a months stay at Laguna del Tule in Mealaque . It was one of the best holidays that we have had in years . Several of our friends came down and spent some time with us they enjoyed it so much that they booked again for next year , and so did we . The laguna del Tule now has a restaraunt down by the pool and they serve very good meals at a fair price under the eye of Chef David . They also have opened up their swim up bar with Fernando serving the drinks , this is a great addition to the place and the drinks are real very reasonable . . We as we allways do visited a lot of eating places in and around Melaque and Barra and one of the best meals was rib night at Casa Chips , this is on Tuesdays . We als visited Dave and Marie at Banarama for their great breakfast went to Roosters as well for breakfast which we also enjoyed , had Lunch at La Teraza and yes can't forget the great meals at Alcatraz the chicken and shrimp hot pots were as good as ever . This year as we have been going to do in the past years we took a trip to Tenacatita with Ray , and enjoyed it very much. I didn't think that an old dog like me would boogie board but I was wrong and had a great time doing it ( but was a bit stiff the next day) . Ray also took us down to La Manzanilla to see the Caiman , they sure are big and I wouldn't go swimming where they were. We also spent some time at Bigotes great place long happy hour . If you are planning a trip in the near future don't forget to go to Ponchos at the Bus Depot and get one of his Pollo Assado ( barbecued chicken) only 50 pesos and what a deal .
I can't forget the Tomzap Party at Casa Chips on Feb. 13th . There were around 32 people that showed up , these are people that frequent the visitors site on Barra de Navidad/ Melaque Tomzap Forum and are from all over North America. This was our second year of holding this party , and more people showed up this year than last year . Well I'm running out of space but will see you all next year , and hopefully at the Tomzap Party. We have some pictures from the party and will putting them on this site once we collect them all . Jim & Marg Dobinson
I have been in the area all 12 months across 25 years and April is a wonderful month. It does not start to heat up, really heat up, usually until July, then it starts to rain in August an cools everthing down!
I do agree on the Easter response are far as crowds!
Well Jenkins - are you happy jet? Dont you wish you had opened your big foul mouth? Take it as a lesson!
We have been to the Island in Uruapan twice if you ever go back to the area you really should check out the Island it is really worth the trip.They have alot of beautiful crafts and great Mexican food.The fishermen put on a show for you on the boat ride over to the Island.
Joy Would be interested in hearing more about your accomodation. I don't think I have ever heard of Casa de Marcos. Can you tell us more about these two places?
Hi Carrie- I hope you see this post... If I remember correctly, didn't you post that you studied near Barra last year? Could you give me some details about the program you took? I am an advanced Spanish speaker looking for a good intensive program to refresh my skills. Thanks so much for any help you could give! Chava
Sean we have some photos of the Puerto Vallarta corner where yo catch the bus. Its not a bus terminal its just a corner in Old Town Vallarta. The fee is $12.50 us and takes about 4 hours. Where are you staying in Vallarta? If you need somewhere to stay let us know!
Rooster www.bayofnavidad.com
OOPS sorry I forgot to tell you how to get to the link, On the first page click on the Sunset photo, then go to the MELAQUE tab, and at the left you will see a PV bus stop link. Have fun Rooster www.bayofnavidad.com
Thanks for all of the advice- we just got back this weekend and had a wonderful drive to/from Barra. I would recommend renting a car to anyone rather than taking the bus - as long as the funds are available of course!
I'm sorry Kelly, I couldn't track Manny down while I was there but I do correspond with/talk to some of the boys from Jar-ro's occasionally and I'm pretty sure that they could tell me his email... I'll let you know when I found out. Chava
I just wanted to say hello to La Barra (Charlie Brown, Juanita, Luis(store), Chato and everyone else. I miss you all and I will be home soon. Take care, la barbarita
This is what I found in my notes.
From PV the south-bound Primera Plus bus stops on the northeast corner of Carranza and Agaucate every day as it heads south to Melaque. A guy on the curb can sell you a ticket, or there is a ticket place on Insurgentes, west side of the street, between Carranza and Cardenas. The first class bus gets to downtown around 8:00 A.M.
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Hey Chava! I'd love to help you out,i was there with a city of Winnipeg program. However i am travelling to Brazil in 2004 with a program across Canada called Rotary Clubs of Canada. I'm not sure how old you are, I am only 16. I think that i got the best deal when i went there, studying students don't normally get sent to small tourist towns on the beach. Although i met several University students who were studying in Guadalajara, where i had also lived for a month. Guadalajara is dirty(don't plan on going jogging...) but an extremely interesting city, it has a lot to offer...not the beach, but a lot. You can only study in Barra if you are in high school. Actually we didnt even study IN barra, we studied in Jaluco at the Cecytej which only offered "Tourism" or "Contabilidad"(Accounting). There is a normal high school in Cihuatlan, but we weren't placed there. It wasn't with a group or anything, there was me and one other girl from Calgary. But i'd say that if your not in high school, the best chance would be Guadalajara, they have an american school there, where they are learning spanish, along with the University of Guadalajara. If you are in university you can just contact the languages department at your school. If you live in Canada you can contact the Canadian Exchanges, i don't recall the address but its under the canadian government, or contact the Rotary Club of Canada(very hard to get into unless you have hookup). I'm very sorry if you live in the states, all i know about that is that there is an american school in Guadalajara. Sorry bout that. if you have any more questions you can email me at supahkix_cr@hotmail.com Hopefully you can find your way to Barra!!!!!!!!!
Back a few weeks from our trip. thanks to everyone who posted info on these sidetrips. Here's my impressions for those who are interested. We rented a car at ZLO and this trip heading SOUTH (instead of to Melaque). Stayed 2 days in Cuyutlan, just south of Manzanillo. Very quaint town, an old Mexican resort town which was in it's heyday probably 25 yrs. ago. The front wall of the church had collapsed in the Jan. 21/03 earthquake. Quite a lot of damage in the town from it. Our hotel San Rafael was great, on the beach with nice friendly hosts. VERY QUIET town, much smaller than Melaque. Headed along the Michocan coast, which is beautiful,deserted aqua water beaches, with hardly any tourists (only other gringos we encountered were 2 brothers from Texas driving to Costa Rica). Spent a night at Caleta de Campos, nice village on a cliff, before heading inland. Upon reaching Uruapan I fell ill with bronchitis. So, I missed out on some of the fun, but made the best of it. Uruapan is a busy working city. An hour's drive on to Patzcuaro. Visited the museum, and had 4 tour guides, one for each side of the courtyard museum. Very interesting. Lots of Day of the Dead crafts. Did not do the island/lake trip as our book said it was a tourist trap. Lake is not too inviting, land receding. Pretty chilly at night, our hotel did not have a fireplace. Greetings to Sparks, who is studying there now, I hear. Patzcuaro was the only place I've encountered in Mexico where people openly begged, and a few were quite aggressive. A fair amount of gringo tourists in Patzcuaro. The landscape is beautiful. Spent 3 days in lovely Santa Clara del Cobre, just south of Patz. A copper artesan town. Beautiful crafts, and met a lovely family who ran a shop. Back to the coast and finally to Melaque for the last 4 days. Lively happenings as the town readied for St. Patrick's day fiesta. As always, good memories and lovely friendly Mexican people who make our travels so special.
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JIMMY: YOU , YOUR WIFE AND YOUR FRIENDS TREATED ME VERY NICE ALSO. THAT DAY MY FRIEND LEE FROM COLORADO CAME VISIT ME WHEN , I WAS ON THE WAY RIGHT TO LAGUNA DEL TULE BRINGING YOUR CHIKEN. AND HE SAY: LETS GO I GO WITH YOU. I SAY OK. THA WILL BE NICE YOU GUYS ARE VERY NICE WITH PONCHO. HOPE IM STILL HERE TO COOK MORE CHIKEN FOR EVER. TANK YOU JIMMY WIFE AND FRIENDS
JUDY : THIS IS PONCHO FROM PONCHOS RESTAURANT. LUPITAS COME HERE IN MY INTERNENT CAFE, TO CHECK HERS E-MAIL WHEN SHE WORKS AT NIGTH I THINK SHE WORK NIGHT NEXT WEEK. I SOON I SEE HER I LET HER KNOW. THIS IS NEW IN MELAQUE INTERNET CAFE RIGHT IN PONCHOS PLACE BUS STATION. O NLY PLACE OPEN FOR 24 HRS ALFONSO
Hi Paul, Not sure if it's too late but my favorite is Hotel Frances, beautiful building (1600's) across from Governor's Palace. $50/night. www.hotelfrances.com We had a charming stay December 2002.
Only drawbacks to Centro is the noise, but it can be nice to be close to everything.
In July 2001, I stayed at a great hotel on Avenida Hidalgo about 15 blocks west of the Centro. I don't have contact information on this hotel but it was also wonderful. I think it's called Hidalgo Posada Inn. Very clean and comfortable. Same price range, but with a nice breakfast included. Good luck!
So the corner of Aguacate and Carranza it is! Thanks guys Sean
No problem Sean . we hope you have a good stay.
Rooster and the gang
roger, sparks, carlos et al, I rest my case!
Bob you lost your case!
Rooster
I know you said $50 or less... So here's one for much less- loud, not too pretty and the bathrooms are a nightmare but how can you complain for 80 pesos a night? And it's 2 blocks away from the plaza- Hotel Hamilton on Madero. I've stayed there at least 4 times and would again, Good luck!
Nobody wants to be witness to this childish nonsense between you two. Take it off this board. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got back from the Region. We had dinner at the Maya on 3/26. Food was excellent and service also. No problem with the prices.
We ate in different local restaurants every day, 2 or 3 times. We never had a bad meal all week, everyone was quite friendly and helpful in everything we did. Prices in the Costa Alegre are a great value; lodging, food or whatever.
my 2 centavos
Brenda, as you can see I am trying to help sean with the bus stop in PV and what does Bob do? This is what Im talking about.
We cannot post here without Bob interfering. Has he really given any good help here?
Rooster
Why not just ignore him? There's a saying..."do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?" You both seem obsessed with having the last word. And in doing so, waste everyone else's time. To witness your little verbal warfare is not why any of us visit this board. Disengage.
To Anni and Peg and Staff, Thank you for a terrific season, you are ALL the Greatest...food, service and great wine!!! Please don't let a "few" sour pusses tear down what you all have worked so hard to establish....We will see you in the fall...have a great summer.
With warmest regards, Pam and Greg Theriault La Manzanilla y Vashon Island
Dear Anni and Peg, I always send you my guests and everybody came back happy and made sure to go back to MAYAS before they leave.
I myself and my friends had great meals and will come back to you again and again.
Keep up the good work!
HELGA LEHMEN CASA MAGUEY
Sean, In January I caught the Primeria Plus in El Centro PV at the corners described above. There is a second bus that leaves 12:30 pm or so. There were 2 women who sold tickets right at the bus stop, not a guy. The Insurgentes place will not be open for you to buy tickets before 8 am., however the women will show up about 10-15 minutes before the bus arrives. No sooner. That was my experience anyhow. There is a corner market by the bus stop for you to get a cool drink or weak coffee. It's a curvy road so those subject to motion sickness need to be prepared. That said, you'll soon be on the beach relaxing.
Gordon
This string of 30 posts has provided more publicity -- absolutely free -- for Restaurante Maya than they could buy. Like the old saying goes: "It doesn't matter what they say about you as long as they spell your name right!"
Gordon, Nathan and Henry... Good information for Sean re the bus from PV to Melaque, now for a commentary( growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional) Have a great trip, the Primeria bus will make a few stops on the way to Melaque, enjoy them while you go. Saludos Bob
It's really hard to put a value on this kind of exposure, it has been said that every dollar you spend on advertising 1/2 is wasted, the unfortunate thing is you don't which 1/2 is wasted. JJ is right this exposure for the Maya is free advertising, I hear that they have been packed with customers the last few weeks, just sorry we cannot again be there at this time. This November hopefully will work, but we will wait until Maya is open. Bob
I think it's time we had a moderator for this forum . I used to come in and check out the forum faithfully but now I just dread the junk mail that I am confronted with . At one time there was good information on the area of Barra and Melaque , now all there is is 32 or more posts of junk mail. This forum is losing it's creditability and more people will be going to other avenues to find information on Melaque and Barra. Some people have taken a good thing and because it's free and they can post anything they want HAVE RUINED THIS FORUM . I'm truley sorry this has happened but it has . I just hope that some how we can restore this great forum back to where it was a , a great sourde of good information . Jim Dobinson
Worried about recruiting for your party?
Gertrude... You just made Jim's point.
Sadly, I'm in total agreement with you Jim. Time to change the name of this forum to "petty peevish people dot com." ...Or is it person? I'm suspecting by the identical chippish and sarcastic tone of a variety of names on a number of threads, all from prodigy.mx, that it is the same person using several names that is spoiling this site for everyone. It's amazing how much harm just one person can do.
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April- no problema!
Aug.-Sept. can be wet and humid!
Hope you don't mind my posting about our trip to Mexico even though it was to the Caribbean side. We very much enjoy the small Pacific villages like Melaque (were there in Feb./01) and Rincon de Guayabitos (were there in Feb./97 and Feb./99).
We went to the Caribbean side for the first time. Flew into Cancun, were picked up by World of Vacation folks and taken to Playa del Carmen. Our hotel (Continental Plaza Playacar) was very nice. Though we weren't happy with our first room (this seems to be typical in Mexico)as there were twin beds, no fridge, view obstructed, they moved us the next day to quite a nice room. It was quiet as it was on the side facing away from the pool area. We had an ocean view, king bed and a fridge so were happy with that.
A few days later we received a letter saying that if we were willing to go to one of their sister hotels in Cancun on Wednesday they would drive us up there and bring us back on Saturday. It seems the hotel was overbooked as there was a convention going on and I think the participants wanted to stay a few days after their meetings were over. Normally we wouldn't have considered staying in Cancun, but since Ray's sister and brother-in-law had to stay there the first week (because Playa was booked solid) we thought we'd take them up on the offer. That way we could spend more time with our relatives. We spent one day at Isla Mujeres, rented a golf cart and had a ball sightseeing at slow motion.
We were happy to leave there though and head back to Playa on Saturday. Sunday we rented a car to get Ray's sister & brother-in-law and bring them to Playa as their hotel didn't offer transportation between the 2 towns. We stopped along the way to check out some of the beaches and a small village (Puerto Morelos). They stayed at a different hotel than us, which also included meals. This was our first time taking a package (ours was considered "semi-inclusive"). Don't think we'd go that route again. The food was okay, but got very repetitive after a while. We're the type of travellers that like to try the different restaurants and meet more of the locals.
The 4 of us rented a car and went to Chichen Itza. What an experience! We hired a guide there and it was really worth it, otherwise we would've missed out on the history of everything. Good thing we went early, as many busloads of tourists rolled in later. I wouldn't have been able to get good pictures with all the people milling around later in the day. But I got some fantastic shots.
We went over to Cozumel for a day. Our brother-in-law took a SCUBA lesson in their pool and wanted to dive at Cozumel. Ray would've liked to have dived too but can't see without his glasses. Now I know what to get him for Christmas - prescription lens mask. On the trip over and back we saw FLYING FISH!!! It was amazing! Never saw or heard of anything like it before. They're about 1 foot long, are silver and "fly" about a foot above the water for up to 200 feet.
I wanted to swim with the dolphins at Xel-Ha, but ran out of time. We spent more time at the beach this time, but that was really enjoyable too. The water is unbelievably beautiful - light turquoise, clear and WARM! I had a hard time coming out of it - could've spent hours paddling around just past where the waves were breaking.
It is way more expensive on the Caribbean side than it is going to the small villages on the Pacific side (Guayabitos, Melaque). Think we spent about twice as much this time. We'll probably go back to the Caribbean side in the future, but would take air only and rent a condo. There were some very nice ones on the beach. If you share the cost with another couple and get a 2 bed, 2 bath condo, do your own breakfasts and maybe the odd supper, it would be affordable.
Well, should get going. Just thought I'd send in a trip report. I think my heart still belongs to the small villages on the Pacific side. It's more relaxed and way less tourists. Guess there's pro's and con's of each.
Gosh, I've lived here for years and always thought April was quite pleasant, especially compared to June, July and August. And the Semana Santa crowds are great; all those happy Mexican families really liven up La Manzanilla!
Just returned from two wonderful weeks in Melaque. There for St. Patrick's Day, the fireworks have to be seen to be believed, and March 21, their President's day and first day of Spring, fun to see how the 'natives' enjoy their beach. It was a great time. We enjoyed Ceasar and Charleys, Alcatraz, (the Alcatraz specials are great) and Maya's (a little pricey but well worth it in our oppinion) plus several others. We did not have a bad meal. Especially enjoyed our day at Tenacatita and the wonderful Rollo de Mar at Fesita Mexico. Everyone was very helpful, friendly, and warm. The only rudeness we experienced was from 'visitors', not locals. Stayed at the Hotel Vista Hermosa in the same room we stayed in 25 years ago. Clean and basic. Same beautiful view and beach. The town a little bigger and internet stations but not much else changed. Loved the stroll in the square each night. Always something different. Hope to return next year.
AAAAH, ther is the problem, I thought you ment the town of Mazatlan... they will check it out in Barra when they are down there in November. Thanks for the clairfaction!
Just got 3 inches of snow, expecting 10 tommorrow, windchills hovering around zeroin Northern Minnesota. If we didn't have some bad weather we wouldn't appreciate the good stuff.
Will look for your post ... here are some fotos ... and yes a few of the copper in Santa Clara <http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/mexico/Mex2002/2003/>
Everyone in Patzcuaro told me to only take the trip in the boat in the Lago here (donīt get off). If you want to go to a nice lake itīs Zirahuen (Lago Azul) .... great way to spent an afternoon. By no means is Patzcuaro the only place people openly beg in Mexico .... Iīve not been to place they donĻt. There are quite a few here but there are also many many indigenous people in the area ... with absolutely no help from the goverment.
Sparks: good to hear about your travels. We thoroughly enjoyed your photos. Were happy to see places we had just been in Santa Clara (copper forging), in the shop of the brother-in-law of our new friends, as well as the Museum in Patz. I appreciate your comment about the indigenous people, yes, I'm sure the begging is pure survival for them - I guess we've been somewhat sheltered from that in our previous trips. Will check out Zirahuen on our next trip. Also Guanajuato, Oaxaca, San Miguel, Dolores Hidalgo, etc. etc. Can't get enough of Mexico and the wonderful people. Safe trip [%sig%]
Still have availability after April 9th if interested-- 3 bedroom 1 bath condo on the beach in Barra
Hello everyone! Can anyone tell me why topics are disapearing? We just got back from another week in Mexico and when we returned we noticed that some topics are not here anymore.
Can anyone answer whats going on?
Rooster
Ken did you have a good time at the Monterrey? Can you let us know about it?
Thanks Rooster www.bayofnavidad.com
Contact my father at 1400 Gull Ct; Cicero IN 46034 317-984-3139 hlegazpi1@insightbb.com He is just returning from Melaque. He is the owner of the Hotel De Legazpi.
DeeDee thank you very much.
Rooster
well Rooster guess I'mgoing to be the guy on your question of where have all the have posts gone, I guess they have gone south, I believe Tom has done a bit of house keeping, trying to keep his site free of garbage, clean it up a bit, you can understand that, can't you? Bob
I sure wish tom, remember the guy that started this site: , could put in a ingnore tab on this site so we could cut through all the B.S. and petty gripping from some that post here, it seems like about 75% is that way anymore, and if you dont like the poster you would not even have to see ITS name in print, Adios Dave
Well since you start most of the crap it only makes sense to clean it out. Stay to your own site and post your crap there.
OK Bob I will post again until you answer our question! i don,t think you are real! Everyone that reads this please read close, and you will find out the truth about some of the posters on here. bob from BC seems to control every topic but has never been to the area?
Have you even been to Melaque? Are you Tomzap and trying to profit from untrue posts? why would he pull certain posts? the good people that visit this site need to know the truth. Will you answer our simple questions? You seem to run every topic here. Where have you stayed in Melaque? Where do you eat ? When was the last time you were in Melaque? Why doesnt anyone know you there? How are you tied to this post? What are your relations with Tomzap? Tomzap how are you related to Bob? Why do you let people like him control this site? We are here to try and be help to all that read and certain people try and bash us?
Well Bob lets start with these questions. we need to clean this site up of bogus posts.
TOM can you bring back the posts?
Rooster www.bayofnavidad.com
Bob, why wont you answer these questions?who are you and what are you here for?
Just one topic is gone. I deleted it after receiving a complaint about the trash level on this board. I don't remember which topic it was but just that it had a couple of people bickering on it and there was no information about the Pacific coast of Mexico in the thread. If we can avoid the kind of posts that produce complaints AND have no content related to the Pacific coast of Mexico, then I won't have to delete topics or, worse yet, moderate the boards.
tomzap
Tom this is supposed to be the fredom of the board! I would like you to bring it back! Bob from BC is the problem one of this board. What is his relation to this site?
Rooster
Ok Bob I've got a few questions for you myself. We're gonna find out if you're for real or a poser.
1. Are you as regular at home as you are in Melaque?
2. What is your favorite brand of dry cereal?
3. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?
4. Are you gay?
5. What's the difference between a taco and a tostada?
6. Who is hotter, Salam Hayek or Paulina Rubio (assuming you answered no to #4)?
So what do say dude? Time to come clean. Enquiring minds want to know.
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Bob we wouldn't be asking these questions if you wasn't harrassing everyone on this board. We only tell what we know and not hear-say like you seem to do. For everyone on this board we are sorry we are in this conversation but Bob seemed to try and run us off from the beginning.
Rooster
Roger you are what they are all talking about, that post was not necessary. We are trying to get rid of that kind of crap. Please try and not post like that.
Rooster
Rooster why don't you disappear? There was no talk of Bob or Rooster on the board until YOU decided to start the whole thing up again. YOU seem to be the one stirring the sh#t.
Roger have you looked at your posts? Have you ever given any good advise? It looks like you are one of the ones to like to keep things stirred up.
Rooster
Rooster, Are you stupid or what? Have I looked at my posts? I wrote them, you idiot! Have I given good advice? Ask the people whose posts I answered.
Rooster, keep it up and we just might hit your board with many stupid emails too!
Roger I will gladly answer your questions! 1. no not as regular as I would like it to be, however when you are eating food that is somewhat new to your system a couple of times a year you do pay a small price, but that's part of the charm, does not stop us from eating on the street especially on Sunday night around the town centre. That would be Melaque. 2. Do not eat dry cereal. 3 No 4.Don't think so 5.A taco is folded a tostada is open. 6 Salam Hayek, big awards, big time recognition. Gee teach did I pass. Regards Bob Maybe we can meet up in November in Melaque.
rooster you must have beenTijuana last week, hope it was a really great time, shooters ,cervecas ? bob
right on Tom
just to refresh some of you with roosters main intention's he want's to help the people of Melaque, no, he want's to help himself and his crass commercionalism on his own web site, more questions Rooster, ask away, but maybe some of your questions should be self directed. Saludos
Hi, I understand they put out a newsletter. I thiink it would be nice to be able to view that some place. Barb
Well Bob; I don't know about the chicken fellow but you sure convinced me you're no phoney baloney. Yes Salma does have some big attributes ( o ) ( o ) that get your attention.
Barb I will try and find out if there is one and get back to you.
Rooster
Roger, attention yes, she is an incredible performer. Any possibility that she might do a gig at Juniors, if you hear anything let me know, I'll be on the next flight. That's if the wife lets me go, ha! Bob
Rooster, It is my understanding that this is the same group that provides Christmas at the trailer pk for kids each year and helps out with community needs. Barb
Too bad Tom cant incorperate a ingnore tab on this site so you would not even have to read the s--- some on this site spew forth.
Hi, I never noticed this before but while traveling this year we discovered the little town of Acopeneta. It was nice the people friendly. The people were like out frinedly folks in Barra /Melaque. There was a big event going on in the Plaza of all ages of people and the most interesting thing was there was no drinking, smoking etc there at all. I don't think they get many out of the area visitors as they acted really excited to have us there. There is a beach they told us about 1/2 mile away but we were just there passing through to Barra. I regret that we just didn't go there for a few days afater the earthquake and then return for the 2 months vacation we had planned in Barra. Barb
you people have finally sunk low enough to make me angry enough to respond to this mindless, insulting waste of what used to be a great site. Do you really have nothing better to do? Get a life, preferably your own, and open your eyes....there is a bigger picture.
Lighten up nicky.
Smell fish? Anyone!
I would like to bring my wife down to Barra but I'm having trouble choosing a hotel. The only hotel that seems to meet her requirements (in Barra, on the beach, air conditioned) is the Hotel Barra de Navidad. Has anyone stayed there recently? How would you rate their cleanliness and quality relative to the average Hampton Inn or Holiday Inn Express in the US?
Thanks.
Roger, where are you, you know Barra as well or better than most, we have never stayed at Hotel Barra Navidad but did walk thru it, sat in the bar for one Marg,then went to Oliviers across the street for dinner, sadly he left Barra last year , did he go to Chappala or Guad? Anyway it's really hard to draw a parrelel beetween Holiday Inn.s and Hamptons with Mexican establishments, but having said that the Hotel your considering in Barra in my opinion would well suit your needs, hey it's on the beach, there pool looks great, do it have fun! Regards Bob
Yeagh I smell fish, a whole school of them, all being pursued by a beaver! Remember that Candian basher!
Dear Tom, The children are at it again. At least one of them wants you to bring back a 20+ message hissy fit so he can read it again. Freedom of speech doesn't have anything to do with watching someone making an idiot out of himself in public. If you think you are going to make anybody mad by removing this junk from the forum please count me as pro-zap. What they really need to do is exchange e-mail addresses and have at it in private. Just my humble opinion.
Mine too.
Ditto .......it's getting ridiculous!
Barra is a bit overwelming for us. We like the small and quiet of Melaque area. I might suggest you check out some of the small hotels and B & B's there. Our favorites are La Paloma and Casa Juanita.
I agree --- it's not much fun to be witness to the petty squabbles.
I agree completely!!! No one is interested in these petty squables and it certainly does nothing to foster good will, or convince people that this would be a nice place to visit.
I have had friends stay at the Hotel Barra and they were pleased both with the cleanliness and the general atmosphere of the hotel. However, being in downtown Barra, it can be a bit noisy, especailly if you are coming in the week before or after Easter. I have also had friends stay at both La Paloma and The Camino del Mar in San Patricio/Melaque and they were also very pleased with everything. Both of these other hotels are also on the beach and have swimming pools.
Playa Azul down in Michoacan state is very nice. Extremely small, quiet with a couple of nice hotels and some good restaurants on the beach. We drive there from Barra for a week each year. The drive takes about five hours as the road is very twisty. There are also many other smaller places on route that are extremely beautiful and have accomodations available. The area also offers great surfing.
I think the Hotel Barra would be a good choice. The pool is nice and it has a great view. I don't think it's noisy...it's pretty far away from the bars such as Pipers or La Azotea etc. Of course during Easter ALL hotels in the area will be loaded with screaming kids and parties.
I don't know why Barra would overwhelm anyone. It's not even half the size of San Patricio/Melaque/Villa Obregon side of the bay. Plus the areas around La Paloma and Camino del Mar are dusty and dirty with a lot of empty lots filled with trash and/or rubble.
Bob, as far as Patrick from El Olivo goes, you were one of the few that were sad to see him go. He was generally disliked by the locals and they probably would have thrown a party had they known he was leaving!! He had an attitude, big time.
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We were in Tlaquepaque about 2 months ago. Great town. email me if you want more info.
I say it is overwelming because of the traffic and constant pandering on the beaches and in the restaurants. La Paloma is far from being dusty. yes, it is on a dirt road, but so are most of the multi- million dollar houses here in Scottsdale Arizona. As far as the typical neighborhood goes, I would rather have a few vacant lots than wall to wall buildings. Regardless of trash in the area, it is standard to burn trash at night in all of Mexico, so getting away from that is most difficult. My posting was given to help, as opposed to being critical. To each there own.
Tom, I completley agree with the last posters . I know you don't want to have to moderate this forum and that's understandable but some of these guys do take away from the good information on your forum . But for gosh sakes don't close it up as it has helped so many people in their search for good lodgings and great places to eat . But a few warnings sure would be in order . Jim
There is very little traffic in Barra. The main tourist part of town is closed off to automobiles. In Melaque, the tour buses that bring in hordes of trash-dumping tourists outnumber those that arrive in Barra by at least 5 to 1.
Trash burning at night is standard in all of Mexico? That is simply untrue. It happens in some of the poorer areas but is discouraged most places. If you make it a habit to daily burn your garbage and the neighbors complain, you will be told not to or WILL receive a summons to discuss the matter at the delegado's office. No one in my neighborhood burns trash frequently so it's really not that difficult to get away from. There are plenty of open spaces in Barra. A half a block from the Hotel Barra there are several in both directions and they are usually pretty clean. To each THEIR own. muuaaaaa!!
Does anyone have any recent information on the Cabo Blanco Hotel ? This used to be one of the best little hotels on the Pacific coast. Is is still an AI. Any info. you be appreciated. Thanks
AMEN!!!! And such a wonderful forum you have created, Tom, such alot of work! Thanks!
Since when is the traffic closed off? I have smelled garbage burning even when I stayed at the Princess in Acapulco. Dont over glorify Barra, it is a common Mexican town with charms and worts just like the rest of small town Mexico. I choose Melaque area over Barra because of the slower pace, I am 40ish. My 20ish daughters love Barra, so go figure.
tom If you take off posts , wouldnt that make this forum one sided? rooster
I didn't say the whole town. There are several streets where there is no vehicle traffic allowed except deliveries and people that own homes or businesses on those streets. It's a little like Tlaquepaque. And it's been that way since the beginning of 1996. Maybe you smelled the municipal dump burning in Acapulco, just because you smelled something does that mean the hotel's neighbors were burning? I also own a home in Guadalajara. No one burns trash on their property there either.
Hey Tom, just put a ignore tab in and then a person can just ignore the people they want to. and yet everybody can post, its just that we, that dont want to listen to a bunch of bickering wont have to.
Sadly I'm back in Seattle but I don't miss Tlaquepaque. Even tho I found a good motel right on the plaza ... I didn't appreciate the "rip off tourist attitude" I found too much of. Taxies charged twice to downtown Guad as the Guad taxies charged to return ... and I was hit with a 30% service charge at one of those resturants on the plaza. While the crafts places in the area have some very nice stuff ... I think the nick name "Rodeo Drive" is fitting.
An experience ... but I'm just not interested in that side of Mexico.
I spent a lot of money in the Patzcuaro area but the people were great and there is real history and culture there.
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Roger he well may have had an attitude, but we did have a couple if good meals at his place, his waiters screwed up on a couple of dishes, we didn't reallycare but he got all concernded, no big deal. Hey, I believe he was a Chef at the Grand Bay before his place in Bara. He attempted to give me a free meal because of staff screw ups, said not a chance, got a free marg next time we went to dinner couple of nights later, that was ok. But Roger he was from France, not French Canadian, some difference, but not a whole lot. Bob
Roger/Christinna, lighten up, nobody burns in Barra/Melaque, they cook the polo on the street and in the market.but it never is burnt. As for the beaches , yes after holiday times the beaches can be a bit messy, but after a day ot two it.s amazing how they suddenly get cleaned up, a lot of it done by all those who care. For what it's worth they seem to have no returno for plastic bottle/containors,? Bob
Roger, meant Christinna lighten up, have never seen any burning in Barra/Melaque, actually never have seen a beach bon-fire,no marshmallows or weenies. Popcorn would be good. Bob
Rooster ... I must have missed a few while I was gone. Hopefully the deleted posts were related to your self-promotion and your web site (funky as it is) promotion. I just can't imagine what this "save Melaque" theme is all about unless you really live there or have many, many connections. It's also not considerate to use a HANDLE of the same name as a restaurant in Melaque ... especially after Joyce felt she had to make a disclaimer.
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Jimmy 2175' rest assured Tom will not shut this site down, also he will not censore nor moderate, he has a pretty liberal attitude towards what comes across his pages, now you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, I can't recall your input to anythg relating to the good stuff of the Costalegre. Bob
Roger, go to LaManz page see post from Larry, give him some help.
Regards Bob
If anybody is down in barra right now, could you go over to PIPERS BAR and ask Piper if he got the package from Dave yet, as i sent it quite awhile ago and have not got a response yet. thanks Dave
We've been to Barra the last four years during the March/April timeframe. Our preference for places to stay in Barra is Hotel Barra De Navidad. We have stayed at a couple of others, but prefer that location. If you go there, ask for the second floor on the ocean side. The sunsets are great from your deck, and you can watch people strolling along the beach. We enjoy listening to the ocean at night. Barra is only a few blocks square. It isn't more than a ten minute walk from one end to the other. You can stumble home from any bar like Pipers with no problem at all. The hotel has a restaurant "Bananas" where english is spoken. The food is good and Chris the owner will answer any questions you might have about Barra and Melaque. We prefer Barra over Melaque only because we play a lot of golf which is close to Barra. Both towns are great and you will have fun.
Bob, right now I am kicking my own behind for answering your post but sometimes I just get so p-----off from reading your posts that I have to answer you . Yes I have been posting but you have your head so far up you a----s that it's evident you have not been reading any posts except your own . I and my friends have been going to the area for some time now and yes I have been posting on this forum and yes I think it's a great Idea that Tom has . The information that is posted here is of value to a lot of people. But the information that you and rooster post is only of value to you and Rooster . So as has been stated many timeas now ,GET A LIFE . Jim PS, I notice that your e mail address is allways of but then I can see why .
I finally have the time to come and check this site. I miss the place and hope to be back next season (if God is welling!) I love Melaque this has been the best 3 years of my life. I can finally do something I really love. I made so many friends in that town and learn so much. Please write to me and keep me in touch.
Michelle
Somebody in Melaque say Hello to Alberto(Beto), Tony, and Oralio for me. I miss them all ready.
have a great summer Melaque Michelle
Why don't you stick around for the summer, Michelle? It's really a great place to be.
We were in Barra in February and stayed at the Barra Hotel and it was great. It was not noisy and the rooms were clean and the hotel was nice. Restaurant Bananas was good. Across the street was Ramons and it was a great Restaurant. We will go back next year. It is nice to be on the Ocean on one side and right down town out the other door. The town being nice and small. We also went to Melaque and will go there again Next year. Each one has its own special qualities and you will need to decide what you like best. We like them both and will be back next year and stay at each one.. Kathy
I was quoted 4100 pesos for 10 rounds of golf(no cart).This was for 18 holes.Are there any other golf options in the area(Grand Bay is out of my price range).For example,saw on another post that it was possible to buy rounds at a 50 percent discount at Grand Bay if you bought 30? rounds.Is this possible at Club Santiago? Thanks.
Hola Carlos, We are back in rainy Vancouver.We miss you and our friends in Barra.I hope to see you next year. Adios, Andrea
To the regret of everyone in Barra who knows tommy and has had the extreme pleasure of knowing and dining with him,he will no longer be in Barra. Business was very poor this year and Tommy was unable to make out. I left town on March 24th. and visited with him the night before. We are returning May 14th. If anyone has heard anything new,that maybe he has changed his mind and decided to stay in Barra,please let us all know. If he is open and you haven't eaten there GO. Don't let the funky looks turn you away. This is one of the best dining experiences you'll have. I f he is open and staying, tell him Kirk says hello and we'll be back in May. Kirk
To the regret of everyone in Barra who knows tommy and has had the extreme pleasure of knowing and dining with him,he will no longer be in Barra. Business was very poor this year and Tommy was unable to make out. I left town on March 24th. and visited with him the night before. We are returning May 14th. If anyone has heard anything new,that maybe he has changed his mind and decided to stay in Barra,please let us all know. If he is open and you haven't eaten there GO. Don't let the funky looks turn you away. This is one of the best dining experiences you'll have. I f he is open and staying, tell him Kirk says hello and we'll be back in May. Kirk
Bob: Although it has never been a problem for me, to say that, "nobody burns in Barra/Melaque", is absurd. Visited 2 weeks in Feb. this year and 2 years ago as well. Both times I observed burning of trash often, in the evening as well as daytime. In fact this year (Feb.12?) it was at about 11 AM, half a block from the Hotel Barra de Navidad, as we walked in on the beach from Melaque. Sorry folks if this "fires" Bob up again, (lighten up a little Bob). As far as the original question goes, I do agree with Bob, do not try to compare Mexico to the US, in regards to hotels or anything for that matter. Enjoy Mexico for what it is. Rooster: All the crap on this webpage started when you began to promote your own self interest. It has provided myself and friends with great info over the last few years and hope that Tom will continue the good work.
if you like people guadalajara is awesome, dont forget to go to La Marcha :) haha
Had a radiator hose explode while having a 'pit stop' at a toll booth near Guadalajara. Great start to our drive home! Noticed a couple of highway patrol officers at a coffee shop across the highway, so proceeded to ask them for assistance. Took me in the cruiser to a police office near the toll booth, found the phone number for a local mechanic. Police officer phoned for me, and said a mechanic would be here in 20 minutes (mas o menos!). The officer had to go, but indicated he would get back as soon as he could to make sure the mechanic does not rip me for too much money. I tried several times to give the officer a few dollars (for coffee, of course!)...but he absolutely refused, and bid us a pleasant 'adios', and indicated he would try to be back to keep the mechanic honest. Meanwhile, smiling mechanic shows up, replaces the rad hose and only charged 150 pesos for about an hours work (on Sunday!) That would have been 150 dollars back home! Thanks to the police officers, and a very pleasant mechanic, a crappy breakdown turned into an interesting and refreshing look at the great folks in Mexico. Cant wait to get back!
Spoolmak, no your not going to fire me up, only burning that I have seen is during the taxi ride beetween the airport and Melaque, the plantation growers were doing their pruning and burning grass in their orchards, kinda like we do in BC. Regards Bob
Does anyone know how Mr. Don Jose owner of Los Arcos De Jalisco restaurant is doing? He was at the hospital in late march for surgery. Any information would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Hi Andrea!, I miss you too, I hope to be here when you come back..... be good... Carlos
We stay in Melaque every year in Feb and March. I fish in the mornings as the sun comes up over Barra, it's great. More often than not I can see the smoke coming off of the fires north of the town of Barra, towards the highway. They do this a lot and also down towards the free beach in Melaque. If the wind is right you will have no doubt what is going on. It is good to see a regular garbage pick up in Melaque now, this should slow the burning down a little.
Hotel Barra can be noisy not just because of locale but also because of the design of the building.
Noise from one end-often music played at ear shattering volume-aka Mexican standard- echoes off the sides of the square inside.
If the maids are gossiping up something really juicy or a group of aging cougars from Minnesota are singing old Janis Joplin acapella in the halls you'll hear it-loud and clear.
Then there was the night-just 'round midnight-that a gang of braceros decided that some heavy work had to be done to the waterpipes in the Courtyard involving a heavy sledgehammer applied forcefully to the tiles.
The look on my face and a low growl actually convinced them to wait until morning and I didn't have to curse or anything!
I agree about 2nd floor beach side-the only place to be.
We had dinner at Tommi's little place one night during the first week in April. Still open then, but was telling us that next winter he'll be at his other restaurant, which is in Ajijiic near Lake Chapala. So sounds like he's there (Barra) for the time being. The food was good and the conversation really interesting, and he was even listening to a Beijing radio station on the boom box (a bit staticky, buy hey!) Look for the sandwich board sign in front of his place, says China Comida in big red letters. It's about a half block from Pasado Pacifico, same side of street, as you walk up Mazatlan street toward downtown Barra.
Jimmy boy what have you been smokin, please don't put rooster and me in the same sentence, if you had been hanging around this board for any length of time you would realize that a few of us were trying to assist in a general clensing, maybe that went by you. Kindest regards
Bob, lets end it here and maybe next Feb. we can sit down at Bigotes for a drink . PAX . Jim
My boyfriend and I stayed at Casa Chips for three nights. Very unique rooms, like a boutique Mexican hotel. See their website to view the rooms at www.casachips.com. we booked our rooms over the internet and had no problems, stayed in room 5 sunset suite. Jack and his wife Amilia are very accommodating in making sure your stay is enjoyable. We ate at Ramones just down the street- try their seafood soup if you like octopus.
Jim I'll buy the first three rounds of cerveca, the brands of which will vary by the whim of the establishments loyalty to which brand they support on any given day, week or month, but who cares it's cervecas, adios see you then or talk before, Kidest regards Bob
Piper has been out of town for about a week and wont be back til around May( or so he says)
Hello Dave, This is Piper. I'm in Milwaukee for a few weeks. Nothing has come to the bar yet. If you go to my web page www.piperlover.com you can email me there. I hope your trip back to Alaska was good. I hope everyone is well. I'm sorry about Don Pedro. I hope his family is fine. Talk to you soon Piper
Glad to hear the good report. We had great experiences with the Military that guard the State lines. Once, while travelling late in the afternoon, the head guy was concerned that we would be out after dark and called the road block ahead to make sure we made it OK. Once we got there, he radioed back to the other guy that we had arrived safely. Here is even a better story. After I had left my girlfriends in a small town outside Zihuatanejo, they decied to go on a road trip. When the got hungry, they pulled into a small shack with plastic chairs that said Pacifico or Corona, anyway after a short time a lady comes by and give them a plate of tortillas, beans, salsa and a fish. When they went to leave and pay her, she refused, seems they just wondered into someone home/outdoor kitchen and made themselves at home thinking it was a restaurant.hahaha, they left her a big tip and warm smiles.
Is the the little couple that have the place in Barra? We just love that little guy andhis humor. Barb P{S if you have an address of where he is at it would be nice for all of us to send him a get well card.
Hola amigas! My friend jasmine and I are in Puerto Vallarta right now, but we are heading to Barra on the 22nd of April. We were planning on taking the bus but I thought I would ask on this site if anyone is driving from PV to Barra at this time. We would be willing to pay for gas! My email is vic_chick22@hotmail.com Gracias!
Little couple, little guy... Anyone'd think ye were talkin' about Leprechauns! To be sure, Los Arcos is run by Mario and Cuca Hernandez, no connection to Los Arcos de Jalisco as far as I know.
Just returned from a one week vacation. Flew into Manzanillo, had a room in Melaque (hotel Bahia, very nice). It's Semana Santa, y los mejicanos were abundant, but that made it all the more flavorful. We really didn't get anywhere else but into Barra. We loved it. The fish was great. The people wonderful and friendly and we always felt very safe. I've had many trips to Mexico, over many years, some long and some short, and I can't beleive I missed this place. I will be back. Feliz Pasqual! Regina [%sig%]
The gentleman`s name is Don Jose and the Lady is Letecia Figueroa # 170 Av. Veracrux and they own Los Arcos De Jalisco in Barra, i do have their Tel.# but my Spanish is not good enough to give them a call, again thank you.
We went to Melaque and enjoyed a incredible meal and night at La Maya. 7 of us had appetizers, dinner and dessert (and yes there were drinks) for about 900 pesos. I would recommend it for a nice evening out. I have worked in the restaurant industry and I saw a well run establishment. We will definitley go there again when we return to Melaque this month. It is too bad for those people who had a bad experience maybe you were expecting too much and do need to be reminded that you are in Mexico.
Don't be sorry you asked Pedro I am happy to see some of the responses. As a Canadian I feel like the US is my older sibling. Some times they drive me crazy and other times they are great. It is nice to know if you every get in trouble they will be there for you. I would rather be the US's ally than ememy and Mexico most likely feels the same way.
"....maybe you were expecting too much and do need to be reminded that you are in Mexico." What do you mean by that?
Very simple Roger. Fiona feels very superior to all, but really lacks an education.
Had to reply to Fiona"s reply, Im sure like you, most U.S. citzens feel like you do, that for any of are differences we would rather have you as a neighbor than most any of other countrys in the world and you can include me in that feeling, adios Dave
We had a great experience with the Federal Caminos in the middle of nowhere on the way up to Vallarta one day. The alternator belt on the car went and we were stranded. I had a new belt in the trunk but neither I or Enrique (my husband) knew how to change it. We were standing on the highway waiting for a bus and two Caminos came along in their car. I made to flag them down and Enrique (born in Barra de Navidad) said "Don't bother, they won't stop." But, they did, they drove us to a mechanic, and they got out and spoke to the mechanic to make sure that he could take us back to the car because, if he could not they knew of another mechanic further on down the road. They even came back to check that we were okay. I tried to tip them but they said no it was their job.
We also ate at the Maya in Feb.--We found it by accident and happened in there when it wasnt quite opened. Anna let us sit in the lounge area and have a drink while they were setting up the tables for dinner. When they were ready they told us to sit where we wanted and took our drinks to the table for us. The waiter was a little cutey pie that was pretty well there when we called for him. It was a busy nite so the service might have been slow, but we were in Mexico and didnt care!!!! I've had the same problem in Can. also, so la te da!!! We wanted some un-Mexican food, ribs to be exact--nothing too hot or tortillaee--and thats what we got. It was the same price that we would have paid here for. So, thats my 2 cents worth also!!!
Wish I were there!!! Oh yea, we met Anna and her dog, on the beach in La Man a week or so later and she made a point of stopping and chatting. Good on ya!!!
Thanks Guys, I actually have a university education. What I mean't is things are different in Mexico and Americans and Canadians tend to be more uptight and demanding. I certainly do not think I am superior to anyone but thanks for the vote of confidence. I am now leaving this chatroom as I entered it looking for some information and now feel backed into a corner. Hope you all enjoy your holidays.
There is a new development in behind the Colinas de Plata and just east of the lagoon in Barra. Looks like rentals but could not find an office nor any signs other than one on the dirt road that says welcome to Villas Azul. It has two large adjoining swimming pools that look very inviting. Does anyone have a contact address or any other information?
Happy Easter to all my friends. I hope this Easter brings a lot of happiness and good health to all my Mexican friends and any guests in their country. Barb
There are two Los Arcos in Barra??? My husband and I know Cuca and Mario very well and have for many years. I am sorry I cannot help with who Don Jose is and where he might be.
Barra de Navidad is a great place to visit or if you want to retired thats a great place to live. I was raised there for 8 years, now I live in San Francisco CA. Every time i go and visit i dodn't want to come back, the people; it's easy to make goood friends that will help you a lot they can help you guide you make friends have fun and dodn't forget to take pictures tell people about it and dod'n stop visiting Barra De Navidad a GREAT Place to visit (go).!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust me *******
Bob why have you gone to the Huatulco site to spread your poision there. You said yourself you have never been there and yet, you are doing your same old evil there. Stay here, PLEASE.
Right you are, Dave, and it's a pleasure, too, to remember that it was the Canadian embassy who accepted and hid some Americans who were in danger in Iran some years ago. Always thought we should buy those visitors from Canada a cup of coffee, eh.
My name is Clara Valdés; I work as a teacher at the secondary school in Bahías de Huatulco, Oaxaca. I'm organizing a second Summer English Program. Last year we got two volunteers one from Canada and one from U.S.A. and 80 students. This year I will need four volunteers for teaching Basic English from July 14th to August 1st, 3 hours per day from 9 to 12 in the morning, from Monday to Friday. My students range from 6 years old to 15 years old. I will be available to help you, and will provide you with a teaching guide and the supplies you will need, please be prepared to make your own lesson plans.
In exchange I offer a private bedroom in my home (July 12th - August 3rd) and you can also use the kitchen, the volunteer will be welcomed as a member of my family (Mimi 12, Martin 10 and me 42).
I am a licensed teacher with 20 years experience, and have taught all language levels. I would be happy to provide classes for those volunteers who want to improve their Spanish skills. I can provide grammar instruction as well conversational classes and have several textbooks and resources. Classes will take place in my home in the evenings; I charge $7.00 dollars per hour per student. For more information contact: claramagda61@hotmail.com tel. 958 58 3 43 74 Lote 19 Manzana 6 Ampliación "J" Bahías de Huatulco, Oaxaca. 70989
do you not have spell check AH
The last time I went by the Villas Azul on my bike it was open as a hotel, but I've not been by there in a few months and there were parts of it still under construction at that time. I'll swing by again and check it out.
For partying and casual pool the Surf bar and the Caxcan both in Melaque, have good drink prices, lots of people having fun and pool tables.Both are on the street that is across from the Jardin and runs parallel with the beach. Caxcan is right on the corner of this street and the main street leading into Melaque from highway 200. It's above a pharmacy and it has a huge sign and flags. The Surf bar is a block further south, heading toward the church, on the same street, same side of the street above a flourist.
There are also numerous neighbourhood Pool Halls scattered around all of the towns, they all have a sign that says "Bilar", which means billiards. They are not fancy, most don't have tables for sitting, but they all have pool tables and they all sell cheap beer. Many double as depositos (beer stores). Some also sell alchoholic drinks, though you would not be finding a margarita or banana daqueri. This is where the local guys hang out and play pool but you will be welcome if you go in to play.
Oops need spell check, the pool halls are called Billar.
do you not have a life?
And thus it begins again. "Oh no" has thrown the first punch. She (I say she because I believe that it is Yoko "Oh no" who is doing this) is bored with the exchange of valuable information and whats to watch some "cuss fights" as we call them down here. She (Yoko Oh no) picks on Bob from BC because she knows he's easy pickings. He'll raise to just about any bait, and we weren't disappointed, he came up on that one like a catfish after stink bait. Oh-no asks, "do you not have a life?" I ask the same question. You guys, and you too Yoko, need to seek some professional help.
MA, spent some 10 winters on the beach at Melaque. This US/Canadian conflict drivel is a total crock. Some of our best contacts have been with people from British Columbia..........and we have been visited by numerous folk from Canada, as well as staying in their homes. They aren't aliens. People are people and this is a one on one thing. Most of this crap discussed doesn,t have much to do with the real world and many of these people have not figured it out. Sorry to respond late to your comment. Say la vie. Hugh
Bravo Andy
i just think it is ironic and a bit of a shame that we can take one of the most peaceful, beautiful, warm and welcoming places in the world and hack it apart to find the flaws....the planet is in such a state of disease at present- can we not just rejoice in the paradise that is barra de navidad/melaque? i know for me not a day goes by that i don't long for the endless days of sunshine and the generosity of the people that i think of as family....peace.please.
I agree wholeheartedly!! I just can't wait till my hubby & I can spend 4 month every winter in beautiful Mexico. I'm sure we'll head for the little out-of-the-way places such as Melaque and Guayabitos, where the people are so friendly and always smiling. It's a bit of heaven on earth to me.
Tom: Seems that several of the folks that visit this web site have way too much free time on their hands - Thus all of the petty bickering and gross negativity included in the posts re: Melaque and Barra. This refers primarily to Bob in BC, Dan, Rooster, Roger and a few others. Frankly, because of these and a a couple of other folks I have been extremely reluctant to enter any posts to the site and if I feel that I have something to add or to answer a specific inquiry my response goes directly to the thread linking the sender to his email address. ie: No Link, No Response from Me. Guess I have been lambasted and dissed one time too many for trying to answer specific questions or to offer an honest opinion.
The solution to the problem is simple - If you were to remove the respondant's option to hide his/her email address and/or insure that every post has an active and accurate link to the sender I feel that 90% of the troublesome participants would disappear into the sunset. What is your feeling on this?
Herb Feinberg Grand Junction, Colorado
have been served by you and have enjoyed the compelete sensorial treatment which is maya. I come from the service industry in vancouver which is where peg hails from (delilihas) and have enjoyed a piece of home and so much more in mexico. good for you ladies for living your dream...i wish to be apart of the same....i know for a fact how happy your staff are as i have had the priviledge of speaking to them about their working experience with you. as for you two- you keep living your dream- all of us should have the courage to do so....i would love to work for you next winter unless i get a big movie gig.....much love- todo amore para te- bonnie
hola hi please be out there. i am a young woman who is falllen inlove with barra de navidad/ melaque. i have been returning for 6 consecutive years. i try each year to escape from my life and spend time down in the place that feels like home to me. the problem: i am an actor who is desperately trying to carve out a career for myself here in Vancouver Canada. with everything that is happening in the world time is getting more and more precious...who if anyone knows how i can fulfill my lifelong dream of being an actor and still live in the place that i live to call home which is mexico? this is a long shot...someone please. willing to apply for a film making grant etc...sounding like a flake i know but still worth a shot...
Hello Gil.
I ran into Leticia of Los Arcos de Jalisco at the Carneceria today. Don Jose returned home from hospital eight days ago. He had open heart surgery and has been very ill but she says that the danger period has passed and he is new recovering, poco a poco. Leticia says that she has received some letters and will answer them. She is very touched by and appreciative of, the concern their friends from other places have shown for Don Jose and says she can not express her thanks enough. She wishes you all the best.
Hi, I just read your comments regarding the Mayorca Bung. could you please tell me exactly where they are according to town or the Bananarama rest. of which I do know where that is. Did you find the place clean and had everything you had imagined? We have been there before and stayed at La Paloma just around the corner from Bananarama rest. and down another street a block away on the beach. Could you please tell me about the Bungalows, as I also see there are some suites. We live in Victoria, B,C. Canada, hope to hear from you soon. Marlene
DITTO !!!!!
Thank you.
Thank you very much for the report, was concerned about Don Jose, they are great people. Again thank you.
I was told that a ufo was sited landing in the Melaque area. is this true and has anyone seen the aliens?
well oh no, (aka rooster) not yoko oh no, I believe your hanging out at the Huatulco page so you can exploite your self and your web site to a new audience that that you can really offer nothing except a web-cam concept and any other commercial opportunities that you are attempting to create for your own benefit, those that watched and contributed to Barra?Melaque quickly saw thru your commercial effort and took you to task, guess others on Huatulco will figure it out. Now Andy is that raising to the bait or just fishing? Regards Bob
frank, please back to Huatulco,Adios Bob
oh , no its bob!
Bob, I think you are wrong..... I don't think that 'Oh No' is 'Rooster'. If you look at the Author name, it says .ca at the end meaning a Canadian email server. Rooster is not from Canada and has not posted from Can\ada. Check with your fellow Canadians who 'Oh No' is. Why is this board so negative all the time?? It is getting really old, all the accusations. It's getting to be not about Melaque anymore. Thanks!!
Sean, I went by Villas Azul today to snoop around, the office is right in front, but there is no sign. There are three pools one of which has a large, twisty water slide. All rooms have air conditioning and TV with Telecable. It's not cheap though, they offer three types of accomodation. Villitas with three bedrooms, $3,000 pesos per night Villitas with two bedrooms, $2000 pesos per night Rooms, $900 pesos per night.
The manager says that they do have special monthly and weekly rates but that they are dependent on the booking date. They do not have a web site or e-mail address but he says that 800-355-7273 works from Canada and the USA. You appear to be in Mexico so it would be 01-800-355-7273 from here. He also says that he speaks english.
The regular numbers are (315) 355-7171, 355-7172, 355-7173. No indication if one of these is a fax or not.
how about just a hammock outside ??can they do that for 300 pesos a night??for 900 pesos a night I would hope there are 3 meals included.
I heard the W.H.O.is comming to toronto,where can i buy tickets and face masks?
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because the parts on our chevrolets are not interchangable!!!
Heres a foto of them in the area but back in December on the University web cam <http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/mexico/mex2002/saucer-colima1.jpg> They're probably headed back north for the summer by now [%sig%]
We are interested in staying at Bungalows Mayorca. I am concerned about the cleanliness(cockroaches?), or value of the place because it is so inexpensive. We are in charge of finding a place for our family of about 8 couples and 5 children. Can you tell me more about this place? Did you feel safe there? What are some things we need to be aware of? Thanks!
My girlfriend and I have been vacationing in the Huatulco / Puerto Escondido area for tha past couple of years. We are interested in the Barra / Melaque area. Please discuss similarities and differences between the two areas. Thanks.
We have never been to Huatulco/Puerto Escondido but love Barra and Melaque. I will be very interested to hear from those travelers that have been to both places.
Thanks Nan: I was beginning to think that no one knew anything about that Hotel. I am in Morellia now but should be back in Barra about the 17th of May, in regards to those photos that you wanted. Sean
Melonie , I have stayed at the Bungalows Mayorca and quite frankly I can't think of anything that you would have to be aware of that would cause you any problems . Eva at the registration desk is very helpfull and speaks very good english along with Tere and Ray Smith ,I think you are in good hands . I personally did not see any of the bugs that you mentioned when we stayed there , and I don't think there are any . The pool is just gorgeous and it is very comfortable for both Children and Adults . The complex is right on the beach and about 15 minutes walk from centro . Pop and Beer can be purchased at the front desk and there is a store about a block and a half away . We don't stay there any more , and the reason for us moving is not because we didn't like it but that we found some old friends at another place not far from the Mayorca and moved in there to save us a walk . But on my walks to town I allways stop into the Mayorca to visit old friends . I think that if you pick the Mayorca for you first Melaque holiday that you will probably return there again and again .
PS, we did feel safe staying there , and the maid service is first rate and the units are nice and clean . Jim Dobinson
I've spent extensive periods of time in both general locales.
I prefer Barra/Melaque over Oaxaca for a number of reasons but in the end they're my reasons that reflect my quirks/passions.
Personal security is shakier in Oaxaca/food is generally better in Barra/Melaque.
Because Barra/Melaque has a lot of Mexicans vacationing and has had for decades there's a history of service there-merchants aren't quite as avaricious as some in Huatulco.
Better swimming-beaches aren't as rough usually.
Fishing has gone to mierda in both places in the past 10 years unfortunately.
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either one to anyone wanting a holiday but anywhere on the Oaxacan Coast will always be second choice.
Also-if someone takes issue with what I've posted-PLEASE don't get personal about it OK?
Can anyone give me information, or a link on particulars in regards to a Canadian buying/insuring a used motorcycle, truck or car in Mexico.This would be for use over a period of about 5 months, hoping to sell before leaving the country. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Spoolmak
As an earlier poster stated, this is not the forum for this discussion.But now that it is on the table I would like to say that I am a proud ( born and raised)Canadian ! and I enjoy and appreciate my American neighbours! An earlier poster rightly called us siblings and siblings will have rivalry, and often with rivalry the older or larger one wins! Fortunately the disagreements between our peoples are small , we are by all accounts good , and friendly neighbours. As a born Canadian, I know that when push came to shove and the Americans really needed us we would be there very quickly , as we have in the past. Canadians chose to go to Afganistan with the U.S. , and lost troops in doing so! Canadians were not interested in Vietnam! Canada was in Korea, And our troops were in both WW1 amd WW2 long before the Americans showed up! The point im making is that we dont have to be lock step and have exactly the same views to be good neighbours,or good family ! our differences compliment each other! When I am traveling the globe I enjoy meeting lots of people from all over the globe. and I have met a large number of Americans that I am proud to call my friends. and I have also met a few Canucks that I would rather not! I think we as Canadians are fortunate to share the continent With two great neighbours ,Mexico and good ol U.S. A . Lighten up ,get along and soak up a few Margaritas on la Playa in Barra/Melaque Cheers Griff
Hey japones, the fishing was excellent here in Dec. and Jan.
Oh darn! It was probably the Mother Ship come to take me home, and I left before they got there. ;-)
Roger, fishing is going down fast in all places compared to years before.
Hopefully sport fishermen have started "catch and release". I think that way fish won't be depleted.
Is that you John from Tennis El Palmar? If so, Ray & I say "hi". Had a wonderful time there in Feb./01! Still think about Melaque a lot. My heart is still there, even though we spent this winter's vacation on the Caribbean side.
Melaque is so peaceful, with beautiful people, beach and weather.
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I think the beaches are a little nicer in the PE area, but I agree about the food and perceived security in the Melaque area. However, it's kind of a "flip a coin" to me, I prefer Melaque because it's easier to get to than PE for myself.
In planning our vacation for 2004,I wondered when Holy week starts.Is it the week before Easter or the week during Easter........?? Anyone??
Check with Nancy at La Paloma in Melaque, you can find their website here on Tomzap. She isnt an actor, but she is connected with the Artist World, perhaps she can lead you in this search.
I just read a post about how the catches of fish have steadily declined over the past 10 years. I'm wondering if what we witnessed in December has anything (or everything) to do with it. We saw boats stringing long (and I mean LONG lines) with baited hooks. Our skipper said that this is illegal, but the local police ignore it, for a price. If what we were told is true, these long-liners pay the police to look the other way. Also on another trip to Caustacuamente (spelling?) we saw a couple small boats come in with live coral heads and selling them. There's a wonderful children's book out there (can't recall the name right now - I think it's called Just A Dream, by Chris VanAlsberg), but on one page it shows two men on a fishing boat celebrating. They were shouting and jumping for joy. When asked what they were celebrating, they replied that they had caught a fish - their first fish that week!!! And it was very small to say the least.
Semana Santa is the week before and semana Pascua is the week after.
Semana Santa (Holy Week) is usually the livelier of the two weeks, and by Holy Thursday the beaches and local accomodations are packed.
Well as bad as it sounds: It is the truth! People are breaking the corals to sell and catch the fish with long lines (zimbras they call them) and the authorities are turning the other way....
I have fished with the same fishing guide for the last ten years (sport fishing) out of barra, it is true the fishing is not as good as it has been in the past, but it is not ALL the long liners fault, of course some of it is as there are some long liners that disregard the law about what days they are allowed to fish, and it is a bone of contention with the sport fishing guides as they see their catches dwindling. The temp also contributes alot to the lower catches as will as feeder fish as they move with the temp. To put it bluntly not all long liners are bad nor are all sport fishing guides good. The bottom line is it is not illegal to fish "long line" in the barra area.
Dave you donīt know what you are talking about. It is illegal to use a longline within 50 kilometers of the coastline ANYWHERE in the Mexican republic.Also the temp. had nothing to do with the decimation of sailfish in the area it was all due to the illegal longliners. The problem is that they pay the port captain a monthly mordida. The laws are clear there is just no enforcment.
Ramon, nor is the daily catch limit by the sport fishermen usually enforced and when the fishing is good most of them have no qualms about catching far more than the limit, which is 3 dorado or 2 sails a day per fisherman and 1 marlin per boat IIRC. There are people who spend the winter and brag about how much fish they have frozen or canned and will take home to Canada or the US.
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That last post should read: 3 dorado and 2 sails.
Ramon, get a life all i said was that it was LEGAL to long line in the barra area, 50k is not that far from the beach, so smart ass if they the long liners are fishing 50 k off the beach they are LEGAL, i said nothing about distance and neither did the person that started this subject all i said was that is legal, so it sounds as though you may be the person, if he took the time to read and understand things would not rush to judgement, and the temp does make a diff on where you will find the fish, so like i said get a life
Hey Dave, I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that you've never been 50k offshore in any of your trips. And the OP hasn't either.
its a russian submarine sucking up all the fish through its torpedo tubes, thats why fishing is so bad... its a new secrect fishing system. they reversed the tube pressure. them dam russians are sneakey critters, and you cant see them doing it either.i heard they are sending a whole sub fleet next year......
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This is just an informal pol to find out how many people that use this forum for information on Barra and Melaque would like to purchase shirts or hats with Tomzap on them . That is if we can get Tom Pennick to have some made up . If we can get enough people to respond positivly to this pol . I am sure we can get Tom to have shirts and hats made up for sale . If you are responding to this post , please only do so if you would like to purchase . Hey we use the forum all year to read and post information , let's carry it to Barra and Melaque and wear them proudly. . Thanks , Jim Dobinson
I know that the several nets we saw were located probably 1-5 miles offshore. I was shocked by the fact that they didn't seem to care we were even nearby. No sneaking around - out in plain site.
Roger you are right about the enforcment of sport catches and that is a problem. There are some who are trying to offset their fuel costs by bringing home enough fish to last the summer and thats wrong. I think the daily limit for dorado is 2 fish. And Dave keep saying get a life its such a clever retort. You obviously dont have a clue.
Hey roger to put it in propespective that is 31 miles off shore and yes i have been that far out fishing off the barra beach, and i dare say some people on this board have way to much time on their hands as i see the same names bitching about what ever--- ROGER --BC BOB---ROOSTER do you get the drift of course we cant all be perfect like you people so we will just have to bear with the bull **** you have to say, oh by the way have a nice day.
Roger; To quote you: "There are people who spend the winter and brag about how much fish they have frozen or canned and will take home to Canada or the US." How come you didn't mention the locals who take them fishing for a fee and the locals who take bribes to allow illegal fishing. You just seem to only BASH foreigners. How come you don't BASH all illegal activities, no matter who commits them? Hmmmmmmmm!
Not sure if you call them long lines but what I'd call trot lines of around 1/4 mile long or less are very common around Manzanillo and are manned by guys in pangas. I've been told by various fishing charters that I have been on over the last 20 years that theses trot lines can catch as many on 50 or more sails in a day. I don't know if that is true, I have seen sails caught on these trot lines. As with all fishing sometimes you catch fish sometimes you don't. These long lines may have some impact but so does the temp and 'color' of the water. If you go out on a 1/2 day charter sometimes you won't be able to get out to the blue water in the time allowed and thus fishing may be off. I doubt you'll be out 50km (over 30 miles) even on a full day charter. If you have ever eaten sail fish (pez vella sp?) you probably wouldn't be in any hurry to can a winter supply to take home. It is not much for table fare. Dorado on the other hand is great.
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Not really , just wanted to see what the respnse woudl be . Jim By the way JOJO, why did hide your e mail address ?
My husband and I want to take our four year old daughter on a 4 month trip to the Melaque/Barra area in November. Once she starts school we won't have a chance to do this again. We have been to the area before back in 1996 when we spent 3 months in Mexico and Guatemala. Any suggestions about budget/moderate long stay accommodations with cooking facilties (communal is fine) and possibly if there are other families with young children who do the same kind of travelling? Also what is the monthly cost of budget living in Mexico these days? Thanks for your time! Love this website!
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I think it's a fine idea. I personally dont ware t-shirts or hats, but I bet it would get people in touch with common interests.
How wonderful! . I would send myself or husband down on a scouting mission prior to bringing the child. It might be worth the added expense just to be certain you will be comfortable for the 4 months. I have seen a message from Dr. Woo. I think he has an apartment that seemed reasonable for price and sounded nice. See if you can find one of his old postings. He is a local Dentist (?) in Melaque.
Rogelio, Actually the guys I'm talking about aren't hiring the locals to take them out, they are boat owners themselves, some keep a boat here year around and others haul one down for a few months in the winter. Some of them fish just about everyday for months. Many of them also have RVs and load their freezers with fish. Some can a lot to take home. These guys are some of the biggest complainers about the long lines. So you see putz, I call BS when I see it.
Dave, maybe you have been out 30 miles but that is very unusual for a panga charter. Most pangas captains are content to troll "el Viejo" or up around "la ampolla" for a number of reasons. Only a few very serious fisherman go out that far and usually only when there isn't any action in closer. Your novice tourist fisherman doesn't want to spend all that time running all the way out there.
I here the japanese have lines they put out 200 miles long with as many as 60,000 hooks. now thats a long liner.also I read they recently caught a giant squid 100 ft. long which had a panga with engine inside it, but no sign of the captian.
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They called it off for next year because of the economy.
A great place to start out is the Hotel Bahia. It is at the farthest end of Melaque beach - the quiet, flat end. Perfect for a youngster's day at the beach. The hotel is about half a block from the beach, on a quiet street. The price is budget (160p in 2001) - and it's very clean. Family-run. There is a communal kitchen with a fridge and microwave, lines for hanging up hand-washing. There is lots of information to be had - the hotel is populated with budget travellers and the information on things to do, where to buy etc. is passed on week to week. It would be an ideal place to start off - do some scouting and you will have an apartment or bungalow in no time. Have a fantastic trip! You'll be making memories for a lifetime!
Lisa, I would concur with Brenda that the west end of Melaque is great for young kids. The beach is protected by Cabo Blanco so the waves are gentler. We stayed at Hotel Legazpi 2 separate trips with our red haired boys. We found the staff to be very hospitable for the kids. Communal kitchen exists. But 4 months you would want a longer term rental.
We were in Melaque when our kids were 2 and 4 and later when they were 4 and 6. Consider the "water park" just outside Barra for a fun diversion. Get a snorkel mask that fits here before you leave. And traveling with kids in Mexico is like having a diplomatic passport. Mexicans love children ! Yes do it.
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Hey Frank, I'm just making a guess here but, you don't get invited to very many parties do you? Tom's pretty liberal yet you are the champ for having you posts "edited". You can respond to this comment with your usual "oh ya" come-backs but I won't offer you the pleasure of one of your debates. I said it and I'm done.
Yes, the water park is a must. It's clean and great fun. Also, a trip to Tenacatita and breakfast at Bananaramas...or as my then-two-year-old called it "Banana Grandmas". Gordon is right about how children are treated and revered in Mexico.They, and you, will have a wonderful time.
Thank you for your advice I certainly appreciate it! Lisa
I went to Alice's Restaurant several weeks ago, the waiter told me there is no food served right now. I wanted to know about the internet rates and he said not free and did not mention first time free.
Wow! Lots of comments. I had the pleasure of working at restaurant Maya for a lovely busy season. As a foreign employee, I was well treated, equally on par with Mexican employees. We all came out at the end of the night with the same money. The tips were accounted for and logged each night and everyone who worked there was welcome to see that. We were only a couple of foreign employees, and were all certified. The only real reason for hiring us was that we were used to working with the demands of North American expectations and were able to help train the local employees with that. For anyone who has accually lived in Melaque you must know that when you to to purchase groceries, they can be quite expensive, even by Canadian standards so the prices at the Maya, especially with the quality of the food is in no way over priced. When you take into consideration the amount of man hours that are required to maintain the incredibly beautiful atmophere there, food cost and all the other expenses required to run an establishment of this quality, it is really quite reasonable. I had the pleasure of working with Annie and Peg who always treated me kindly. We had great meals at the end of each night, I never ate so well, or worked in a restaurant that fed their staff so many great things. Peg is the best Chef I have ever worked with and I encourage everyone to experience her exquisite menu. For those of you who have never worked in a restaurant it may be difficult to see things outside of being a patron but there is alot more to running a restaurant than the eye can see. All the staff at Maya are giving 100% and are wonderful people who try their best. I would work there again in a heartbeat, and it is not for the money, for those of us outside, it is for the experience of living in such a great town and knowing such great people. Both Local and Foreign. I also know very well the staff member who was singled out for bad behavior and can say that that is a slanderous comment not even worth commenting on. Shame on you. Penny
thanks christinna, i will....all the best, bonnie
HI, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE MONTHLY RATES AT BUNGALOWS MAYORCA ARE? WE ARE IN THE BUNGALOWS EXCLUSIVOS AND WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR PAYING A LITTLE LESS MONEY.
THANKS, NORMA
I ALSO WOULD LIKE INFO ON PURCHASING AN AUTO IN MEXICO, JUST DROVE BACK TO TEXAS AND PLAN TO SELL THIS CAR AS IT IS NOT "RIGHT" FOR THE TOPES.
I think its a great idea. I have a closet full of caps and t-shirts and every one of them brings back some good memories. It would be fun to see one of those walking down the beach in Melaque or Barra but the really cool thing would be walking down the street in the summer in the US or Canada and see a "Tomzap" shirt coming the other way. You think there might be common ground to start a conversation? Just be careful how you start, since the person could have just bought it for 50 cents at Marg's garage sale because Jim out-grew it drinking all those Pacificos. Andy & Connie in Arkansas
Cars, new and used, are very expensive in Mexico. You are much better off buying a used car in the US or Canada and driving it down to Mexico. It is illegal to sell it in Mexico but many people do and make money on the deal.
I think Barb and Frank Jenkins got what they deserved and MAYA got a great advertising!
I understand vehicles can be expensive in Mexico, but that is irrelevant if it is to be sold at the end of the trip. Also, I am not interested in waisting a single moment of my life in the US. I fly only direct from Canada to Mexico in order to avoid all the US Customs hassles.
they have rescheduled holy week because now the economy seems to be improving ,,but they moved it up to june 10th...,,,,,,,,,,,by the way,,im the editor!!
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THE BOARDER IS EASY,,IVE NEVER HAD HASSLES EITHER WAY,,,COMING OR GOING. BUY A CAR IN THE STATES,,,MUCH CHEAPER,,,AND TAKE THE COAST HIGHWAY(gulf side) DOWN TO VERACRUZ THEN CROSS OVER,,,NO HASSLE ,,,NO MEXICO CITY,,,NO MOUNTAINS.
they found a dead alien
WHEN I DROVE BACK FROM MELAQUE LAST WEEK I STOPPED AT A FRIEND'S IN MONTERREY AND HE SAID THAT NEW CARS IN MX START AT $6,000 TO $7,000. I GUESS WE JUST NEED TO GO BY THE DEALER.
HE SAID VERY INEXPENSIVE FOR A VW IN MX. HERE THEY ARE 20,000.
HI DEE DEE, I JUST TRIED THE EMAIL ADDRESS FOR YOUR DAD THAT YOU SUPPLIED AND IT CAME BACK WITH AN ERROR.
I ENTERED: hlegazpi1@insightbb.com IF THIS IS NOT CORRECT CAN YOU GET ME THE CORRECT ADDRESS?
THANKS, NORMA
Chicago Frank: You don't get it, do you? I am not interested in spending a single moment in the US. Why would I buy a car in a country that uses my spending in their economy to force their political views on the rest of the world.
NAFTA kicks in later this year and all the rules change. used vehicles are losing their much inflated prices rapidly here. you can also buy new cars at some of the major dealerships at ''0'' interest. look up ford motor co. mexico. i am not sending this info for a debate, i am weighing out the + and - of purchasing here in mexico or north of the border. hopefully here.
Jack, Some models here are roughly the same price as up north but domestic cars have to pay the yearly "tenencia" and that adds up over a few years time.
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We may be wimps here in Canada, chicago frank, but we don't go around the world killing, maiming, terrorizing people and then call it 'liberation'. Spoolmak is not the only Canadian that feel that way, I usually drive to Melaque in winter and this past winter did not go because the trip through the US would have given us to many bad vibes. Your bad attidude is displayed by you calling spoolmak a name like'wimp' right away instead of respecting his different opinion. It might not hurt you to go and talk to the families of the dead or maimed Iraqies to find out what they think about Americans either!
Had 2 great experiencies with Mexican police: Took the 'libre' route around Obregon, got lost, parked at the side of the road studying a map, police car drives up inquiring what's up. After he found out that we were lost he led the way for a few miles and then waved us on on to the correct road.
Approached a big crossing in a city. 4 roads, nobody moves, I'm first in line and study the situation. Still nobody moves. I finally take off crossing the road. Cop comes behind me, tells me I went through a red light. I asked where the light was. He tells me right above my car, couldn't see it. He wishes me a nice holiday, no fine.
No indication that a tip or bribe would be in order, so I did not offer, still all smiles.
Dear Norma, Free Internet Access is only if you mention the add in this site... *** We have for you FREE full Internet Access on your first visit,,,, just print this add and show it to me. Alice's Restaurant Internet Cafe,,, Open and friendly place to check your e-mail. Thanks for your concern.... Carlos
sure is nice to travel all over and be free to do it, not like some countries with no freedom to do anything.
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Chicago Frank: You win. You have clinched the title. Your beliefs and intellect rank right up there with George W's. Way to go. USA rocks.
thanks---bussiness as usuall down here,,,we do the fightin you do the complaining.
christmas has been rescheduled to january 17th also.
Yea, Frank your a fighter all right except it's limited to this site, somebody is gonna find you and kick your sorry ass around the block in Huatulco one of these days and stuff what's left of you on one of those groovy cruise ships that are now visiting Huatulco to take you to Portland cause thats where they come from, Holland America Line have there corporate offices in the US, west coast,Portland Oregon. Have a nice cruise Frank.
Ever get the feeling that 60+% of my fellow Americans are feeling the same euphoria that a majority of Germans felt post-Poland and post-Czechoslovakia? Even with no WMD's found nor any connections with the Saudi attack on New York in 2001...
And this all started when some guy asked about buying a stinking car!!!!
It is to bad that this site has gotten to where it is at! It use to be a very good site for info. Of late it seems as though there are a few on this site that only want to brag about themselves or bitch about something as in the last post about a car, my god all he-she wanted to know was info not a sermon. I have noticed also the same people that do the most bragging or bitching very seldom start a new topic they only come on to see themselves in print i guess, because it sure isnt info they are passing on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Norma your friend in Monterrey gave you incorrect information. New cars are away more than that. I bought a new VW Golf in Mexico-I could have bought the same vehicle in Canada cheaper even though it was made in Mexico.
All such wonder memories and examples of why Keith and I keep returning to Mexico.
CHRYSLER ATOS BY DODGE BASE $69,900.00 - $82,400.00 VOLKSWAGEN SEDAN $76,427.00 - $77,134.00 CHEVROLET CHEVY POP $76,990.00 - $76,990.00 VOLKSWAGEN POINTER LOW COST $78,001.00 - $92,481.00 CHEVROLET CHEVY SWING $84,990.00 - $114,001.00 FORD KA BASE $89,900.00 - $89,900.00 CHRYSLER ATOS BY DODGE LUJO $90,300.00 - $104,200.00 NISSAN TSURU GSI $92,500.00 - $94,000.00 CHEVROLET CHEVY PICK UP $95,512.00 - $120,894.00 CHEVROLET CHEVY JOY F $95,901.00 - $95,901.00 FORD FIESTA $96,100.00 - $108,800.00 VOLKSWAGEN POINTER CITY $97,521.00 - $101,470.00 VOLKSWAGEN POINTER PICK UP COMFORTLINE $98,116.00 - $117,754.00 VOLKSWAGEN DERBY MI $99,900.00 - $111,448.00 VOLKSWAGEN POINTER COMFORTLINE $101,032.00 - $121,058.00 VOLKSWAGEN POINTER MI $101,474.00 - $101,474.00 CHEVROLET MONZA F $105,000.00 - $105,000.00 FORD KA HIGH $105,000.00 - $105,000.00 SEAT IBIZA SPORT $105,302.00 - $128,827.00 FORD COURIER PICK UP $107,100.00 - $107,100.00 NISSAN TSURU GSII $107,800.00 - $140,000.00 [%sig%]
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Hope it wasn't your dad.....Tony Soprano.
Chicago Frank it might have been one of the misguided missiles your country shot at Iraq. Yes and the Iraquies seem to be alien to you!
0nce they changed my tire in the middle of nowhere for free!
How do we get our compliments to the "Federale Jefe"....? I'm sure the upper mangement / politicians would appreciate seeing some of our comments. Do any of our Mexican readers have an e-mail address for this sort of thing?
Right on Dave
Roger, those numbers are a little bit staggering, surrely they are pesos(mexican) not canadian (pesos) that you are quoting. Regards Bob
Duh Bob, why would cars in Mexico be priced in Canadian funds?
roger, then I guess it's pesos although you have missed the point and my reference to the Canadian peso, however it is getting stronger agains't the US buck! Regards Bob
Bob, the bit about the Canadian peso is an old joke.
Scott, I detect a little naivete here.
We also had a very good experience with the Federales. We were on a back road between Punta Mita and Sayulita (north of Puerto Vallarta) on our way back to Rincon de Guayabitos. We had a flat tire and there was no wheel wrench anywhere on the rental jeep. My hubby started walking (there were 4 of us on this trip) to the next town, when the police came driving by. It was actually funny because when Ray stopped them and asked them if they had a wheel wrench we could use, the motioned up the road and said "Sayulita". But when they came to us 2 women (I think my brother-in-law was answering the call of nature in the bush), they stopped and helped us. The did have the wheel wrench. Meanwhile, Ray saw what was happening and walked back to us. The younger fellow did all the work, while the older one "supervised". They didn't ask for any money, but we paid them 100 pesos (in 1999). The spare tire was also half-flat. We found a tire repair shop and had it filled.
Roger if those prices are for new cars they can't be remotely right-way too low. As for why would they give them in Canadian dollars-of course not-but they are often given in US dollars.
HI NORMA, THE CORRECT ADDRESS FOR E-MAIL IS: LEGAZPI1@INSIGHTBB.COM (NOTE THE NUMBER 1 IN THE USER NAME) SORRY BARB BUT THERE ISN'T A NEWSLETTER (YET). OUR MEETINGS ARE HELD AT "BIGOTES RESTAURANT", USUALLY THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, NOVEMBER TO MARCH.
IF I CAN HELP YOU FURTHER LET ME KNOW.
RNG those are new car prices in Guadalajara. Imported models are sometimes quoted in US dollars but payment can be made in pesos. The exchange rate can be negotiated. Last week several luxury car dealers were using a 9.90 rate.
I priced a new Jetta last week, $158,000 to $180,000 depending on the options.
Ok, I have tried everything. I know that lard is involved, but what else is there other than Pinto beans that make this wonderful dish. Any ideas? The kind I like are creamy when warm, but like clay when cold.
HELLO, Would one of you folks down there please tell Vicente' and Candy I have sent them a package. I hope they get it. I have been told that sometimes packages just never get there. I hope it isn't true. I had to put a value on the package so I suppose they now have to pay customs tax on it. I hope it isn't too much. They have the jewelery shop called Sweeter Than the Morning Dew right next to Jesse's. They really helped us out the night of the earthquake in Jan. I had their telephone number but it got washed in along with my husbands wallet. THank you, Barb bshea92586@aol.com
yea Andy go figure, want to buy or sell a car and get a lecture in return, however for the most part it is all well intended, Roger gives a long list of vehicle prices, most of the manufacturer models we never see up north, think he's actually looking for a new Merzedes for himself, but are those prices that Roger listed really out of line with US costs? I never buy new cause as soon as you drive em off the lot! we'll you know! Regards Bob
This was our second trip to Barra in as many years; and we fell in love with the place. And yes the building in the center of town is a hotel. From what we understand, it will be open soon. We were in Barra in April and they had shops open on the ground floor. As for Casa Chips--it's a great place to take the sun and have a bite to eat. The staff are great and Jack, the owner, is a real great host. We met two girls from Mexico City who were staying at Casa Chips. They said it was a bit noisy, but it was during Holy Week, the busiest Mexican holiday of the year. If you want more information on Casa Chips, their web site is Casachips.com or nohans.com or nohans.ca. One of the two. You might want to check out Hotel Barra de Navidad. It looked nice and the rates weren't too bad, considering the time of year.
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Exactly why I only check this site every few weeks. Seems like some people have too much time on their hands.
Hi Barb, I am just heading into the centro and will go by their shop and give them the message. Nan
Do those prices reflect the 25 % road tax that is also charged? Maybe this is where the discrepancy lies. A good friend of mine who is an F3 recently bought a new VW, in Mexico and it cost him 25% more than in the US. I understood that this tax then reflects in used car prices.
Here is now my cuņada (sister in law) who is mexican makes them, but she uses peruanos or flor de mayo not pintos. Cook 1/2 half pound of dried beans in boiling water until they are done the way you'd eat them if you were going to eat a bowl of beans. A word on that. Clean the beans, rinse them twice in clean cold water, cover them with water so the water comes about 3 inches above the beans in the pot, do not add salt. Simmer covered or uncovered until the skins of the beans are soft, about one hour and a half to two hours depending on the beans. Now add sea salt to taste, and continue simmering until the beans are very soft and the broth is soupy. They will make better refritos if you cook them the day before and leave in the fridge overnight.
Take about three chiles de arbol, probably called dried cayenne peppers in north america, and half a medium white onion cut up, but not too finely, fry these in about 6 tablespoons of manteca (lard) or bacon fat, until the onion and chilies just start to blacken. Add the cooked beans, add a cup or so of water so the mixture is quite wet. Bring to a hard boil for about 4-5 minutes, then with a potato masher, mash the enitire mixture, add sea salt to taste and reduce, stirring the mixture until the refritos are the consistency that you want. The chiles are optional if you don't like picante. Garnish with crumbled cheese if you want to.
I cook them this way, but with canola oil and everyone likes them. However, they have more flavour and are more creamy with the manteca.
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One more thing about cooking the beans for the refritos. Cousin Lydia, who's family is from Villa Alvarez in Colima but who was born in Chicago, swears by her electric slow cooker/crock pot for cooking dried beans. She puts the 1/2 pound of cleaned and rinsed beans and water (no salt) in the slow cooker at night when she goes to bed and leaves the slow cooker set to low. In the morning she adds salt to taste, turns the slow cooker to high for a bit and the beans are done.
Hi, Sean!
I didn't realize that this Sean was you! Drop me an e-mail when you get back or give me a call, the number is 355-7140. It's in my website anyway so it's not exactly private.
There is no "road tax". There is a new car tax, ISAN and the always present IVA. The prices I posted contain both of those taxes.
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My husband Jeff and I visit Barra once or sometimes twice a year. Our favorite happy hour is at The Sunset , I think it is now called Sunset and Margaritas since they moved. Happy hour is 2 for 1 from 2-10 and Miguel the owner and his wonderful family and staff have shown us more fun and hospitality than we ever could have wished for. That is one of the many reasons we are so loyal to vacationing in Barra. They also have a big screen tv for the games that are of interest and are known for their disco tech, at least at the old location. Hopefully the new place is done and they have the pumping music system back in order with a dance floor. Very good drinks!!!!!!! Jamie Tasky
I posted a while ago, we are heading down in November for an extended stay 4-6 months but worried about our daughter being without a playmate. Is there anyone out there who plans on heading to Barra/Melaque in November who has children? Our daughter is 4. We are also thinking about Puerto Escondido but have only passed through on route to Ziplolite. I know most families don't go for such a length of time so I am looking for some input. Any Ideas? Thanks.
Don't you want her to play with little Mexican kids? There's lots of them around.
I don't think you'll have a problem meeting other families with kids, especially if you are in the area of Melaque that was mentioned on your other thread - where the beach is flat and the water calm.
Yes Roger, having her make friends with Mexican children would be absolutely wonderful. I can't think of a better way for her to learn the language and culture. Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it! Lisa
You could also get her into "kinder" while you are here. It is more like preschool and attendance is very flexible. There would be no problem getting her in. They have groups for 4 year olds. She would learn about the culture by participating in the different events like parades and dances.
Hi Barb, I delivered your message to Vincente, he was chatting with Jessie when I got there. Vincente and Jessie both say a special hello to you.
All in good fun, Jessie says he's known you for twelve years and you never sent him a package. I told him to be more helpful next earthquake and he may get a package. I also gave Vincente your e-mail address and asked him to let you know when the package arrives. He asked me how you sent the package and I told him that I assume through the post.
Roger, that sounds like a great idea, I didn't know this was possible. Do you have any idea how I can find out more information or who/where to speak to upon our arrival? I would probably like to give my daughter a couple weeks to settle in before getting her involved, our spanish is very limited.
I've been checking out the various accommodations for rent and am wondering is it nearly impossible to find a place to live at Christmas time? If our family just shows up in early November is it possible to find a place for 4 months plus? Our monthly budget for accommodation is roughly $500-700 US per month. Is this too low for a place with access to kitchen?
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Lisa for between $500 and $700 US per month your family should have no problem finding a furnished house or apartment with a kitchen. While it's true that many places are not available through the Christmas holidays, many others are. Plus, if a landlord knows that it's a four month or more rental and you won't take it if it's not available at Christmas, it may just become available. If you are arriving in November, especially early in November, you will have no problem finding something suitable for the entire time that you are here. Not everything that is available is on-line.
Thanks, ThaT jESSIE, NO WONDER EVERYONES LOVE HIM, HE IS SUCH A JOKER. Thanks for conveying the message. I sent it post as I was told that I couldnt' get any assurance that they would get it if it went UPS. Barb
I use the pressue cooker = 45 min.
hi, this is jack from casachips. i am not the owner of casachips. my wife amalia is the manager and AMALIA owns and runs the bar and restaurant. look up www.casachips.com for info on the rooms. the new hotel across the road from us will be completed this summer.
So why don't the Mexican folks all buy diesel cars if the gov't subsidizes the diesel fuel? Our little VW Jetta get 49 miles to the gal (Diesel) It's a fun car to drive it is the TDI. I understand if you need a largere car because I also have a larger car because I have to drive people around looking at houses but on trips we leave the lincoln home and drive the Jetta. We didn't have any trouble getting diesel down there at all.
Barb
well Roger you can field that one, I don't want to get beatin up.Thanks for your list of new cars in Mexico! Bob
diesel cars and small trucks are still not available here in mexico.
Th;anks,now I understand why everytime we drove up to the pumps the attendents all waved hollered at us thinking we didn't know what we were doing. Too bad that you folks can't get one there, what a savings.
Barb
look up www.ford-direct.com.mx it will give you quotes on new fords eg. ford expedition 434,100pesos MEXICAN
Just as I suspected, there is more to it than just thowing beans in a pot. I will give it a try and report back. Thank you all for the help.
Hi me again, we have the chance to come down even earlier than November maybe September or October, how is the weather at this time, we have a 4 year old to consider. Also we will fly into PV and bus down. Last time we were there we had trouble getting a 180 day entry but rather they gave us 30 days despite our requests, any advice on how to get the 180 days?
Try with fried chorizo and cheese - yum!
OH ya...
Many people find the weather in September and October too hot and humid, I like it though, the ocean is really warm and it's really nice when it rains. The air temperature cools off but the falling rain is quite warm. The rain can last for an hour or two or for a couple of days and is often accompanied by great thunder and lightening shows. Also, it's still cyclone season in September and October, it's great to go down to the beach and watch the big waves roll in if there is one going by out in the ocean. Like last year when the cyclone that hit San Blas went by the waves were coming right up onto Legazpi Street. Though, a couple of Septembers ago when we were living on the beach our patio fell into the ocean from a passing cyclone. Still, it made for an interesting evening.
By law you should have no trouble getting 180 day entry. However, even some people who speak spanish very well seem to have troubles with that. When I was at immigration renewing my FM3 last month I ran into couple from Montreal who appeared to be latin american by the way they spoke spanish. They were there extending their tourist visas because they had been given a shorter time than what they needed. The husband said that the extension cost them something like $250 pesos each and was quite angry about it as he said they had requested the amount of days they were staying when they landed. If there is a Mexican consulate near to where you live in North America it might be beneficial to speak with them.
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As far as I know, the tourist cards Americans fill out on the plane are automatically good for 180 days?? Not sure about other countries?
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The FMT or tourist cards that are handed out on the planes can be good for up to 180 days, but to the best of my recollection the specific number of days they are good for is left blank on the form. The blank space for the number of days they are good for is in the Official Use Only portion of the form. The immigration officials fill in the number of days, and are supposed to do so based on the amount of time the person is planning on staying in Mexico, up to 180 days. From what I've heard they seem to fill in 180 days fairly automatically at land crossings, but also based on what people have told me they seem inclined to fill in 30 days at the airports. Probably because so many tickets are sold on a four week or less return basis. I think that charging to extend an FMT up to 180 days is fairly recent. In the past five years I've gone into Manzanillo with a few friends to extend their time and they were not charged.
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When you get your tourist cards on the airplane, fill in 180 days yourself on all cards. This saves a trip to Manzanillo, red tape and sounds like some pesos..
I agree that Tlaquepaque is touristy and pricy but the architecture of the beautiful homes which are convertet into stores is great. They used to be summer houses from rich merchants. There is a nice clean and very reasonable B & B called POSADA DE LA MEDIA LUNA. The owner - Josefina - speaks english.
I always buy in TONALA which is 15 min from Tlaquepaque. The whole town is doing beautiful pottery and the prices are right.
Barb, how much did you pay for your VW JETTA Diesel in the States?
Frank complaining doesn't quite say it all- whinning is a better word.--lol-lol--- From my perspective some Canadians go around with blinders on--If the Talaban and Bin Laden where to defeat the U.S. they would problably head North--See they believe they should run the world--but the Canadians,if I'm not mistaken have a government program to combat that--lol
go for it! put a nice picture of Barra on there too.
But the government is keeping very good records of temporary importation permits, and if you do not return the permit at the border do not expect to be allowed to bring another vehicle into the country. Also, they require to remove the decal from the windshield, to prevent the selling of the vehicle and just returning the permit.
Get over it. It is just advice. Don't be a jerk.
We paid $9,900 from a private party and it's 1998. Barb
I don't understand how the Villas Azul can make a go of it when they charge so much and the vacancy rate is so high in Barra. We took a look at it March and it looked really nice, but there was no body staying there. Would definitely consider staying there if there rates were more reasonable.
The manager shoudl read these e-mails and then maybe he would get the hint.
Garth
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Beachfront condo for rent in Barra. 3 bedrooms, 1 bath, full kitchen, all amentities. Sleeps 6-8 e-mail me for more info.
Hi: The rates are 270 per week for non ocean front and 330 for the ocean front. American money. Thank You
Does anyone know if anyone has any African Grey Parrots for sale around Melaque.
Thanks Rooster
Bob in BC is no angel either.
For well over a month this thread lay there dead and rotting, as it deserved. SPAM who has too much time on his hands starts to beat this dead horse. The horse stays dead but he suceeds in waking up Yoko "oh no" who takes it on herself to stick a barb in the side of Bob in BC. HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!
You guys really need to get a hobby that doesn't involve exposeing yourselves in public.
I dont know about that area, but there is a group in Zihuatanejo that collects unwanted animals. I have seen other birds in there ready for adotion. I will try to find the name for you.
I just feel so badly everytime I read it in the news about your young people being found in the desert dead. Today the news told about some people trying to cross the border and being found in some trailer that was locked up and in this heat it wasn't good. I hope you all encourage your young people not to try to cross the border illegally. it is just such a chance to take. My heart goes out to every mother and father down that may have lost a family member once again. Thank youo, Barb
Barb, have you ever been hungry? Not as in ready for a meal, but as in not having had food for days and not having any money nor hopes of getting any? Have you noticed that food in the markets of Mexico is damned near as expensive as it is in the States? Did you know that the minimum wage in Mexico is less than $5US PER DAY? And even at that, many are unemployed? Have you seen unloved and unwanted children sleeping under park benches? The ejido system is dying and the factory farms are squeezing out subsistence farmers. The fields are being contaminated by genetically modified crops. Farmland near the border is suffering ecological tragedies, often from pollution produced by the maquiladora system. Despite our jingoistic rhetoric, people aren't giving their life savings to wade that river because they prefer our POLITICAL system. It's a matter of survival and the risks some are forced to take. Talk to a migrant, undocumented farm hand sometime and be prepared to be heartbroken over what you learn. Or at least learn enough Spanish to understand the lyrics of the popular music.
Society of Animal Protection-Zihuatanejo.
What would the US be without mexican workers? Who would work in the fields for low wages? Why not making it possible for these people to work in the States? These people are often treatet like dirt - it is a shame!
Hey, the other John and I mentioned farm workers, but a huge proportion of concrete work and masonry in the US is also done by highly skilled, often undocumented workers. Were it otherwise, you might not have been able to affoard the home you live in.
Oh for the love of God....why can't an individual express empathy and sadness for such a tragic event, without people soapboxing and prattling off on some diatribe. I too, feel so sorry for the loss of life and the families who are left to grieve.
To John who e-mailed me regarding this rental, I am unable to send you back an e-mail. It keeps getting returned as undeliverable. The condo is available for the time you want. Maybe you can try again e-mailing me. thanks.
Lee, the empathy aspect is understood. But the reality also must be addressed.
Lonely Planet has included the beaches of Barra de Navidad, Boca de Iguanas and Tenecatita to their list of nine favorite beaches along the pacific coast. The list appears in the newly released travel guide, "Mexico's Pacific Coast", that covers a distance from north of Mazatlan to south of Oaxaca, a distance of over a thousand miles.
0h I feel so sorry does not cut it! I feel sorry for the dead Iraquis too...
I WOULD AGREE WITH THEIR CHOICES.....HOWEVER.... I would ask what criteria they used for their choices. EZ swimming, poor surfing, palapa dining, nitelife, incredible views and sunrises (sunsets). This is a terribly subjective selection...an objective review (inc. comments) might help validate their choices.....Melaque Miguel
Re: Hotel San Felipe....Melaque area Felipe understands what a down turn in the tourist business means. It means buckling down and making the most of what you have to offer. His place is upgrading dramatically to take advantage of his great beachfront property (in Villa Obregon)...all of the bay is great, of course! Check his place out....new garden swimming pool (full size) going in with floating palm trees....4 new palapas on the waterfront (set in a new beach area)....prices are staying at old levels for all rooms....revitalized lounge and resaurant is serving up invigorated goodies....a new game room and game master is in the works. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. This is an attitude the tourist industry needs. Not the attitude that my sister encountered two days ago at a beachside restaurant...."you want to dine here? Okay, but you must also pay for the table you are sitting at." No thanks.... Serve up something creative ..... take care of the folks and they will take care of you !! Melaque Miguel
The disclaimer read: With all the fabulous playas (beaches) along this coast...... desolate beaches. party beaches, busy beaches, nude beaches, endless beaches, empty beaches, and itty bitty sheltered beaches.....it's almost silly to attempt to name the best. But here are some of our favorites: [%sig%]
How long does this have to go on and on, I guess none of those with the scarastic comments have ever lost a child. Yes, I do feel sorry for those parents. Children are a gift.
"Lee, the empathy aspect is understood. But the reality also must be addressed." Hey John, Fess up, did you steal that line from the Rev. Jesse Jackson?
How long must it go on? As long as there are borders and oportunity isn't equal on both sides. Woody Guthrie wrote a wrenching song called "Deportees". Joe Ely covered it on the "Los Superseven" album. It shows how little things have change when it comes to "givin' all your money to wade back again." At the beginning of this administration, there were sweeping plans between Shrub and Fox to drastically reform immigration law. But that was before an Attorney General consumed with moral reform - covering the tits on government statues - ignored warnings of people learning to fly without learning to take off or land; and before Rove and the political handlers decided that perpetual war was the best way to ensure re-election - even if the victims had nothing to do with the crimes. At this point, what's a few more deaths when the 2004 elections are at stake? Somebody look at those satelite photos again. How come the lines we call borders don't show up and the countries aren't each a different color like they are on the maps?
Tell it Reverend!!!
Any unattributed stolen lines were ripped off inadvertently. 'Sides, I think it was Mandellas's!
Does Barra have decent surfing conditions this time of the year? (May) Also, could anyone recommend a decent (clean) place to stay near (walking distance) the waves?
One more thing, I heard there's no direct bus service from Manzanilo Airport terminal to Barra, is this true? I am concerned because I will have a big surfborad bag.
I am trying to find a nice place to stay for a few days until my friends arrive. They have no idea I will be in Mex as I told them I could not make it out from NYC but hope of surprise them as it's one of the guy's 30th b-day celebration trip.
Thank you for all your help.
Okey, it worked, I made them on Sunday with homemade tomales and ceviche. YUM!
Hey there! I think I might be able to help you with your questions. I just spent two weeks in Barra (April 22nd, to May 8th) and I had a great time. The first night there we stayed at this place called Mama Laya's because the taxi driver reccommended it and it was awful. But the next night we looked around and we found a much better place called the Posada Pacifico. It's just right around the corner from the bus station. We paid $18 USD per night for two people. The rooms were basic but very clean. We had two queen size beds, balcony, bathroom, ceiling and portable fans. And it's about a 5 minute walk from the Jetty (where the surfing is). Another place you could check out is Alice's Restaurant (ask for Carlos Limon) it's very close to the Jetty and he has rooms he rents out to surfers. He had no availability when we were there however. If you want to know about surfing I can't tell you anything for sure. While we were there, somedays there were good waves and somedays there was nothing. It is a good spot for beginners because the waves are fairly gentle, and it is probably better if you have a longboard, but I don't think you will have a problem getting some surf. If you want a good place to eat lunch, I would really recommend a place called Karina's. It;'s just a little stand with stools set up in the pedestrian square. She makes amazing tortas (mexican sandwiches), and licuados (milkshakes), and it's very affordable. Good luck with your trip, and let me know if I've been any help.
Taxies are about $30 ... you have no other choice. If the small taxies can't take the board - they have vans for about $50. Barra is not an ideal surf beach because the bay faces south instead of west. Moderate surf at times and often nothing. Can't comment on summer tho.
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Hey that's great!! And you made tamales too!!! You're much more ambitious than I am. Nan
It's true there are no buses from the airport and the taxi fares quoted are correct. You will probably need one of the Suburban taxis for the board and they are the expensive ones. However the taxis charge a flat fee by zone. If you are on a really tight budget it may be less expensive to just take a taxi to the bus station in Cihuatlan, a bus from there to Barra is only seven or eight pesos. The taxi rates by zone are posted in the airport.
The surfing here is as described year round, the waves get slightly larger at times in September and October but not much unless a cyclone is going by out at sea. If you are an experienced surfer looking for big waves or smaller ones that you can get a good long ride out of you might be disapointed here. The waves are not large and they don't have much momentum after the break. Better waves can be found year round south of Barra in Michoacan State and about 30km north at El Tecuan, there is no bus service to El Tecuan though.
The Posada Pacifico is clean and affordable and has hot water, it's about seven blocks from the surfing beach. The Caribe, just two blocks from the surfing beach is about the same.
Playa del Oro out by the airport usually has some decent waves as does the beach on the other side of the pink elephant on Isla de Navidad. But you'd BETTER be good - there's not only any services, emergency or otherwise, but there's unlikely to even be any witnesses...
On a visit to Tenacatita in March,we noticed two of these snakes washed up on the beach.The snakes are easy to identify as they have a paddle like tail,yellow belly and a dark upper body.Their venom is stronger than that of a cobra.The good news is their lack of aggression.Most bites occur to commercial fishermen who catch them in their nets.While washed up on the beach,the snake may appear to be dead but might only be resting.Its probably a good idea to watch where you are walking and to make sure that children are aware of the potential danger.According to my limited research,the snakes generally stay in deeper waters but storms will beach them.I havent seen one in the water while snorkelling at Tenecatita.
Do they have spots? I saw to live ones on the beach in Zihuatanejo with spots.
The tail has a distinctive yellow/black diamond shape colouration.
Hey you guys you havent been smoking anything funny while you were down in mexico, now have you, hope you had a great time, adios
7 pesos from Cihuatlan
Thanks Dave for the clever response.
Monica...is this the monica that was travelling with Jasmin????? If so, hey, this is michelle from van. island..remember i was travelling with my red headed friend katy. Just wanted to say hi, hope the rest of your trip was great! adios!
I never smoke the snakes in Mexico....they are much too wet to light.
Hard to beat the popularity of the 'Tomzap' site, but 'yall might want to have a look at Mexico Mac's new message board at the 'Costalegre' site. www.costalegre.ca
ya, kinda like mounting fish, would'nt that be a bit slippery and smelly? I bet it is illegal in most parts of Utah too. hahahah. But really, I did see 2 yellow snakes with black spots. I bent down to pick one up and my husband yanked me away. Then he reminded me that all sea snakes are dealy. I wonder if they may have been eels.
That yellow bellied sea snake is the most common sea snake in the oceans. It ranges from Australia, asia, east Africa to western Mexico. They are very poisonous, but are not usually aggressive. Their scientific name is Pelamis Platures. I used to see them at Puerto Escondido all the time. I even caught one once on a spinning rig on Marinero beach. As to their bite, it is more potent than a cobra and is neurotoxic. Hope this helps.
YIKES! good thing my hubby grabed me when he did. The snakes seemed to be mating, could account for their distraction in getting washed ashore huh?
It's working ??? Yeah!
is this a set up or what?
Hola marlene, It's not in the same league where you last stayed, but is decent and less money. There are often lots of screaming kids though, otherwise okay.
I have something BAD to say about Maya too. They close in the summer and leave me stranded for some great cuisine!
What is the rent on this place?
As some one who has been going to Bara for twenty years my only coment is to go now while it is still cute and quant and if you are looking for a condo to rent Email me, for my money it is the best way to see Barra, because you have your own home with air conditioning and a swimming at a very low price.
Go to Barra and just enjoy it. We have stayed at the Barra De Navidad Hotel many times and on the second floor when we can get it as you get a fantastic view. The real bonuse is Bananna's being in there now. What a plus for the place. It is always nice to have reservatioins for the first night when traveling. SO make them for there and then if it isn't up to your standards shop the area. Tourists are quick to let you know where the good place are to eat, sleep etc. I wish I was there now as it is 95 degrees in my house tonight and we don't have air conditioning. Whew! Barb
I have been going to Barra for at least over twenty years and what I have to say about Barra is now is the time to go because each year it is getting more like just another place to go and it is loosing a little more charme each time but ity is still a slice of HEVEN.
We were booked to stay there several years ago. We stayed a couple nights and checked out. Found a lovely, quiet place in Melaque. I know a lot of people rave about the Hotel Barra de Navidad but we couldn't get out of there fast enough. We had an ugly room on the street side. Our room was so hot (in December); the pool was over-run by kids; the noise at night was really bad - we couldn't sleep; a couple rooms had been robbed - It was a nightmare. I was ready to go home, but we checked out Melque and I'm thankful we did. I will say that the management was really kind in giving us our money back for the days we were not there. I certainly did not expect that, but I know they filled our rooms right away since it was over the Christmas holiday. We were on the street side. The ocean view rooms looked much nicer, but don't get one on the ground level if you decide to stay there because of theft.
Does anybody know if crazy cactus has a website? Also any other comments about Casa de Marco? Also is there any obstruction in front of Casa de Marco to obstruct the ocernview? Marlene
Da Marlene.
Look at the posting just before yours from Jack with the Web Site. Only kidding about the Da.
Garth
I plan on being in Barre de Navidad the first week of september. I think I will be flying into Guadalajara, what can anyone tell me about, renting a car and driving down to Barre de Navidad and what is the Hotel Caribe like? has anyone stayed at the Hotel Jalisco?
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Stan: Unless you really 'gotta' have a car, the bus system would be a better transportation bet. First class busses are very frequent, and luxurious. It would let you enjoy a great Mexican tour, without the 'white-knuckle syndrome'. Should be lots of hotels/bungalows in Melaque and Barra at that time...lots of choices.
Tenecatita is being converted into a bus friendly, easy to turn around via a new road, lots of space to park place that is starting to be overwhelmed by tour buses from Guadalajara. On saturday, May 24th we counted 37 buses with each one easily seating 44. That's 1628 people. Yikes!
Hi Sandy, whereabouts is the little studio you mention? say in relation to the sands hotel or the church or the french restaurant with palapa roof?
Bob, FYI, I have been to many bonfire, weenie roasts in Melaque. The locals call it a lunada(sp) And the food is different, but there is lots of singing, a guitar pull, etc, and is wonderful fun. If you are friends with lots of locals, perhaps you can get lucky and go to one. Experience I shall never forget!!! Instead of hotdogs, they bury potatoes, and sometimes fish, whatever, and of course the tequilla and beer flow. Just ask around!
Yes, takes longer to cook anything in Mexico, where meals are an event, and cooking is considered an art! Love it! Sure ferfreshing from our fast food paradise north of the border!
Tell me it's not true! I guess Jesse could start up a a satellite shop over there. He could buy a lot of sandals with that many tourist buying jewelery Barb
I was speaking with the owner of the new Hotel Alondra yesterday, he says that he hopes to open for business sometime in August but that it might be September.
Who is the owner Nan?
My husband and I along with our very young children and my mom and dad are considering driving down to Melaque in January for a couple of months. We will be hauling our travel trailers down and wanted some info on the trailer parks there. I would prefer beach front and full hook-ups. Any help would be appreciated.
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The trailer/R.V. park that is in town and beachfront(not all spaces are beachfront) charges 3500 pesos per month according to their sign.I have no idea if this is negotiable or not.It appears to have full hookups.There is also another trailer park a few blocks from the town centre (towards Bara) that is also on the beach.I walked through a really nice trailer park in Boca Iguanas that is also on the beach...would be a nice place to stay if you didnt want to be in a town.
Yes isnīt it sad to see Mexicans enjoy beaches that belong to them.Willie you would probably rather just see a couple of Mexicans at Tenacatita serving you food and drinks. Regards R p.s. the bus thing is nothing new its been going on for years
Well, dont be so impressed with my cooking. I made the beans and the ceviche, but a kind Mexican Lady in my church made the tomales. I know when I am beat...
Christinna its TAMALES and yes, I draw a line here too....
Willie, the buses are not exclusive to Tenacatita, they also show up in places like barra, melaque and other points south and north, they own those beaches as well! bob
Here is a link to Trailer Park information in Melaque. http://www.costalegre.ca/Melaque_Trailer_Camping.htm I also saw an RV parked in the Las Palmas complex here in Barra this year, it's gone now so I assume it was someone renting space. People also rented a space for their tent trailer on the grounds of the Hotel Sands here in Barra this year. They were parked behind the hotel, by the lagoon just over from the swimming pool in an grassy area behind the big gates to the parking lot. I doubt that they have sewer hookups at either of these but probably have electricity. I can ask for you when I am out and about if you are interested.
There are several campgrounds without hookups in La Manzanilla and Boca de Iguanas as well.
So much anger on this site......
No Nan, they don't rent RV spaces in Las Palmas. The vehicle was parked on the owner's (RV) property.
My wife and I are looking for a one or two bedroom condo/house/apartment for 3 months commencing January. We would like something on the beach with a swimming pool. It must be clean and have all necessary equipment for rentersso that we do not have to bring anything with us. If anyone has the name of such a place please let us know. We would also appreciate a phone number and cost per month. Thank-you
The owner's name is "Don" Juan, and the administrator who's overseeing the construction is also Juan.
And you had the conversation with the don or the overseer?
I am really a first timer. My wife and I are taking our vacation sometime in mid June. I'd like to go to Barra de Novidad. However, I don't even know how to get to Barra from Los Angeles! We know we have to take a plane to Manzanillo Airport. But is there an airline that flies directly to Manzanillo Airport from LA? If not, what city do I fly to from Los Angeles to get to Barra? What airline? I'd appreciate your help very much so that we can start packing. Thanks a lot! Maurice [%sig%]
Alaska Air flies directly to Manzanillo from the west coast. At least it did last time I heard...
You fly in to Manzanillo......about 3 hours from LA and then catch a cab to Barra de Navidad which costs 290 pesos when you purchase a ticket just inside the airport.
It is wonderful to be at Tenacatita on Mexican holidays and see all the families at the beach for the day........very festive. You didn't think all those palapa restaurants could make a living on the 20 or so tourists that make it there any other days did you. Vendors do show up and sell their wares. Some of the most fun I've had bargaining have been from these beach vendors on those days.
Hi Roger, a question to ask you, do you live in barra and is your wife's name Gail?
Beer Bob's Book Exchange in Barra de Navidad is in the process of moving from their old location to #8 Tampico also in Barra.
I always fly AeroCalifornia directly from LAX to ZLO. They have daily departures as far as I know, leaving LAX at 1-something pm and arriving in Manzanillo around 6:30 pm. I've always found AeroCal's prices to be a bit lower than Alaska Air's, plus they have a smoking section and free beer. America West also flies twice a week between LAX and ZLO, although they do suspend service during the summer months. Buen viaje!
2 bedroom house, on the beach in Villa Obregon #1 Calle Reforma - Casa Rosa very clean...everything you need. A nice pool.
Write to Marthe Frazer and ask for more info her e-mail is: zacateros@yahoo.com
Why do you ask?
Roger, do you live in Barra, have a wife named Rosa, and drive a pretty yellow panga?
Roger, do you live in Barra, Melaque, San Pantricio or Villa Obregon and do you drive a yellow taxi cab and what is the difference between a shrimp and a fish? Regards Bob
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roger, i thought i might have met you at one of lulu's and gordys partys in barra
Why is Bob moving. Is everything OK. See you in about three weeks.
Viv.
Hard to know when to be friendly and open - eh roger.
Yes Luz, it is one of life's greatest mysteries.
OK for all the enquiring minds....I am not married to Gail nor Rosa, I don't own a yellow boat, yellow taxi. The difference between shrimp and fish is that shrimp cost more. I've never attended a party of Gordon and LuLu, was it fun?
I don't really know why he is moving but everything seems to be okay with him and he's very happy with the new place. It's only about four blocks away from his old place. He even posed for a photo at the new house yesterday. The new place is larger and brighter and it's on the canal that backs on to Barra Centro. The house has lots of windows, stairs up to a roof deck, plus on the ground floor there is more garden space with more light than he had before. There is an attached garage with a large garage door where he will have the book exchange.
Thanks Rog - when is your next party. This could be a good thing!
Boy are we WAY overdue!!!!! We were watching this website daily prior to our trip to Melaque and while intending to post this immediately upon our return got sidetracked by real life. So here are our comments......just a bit late..... We stayed in Melaque for 9 days in mid march and ate at just about every restaurant on the beach in Melaque/San Patricio and many in Barra. We also spent oour last night at an all-inclusive in Manzanillo. Of all the Beachfront restaurants we visited, and there were many....I gained 7 lbs on vacation....Restaurant Maya had THE best food by far and the prices were comperable to or slightly less than many. As for the service, our first night there they were swamped. Every table was full and the staff was definately pressed. But despite the crowd, we had several people repeatedly attempting to re-light the torches/candles at our beach side table that refused to stay lit due to the heavy winds. These folks would not give up until we suggested that perhaps we could move closer in. They immediately moved us to a new table, lit the candles, and our food came soon after. We had a phenomenal meal, with excellent service, especially considering that the place was continually packed from 7pm-10pm when we left. We went back twice. Once for dinner and since it was much quieter, service was very quick and the food just as good as the first time.
The last time we went just for some wine before heading out for dinner elsewher. Not only did we have EXCELLENT appetizers, rivaling anything from the metro Seattle area, but phenomenal attention. We sat at the bar and got great info on the area, driving conditions, and when we were leaving, not only got directions to a great place to go for inexpensive tacos, but received a lift to Rosa's taco stand from the bartender, who happens to be the owners son. Everyone we talked to at Maya, including numerous members of the cooking staff/waitstaff, had nothing but positive things to say about the place and morale appeared to be very high. I know what we tipped here vs. other places we ate and based on level of service/food/ambiance, it was substantially higher than your basic US 15%. These are employees that were the best we had in Melaque/Barra, and I would love to have had at my restuarant in the Seattle market which tells me that they would not have too much trouble finding work elsewhere if they were not happy where they are. Hey .....this is just one couple's opinion, but we had a great time down there and want to thank restaurant maya for being a big part of it. Keep up the great work! Jane & Adam [%sig%]
After hearing rumors that Hotel Royale Costa Sur had perhaps been remodeled/renovated we were hoping to stay a day or two in the area because the town is very quiet and quaint. We took a cab over from Melaque for the day during the Benito Juarez holiday and the hotel was very disappointing. We couldn't even get a beer. No restaurant or bar was open. We enjoyed the area for the day but wouldn't go back. We heard rumors that it might be for sale but that there were issues with property titles so it might take awhile before it changes hands. Lots of opportunity for the hotel and the town so hopefully, the sale will go through.
Places for rent in quiet, laid back La Manzanilla just 10 mles north of Barra de Navidad on Bahia de Tenacatita at: www.mexicomexico.info Adios!
am thinking of a trip to barra de navidad....manzanillo???? what is difference? we like very laid back places. we do not like "hotel zones" per say. we like beach walking, cold cervezas served to us on beach w/ our own palapa.....very relaxing. dinner and drinks...any help? any info? have not done much research yet. any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated! thanks in advance. oh, last year for our winter getaway we were in troncones for 4 days and zihua for 1 day and loved the authentic laid back feel of both. would like something along those same lines. we do not like cancun.
Hi, we want to spend an extended period of time in Colima, but can't find any recent information about the earthquake damage etc. or whether it would be possible to rent a small furnished apartment. Anyone have any recent information? Thanks Bernie
Manzanillo is a rather ugly industrial port city, for the most part, with some lovely hotels and resorts on the end closest to...Barra de Navidad. Barra is a lovely small town but a little short on true ocean-front accomodations if that is your cup of tea. SanPatricio Melaque is in sight of La Barra; while the streets are a little rougher, it does have more small beachfront accomodations. My advice: forget Manzanillo other than as the name of the airport into which you are flying. If you come in too late to check out hotels in both communities, grab a room for the night at Posada Pacifico or someplace else economical and choose the accomodations for the balance of your trip on the next day.
I would recommend La Manzanilla which is about 1 hour north of Manzanillo. Look it up on the internet at www.lamanzanilla.info/. Here you have a very unspoilt village and a walking beach to die for. Also a variety of accommodations and prices. The people are brilliant too. NO banks, postoffice etc. Just perfect.
The earthquake damage was minimal. Everything is long back to normal.
I would suggest to go early in the morning to the Tianguis on Thursday or Sunday in Tonala. At noon there are thousands of people and it is getting really hot right now in Guadalajara aerea.
I tend to agree with John about Melaque. More variety in Melaque and you are in between Barra and La Manzanilla (very small town north). The real small town feeling is here - not Manzanillo.
However, there is much to see in and around Manzanillo with a larger variety options. If you like the small town feeling then Santiago is you only option around Manzanillo. Benefits of Manzanillo, major store shopping, good surf, variety of resturants and night life, better scuba.
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I see the origin of this post is before I visited Tlaquepaque ... I was there in March after spending three weeks in Patzcuaro.
If you like a big city environment with the "Rodeo Drive" label ... then Tlaquepaque may be for you (obviously this is for other people at this point). There are very nice arts/crafts shops but the stuff is above my budget and the difficult stuff to ship/bring home. They have many blocks of pedestrian only streets, an odd plaza with a restaurant taking up most of it. Kinda cool, just that everything is sky high prices including the taxies and resturants (30% service tax thrown on one meal - never had that happen in Mexico before).
You can find a nice hotel for good price if you absolutely have to visit. Media Luna Hotel on the corner of the plaza si abotu $25 us and very nice.
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For a large selection of accommodations in La Manzanilla go to www.lamanzanillamexico.info!
I loved Colima, went for 2 days and spent a week. there was so much to do there and it was so pretty. I took in a rodeo, a fair and the swimming pool, which was great. Lots of side trips. for a city, it is marvellous.
Hola y Salud Is there anyone in Barra right now who would be able to drop by Lucy's Paradise- corner of Yucatan and Vera Cruz (across from Velaros) and give a message to Lucy for me? If so, please email me back. Thanks so much, gracias.
I'm here, just in front
Hi Carlos...I've actually tried to email you but don't know if you received them. Please let Lucy know that we are looking for cheap flights, and that we miss her and Gil very much. Maybe you could convince her to get her own email at your place. Thanks and cheers, Lee We will try to call her soon. Gracias
Lee: I think your in BC? If it's a quick trip your after, escapes.ca has 1or 2 week flights today from YVR to PVR for $179 plus the constant $206 in taxes. Still not bad @ $385 total pp. If you wait till early Tuesday morning for travel the following Saturday they drop again, sometimes as low as $99. SUPPORT CANADIAN CHARTERS. The more flights sold, means more last minute deals.
This question is for Nan Do you know about this Hotel in Colima `` Hotel Madero av FRANCISCO I MADERO nO 165 `` OR will you recommend Hotel Ceballos /Centro I will be visiting Melaque in January for 3 months and I would like to visit Colima also . I am travelling alone so I look for more secure places Thank -you for your time Lucy [%sig%]
Thanks for the travel info Spoolmak....but we are actually looking for flights for our friend Lucy to visit Canada! Good to have the info you passed on though. Cheers
Hi Lucy, I don't personally know the Hotel Madero in Colima, it's listed as a budget hotel in the mexico en bicicleta web site but they have no details. I have stayed at the Ceballos and found it to be just lovely. A friend of mine and her young daughter stayed at the Hotel Merced a couple of years ago when she and I went up to Colima for the day to shop and she decided to stay on for a couple of days and explore. We looked at about four rooms in the Merced before she found one that she felt was suitable, but it was a lot cheaper than the Ceballos.
I am sure to be up in Colima again long before January so I will drop by the Madero for you and check it out.
Thank-you Nan . Very nice of you . Lucy
Hola Carlos...I left a note posted on the board under ' looking for friend' that you responded to. I have been unable to email you for whatever reason....just not going through. If you check on that last post, you could pass the message along to Lucy at Lucy's Paradise for me. Thanks again. Gracias
On the home page in the list of topics at the top was a note that Barra de Navidad had just received its first cruise ship. When I clicked on the link the Barra page came up and there is no mention of cruise ships that I could find.
Whats going on with that? Other than anchoring off shore and shuttleing in the tourists in launches I can't see how it could be done.
I've been watching the Hatulco page and they aren't too excited about the new docks there for the ships, I guess it is already impacting the diving on the reefs there.
Anyway, any information on this would be appreciated.
Staying warm in Arkansas, Connie and Andy
Damn! I guess it was bound to happen. Hopefully, the beach vendors made off with a bunch of their $$$$.
How far is it to go on to Tonala from Colima. And for that matter how long is it to drive from Melaque to Colima. Interested in heading over that way when we next go down.
You mentioned (on a post below that the Media Luna) is a nice place to stay in Tlaquepaque. How close to the center or the plaza is it located? We stayed at Villa Del Ensueno several years ago and did not like the distance we had to walk late at night to get to the hotel from the plaza. Looking for something VERY close. Did you see any other places you would recommend? Thank you Sandy
No Sandy ... I really saw no other hotels ... but then again the Media Luna is easy to miss. It is right on one corner of the plaza (above a bank-maybe Bital) but the entrance is about 5 doors down around the corner (green metal gates). The corner is where the two one-way streets come together (one of the two arches). The place is very relaxed, cable TV, includes breakfast in the courtyard. I had a room away from the street and heard nothing.
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Tonala is in Guadalajara and is about 4 hours beyond Colima. Colima is about an hour and a half from Melaque.
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Tonala is about 2 1/2 hours from Colima. It is a 4 hour drive from Melaque to Guadalajara.
That's exactly what they did, they anchored in the bay and shuttled people over to Grand Bay in one of their yellow covered boats. Apparently a couple of people made their way into Barra but most stayed over at Grand Bay, or so says Jessie. The ship was called The World, registered out of Nassau but I was told that it was a Norweigan ship. It did not have any markings that would indicate that it was from one of the major cruies lines though.
The cruise ship industry as a whole usally does not help a region that much unless it is a year round deal. take s.e. alaska where i live they come in for 5 months and the people that supply the trinkets etc for the region are usually not local, nor are about 85% of what they sell, when the ships leave so do the people that rent the shops and leave the locals to try on living on 5 months work for 12 months. Im not really bitching, but the CRUISE SHIP industry is a double bladed sword, you have to watch out for what you wish for, as it may happen.
Sparks in Seattle, Thank you for the information. Sounds like this hotel couldn't get any closer to the plaza. There was another place I saw on line. It's operated by the same people who run Villa del Ensueno. It would cost 80-90 per night. It's called Quinta Don Jose. Looks very nice, but it's a little steep for us since we will also paying for and holding another room in Melaque while we're in Tlaquepaque - It just has to be that way unless they can rent our Melaque place for the 2 or 3 nights we will be in Tlaquepaque. Anyway, we're not looking for anything extravagant - just clean, safe and relatively 'nice'. Thanks again Sandy Washington State
The cruise ship/ floating condominiums named " The World" is currently traveling to 40 countries and 140 cities this year. More can be found here ... www.residensea.com [%sig%]
yes, the World is the floating condominium for the rich and famous, kinda like a time share, only it floats, great concept if you got unlimited funds but it's kinda like being on a perpetual carribean cruise, one port of call every second day for 6 hours, that's quality time? bob
Bob, I'm sure that pulling into the bay, riding the yellow launch to the Grand Bay, having a $75.00 (US) lunch, buying a $30.00 (US) t-shirt, and returning to the ship was a rewarding cultural experience for most of them. Some of them may have even waved to a real Mexican on the jetty as they went by. Kind of gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, doesn't it.
You know Andy & Connie, the Grand Bay is a real Mexican hotel, with real Mexican employees and located on real Mexican soil. What makes the place any less Mexican? You can't afford it?
Guess what Roger, we stay in a real Mexican hotel, OWNED by Mexicans, with all the other stuff you mentioned AND lots of real genuine, honest to God Mexican guests too. Thats the big difference. By the way, you are correct, I can't afford it, not that it makes it any more or less Mexican.
Who owns the Grand Bay?
So let's hear it Andy & Connie, what makes something a REAL Mexican cultural experience?
Roger, This will be my last post on this, even though I started it. If you spent 4 hours inside the MGM Grand in Las Vegas would you be able to walk out and say "There I've been to the U.S. now, and I'm not sure I like it." If a person wants to travel, and at the same time insulate himself from what's actually there, it's a personal choice. There is no doubt that your sense of reality and mine are different. I am usually one of the people that bitches when one of these P****ing contests gets going on this site, and here I get sucked into one. I was trying to have a little fun and you took it WAY TOO serious.
Christinna, I got this recipe from Phil Garcia at Los Pelicanos 10 or 12 years ago. She starts with what she called Pot Beans. Wash and clean the beans and cook in water till tender (she stressed lots of water and no salt) when tender add salt and cook for 10 more minutes.
For her refried beans she took 4 cups of drained pot beans, 1/2 cup of beef broth, 1/2 cup of lard (there it is but she said you could us Veg. oil) and one Tbs of Chicken bouillon. In a large pot heat the beans in the oil and add everything else. Mash them till all the liquid is absorbed. If you want them more creamy add bean broth from the pot beans, not water.
Every recipe is a little different but this always makes great refried beans.
Connie
Andy, does one go to Vegas to gamble or to learn about American culture? Does everyone who goes to visit Mexico go for the culture or do they go for another reason? You are quick to criticize the people on the cruise boat but what about all of the people that go to Melaque just to escape the cold Canadian winter? Then they hang with other foreigners at businesses run by foreigners that cater to foreigners. Some could give a flying frijol about the local culture, all they want is a cheap tan and bitch endlessly at the prices. Do they give you a warm fuzzy feeling? You were just trying to have fun you say. I guess criticizing others is your idea of fun.
Hi Roger, i think maybe a little prozack might help you a little bit "Chill Out" life is to short to really worry about such inane things, hope you have a nice day in barra, as im having a nice day in alaska, Adios Dave
The Leaņo family (sorry about the spelling, Juan Pablo) owns both the Grand Bay and the Cabo Blanco. Just a generation ago, they were NOT rich folk. They are most assuredly Mexican.
Hey Dave, You know where you can put the prozac.
John W. They most assuredly were rich a generation ago.
Hi Roger, yes i know where to put it, now Roger will you bend over so i can put it where it will do the most good, adios again have a nice day in barra!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You speak as if you have experience in these type of affairs. Lonely in Alaska?
Roger, your gettin on that high horse that you ocassionally climb on, look all level of vacationerers bring pesos to barra, melaque and all those other neat locations, all to many to list, get off the grand bay experience, it's way too much money for most of us on this site, and frankly the place does not appeal to me even if I could afford it. The fact it employes locals is quite obvious, but they do quote rack rate in US funds and pay employees in pesos. Rack rate is around $250 US per night, for a simple low end room, I believe! So the benificiary here is who? Bob
Bob, the place stays nearly empty much of the time, so I'm not sure who the beneficiaries are.
john, so true, we met a nice young couple on the street in Barra who were staying at the grand bay and guess what they were looking for, they were looking for directions to other places to see, eat at, visit! Directed them to the bus to Melaque, LaManz and points west. We saw them a few day's later in Melaque, needless to say thay won't be staying at the Grand Bay again, they found some real places to stay on their next vacation in Mexico. Not knocking the Grand Bay Resort, however I think the opporative word is "Resort" Kinda like being on a cruise ship! Bob
Well for anyone interested, I can usually be found at the newest edition of the Cri Cri in Jaluco. Just ask for Rogelio, I'll buy the first beer and we'll have a REAL Mexican culture experience.
Sounds like the Prozac is starting to kick in, eh, Roger? Or are you smoking? Seems to be working, whatever it is. I understand your angst. It's that time of year down there when the x-pats get restless. Happens every year at this time. And not just the x-pats. Think of those Real Mexican business owners who have no income in the off-season. The bars are empty. I'll bet that stuff yer smokin' is good and cheap these days! And, folks, let's not forget who the real Mexicans are. They're the ones making your hammocks and tamales, and Spanish is their second language.
ŋRoger have they lowered the beer prices since the grand reopening? I know with the talent they had that first nite they had to make some pesos fast but I dont think they will hold my interest with those prices. Regards R
Ramon, They are still doing a brisk business so the prices are still up there. But the *entertainment* is still muy caliente. I think they'll come down in a couple more weeks. Cheers Hey Kristo why don't you come down off your cross?
We once went over to the Grand Bay just out of curiosity as it is quite grandioso! We talked to one of the bartenders and they did tell us they received $3 a day. Hopefully they get tips. We were truly let down to think that is all they would receive when we had the grand tour and found out how much the rooms rent for per night. I had thought it was true asset and woudl bring decent wages to the Mexican people. Evidently it was not true, well at least for the locals.. I did look up the cruise boat to learn more about it. Can you imagine that just to purchase the lower end rooms they start at $900,000 per unit, others were up to $4,000,000. I can barely write that number. It appeared in the article that there are boats that go out to the ship where the residents can go shop. Tell Jesse, he needs to find out how to get on one of those boats so those people won't have to come to him. I can hear his comment already. I wonder what countries all these residents on the ship hail from anyway. Interesting concept if it were more affordable like the usual timeshares people purchase. I miss all my friends down there and the best I can get for Mexicna food here is in a little town and the owners are from Colima, Colima. It is really good but my Mexican friends are not there, nor the ocean but they are nice people.
Barb
I cant help but notice that about 85% of "rogers" replys are negative, are you constipated or is that just your negative outlook on life roger, come on man cheer up life is to short to be so neagtive, as always i wish you well roger, adios Dave
I think he's down there in Barra, too. Where we all want to be. In my 18 years visiting Mexico, never once did I feel cranky like he seems to be. I'm like that enough when I'm at home in Canada. I visit this site to be reminded of the pleasure it brings me, not the misery it seems to be causing Rog. But, strangely, I get a kick out of his posts. So don't stop, Rog. You entertain me.
Are you talking about Rogelio (Roger) Dominguez of Barra?
Carlos, I am trying to get in touch with my friend Lucy Marin who owns Lucy's Paradise. I have encouraged her to get an email account so we can keep in touch more economically. She is hoping to visit us in Canada and there is important information we need to share.She gave me a website WWW.gobarradenavidad but my searches come up empty. Can you walk over and give her our email address please. Thanks Lee.
We are trying to get in touch with a friend of ours Lucy Marin who owns Lucy's Paradise liquor store & bar. She has given us a site address www.gobarradenavidad without any sufix. All my searches turn up empty. She has a friend who owns a papeleria on Veracruz. The new hotel is right across the street. This friend has internet access with computers in the back of the tiny store in phonebooth like spaces. If someone knows the owner & could give her a message & our email to pass on to Lucy or if someone knows Lucy & could give her our email we would be so happy. Lucy wants to come & visit us and we are trying to set up travel itinerary. Email would be so much easier and cheaper than over the phone! Lee
Looking into getting married somewhere in Melaque or Barra, although maybe something smaller than at the golf course resort in Barra--any ideas?? thanks!
There is a little chapel St Patricks by the Sea in Melaque. It is right near the beach and then you can have your party anywhere
Roger/rogelio/cualquier es un hombre de mal humor, pero, a mi, me gusta tambien. Way to go Roger, bait and hook. What's so great about being "HAPPY"? anyway???
As a 'reader' of this site for at least a year, I'd like to thank all the folks who have posted information on the Melaque/Barra area. Your 'gems' made my first trip to a new area much less hassle free.
Also thanks to folks at MexConnect before it went to 'pesos for view'. I recently returned and can't wait to go back. Had the pleasure of staying at the Hotel San Felipe in Villa Obregon and could not have been treated better. It's a great location. The folks there treated me like family and I learned a great deal about the area and local happenings. I lucked into it from their website ...... http://www.prodigyweb.net.mx/hotelsanfelipe/default.htm.
Being 'off-season', it was fairly quiet in the area, though busier on week-ends. Folks coming down from the Guadalajara area for a break from their hot weather or just some time on the beach.
It's going to be interesting to be back for the wet season, the greening of the hills, and then the 'fall-winter' change in character (if there is one).
Ą Viva Melaque !
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dave et al, I think roger is as cool a cucumber as your ever gonna find, he certainily takes to heart any critics, maybe take him up on his offer to buy the first beer before the cultural experience, we all may learn considerably! bob
Where is the chapel located in Melaque? Thanks for the info!
Try La Paloma's site on this site. They have had a few weddings take place there. It's small (9 rooms) and quite a nice setting. There are photos on this site as well under Accomodations. I think they will arrange everything for you if you wish. Enjoy!
Check out "visitors' comments" under Tennis El Palmar's website. There's a couple that got married in the courtyard there.
We stayed there in 2001 and loved it.
Fair enough!!! I'm in. Roger, You can buy me one if I can buy the next two. Sounds like fun!!! Your invitation has mucho honorada!
The Chapel is on the same street as Maya's restaurant I think......right across from there.....half a block off the beach. I was there last winter for a wedding. The couple got married and then just had a reception by the pool where we stayed. It was very low key and spontaneous. They booked the chapel when they arrived only one week from the day they got there. I guess it depends how formal you want everything to be.
I have seen quite a few couples get married right onthe beach in Barra, sunset (capri) usually has one or two while we are down there jan to march every year, they are quite beautiful and with a sunset background very stunning anyway something to think about
My husband & I were married in front of the statue on the malecon right at sunset. It was beautiful; I wouldn't have done it any other way. Just celerated our 5th anniversary in Barra.
Thank you, I will give that one a try as well. Love that Lard!
Thank you for the Good Report. Glad you had a wonderful time in Paradise!
Did every one go on vacation, not sure if the comment page is down or not, if this post i'll know it is up and running, adios Dave
While we were in Melaque in January/February a couple from Seattle got married at the Sunset in Barra. They were on the same plane as us out of Manzanillo a couple of weeks later so it must have lasted.
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I wondered the same thing? Mayby it's just that Bob from BC and Rodger have been recalled to their home planets.
why have all the toilet seats been stolen or removed in most toilets. i find this awfull that there is no seats, i do some of my beast reading while sitting on the pot.
Not many tourists this time of year from the U.S. and Canada, though while I was there, we had many from Euorpe during the summer, and they do not seem to have discovered this site. Lets hope that the above mentioned children have finally found a life other than this board!
Feel lucky you found any and always carry tissue with you. There are many more seats now than when I first went to Mexico. The Mexican explanation to me was that they got stolen so often that many gave up trying to provide them. I was lucky. Put them, along with the first commercial toilet tissue holders in Melaque, in my restaurant while there, and they stayed out, and I noticed that not long after, many other public places followed suit. Lack of a toilet seat is a small price to pay for living or visiting in parisio!!! Wait til you get to a place that just has a hole in the floor. Then you will be grateful for the toilet, frills, accerories or no!!!
About the photos, when photographing locals, please ask permission first. I have seen many tourists snap away at them like they were zoo animals and have had many Mexican friends remark on the rudeness of this practice!
judy, children, don't quite buy into that, you have been acting like a child yourself since you got run out of Melaque, every so often you get on this site to bemone your sad experience there, why don't you come clean with your attempts to exploit the area with your commercial ideals. I printed off all your rantings at the Santana family before tom changed servers, maybe you would like me to re-enter them so all can see your sour grapes? Or are you going to start up a restaurant again and turn it into a night club in a residential area like the last time!
Brian you did make me laugh at your comment, I only wish that i was that witty, adios Dave
It seems the shock therapy Judy has been receiving has done no good what so ever.
I see some people around here just can't leave well enough alone and insist on posting completely unprovoked attacks on others. So who are the real assholes?
To all Barra de Navidad lovers. This a plea to you ,as you know ,last January they had an earthquake down there in the area,which damaged the church and the priest had to closed it down; the services are being held on the street,and the news are that they are going to demolish the church,and Priest Adolfo Garcia Herrera is asking for support, please help, I know that everybody likes Barra and its people and the church is one of the main attraction in Barra and the place where we go to give thanks to God for a nice vacation. If you want to contribute you can send your donation to Priest Adolfo Garcia Herrera, Parroquia Barra de Navidad,Barra de Navidad,Jalisco Mexico zc: 48987 or make a deposit in Banamex account number# 19076 branch # 736 in Melaque, Jalisco. That God bless you and your families.
I live here 13 years and have not found a toilet without a seat jet.
Can someone please tell me the last name of David and Marie, those wonderful Canadian proprietors of the restaurant Bananarama in Melaque? Gracias!
What are some of your favorites?? Especially in the Melaque and Huatulco area? Where are all of the above beaches, esp nude beaches in these areas? Thx
good question roger, sometimes the AH come from out of the blue! Bob
dave and brian if you only want to irritate then I guess you doing that quite sucessfully, on the other hand if you want to contribute then by all means do so, next you'll be bashing restaurants! and goodness knows what other places that people find so unique and interesting in the costalegre. regards
yes, they are presently vacationing in Canada Bob
Lets see, Dave asked a simple question, Brian stuck in a quick jab with a little dagger, Judy gave it a good twist, and for once I agree that Bob in BC and Roger had a good excuse to shoot back. What is it with you guys, you can't just let it lay there, can you? If all you want is cheap shots and angry rants, keep it up. I think of that first ice cold Pacifico of the day (after noon of course) on the beach and think, life is way to short for this crap.
Have a great summer, Andy
My apologies to anyone that took offence to my feeble attempt at humor! This is a great site and informative in most ways. Melaque and area is a wonderful time, smile folks, we only come this way once I think . Enjoy this site and the special area it helps visitors to understand.
Brian, et al, I guess i wont ask that question again!!!!, of course it is interesting to see where a simple comment will take you, some people are way to sencetive to comment, but life goes on anyway, adios Dave
Funny how the asinine comments generated the posts you missed so much, eh Dave?
Have a nice day roger and dont let it rain on your parade, this is just a test no reply needed!!!!!, i repeat this is just a TEST, Adios Dave
Surely, the Vatican's infinite wealth could be tapped for a few zillion pesos to repair or replace the church! Maybe just a couple of gold sculptures from the Pope's cellar would easily cover the cost?
It is raining down here now but I don't have a parade scheduled for the next few days. What kind of test is it Dave? For your sake, I hope it isn't a spelling test.
Damn SM, I know Canadians are cheap but I never knew one to get this irate when asked to part with a peso.
Poor poor roger dont be so negative about everything, I never see you starting a topic about ANYTHING, you only comment about others , (mostly negative) why dont you start a topic we can discuss about barra or melaque since you are down there already, you could bring us all up to date about the goings on in barra!!!!!, at least think about it, have a nice day as always roger, adios Dave
hola, Could not agree more with all of you, yes everybody lighten up, maybe a good old fashion party is in order, that,s if we could all be in melaque/barra at the same time, if not maybe we leave credits at Rogers bar for those who are arriving later(weeks or months), kinda like an old fashion chain letter Regards Bob
Roger has a bar ?? ... he's making more points with me by the month. Kinda got that "I just wirk here attitude" with a few smart remarks on the side. ;) [%sig%]
The place is for sale (has been for a few years) and getting cheaper <http://www.costalegre.ca/Bananarama.htm> Email them at <mailto:dmbananarama@yahoo.com> [%sig%]
ya sparks as usual your kinda on the mark, you related to john williams?
Hello, Im looking for a friend that was in Barra roughly around the month of march/april. His name is chris, age 21ish from Texas,. He set up a table outside Pipers doing henna tattoos. If anyone knows where he is right now or any info would be helpful.. last name, email address, hometown, etc. I just really need to get in touch with him. Thanks so much, Michelle
I thought they were asking for 80,000.$ a year ago?? Even at 40,000$ its way over priced,they dont own the property.
Agreed ... it's worth the equipment. The name is worth very little. In a small town with not many busineses open (lately) for competition ... all it takes is something good and some advertising. Word gets around in a few minutes.
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I hope nobody replies, but i sure wish roger would start a topic about barra and melaque, and let us all know whats happening down there !!!!!!!!!!!
roger, how do you come off to qualify SM as Canadian, surely not from it's address, that address could be from any where in the world, come on man (rogerio) there are way to many of us who do contibute to your local economy, maybe you you find that offensive, maybe we should be looking for new destinations to holiday at, Belize is looking good, that might make you satisfied but what about some others in the area who truly rely on tourism(from north america) are you going to chase off all because your whims. Think about it man! Bob
Bob, where in the hell can you get the idea that someone wouldn't come to Barra because of what a complete stranger writes on a message board? Get real.
The OP asked for contributions for the CHURCH, not the local economy. SM apparently holds animosity towards the Catholic church and felt the need to post a stupid reply.
Here's the ISP of that poster: BMTS/BMI Internet R,R#3 - Box 80 3145 Hwy 21 North Tiverton, Ontario, Canada NOG 2T0 Tel: (519) 368-2000 (toll free) 1-866-517-2000 you should check things out before you post ignorant assumptions.
Yata yata yata yata yata yata!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mindless posts!
Oh I don't know Dougie....yours is particularly articulate.
I know you are, but what am I?
Roger, my man if you took as much time about informing us aout the goings on in barra as you do about bitching about every poster i think we would all be better off. I for one would sure like to see if you could post a orginal post by your self, and inform-not bitch, as always have a nice day Roger, Adios Dave
This is for NAN Please Nan can you give me some info on COMALA .I will be going to Colima on my next visit to Melaque and I could add this place to my list to visit Thank-you Lucy
I thought the church was open in Feb when I was there. It would be a shame to close it. It has survived far worse earth quakes then what happened this year. There is an interesting story of an earth quake and the crucifix and how the Christ's arms are the way they are (down by his side).
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sid, the story of the crucifix and Cristo's arms breaking was during a hurricane.
Hey Roger! The site was getting waaay too quiet, so I figured my Vatican post would shake you out of the Cri-Cri! Yes, we Canucks can be a wee bit thrifty, but that allows us to get out and travel....unlike our American friends that seem to be staying home in droves! Personally, I spend tens of thousands of pesos in Melaque every season, with major support to Bigotes, the local merchants and trades people. And yes, I find it incredible that the endless wealth of the Catholic church would even consider a paltry donation from me! Now lets get serious: Is the 'New Cri-Cri' finally open? Tell us about it! It sounds like it might be my kind of watering hole! Just as I planned to visit the original, it evaporated....what happened to it? Have a really nice day Roger!
If you are driving from Colima to Comala,just before you enter Comala the road to La Hacienda de Nogueras,is to the right,if you are taking the bus to Comala,just take a taxi from Comala,write this "La Hacienda de Nogueras" to show to the taxi driver. About one mile,you will see the Museo beside the small church.the 3 links below will help.
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdarhidalgocolima.html http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdcolima2.html http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdcolima1.html [%sig%] Post Edited (07-24-03 23:38)
Nice articles but those links go to the "pay for view site". MexicoConnect is the free one. Try these <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdarhidalgocolima.html> <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdcolima2.html> <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/wdevlin/wdcolima1.html> [%sig%]
Thank-you very much Arbon and Sparks in Seattle This is exactly the kind of informations I wanted . Lucy [%sig%]
You've probably noticed that a majority of the posters on these various threads tend to be somewhat "green", fans of the remaining environmental treasures of the world if not outright tree huggers. Amongst those with an ecological bent, mistrust of and even hostility toward ORGANIZED religion continues to grow. In the US, far-right fundamentalists have taken over the government, as evidenced by the killing of the EPA report on global warming. The far-rightisits are convinced that the end of the world is near - hell, they want to HASTEN it by developing small, usable thermonuclear weapons - and anything that would reduce profits for their patrons must be stopped. I get the feeling that they've developed a boneless camel that WILL pass through the eye of a needle or something. But even the most boneheaded realize that most of the severe ecological dangers stem from over-population. The Roman Catholic Church bears a LOT of blame for their war against contraception and family planning - blame which must be shared by the evangelical extremeists in the US as well. Add that to the blemishes on the Catholic church caused by pedophylic priests and drunken homocidal (vehicular) bishops, and it's easy to see why a thread titled "Help the church" might draw a less than enthusiastic response. Perhaps if it were phrased something like "help the cultural center of downtown Bara" or something similar it might draw less hostility. Even thouigh globally religion - be it Judaism, Islam, Christianity, or Hindu - is currently more of a negative force than a positive, individual churches like the one in La Barra do have a place of very positive impotance in the lives of the parishoners.
You fail to appreciate your subject matter. Roger is much more likely to state what "Isnīt" happening in Barra
Religion has always been a negative force. Especially the catholic church.
thanks roger, you're right it was a hurricane, When his arms came down the hurricane stopped. Back in the 50's right?
when we were in Manzanillo last year, a friend told us to be sure to visit Colima and then travel the add'l. 6 miles to Comala. We were so glad we did. You pull up a chair near the town square and the mariachi's begin to play. There are usually other mariachi's waiting in the square for their chance to play next. Then if you order a beverage, they bring on the food. And it is wonderful. They keep the food coming until you tell them ENOUGH!!!! And all you pay for is your beverage. It was a fun afternoon.
The comment about Phoenix Bishop O'Brien is misleading. yes, h