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Looking for a great place to rent while visiting La Manzanilla, Mexico? Any ideas? bob

That depends on what you consider a great place to rent. For some, it's a hammock on the beach, for others it's a fully staffed villa. Also, your question needs to go in the Barra de Navidad/Melaque, Jalisco, comments. This section is for Manzanillo, Colima.

We stayed at Las Hadas under an all inclusive package. We felt the location was beautiful, but the food and service were definitely not 5 star. The resort is undergoing some changes as it was recently bought out - it has all inclusive and pay as you go guests. The all inclusive was poor because: - we felt like second class citizens due to the 2 tier system - tipping was supposed to be included but our travel rep indicated that if we wanted to get the service we should tip - money we felt we had already pd for in the package - the food selection was very limited at the buffet and again a 2 tier system existed - at the a la carte dinner you were given a different more limited menu. Most other dinner buffets consisted of 2 salads, soup, buns and 5 hot dishes. The food was not very well prepared - thank goodness the buns were good! - the drinks were limited with the all inclusive - again 2 tier system - you weren't allowed all drinks and some drinks only after certain times - i.e. Corona after 5 p.m. - the golf was o.k. but the course could have used some maintenance - try The Grand at Barre de Navidad - fantastic! - the rooms were nice, but a few people we traveled with or met had to request room changes due to cleanliness, location and room type comparability with guests who traveled under the same package. We had the Club upgrade which entitled us to a different room and some additional services such as continental breakfast, poolside happy hour with appetizers. This is what saved the vacation and if possible I would strongly recommend travelling under this all inclusive feature. Would we go again - only if the food and service improved. We had heard the food was bad but our charter had rated it as one of their Premier destinations and with a 5 star rating we had expected more. You definitely can't beat the location and setting - it is a beautiful resort.

Hi tom - first, your website is a wealth of information. thank you so much for all the work maintaining it. My husband and I will be arriving at Manzanillo airport Feb 6, leaving Feb 15th. I use a wheelchair for distances and steps are difficult. Can you recommend any places to stay that would be $75 max per night, ground floor or elevator, with an ocean view??? thanks, Cynthia Anchorage, Alaska

Bob, We(family of 4, 2 teenage boys) stayed at Villa Montana in La Manzanilla a few nites, in addition to La Paloma in Melaque. Other than not good for small children--steep drop offs, it's got the best views anywhere. Sm.2bed open style house, mostly patio fronting the town&ocean far below. Firefly type bugs, storms, sunsets, stars, geckos etc are really entertaining to just swing in the hammock and watch. See mexicodan website. Summer about $55/day. From La Manzanilla short hitch(bus/car) ride to Tenacatiata beach.Also several caimains in the swamp to check out near edge of town. John McKee

Just returned from a wonderful 12 days in Manzanillo and want to recommend the well-run, scenic and most attractive Hotel Villas Los Angeles. The owner Michel and his wife Patricia greeted us on arrival and gave us a quick "insiders" tour of local shops, banks etc. The access to both beaches at Playa Audencia and Playa Santiago gave us our daily workout as we walked the cobblestone hillsides. We snorkelled at Playa Audencia and La Boquita and other than feeling concern for the fragile new coral reef at La Boquita, found them both quite good. Loved the beaches, flora and the people and thank heavens for the small towns of Santiago and Salahua where I could get my Mexico "fix". Looked at the all-inclusives but thought "why bother" when it is so convenient at a place like Manzanillo to shop and cook and "do it yourself". I am planning my next Mexican coast vacation as I sit and only hope that it will include a place as lovely as the Villa of the Angels.

This is going to be one of my stops on the way down the coast (I depart on the 15th of this month). Does anyone have any insider info on great palapa restaurants, or great beach (tent) camping? I am traveling by automobile. As a matter of fact there is a great lack of information about the area between Manzanillo and Zihuatanejo. Any comments or observations are more than encouraged! Thank You, David

I was in Huatulco in Feb 1999 and didn't take ANY pesos or american money with me. I just went to the ATM machines when necessary..... Can I do the same for Manzanillo???? I'll be there in February

There are many ATM machines. The village of Santiago has 3 or 4 and the main town of Manzanillo has several also. At the Comercial store plaza there is one also. You may find that certain machines work better than others. The Bancomer (green) bank, seem to work the best and quickest. Enjoy your trip.

We got back from Karmina on 1/12/01. The resort was beautiful, and kept well clean. We were married on 1/9/01 at 5:00pm. Anne-Marie took care of all the wedding plans, and everthing was perfect. The day of the wedding we went snorkeling and swimming by the pool. The wedding only lasted about 10 min., but there was alot of signing and fingerprinting to do. We had the wedding supper at the Carioca, and everyone ordered what they wanted off the menu. We decided to take the cake to my parents suite for better lighting for pictures. We did go back up to the disco later. The band knew that we were married, and asked us to dance in the middle and everyone else circled around us. When we got back to our room that evening, the staff had been there to decorate. They showered the room with flower petals, and formed bathtowels into swans. We also received a picture frame from the hotel with Karmina Palace engraved in it. They staff was very friendly, and tried very hard to make sure everyone had a good time. There were 15 people in our group and not one had a bad thing to say about the resort or the staff. Your on vacation, enjoy, and don't let the little things bother you. We will be glad to answer any questions via e-mail. Dawn and Tom

Hi Pat, Thanks for the info. My wife and also prefer the more local approach. We plan to spend a few weeks in Barra Navidad area and want to fly in to Manzanillo this time and spend some time there for a while. Could you let me know contact info for the Villas Los angeles and price? Thanks

I will be visiting Malaque in March and would like to see the volcano. Is it possible to drive to see, or there any tours available? Also what is the usual drive time from Malaque?

We just returned from one week at the Karmina Palace. The resort is lovely, definitely five star in appearance. There were only small problems, such as difficulty getting soap, getting a TV fixed...communication...But everyone is very nice, the weather is great and the staff tries really hard. We went two couples and found it to be a lot more fun than had we gone ourselves. I'm sure we would have been very bored. Food was adequate to very good, depending where in the resort you were eating. The reservations only dining room was very good, though the portions were small...but very tasty. Their grill was great, the buffet was no hell, but just what you'd expect from any all-inclusive. We rented a car for two days, took one day trip to Barra de Navidad and one to Colima. The highlight of Barra was driving to the Grand Bay Resort...it was truly a stunning place. We tried to drive down to Playa de Oro, but found the 7 km dirt road running through the jungle to be too much for our rental car and figured we might never get out of there, so turned around after almost getting there. The trip to Colima was nice, but not all that interesting...There was a town called Comala a few minutes away from there that was great fun. You go to the bar and order drinks and they bring you a ton of food for free. That was the highlight of that trip. The area of Manzanillo is not clean or pretty, only if you hide away in your hotel...the areas outside the hotel are pretty much covered with garbage and closed down decaying properties. But that appears to be much the way Mexico is. If you can get past that you should be able to enjoy your vacation.

Unfortunately for you it's an active Volcano and as such access is restricted past a certain point. There are tours that will promise the earth-or volcano if you prefer(!)-but the Army has acccess shut off past a certain point and you ain't gettin' any further. That's Melaque BTW.

I drove to the top of Nevado de Colima in November. It takes about 2 1/2 hrs. to get to the service road into the National park and then its rough switchbacks all tehe way to the top. Great views of Vulcan de Vuego just to the south. Get a copy of the Pacific Mexico Handbook by B. Whipperman.

I'm 16 years old and just got back from the best holiday i ever had. i went with my family and my God-parents. I had the most amazing time of my life. I especially like how friendly the people are and how "non-shy" all the boys there are. I really enjoyed playing all the sports too. If anyone's thinking of going there for a holiday, do it. It was so wonderful and i already want to go back!!!

Hi Amanda, I will be at CM this February with my family. Any info on best room locations. We have booked a 2 bedroom villa. Want to be central to everything but quiet also ... How did you like the beach, were there a lot of vendors trying to sell you stuff ? Could you walk up the beach a distance and get away from them ?? Also, what about the a la carte restaurants. Any trouble getting into them, or do they book up quickly ?? Thanks, Jim

Hi Jim When we went we were in the 200's for our room, which was perfect. You don't want to be in the higher number's like the 7-800's because they are a lot of stairs and a long walk from the pool and the main area. Also if you want quite at night make sure you are not located by the "Boom-Boom Disco" or the Tropical Hut" (they are dance bars) because you can really hear the music. The beach was very nice. There is a restaurant/bar right by the beach for cm members only, which is very handy. When you walk down onto the beach though there are girls set up asking people for braids, (which probably won't be a problem for you) You may have one or two men with jewellery come up to you and ask you if you want to buy anything but you just say "No Gracious" (no thank-you) or "I have no money) and they leave you alone. I didn't have anyone try to force me to buy stuff. If you say one of those they leave you alone. For the a la carte restaurants on the resort, you can't make reservations before 4:00 P.M for the next day. Usually there is a small line up but you're sure to get into one of the restaurants, but they do book up pretty quickly. I hope this helped you, and I know you will have a wonderful time, I wish I was going again. But if you have anymore questions feel free to ask!! Amanda

We have recently returned from Club Maeva and my son would like to obtain some history regarding Club Maeva and the surrounding areas. He is doing a speech on our trip and any information regarding recent hurricanes or earthquakes would greatly be appreciated. We never thought to ask the town people while we were there about the buildings along the beach front that are vacant and in ruins. I will also be sending a comment in regarding our stay at Club Maeva. Thanking you in advance. Wendy sstafford1@home.com

Sorry to be a pest Amanda, but I wanted to clarify the room locations a bit. You mentioned your room in the 200's was perfect. Does that mean it was reasonably quiet ?? Can you recall anything about the 500 series room. From the map I have they are down/up ?? beside the mini-club and much closer to the beach. Which would you recommend ?? Thanks again, Jim

I'm looking for a web sight for LaRacief. My spelling could be off. I'm wondering if anyone is farmiliar with it and if they know of possible web page or condo rentals? Thanks julie

Has anyone ever stayed at this resort in Manzanillo; we've never been to Manzanillo before, but have been to several other places in Mexico. We're going for our 10th anniversary; I've got a price quote all-inclusive at this place for $916 include round trip air, taxes, transfers, tips etc.; but again we never have had an all inclusive. I've been hearing good and bad about them and don't want to make a bad decision. Appreciate a reply by someone with insight on this place as well as all inclusives. Thanks

No problem, I'm happy to answer any questions. I can't really recall where exactly the 500 rooms are but if you say they are by the mini club that sounds like a good location. It's very close to the beach. The mini club is a childrens club so it should be quiet at night. The 500's are a bit further away from the pool but nothing too serious. The 100's are very nice if you want to be by the pool because most of them are pool side rooms. The 200's were very quiet and were a short distance from the pool. If you're planning spending most of your time at the beach then the rooms by the mini-club sound good. Everything at the club is walking distance away so no matter where you are you should be fine. If you're looking for quietness at night I suggest like i said before to stay away from the boom boom disco and the tropical hut. Those two disco's are in more in the south east direction and the mini club is more in the south-west, so you should be fine for quietness. My room in the 200's was in the northern direction so it was very quiet at night. But like I mentioned before it totally depends on where you are planning to spend most of your time. I hope i kind of answered your question but if i didn't, feel free to write back I don't mind at all. Amanda

Chris I've never heard of Blue Bay Los Angeles Loco but I just returned from Manzinillo at a different resort and I definitely reccomend the all inclusive package. you can go up to the bar and get as many drinks as you want. You can go eat pretty much whenever you want. It's very handy because you don't always have to have your money with you all the time. Where we stayed there was a sit down restaurant you could go in and be served which was included with the all inclusiveness. So it's very convenient. Amanda

Blue Bay Los Angelos Locos is WAY out of Manzanillo, past La Barra and Melaque and almost to Tenacatita.

Probably El Arricife, the reef.

The Blue Bay Resort in on the North side of the Bay of Tenacatita approx. 35 miles north of the Manzanillo airport, as Manzanillo is 20 miles south of the airport. Web site at: www.bluebayresorts.com I live across the bay from the complex in the village of La Manzanilla, Mexico A lady just posted about getting back from BBR. It on the Barra board. Adios! Roberto

The name of the restaurant is L'recif, the place where this restaurant is located is Vida del Mar condominiums

Was at BB two years ago with my wife and children. If your looking for seclusion this is the place. The beach is incredible and private. You can go for long walks on the beach without anyone hassling you, since there is nothing else near the resort. If you prefer simple, clean, but not glizty, again you will like BB. Also there we a number of Mexican families vacationing at the resort which gave it a great flavour. We thouroughly enjoyed the entertainment and theme nights, which all take place in the outdoors). Also, if you have visited the Barra/Melaque site you will notice that these places have a large loyal following. For good reason, they are both great and close to BB. A suggestion. If you want a little more adult / spa flavour I would recommend Punta Serena. It is right beside/above Blue Bay. When you stay there you get the peace and quiet of an adult only resort (hot tub built right into cliff overlooking the bay, beautiful !!) and full access to the facilities / entertainment of Blue Bay. Hope this is helpful. Have a great time ! Jim

Mauricio: Thank You. I will try to find it by the condo's and the correct spelling.. Julie

Is it pretty easy to get around Manzanillo using the bus? What about getting from the airport? We're staying at a hotel by Playa de Santiago - at least at first. What car rental places are in Manzanillo? Thanks!

Manzanillo is very easy to get around. I have visited here six times and have found the bus and taxi the only way to go. The car rental can be a little dangerous and you can become a bit of a target for numerous scams.The bus on the main drag cost only 2.5 pesos and taxis about 40 pesos for short trips.The bus to Barra costs about 15 pesos each. Sit back and enjoy, don't drive.

id like info on the volcano in colima how close can i get..... dose anyone have any pics of the beach area.......room wise ive requested the 300 or the 500 level......what can you tell me bout them......and how much extra is the horseback riding? anything else you can offer would be great.... thanks vanessa

Try www.puntaserena.com or www.careyes.com or www.tomzap.com/manza.htm or www.bluebayresorts.com or www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

I'm not sure when or if a bus swings into the airport to Manzanillo. The rental cars at the ariport are: Budget-National-Hertz. Just call them here in the states and get a rate quote.

Try www.manzanillomexico.com. Its message board with lots of info on Club Maeva!

I found a great place to stay in Santiago Bay area. My mother and I went down in 1995 for one week. We stayed at Hotel Marlyn. It is named after the fish. It has one hanging on the wall outside. It is located about a half a mile down the Santiago Peninsula. Las Hadas and Karmina Palace are on the other side of the peninsula. The rooms were clean. Nice big showers and A/C. We paid 185 pesos per night at that time. Very affordable and clean. The man at front desk spoke no english, but a lady from Mexico City helped us translate. The location was on a bay which was safe for swimming and the pool was great. Not a huge pool, but perfect for families and tourists from anywhere. Weekends were busier because the Mexican families came for 2 days. We would walk into town from hotel and go to bank on the corner. Lots of great little family restaurants in Santiago. We took the bus to Manzanillo for an afternoon. Too noisy to stay there. We also took the proper bus to Barra de Navidad for a day trip. Great value and very mellow town also. I hope someone else tries the Hotel Marlyn also. I will definitely stay there again. Have a great vacation!!

We just came back from the blue bay and really enjoyed it. It is very remote but there is a lot to do there. We stayed for two weeks and found lots to do. Every excursion seemed very expensive and the feed back we had by other guests was dissappiontment for what they payed! But like I said there is a lot to do there. Take a snorkle and fins and either hike to tennacatite bay or pay $10 us and get dropped off at the river boat tour which is inclusive, the $10 is for them to pick you up it is well worth it!! They take you to the same place if you take the expensive snorkling tour.People had taken that expensive tour and were suprised to see us there. Just ask around when you get there. Shopping was very expensive also no great deals there.The food was good but after two weeks :( I've been to mexico a few times and we had enjoyed blue bay. Note: the resort above blue bay would be good if you are into yoga health food and nudity. Only for a certian type of person!Enjoy if you go, we did! Hotel is not a 3 1/2 star more like a 3? Not very polished if you no what I mean

What if you loose your card or cards? I would take travelers checks and cash and keep them all as seperate a possible.

I hear there are 2 or three courses in the manzanillo area , what are the green fees and which courses would you recommend. thanx

David, I wish I knew more about that strip of land, because I intend to retire near there. I am sorry this message will probably get to you too late. Here is what I have heard from cruising sailors and other sources: The primary stops, once you get past Cuyutlan and Boca de Pasquales (I liked Cuyutlan) are San Juan de Alima, Ticla, Maruata, Caleta de Campos... probably left a few out. Among cruising sailors, San Juan de Alima, Maruata, and Caleta de Campos are often regarded as pleasant stops, weather permitting. San Juan might well be the nicest of these, but is a bit exclusive too; don't know what camping opportunities there are there. There were one or two expressions of concern about crime against tourists at Maruata, but I do not know of any actual instances at all. I suspect it is a kind of "susperstition" making the rounds. The nicest beaches are reputed to be Pichilinguillo and Carrizalillo; the latter has water-- in fact, quite a few of the beaches along here do. When you return, would you do us all the big favor of posting a detailed trip report, and let us know about the condition of Hwy 200 as well?

I know the language Institute of Colima closed a few months ago ... and wonder if anyone knows of any others in the city of Colima. My next choice is Cuernavaca but that is a long way from the coast. Thanks

Hi Jim, We too have just returned and had a blast. Our two boys and us stayed in 650 and found that this was a great location. It was central for everything. The stairs are not that bad, unless your family are of the "unactive type". The property is very large and you will likely be planning your day out in advance to avoid walks back and forth to your room. The " beach bag " was very handy. We had a view of the ocean from our balconey. We also had 3 grandparents join us and they were in 512 which overlooked the kids club and the main walkway for access to the beach. They had no complaints with their walk. It is much quiter on this side of the resort compared to the other. Alfredo's was a little bit of let down. We ate there once! Other wise, it doesn't matter where you eat, the food is basically the same. The dinner/theme shows were great. My only dissapointment was their meaning of steak. Not the best of cuts! Plan your acvtivities for the things that you want to do at the tower. Some things fill up quickly! The beach was great. Nice and sandy. Rent a boogie board for 20 peso's ( $2.00 ) and enjoy the waves. The best place to purchase souvineers is at the flea markets on the beach. You don't know that they are there unless you look for them. Yes the vendors are there, but they move along if you show no interest. Club Maeva has limited area on the beach, so their umbrellas go quickly. For 50 Peso's you can get one from the local's in the area. Have a good one! Rick.

Our family recently returned from a trip to Club Maeva, Manzanillo, Mexico. We had never been on an all-inclusive vacation before, and we had never been to Mexico before. Our family was so thrilled with the trip that we are all looking forward of returning. You couldn't have asked for a more courteous and friendly staff. The Maevamigos were the greatest. Our two teenagers, one a girl 18 and the other a boy 13 would return tomorrow if they could. Our family is very sports orientated and this place offered as many sports that you could do in a day. We were a little leery at first, being only a 3 1/2 star resort, but we were treated like it was a five star. We would go none stop, from Water Polo at 11:00, to Water Aerobics, to the ocean for the afternoon of booging boarding, back to Water Polo at 4:00, then on to volleyball until 7:00. There wasn't anytime for a siesta, only if you wanted to. Then it was down for either the Dinner Show, Dinner at Alfredo's or just Dinner at the Happy Hut and then we sat back to watch the special Shows that were different every night. People asked if we toured any of the city of Manzanillo, the closet we got to the city, was on the Saturday Morning we ventured on the city bus to the Santiago Flea Market. The rest of the time we spent on the resort. Any family that is travelling from Canada, I would highly recommend this resort as a FIVE STAR. You and the majority of the guests are from Canada, and we all know how friendly we Canadians can be, once we let their guard down a little. The highlight of our trip was when all four of us appeared in different segments on stage for "Guest Night." We watch the video over and over and laugh till we almost cry. So anyone that would like anymore information on CLUB MAEVA feel free to contact me. Wendy

Have been to Manzanillo for the past 8 years and each time we have rented a car. We have found renting at the airport to be the best in value. We have had a problem or two with the agent in Manzanillo and his cars are old. Stay with Budget, National or Hertz at the airport. You can rent over the internet through Travelocity.com or Expedia.com. Driving in Manzanillo is not much different than any where else. Just take your time and try to learn some of the signs and the laws. We have learned over the years. It is recommended not to drive the highways after dark because of animals on the roads. You are required to have Mexican insurance(you get when renting) which adds alot on to the bill. But we feel it's worth it so we can go when and where we want. If you want to save money go the taxi route from the airport. They are also very good, dependable and reasonable. You can go anywhere with them. The bus system is very good and cheap but I don't know if they leave from the Manzanillo airport. I have found driving in Manzanillo to be alot of fun and have discovered alot of new and exciting people and things going out on my own. Go and have fun and see all of Manzanillo! It's worth it!

Hi Wendy, Well we are heading down there for Spring Break, March 16-23 we as well have never been to any part of Mexico. We are a little worried about the water. Did you have any problems with this? Can I ask what level you stayed in? We were told to stay in the 200 - 300 Level, We would like to be closer to the pool but not to close to the disco. We are heading down with our best friends and they have two boys ages 7 and 3, or girls are 12 and 16, anything you think we should know before we go down? Are the kids groups good? Well look forward to hearing from you and by reading your testimonial I can hardly wait to head down. Darlene

we wish to take a bus from manznillo to playa blanca (club med), do you know if buses run that far, to club med, or where could we get this information prior to our arrival there? Thanks,very much

We will be travelling to Manzanillo from Canada. Is it best to have peso's? Are Canadian dollars easily exchanged?

Hi there, My husband and I are scheduled to fly with our two seventeen year old girls, and eight year old boy to Karmina Palace in March. Having read your comments it sounds like we made have made a mistake. Is there any tips you can give us, as we have already paid for the vacation, and can't back out? We were told is was a beautiful resort, what are your thoughts? Thanks, Leigh

My husband and I are booked to stay at the Karmina Palace in March with our three children (17 & 8). Can anyone shed some light on the childrens club they are suppose to have in the hotel? As well, what is the night life like at Karmina, as we have two seventeen (almost eighteen) years old girls that will be looking for some adventure at night within the resort. Also, how is the food - we stayed in Hualtulco last year at the Gala and raved about it, but wanted to expereince a different part of Mexico this year. Leigh.

Check the visitors comments Melaque/Barra.

I have never found a place that buses do not go in Mexico. Almost everyone takes the bus.

If you can go south to Melaque/Barra.

Is there tours to El Salto? or What is the best way to get there?

Hi amanda, you probably don't know me but you said the boys there are friendly? what do you mean by this comments, i am looking for a nice mexican to settle down with so maybe you can give be info on the mexican men! sorry if i sound a liitle awkward it just my friends were bugging me that i answer the phone weird so i have no friends.my husband sits on the couch 24/7! yes i am married but what can ya do! thanks you! Barb Barb

Barb, what you are looking for is called a "sancho." Can almost gaurantee you will find one, too.

Hi Lynn...Pesos are better but you can exchange your Canadian dollars right at the resort at the front desk. There is also a small shopping centre about a 10-15 minute walk from the Karmina that has a bank machine that we used all the time with no problems.

Hi...I think you will enjoy this vacation if you like to be in a beautiful place to relax. It truly is one of the most beautiful places we have been. You have to realize that Mexico is not the U.S.A. or Canada. Relax your pace and enjoy the activities with your children. There is entertainment in the evening, snorkelling and kayaking during the day and places where you can walk safely. The people are remarkably kind and try their best to please. Anyone who can afford such a vacation is a lucky person and should count themselves as such. We have travelled abroad many times and have travelled to Mexico several times and found this vacation to be very relaxing. The weather is exceptional and you can travel the highways safely. You have not made a mistake. I would love to hear your thoughts when you return. Have fun

O.K. I just can't resist, please define a sancho for me,and how can you be so sure that Barb will find one ? Are you the scuba instructor from some years back by any chance? Cheers , Sara

I am looking, preferably for a condo that I can rent on a yearly basis in the Santiago-Manzanillo Bay areas

I always carry a bit of US money but it has never been a problem to exchange Canadian at the banks. Canadian is not accepted in restaurants, stores, etc. They say to use the bank machines for the best rate but do not depend on them totally, do have some cash with you.

Leigh - we went to Karmina Palace last month, and ended up having a wonderful time. Our kids would love to go back. When we first arrived, we were bowled over with how gorgeous the resort is. I had some initial concerns, though, since there were not that many kids there (we were there Jan. 2nd to 9th, and most schools went back on the 8th, so there were not a lot of families still around) The kids club did not interest our 11 year old, as most of the kids were younger and Mexican, since the North American kids had mostly left. It did look like they were having a lot of fun there, though, so I think an 8 year old would enjoy it. Our 16 year old daughter ended up hanging out with the entertainment staff, who were a great group of young people, Canadians and Mexicans, as young as 19. They organized all the activities during the day (beach volleyball, water polo, dance classes, etc.), and were in the shows at night. They also were at the disco when it opened at 11, and would lead everyone in Mexican line dances, which were a lot of fun. I would definitely recommend getting your girls adult bracelets, (everyone wears either blue or white bracelets to show you have paid to stay at the resort) Technically, you are supposed to be 18 to get in to the disco, although I did see some teens with child bracelets on that had been allowed in. To avoid any possible problem, when you check in just say they are 18.(Although be aware that this also gives them access to unlimited alcoholic drinks! However, you don't need to worry too much as the drinks were pretty weak - my husband always ordered a double, as otherwise he said he couldn't taste any alcohol!) Our daughter was given an adult bracelet in error on check-in, but we didn't correct them once we realized that, since we wanted her to be able to get into the disco. For the most part the food was pretty good. I don't think it would be as good as the food at the Gala, though. We tended to go the Grill restaurant most nights instead of the buffet, and it was very good. I wrote a 4 part review for another message board (www.manzanillomexico.com), and will attempt to email it to you in it's entirety. Let me know if you have any further questions, Sheila

WHICH waterfall? There's a zillion in Mexico and all are called El Salto!

Is it true, as is stated in the tomzap.com description of what they refer to as "Hotel Maeva", (which I take to be Club Maeva) that there are no tv's or phones?? I didn't think that this was the case, however, I'm now not so sure. We are going to Club Maeva from March 30 - April 6th. We have 3 girls ranging in age from 8 - 13. Is there anyone else out there who is going at this time as well? If so email me and we'll chat or just post a message on this board . We have never been before and have read all of the comments on this and another message board and are becoming so excited; we can hardly stand it!

The one talked about on this site. http://www.gomanzanillo.com/old_articles/elsalto/

Anyone stay at this resort? Any comments?

Hi Karen, Yes there are TVs and phones...but I wouldn't advise using the phones in your room cause you get charged an arm and a leg for them!! The best way to call back to Canada is to go to the main lobby and they give you a special number, Canada direct, to call and then make your call. It works quite well and is MUCH cheaper...People can call the hotel and leave messages for you and then they leave it on your room message service.

Thanks sheree, Gee, I'm running into you whereever I go. It's great to bump into you here and thanks for the useful information. Karen

Stayed at Karmina in November and had a wonderful time. Although I did not have children with me, I did have occassion to observe the children and staff at the kids' club. I was not impressed with what I saw, and am passing this along as a cautionary measure to you. The children were at poolside, with some of the older boys using the slide and the younger children and staff watching from the side of the pool. A young, about 8ish, Canadian child wanted to use the slide, too, and the staff were ignoring her requests to do so. They soon left, with the young girl remaining behind at poolside, staring at the slide. None of the staff took notice, or cared, that she was no longer with them...which was difficult since she was the only blonde haired child in the group. When she started to play in the water, I asked where her parents were. She took me to her father, who was at the other side of the pool. He told me that she was supposed to be with the kids' club. Obviously, she did not return to kids' club. If it were my child I would not feel entirely safe sending her to kids club unless you keep an eye on what is happening. The activities for children are great, and it would probably be great if your child wanted to participate in those activities, but not without additional supervision from someone in your family. Have a great time, and enjoy!

I have rentals in La Manzanilla, Mexico just north of the Manzanillo airport at: www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

I've been wanting to ask the same question.It seems that no one has golfed in Manzanillo.

My girlfriend and I are staying at Las Hadas in Manzanillo and we have unlimited golf (I'm like the ever ready bunny - and can just keep going and going - 54 is a max in 1 day) included in our package - the course is a Robert Trent Jones Design - Our travel agent booked it (My understanding is regular green fees are $80 us plus caddie We are leaving to go on the 27th - 20 years ago I was there when we drove down! - No we didn't stay at Las Hadas then!

Hi, the Las Hadas Golf Course is very nice, I haven't played it recently but it always looks in good shape when I go by. I would say $80.00 US is probably a bit high, depending on demand. There is a course at Club Santiago not sure if it is 18and it runs about $40.00 US for 18. I played the Isla Navidad course last Oct., it is about an hour from Manzanillo, north. It has 3 nine hole courses. Absolutely beautiful but very expensive. $150.00 US plus caddy plus cart but worthwhile at least once! There is another golf course even farther north called El Tamarindo and it looks spectacular, again very expensive $150.00 US plus! The package deal at Las Hadas sounds great and of course the resort is gorgeous.

Barb aren't you married?!? So why do you want a Mexican man to settle down with? All I meant when i said the Mexicans are friendly was they're friendly. That's all. What does answering the phone have to do with a trip to Mexico? But if you're planning a trip to Mexico. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Went diving in manzanillo this past week, went to a shop called Underworld scuba, well lets say that it should be under the world, the equiptment was at best shoddy, unsafe would be a good adjective. The owner seemed nice enough but her helper Carlos, was well lets say unfriendly, grouchy and mean. The dive sites were nice enough, except that our dive guide, couldn't help but be mean to the divers. We quickly decided that this would be the last dive with these people. The next day found a new dive shop in town, called Neptunes Diving and Sports, its run by a group of young, fun attractive and totally dedicated people, All of them spoke perfect english, given that most were canadian and americans, made this a fairly easy task to master. We had the greatest time diving with these folks. I can't help but recommend them over and over again. If your a diver in manzanillo you have to look them up. I promised them I would tell everyone that would listen about them. So everyone listen and go to Neptunes Diving. its at www.neptunesdiving.com mark

Can anyone tell me where this hotel is located - I already know the name of the beach and that it is by the ship harbor, but is that in downtown Manzanillo? Is it in a good part of town? Is it close to shops, restaurants, activities? I cannot find a map of Manzanillo and cannot picture where town is in relation to the big resorts or this hotel. Any information regarding the location and character of this establishment would be helpful. Also, is there any snorkeling around Manzanillo? Thank you, Deb

Miss and Margaret thanks for th info

Hi Debi, I don't know if I can be of much help but it sounds like this Hotel is in the city of Manzanillo, this is a working town not very picturesque, the navy is stationed there and I personally am not fond of the town. I do not know this hotel but that is not to say it isn't OK. Have you tried the gomanzanillo site maybe you can get the tourist bureau through it. When you arrive by air you travel through Santiago and along the Hotel strip all the way to the Las Brisas crossroads which then takes you to Manzanillo, it is about 45 mins from the airport. Generally tourists stay along this strip which takes in Santiago Bay and Manzanillo Bay. There is a dive shop at the Las Hadas turn off next to the Guadalajara Grill. Sorry I did not know the hotel but I think that web site will be of some help.

Just got back from hte Karmina Palace last night and had a fabulous time. Although we did not take the children, your eight year old should have a great time. I agree with Sheila's comments about getting your daughter an adult bracelet!! My husband and I were at the Gala in Huatulco in Feb/99 and absolutely loved it. In comparing the two resorts, the layout of both resorts is very similar but the Gala was much smaller and seemed more cosy. The Karmina is more impressive in size and when it comes to the rooms. The food at the Gala was alot better. In terms of shopping..... Mexico is Mexico, it's great but if you bought alot last year, it is almost the same shopping..... The silver jewellery was not as nice as in Huatulco. You will enjoy the Karmina very much. Have a great time. I also posted on www.manzanillomexico, so you can read all about our trip. Taleen

Margaret: Please check out this web-site www.vrbo.com/vrbo/1095.htm If you go to the web page: www.gomanzanillo.com you will find at the bottom of the page a web site by Jeremy Thompsom. He rented his condo in Manzanillo and that is the web-site that I gave you. Good luck. Any problems accessing the site, just let me know. Wendy

Thank-you Wendy, checked both sites. Not quite what I want.

all i want to know is how old barb is. i think she should book a trip to mexico. her family and her would enjoy it im sure. brad

you type too much

Golfed Las Hadas course a year ago, a very nice course, (maybe a little under watered), but it was lots of fun, and free (We stayed at Los Hadas); You'll still need to pay for a caddie , or cart, but I cannot wait to go back. George

We are headed back to Manzanillo later this week for the third year in a row. The past two years have stayed at the Karmina Place and golf the Las Hadas course most days - with a trip to Isla de Navidad once each time. The prices others provided are correct. The Las Hadas course is challenging and fun - some rather 'unique' holes and some absolutely lovely ones. However, if you can afford a round at Isla go for it! Absolutely beautiful. In fact this time we are staying at the Grande Bay and will be golfing it a few times (you can obtain a 5 round per room package for about $360 US) We have not yet played El Tamarind (spelling?) which is a jungle course but will definitely play there this year. By the way, it cost us about an additional $80-$100 to golf Isla the past two years due to the fact we had to take a taxi from Manzanillo and the cab had to wait for us (4 hours) can you belive it! But it was still worth it. Have fun!

If you are looking for a beautiful Mexican Hotel stay at the Posada Tonala on the main street for about 350 pesos a night. They speak no English but are willing to communicate. You can also locate any number of privately owned places by just walking up the main street and reading the signs or going in to Martine's to eat and talking to the locals. Or you can email Ada Zunica Rutherford at adalamanzanilla@yahoo.com She is a realtor and rental agent and has some beautiful houses!! Good luck

Hi am interested in your long term rentals in La Manzanilla - what you have and where in town - I know the town. And what the rental charge would be per month. Thanks Daphne

Daphne, you need to contact Dan at outlandadventures@foxinternet.net I am looking for a long term rental , I do not have one......Margaret

Hi Julie, My wife and I had our anniversary dinner at that restaurant two years ago, I consider it one of the best in Mexico, great food, dramatic location/view ...have fun

Looking for an apartment or house to rent for one month around February 2002--price from $200-$400 per month. Please write. Brenda

Try allmexicohotels.com for a list of hotels

Karen - My daughter and I just got back from a week at Club Maeva. You'll love this place! It truly is a great family vacation site. There is a separate area called the Mini-Club for kids ages 2-12. There are activities all day long in the main pool, from water basketball to water volleyball to water aerobics to water polo to scuba lessons. Four different places to eat, a bar right next to the main pool for yourself, tennis courts, volleyball, theor own waterslide (!), a walkway to the beach (be careful of the waves and the undertow, it's formidable), nightly shows in the main plaza and a great group of young people called the Maevaimgos who run the activities and have a blast doing it! The TV in our villa in the 700 block had HBO. There is a phone in the room, but you're better off buying a phone card from the charter representative in the lobby for 100 pesos. You pay the front desk 15 pesos to make the connection, then walk across the lobby to make your call. In fact, I have a phone card with about nine minutes left on it if you'd like it. You're going to have a great vacation. Please tell Memmo and Israel that Emma (my daughter) says hi and thanks for a great vacation!

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/sdearing/sdmanzanillo1.html Originally discovered in the early 1500s by Hernan Cortes' minions, it was designated a shipbuilding site (the wood from the manzanillo tree was used to build ships), and an official departure point for important expeditions. Over the next 300 years, Manzanillo's history was filled with accounts of pirates from Portugal, France, Spain, and England assaulting, looting and burning ships for their precious cargoes.

well ya sure im married, but that has never stopped me before! i mean i just need a change in my life and it seems like mexico is a very nice place to execute some changes in life. and the finding a man part is just a extra thing i wanted to happen. i mean my husband is way shorter than me and i can't stand it anymore! oh ya and for the little man who was wondering how old i was, im 41? if you want you can contact me at my e-mail address if you want to know more about me! well thank you ill write backlater. if anyone has questions about my alternative lifestyle just write back and i'll answer any question! barb barb

Perhaps someone can help me out with a recommendation for a place to stay outside Manzanillo. Here's what I'm looking for, - Nice quiet beach for swimming, walking. - Walking distance from small restaurants, etc., - A house, condo, or apartment on the beach or very close by. At least 1 BR with kitchen. Just something simple and clean, it doesn't have to be fancy. I'm looking for a nice quiet place for me, my wife, and our toddler. I don't care about night life, but I'd like to be close enough to shops and places to eat that we don't need a car. A really nice beach is the thing for us. We'd be there for a bit over a week for the first week of April. Thanks in advance, -Ron

Try La Manzanilla just north of Barra de Navidad on Tenacatita Bay (www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals)

Thanx Michael for all of the useful info. All that you told me was familiar to me but it's great to get confirming reports from people who actually have just been there. I have a daughter named Emma too so that will be easy for me to remember! I have requested a villa in the 700 block. Did you find the stairs that much of a nuisance like others have told me? I am looking forward to the exercise. It doesn't disuade me at all. Did you get great weather? I have been following the weather on the internet and they said that thunderstorms were forcast for some time last week. Did you experience thunderstorms? We are so excited...we are counting down the days until the 30th. Thanks again Karen

I am traveling to Manzillo in April, could you give me an idea of the water temo and what you saw diving. Where else have you been diving and where could you compare it to. Did they use computers or dive the tables as I have encontered previously in Mexico. How many people dived with you each boat ride. Any additional info you might have would be appreciated. We are staying at the Karmina Palace, do you have any knowledge about the resort. We are traveling with teenage sons who do not dive and they are looking for action there own age. Thank you for the information.- Mark

Hi I would love to read your 4 part review of Karmina. As we are taking 2 17 year old girls there in April. Could you send it to me? Thank you so much

Either Barra or Melaque would work. Melaque would give you more choices. Hard to find an apartment unless you want to stay for a few months. Hotels run from $35-10 US a nite. Gustacomate is a very quite little town with a quite beach ... and is only a short walk north of Melaque. Many people in Melaque make the walk over the hill to Guastacomate every morning for exercise. Look for Lufa plants along the road; look like a large cucumber, have pretty flowers ... and peal easily to get to the famous "back scrubber" that we all know. Nice walks (rocky) out on the point where you might even be able to snorkle. Melaque's main beach is nice and fun to play on. Many good resturants in Melaque .... from street vendors (take out) to table cloth dining. Melaque gave me a warm safe feeling

My husband and I just returned from one week stay at Club Maeva. We absolutley loved the nice, beautiful weather everyday! The Clyb is nice, good food, all the drinks you want! Very clean! You have to leave a credit card number or a deposit at the desk ($1.50 per call) to make phone calls. We only had a 60 minute phone card to use and we could only make (2) calls to the States on it after you finally got through! Also, mostly Spanish is spoken there, alot of Canadian and Mexicans vacation there....I felt we were the minorty, not very many Americans! Lots of activities going on everyday! Alot of children there, too! Very family oriented! It was our first experience and we are going back again next year only maybe to Carmina Palace? Have fun! I am STILL thinking about all the wonderful weather we had! PS I live in Michigan!

Thanks Marcia for your note. We are so excited to go on our trip...we can hardly stand the wait. I've been watching the weather on another web site and I know what you mean about it being great. Thanks for your information about the phone. We won't have to phone home often. just to check on the dog sitter. We live in Orillia, Ontario. Canada.

This is way late but about 3 years ago in March we decided to drive the coast south of Melaque and ended up staying in Caleta de Campos in a nice little hotel called Los Arcos (I think) for about $13 per night. It was set up high on a cliff with a beautiful view of the pacific- especially at night when the sun set. It was next to a light house. The town has a great beach which was about a 5 minute walk down the hill from the hotel. Caleta is great for a quiet relaxing stop as the town is very small and only had 2 hotels and very few restaurants (We ended up on a first name basis with the waiters.) . It is not a big tourist hangout (We were the only 2 tourists there not including the 2 other visitors there on business). The Michoacan coastal highway was in pretty good condition - just a lot of hairpin curves you need to concentrate on when you'd rather be watching the view. The first part of the highway between Lazaro Cardenas and Xitapa was very pothole filled at the time.

We found the best rates in Puerto Vallarta to be at the American Express office. I do not know it there is one in Manzanillo. Does anyone know?

We are staying at the Marina Puerto Dorado Hotel at 101, the La Posada is at 201. Is Las Brisas in the good part of town or are we out on the end of everything??? There seems to be a long span of highway between Playa Azul and Las Brisa. Are there palapas or restaurants nearby or will we always have to take a taxi? Any help?? I leave on Saturday. Need quick replies. Thanks Debi.

Hi Karen, Just a note...we will be there March 20....so if you see a tanned (?) girl walking around with a tennis court and three kids tagging along...stop me...and ask...are you Sheree??? It would be nice to meet you... p.s....I have two dogs to be "babysat"....

Is it worthwhile bringing my non-digital phone? Are the connections ok? Is the price astronomical? ANd how about the voltage in Club Maeva for my charger? Thanks, Stew

Stew, I don't have any idea about cell phones in Manzanillo but I do know that the voltage at Club Maeva is normal (like Canada, etc.). I had no trouble using my blow dryer and didn't have to switch voltage. I had heard that calling home from Mexico was very expensive - we were told to call collect. Haven't received the phone bill yet to see how bad it was - just got home from Club Maeva on March 2.

If you are just going for a week or two it is probably not necessary to take your cell as you can phone home collect. Phoning in and out of Mexico is the most expensive in the world!! It is unbelievable! I have taken a cell in the past and had a Mexican number then bought time, it has worked but it is a lot of trouble. You can buy a phone card, Lada I think it is called and then phone from any phone booth. Hope this was helpful.....Margaret

The best way to call home is to buy a Latadel card and find a phone the accepts them. I'm assuming they are available all over Mexico, this is what we do in Puerto Vallarta. $50 pesos buys about 10 minutes from PV to Texas, so I don't know how much different if would be to call farther. I called collect ONE time-$8 something a minute! If these cards are sold in Manzanillo, look for the small Latadel sign at pharmacies, liquor stores, tiendas.

If anyone has information to add about Blue Bay's inclusives; horseback riding, water sports etc. I would appreciate it. Peter's tip on snorkling was helpful. What other excursions are offered? Also, info. on getting to and from the resort from the Manzanillo airport. Thanks!

I can only talk about Hotel La Posada-- not familiar with the other. The closest good restaurant, I would say, is Willy's, which is very good-- but it's a bit too far to be a comfortable walk. No good restaurants within walking distance. I liked La Posada very much, and they serve a good breakfast. It's quiet, because it is not on the commercial part of the street. Excluding the Santiago Peninsula, other hotels which are on the beach and have good views, like La Posada, will generally have a lot of highway noise. Have a good trip!

Just returned from Club Maeva on March 9th and had a wonderful time. We did have money stolen from our room though after it was made up. We were gone only about 2 hours and my husband just hid his wallet, after returning from shopping in town and went to the beach. Make sure to use the safe in the room, even though someone had their's jimmied open and money also stolen. Big flea market in Santiago is only there on Saturday so go then, it was great. Beaches are beautiful and the staff was excellent. If you want a Cd or tape made up for you of the music played in the Tropical hut I would suggest that you would bring one with you. No charge if you bring your own. Great latin music. Kids 13 and 9 had a ball there. Food was great.

We have been to manzanillo twice and are about to make our third trip. We have stayed at maeva and this time will go to Karmina (with our 16 year old daughter) From everything I have read on the other manzanillo chat site, I have very high expectations of what we will find at Karmina. It sounds like the hotel itself is fabulous, the pools, waterfalls and waterslides...our daughter is looking forward to the dancing at night and the entertainment and lots of sun and relaxing in the days. One thing we are planning to try is the ATV ride through the jungle down to a secluded beach...we also did horseback riding on our last trip and got out into the local villages for a real look at third world life. Our last trips found lots of friendly and handsome young men working at the resorts, as well as lots of other teens staying there. We chose Manzanillo over bigger resorts because you are more likely to meet tourists who are from mexico...why go to a foreign country to be surrounded by people who are just like you?? If your children want more contact with local action, you can take a taxi north to santiago bay which has a flea market, lots of vendors on the beach, and a very long beach for walking along. We are also planning to go exploring in Manzanillo town as well. I really think you will have a great time and hope I have given you a few reasons to be optomistic. email me if you have any specific questions cindy

Ron My wife and I stayed at the Grand Bay Resort just North of Manzanillo a couple of years ago. The drive from the airport to the hotel is something that most tourists going to the other resorts miss. This hotel is all luxury. The Location is superb and you can take a small boat across the bay to Barra De Navidad. Many good places to eat and shop. The ride across the bay is very smooth and short maybe 3 minutes. This place is truly gorgeous. You can rent wet bikes and cruise the bay, and chec out the canals, you can swim about 20 yards across the canal to a little Island. This place is truly a Mexican Paradise!

This may sound dumb, but I heard from someone that was heading to Club Maeva that they were bringing with them about 100 small packets of ketchup with them because Club Maeva does not have any ketchup. Can someone confirm or deny this nasty rumor? My oldest daughter is addicted to ketchup, especially on her fries or her eggs in the morning.

I really don't know ... but salsa is much better and might break her habit !!!

Find their website and e-mail them.

We were just there and there is ketchup. I thought it was BBQ sauce at first, but my kids said it was ketchup. They are picky ketchup eaters and they seemed to not mind it at all. I couldn't tell the difference, its just a little darker looking, like a BBQ sauce.

We got back a couple of weeks ago from Club Maeva and there is ketchup. It's in a glass bowl with the rest of the condiments and as Karen said it's a darker colour than we are used to - does look like barbeque sauce. My daughter eats ketchup on everything!

Your kids are hooked on SUGAR, not Ketchup!!!! What kind of responsible parent alows children to drown their food in Sugar? What kind of a life will that child have in the future? Break the addiction, teach the child to taste food, to appreciate that not everything tastes like Pop! Fresh-made Salsa is an excellent condiment and is a good place to start.

Fortunately not all of the food that I serve requires her to put ketchup on it....only french fries and eggs....and she eats those about once a week each, but I know she'll enjoy frenchfries and eggs while at Maeva. Lighten up!! I happen to be a dental hygienist for the last 20 years and have taught nutrition and nutritional counselling at the College level and and probably know a lot more about sugar than you will in a lifetime. Yes, I did know that there is more sugar than there is tomatoes in ketchup. She doesn't like pop either and I just feed my kids 100% fruit juices or milk to drink. I also happen to preserve my own salsa from my own tomato plants each year. She does enjoy that too with nacho chips so it's not like she hasn't tasted it....she just prefers ketchup. I don't know anyone who puts salsa on their french fries! For your information she has a very bright future...you sound like one of those extremists hot on one topic! A little bit of information is a dangerous thing! It is a holiday, however, and I think everyone deserves to indulge in the "sins" that they enjoy when they're on holiday. I'm sure you didn't drink at all while at Maeva since it's so bad for you, right? You sound like a barrel of fun.

Sorry to sound rude Barb but don't you think that these comments should be mostly about Mexico and not your personal life. Sorry if I sound mean but I think this website was designed for people to share their ideas about Mexico.

or at least some people thought so ..... but on the lighter side, body language and tone of voice would have probably avoided this little disagreement. I'll buy ya both a beer!

There is definitely ketchup at Club Maeva.

Thanks Sparks! You're right about that.....some things really aren't worth arguing about are they? I may take you up on that beer. When are you there?

you tell her,Karen!!!!!!!!! Way to go!!!!!

Karen, Speaking of thunderstorms - I think we got a sampling of it the day we left Manzanillo. Friday, March 2 - it was cloudy and spitting at Club Maeva in the morning but by the time we got out to the airport it was pouring with gale force winds! It was incredible. Of course we were all thinking..great we'll be soaked running out to the plane and then have to sit 5 hours in wet clothes. But someone was smiling on us because it quit raining by the time they boarded us. There were still the gale force winds and the ground was full of puddles but that was minor compared to what it was. Other than that one day we had very hot weather the whole week we were there. My 8 yr old daughter and I went with a couple of other moms and their 8 yr old girls (kind of a girls get away) and we had a wonderful time. Hoping to go back next year with my husband and older daughter so they can experience it. Our villa was in the 600's which we found to be great - nice and central to the main pool area without walking too many stairs. 700 & 800 villas were above us - had a better view I imagine. Have a great vacation - I'm already envious! Mindy from Calgary

Grin ... thats gonna have to be a virtual beer. I'm headed for Cuernavaca in a month and don't really have anything else planned. Maybe in Melaque next winter?

done Sparky! Thanks for the pick me up!

I have stayed at his place it has a great view and is quiet. You can find it on this webpage under La Manzanilla. It is called Villa Montana

Its is at the end of the road in Las Brisas, right next to La Posada, I have not stayed there but the area is very nice

Back in the 1970's Manuel and I travelled from Guadalajara to Manzanillo. It was absolutely a beautiful area and quite "untouristy." You could only get there by car or horse or walking! We stayed in a hotel downstairs of which connected to the beach. We were there for 3 or 4 happy days. I lost track of Manuel Naranja. He was from a village nearby Manzanillo, but I can't remember the name. I would like to think Manuel settled in Manzanillo. Does anyone know him? If so, email me at RevDrSteveCude@aol.com Thanks. Steve Cude

Back in the 1970's Manuel and I travelled from Guadalajara to Manzanillo. It was absolutely a beautiful area and quite "untouristy." You could only get there by car or horse or walking! We stayed in a hotel downstairs of which connected to the beach. We were there for 3 or 4 happy days. I lost track of Manuel Naranja. He was from a village nearby Manzanillo, but I can't remember the name. I would like to think Manuel settled in Manzanillo. Does anyone know him? If so, email me at RevDrSteveCude@aol.com Thanks. Steve Cude

Does anyone have comments on visits to Grand Bay Hotel Isla Navidad?? The resort looks beautiful - how is the food?? Thanks, Heather

it made number one in the 10 best resorts in mexico on the latest travel-channel special. i just assume that would include a food review. there is info on this web site about them ... and the hotel is actually in barra de navidad more pictures at http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/melaque

I use to mt. bike all over the hills before it was built. I think its quite pricey for the area. Check out www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals for better prices. adios! dan

Anyone have any comments and/or photos of their visit to the Blue Bay Manzanillo? I have trip reports of my trips to Mexico here: members.home.net/ourvacations

My wife and I are taking the family ( daughters 5, 4, and 14 mos.) to Maeva in April and we were concerned about the water. I understand that there is bottled water for drinking, but what about some foods like vegetables rinsed with water? Any insight on this would be greatlty appreciated.

Two years ago, we stayed one night at the Grand Bay just to say we did. Paid 275 per night (USD). I guess it was worth it for a once in a life time experience. We met a Canadian couple at the pool who had us stay with them for a night on their large boat (yacht?) and then they cruised us to Tenacatita the next day for snorkeling. Incidentally, the rack rate for the room was over 300. but I worked on the manager and since the occupancy was so low he did better on the price. We ate at the hotel restaurant last April and the food was very good and pretty expensive for Mexico. Jim C Paying this amount is soo un like me. I believe in travel often, travel cheap. My portfolio was riding the crest then.

I've never had problems with fruit plates that are very common but I do stay away from uncooked vegetables in a restaurant. If you buy your own in a market and wash and prepare them yourself ... I wouldn't be concerned. It's not only the water but could include hygiene of kitchen workers in a tropical climate. The little bugs just live longer when it's warm.

We vacationed at the Maeva in Febuary 01 and had no problem with the water. The hotel has its own water purification system, which includes the water that they rinse the vegetables with. I woudn't be overly concerned, just don't eat anything that you buy in the market without washing it carefully first!! Have fun!!

We just returned (March, 2001) from a one week all-inclusive package at Las Hadas and found your comments to be right on the money. The grounds and room (club) were 5 star but the food and service were terrible. The Las Hadas staff treat you like crap if you are wearing the all-inclusive wrist bracelet. Needless to say, we have no plans to return. Peter

Hi! We are going to Club Maeva in April with 3 children age 3 to 5 and wondering about those stairs and distances. Any suggestions about the best room numbers to request? How about babysitting? What programs are best suitable for a 4 and a 5 year old? Do the parents stay with them? Any idea what to bring for the kids and for a 1 year old? Thanks for any advice. Aniko

Does anybody have any tips on taking daytrips or just sort visits with little kids around Manzanilla? Thanks

Todd, My daughter and I were at Club Maeva at the end of February. We both drank the water, ate everything including vegetables, fruit, salad, etc. and never had any problems. Have a great trip!

I was there recently with my 8 yr old daughter. I would suggest a room in the 200 series for you. I don't know about babysitting but Mini Club has different activities geared for different age groups. They have a schedule that you can look at. When we took the girls there I noticed that they tied different colored yarn on their wrists (for the different age groups). Parents do not stay with the kids when at Mini Club. The Mini Club is fenced and gated - you have to ring a bell at the gate. Inside they have their own little pool, a playground, their own restaurant - it's all self-contained. The kids all loved going there - the maevamigos are great. Have fun!

I am also looking at the Palma Real Resort. Have you received any comments or knowledge regarding this resort and if so, please let me know. Thank you Cathy

Just got back from two weeks at Club Maeva...had an excellent time! The highlight of the trip was scubadiving with Jorge and Kylie of Neptune's Scuba. They come to CLub Maeva at 4 pm everyday to do an introduction to scuba...and if you're interested to take another lesson and do an ocean dive...as well as the scuba certification program. I must say these guys were just great---excellent instruction, GREAT equipment, and an infinite amount of patience! They made something that was a fear for me such a fantastic experience! They are definately the ones to go with in Manzanillo! Oh...the BTW, they were recommended to me by someone else on this board! Thanks!

Mark, Right on!!! I just got back from Manzanillo and also went diving with Neptune's Scuba. They were excellent! Their equipment was great, their instruction superb and their enthusiasm was infectious!!! Jorge and Kylie definately made the whole experience one to remember! Now, we want to go back and get certified! Guys, definately check out Neptune's Scuba---they will put your fears to rest and make your diving experience a true pleasure!

We were in Manzanillo for a week in February and rented a car with a local agency. Auto Rentas De Mexico is located in Las Brisas, Manzanillo and is close to hotels such as Las Hadas, Karmina, Sierra, Maeva and Plaza Las Glorias. We rented the Cutlass at $50US per day with tax, insurance and unlimited mileage included They delivered the car to our hotel and picked it up after we were done with it. They also offer a car and condominium package at a reasonable rate. They showed us the Roca Del Mar beachfront unit and I must say it was a beautiful place. Contact Alan Delgado for information on this package and car rentals.

If you wish to book a car with Auto Rentas De Mexico please contact Alan Delgado at <> you can e-mail at <> Their office is located in Las Brisas and their phone number is (3) 333 2580. They offer good ates and excellent service. They also deo tours to the city of Colima and to Barra De Navidad, Jalisco. Their fleet includes a few 4 door Nissan compacts, a 4 door Ford Fiesta hatchback and 3 Suburbans.

Hi Has anyone stayed at coconuts by the sea?? My boyfriend and I are flying into PV and driving down to Manzanillo and are looking for places to stay that aren't too expensive!! All suggestions will be helpful! thanks!! T

Try www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

Village of La Manzanilla and its beach, Barra De Navidad for food, Tenacatita for snorkeling, swimming and food, Melaque for stores and food (all north 50 k's)

I just got back from Club Maeva a couple of says ago and yes they do have ketchup there. I only saw it in the Blue Seagull Restaurant (it's the big open blue and white one on the opposite side of the pool as the bar and the Happy Hut) Have fun!

Hi Sheree; Unfortunately, I didn't see you there even though you and yours were there at the same time as me and mine. Because of our earlier conversations, I was looking for you. John my husband was at the tennis courts where you said we might see you but no luck. Wasn't it fabulous?! We had the very best vacation. Everything was great. We started out in room 666 but felt kind of weird about the number. None the less we stayed for half of the week then moved to 112 for the rest of our week so to be closer to the action. Everything was great! Both John and I had a sick day. It must have been something we ate cause we were both sick to our stomach within the same 12 hour period. Aren't the evening shows great? Both my girls and I got our hair braided. If you care to send me your email I will send you a picture of us/me while at the resort and you can see if you recognize me from the resort or not. I'll bet you will know me if you see me. The youngest of our girls enjoyed the kids club and requested to go back each day. She met friends there too. I even had to cancel a day trip for her because she didn't want to miss the kid's club. Well I'm sorry that I didn't get to meet you. Write back if you like and we can share experiences. Nice talking to you Sheree! Karen

We just got back from Club Maeva in Manzanillo and I must advise not to take the kids on the 8 hour trip to Colima and the volcano. It's boring for kids. Originally we were all 5 of us scheduled to go but the younger 2 kids wanted to go to the kids club at the resort so we gave in and I'm so glad that we did. The trip was not worth the $82. american /person that we paid. Certainly not for the kids (even though 10 and under are half price). My husband got sick to his stomach in the night on the night before the trip and couldn't go on the trip but the tour guides would not reimburse him the $82 that he paid so we lost that. I guess you must give 24 hours notice. Any tour involving ocean water, like snorkeling, might be good to avoid. We took our kids on the snorkelling trip and the salt water was too hard on them. The ocean water is pretty cold for the little ones, too. Generally all tours, I believe, are for adults. Let the kids enjoy the resort and what it has to offer. You'll be glad you did....and richer for it too.

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Hey all, great board here... I'm a 22 yr old University graduate from west coast Canada. I'll be moving down to Mexico in the coming September '01, and hopefully finding work there. Right now i'm looking for any job contacts, travelling info/partners etc... I have a Business degree with a ton of Marina experience. Will I be able to find work and how much will living expenses be? (I'm budget!) Thanks for the feedback, appreciated! Mason

Hi Mason, The Club Meava allways come down to Canada in August to fined some of ther GO's for the next wither. We were at this hotel a few years ago and two girls from Aylmer Québec had interviews in Toronto and they went true one of the travel agencie to find out when they were comming to Canada. The were given room, board, meals and 2000 pesos a month then. So if your look for fun and something different that's the way to go. Keep in mind that you days are going to be of at lease 8, 12 or 18 hours with one day a week off. This is the adresse for Club Maeva in Manzanillo. Club Maeva Manzanillo C.P. 28200 Manzanillo, Colima, Mexico Att. El Director del personnal Hope you fullfil your dream...Good Luck

For up-to-date information about what to see and do in and around Manzaniloo:\r check out a great web-site with photos: www.gomanzanillo.com\r \r It is hosted by Susan Dearing who has lived in Mazanillo for the past fifteen years.\r \r Susan has also written a helpful guide book called:\r 'Manzanillo and the state of Colima ''Facts, Tips and Daytrips. \r \r In the book she describes all of the beaches in the Manzanillo area, things to do and places to go. There are detailed maps and descriptions of most of the hotels and restaurants. Also she features lesser known waterfalls, lakes, villages, fiestas and archeological sites. Tips at the back offers her personal experiences in Manzanillo from A to Z.\r \r The guide is updated annually to make sure the information is current.\r \r I first heard about Susan when Bruce Whipperman recommended her scuba business in his excellent, \r 'Pacific Coast Mexico Handbook'. \r \r Now that I've known Susan and Carlos Cuellar for four years, I recommend them everytime that I write a travel article about Mazanillo.\r \r My stories about Mexico appear under my name Wendy Devlin on the monthly ezine about travelling, living and working in Mexico: www.mexconnect.com\r \r Everytime I visit Manzanillo I visit their scuba shop, Underwater Scuba. The shop is located Plaza Pacifico, Avenue Audiencia Santiago just after the turn-off to hotels Las Hadas and La Sierra on the peninsula.\r \r The guide book is available in the store or you can get a copy by mail by contacting Susan at:\r (013) 333 0642\r (013) 333 3678 Fax\r Cell 044 335 850 42 044 335 803 27\r scubamex@delfin.colimanet.com\r \r Buena suerte on your next Mexican adventure! Sincerely Wendy Devlin

I was at Maeva in March and drank the tap water from my room, plus ate everything on the resort! Especially the fruit & veggies, and i never got sick at all.

Mindy! We flew into Manzanillo on March 2, and what a nasty storm. Our plane bounced around everywhere!!! It was very scary! In fact you may have even heard the story, we were on the Canada 3000 flight from Calgary. It was the talk of the week for sure! Regarding tv's and phones. Yes you do have a tv and you do get HBO, but thats about the only english channel you get, except some cartoons once in awhile, and the shows are always very appropriate. Do not call from your room!! We did, and ended up paying 200 pesos for a short call home, and numerous attempts at dealing with a poorly speaking operator! Use Canada Direct number and call from the lobby! We had a room in the 700 level, and the walk did get to be very tiring, BUT the view was absolutely unbelievable. I wouldn't have wanted anything lower. You could see pretty much the whole resort and the entire Santiago Bay! It was awesome!

I meant the shows aren't always appropriate on HBO, we encountered a couple "soft porn" shows.

Coconuts is a lovely place. There isn't much in the community of Boca de Iguanas though. Just a couple of restaurants, a couple of RV parks, a few houses, and a large idyllic beach. If you are looking to get away from the city and enjoy some tranquility in a tropical paradise, it is perfect. Tom

Hi Karen, We had a great vacation at Maeva! Aren't the shows amazing! They are getting more and more professional every year! Mendes was great ehh? Unfortunately, I wasn't at the tennis courts as much as I wanted to be--we also got sick while there...My one daughter and I during the same time as well---first time sick in Mexico!! It wasn't pretty! So, I didn't play as much as I wanted. I did go down to the courts often though, as my room was 120---right off the entrance to the courts. I wore a green/black swimsuit with a long black saran...just in case you might remember me...hahaha... Yes...I asked two "Karen's" if they were the "internet Karen"....but neither were...I think they thought I was a bit looney!! ANyways...I'm glad you had a great holiday...they whole resort caters to families---we sure enjoy ourselves there... I'll email you Karen, sheree

I'm puzzled by Mark's message. I discovered Underworld Scuba on the Net, and on arrival found both Susan and Carlos (who grew up in Texas and speaks English as well as I do) to be completely agreeable. Both were much more helpful than they needed to be in recommending hotels and so on. The equipment wasn't in disrepair and functioned perfectly. With 20 years of diving, I recognize bad equipment and dangerous diving. This wasn't it. I'm going to dive with them again this summer and, having watched Susan give part of a lesson, intend to have her certify my daughter. She's good. Can we be talking about two different Underworld Scubas? Fred Reed Washingtn, DC

By your address it looks like you are back in BC. Thanks for the invite and the walk to Cuastecomates back in November. Hope you have some stories for the Melaque board here and/or articles on Mexico Connect. Did they finish the bridge outside your door? ;)

Back on April 18, 2001. Stayed at Las Hadas 1st 3 nights, it was a dump, don't go there. Rooms smelled, food and drinks expensive, the golf for $75 was expensive with yellow grass, service bad, paid $150/night and cried all 3 nights, More like $60 motel room, the rooms were run down, you had to take 3 zillion steps to get to the beach/pool/retaurants, or take their shuttle - just too inconvenient to call it from your room. Hotel was remote so that we had to take a taxi to go to any other restaurants, which it turned out was worth the taxi fare, food was better and cheaper. Went to Karmino Palace next 3 nights (they were sold out the 1st 3 nights that we tried to reserve for) Much better here: rooms pretty, staff friendly just much nicer all the way round, thank goodness we stayed here at the end of the trip and not the other way around. We stayed at the resort for our whole stay, the beaches outside the hotels were jam packed, overun with locals there for Holy week holiday, it would have been scary to be in the midst of that crowd, the traffic kept us out of other tours as well, my husband ventured out to Grand Bay, Isla Navidad for $150/round of golf, and enjoyed it , said it was better than Pebble Beach, and just as costly, couln't believe how expensive everything was at the resort, it was Hawaiian prices with lot less to show for it. Cancun was cheaper and more beautiful if I had only know, oh well live and learn.

Hi Jill, You were in Manzanillo in the most busy week of the year. Never go for the Holy week in Mexico Cancun inculded....Go back to this place in the begining of Feb next year and you have the best holyday..So it'is all in the timing. Like you say in english you have to pay to learn. We have friends that were there last year in Feb and hade the best time and golf was great. Hope you will remeber this next year before you go...

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There are"nt many places in the world that I have"nt dived over the past 20 years, (other than Asia and Australia) but I take exception to Marks comments, not only is this Letter imature, it is also without ethics! I have dived with both Underworld & Neptune, yes Neptune is a good operation to dive with, even though its brand new, but so too is Underworld who pioneered diving in Manzanillo, Susan, Carlos, and Fernando are three of the greatest Instructors I have ever had the pleasure to know. Manzanillo is not a "Dive Destination", but its a great place for new Divers to get certified, and its a great place for certified Divers to get wet, not withstanding the poor visability, it is a very relaxing, and stress free place to dive. Competition is good in any buisness, especialy in the Dive Buisness, perhaps we will start seeing Cozumel prices now for two tank dives? Dennis Whiston Windsor, Canada

I AM PLANNING TO GO TO CLUB MAEVA MANZANILLO THIS YEAR. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME ABOUT DIVING AT THIS HOTEL SUCH AS: WHERE IS THE DIVE SHOP LOCATED; DO YOU HAVE TO LEAVE HOTEL FOR DIVING OR DO YOU DIVE FROM HOTEL'S BECH. THANKS GERARD

My family and I drove that route before, back in 98\

I'm heading to Karmina Palace soon, and wanted to know if you can snorkle right off the beach at the Hotel or somewhere within walking distance? Thanks, Mathias

Hi folks. Seems to be lots of relevant information relating to Club Maeva. The one thing that I am curious about is the cooking facilities in the rooms. My girlfriend and I are planning a September 8th trip and have booked our timeshare unit at Club Maeva. The room includes "partial kitchen". I imagine there are different styles of rooms throughout the complex but if anyone could shed some light on the subject, I'd be very appreciative. P.S. We fly into Manzanillo 3 days prior to our week at Maeva. Any suggestions on places for an active couple to spend (outside Manzanillo) these first 3 days before arriving to town. Kind regards Jay Whistler, Canada

The snorkelling off the small beach in front of Karmina Palace is not that great (although it is perfect for children, as the cove is very protected and is shallow) The beach to the right of the resort, if you were facing the water, takes seconds to reach and had pretty good snorkelling, although nothing like we have experienced in Hawaii or cozumel. The beach to the left, which is a little harder to get to, down the rocks, had great waves for boogey boarding. Sheila

Hi - Thanks for the info. On the hotel web page it mentions that it is right next to the jetty. So...is that really the end of the road? Is'nt this quite industrial as the ships come out right there? Gracias! Patricia We're thinking of this place because it looks great in the pictures and description.

Yes, it is next to the jetty and yes there are ships, but not even close to industrial. It is in a very unassuming and quiet neighborhood. I'd opt for la posada, right next door. It is way laid back and nice, email me if you have any questions Sid

There is a great restaurant across the street from la posada and one or two blocks towards the main intersection. It has a little store in it and is near the bus stop and just past the old broken down sail boat. If you get to the church you have gone too far.

Hi Jay, We were in Manzanillo in March 2001. We had a 1 bedroom unit and the kitchen cooking area very small. Not very much cooking utensils. Glad we had an all inclusive package.

I am looking for ANY information of a provider which is either located in Manzanillo or has a dialup access number for Manzanillo. I am planning on a trip but need to have access to the internet from my laptop, not an Internet Cafe Please forward ANY information to scott@datona.com Thanks ALL

I cannot tell you about a specific provider but you can rest there are ISP in Manzanillo I would check with AOL or T1MSN the latter is a joint venture between Microsoft and Telmex, the all powerfull phone company in Mexico

My wife, 2 year old daughter and I returned from Club Maeva on May 3rd, 2001. We had two rooms with two different types of kitchens. Our first room in the 700 level had a 4-burner gas stove, lots of plates and utensils, a small apartment-style fridge/freezer, and was more than adequate if you wanted to do a little cooking while at the resort. Our second room was in the 100 level (a bungalow). This room had a smaller kitchen, no utensils, the same fridge/freezer as before, but the stove had had it's burners removed. It wouldn't be what I would call a kitchenette. I hope this helps. If you want more information you can email me.

Thanks for the information. I'm getting very frustrated trying to find useful information re: Manzanillo on the web. I'll get the book you suggest and now I feel like I'm making progress -- thank you, Kathleen Everest

In March 2001 my husband and I were clients of Susan Dearing, Underworld Scuba in Manzanillo, and I would like to report our very favorable experience with her and her colleagues Carlos and Fernando. While traveling through Manzanillo on our boat, I wanted to get a PADI Open Water certification with a PADI instructor. My husband (who has his certification) and I located Susan and discussed our goals. We sought a highly skilled professional with an instructional style of patience and positive reinforcement; heavy emphasis on "safety first," and solid theory and practice of all the fundamentals. Susan and her colleagues more than exceeded our high expectations. As a rank beginner at the advanced age of 53, I was given personalized and very caring attention by Susan. She also allowed -- even encouraged -- my husband to accompany me on all pool work and dives, so that we could practice being "buddies." This was invaluable, and just one of the many good ideas that she tailored especially for us. After my required book study and pool work, Susan took me on four open water dives. She never left my side, always making sure I was "okay" and never outside my comfort zone. We practiced the required underwater maneuvers at my own pace. Had I needed more than four dives to complete my certification requirements, she made it clear she would have extended the instruction and given me as much time as I needed. With that reassurance, I think I progressed faster. I'm sure there are many good dive instructors out there, but I believe Susan and her team are exceptional for their level of caring, supportive instructional style, personalized attention and strenuous focus on safety. I would heartily recommend Underworld Scuba to anyone -- novice or experienced diver. And if you are a cautious beginner like I was, I don't think you could find a more favorable learning environment for conquering fear and learning to ENJOY the diving experience! Janet McClintock John Imle Bagan2@aol.com aboard M/V "Bagan" in Fakarava, Tuomotus, French Polynesia

Here is a pic of the kitchen in our two bedroom villa 658: http://members.home.net/tryder/manzanillo/DCP00564.JPG My friends and I were there from April 3rd to the 10th of this year. We had the all inclusive package as well, so all we really ended up using was the fridge to keep our bottled water cold. Troy Kelowna, BC

This area was mentioned to us recently. Apparently 1& hour north of Manzanillo. If anyone has been to or knows of the spot, I'd love to hear from you... Thanks much ! Myron

Its www.las-alamandas.com adios! www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

We have stayed at this "hotel" twice, although not for a couple of years. The units were very nice at that time and well kept. It is a hike up and down the hills to the rooms, but they do have a golf cart that will bring you back and forth is you like. It is quite a distance from the center of town by driving. You would need a car to do any site-seeing. We much prefered it to the Sierra which was noisy and filled with partiers. There is a restaurant around the corner named Le Recife (or close to this) which is excellent and the view is even better. We would defintely stay at the Real again.

I also made the drive in the 1999. We left PV in a rented VW open back and had a really fun trip. We did not find it scary at all. It took us about 4 1/2 hours and we drove pretty fast. We were stopped only once on each leg of the trip, just a brief look in one piece of the luggage and we were on our way. Maybe I am more used to driving to Mexico than some -- just got back from a drive from Phoenix to Rosario, south of Mazatlan ( stayed in Kino, San Carlos, Navojoa, Rosario.) the stops by the federales, mexican narcocops, agricultural agents etc. are not inconveniet any more. In the Costa Alleger we have stayed at the Hotel Legazapi, Las Palmas, La Paloma, and Grand Bay. Quite a range of amenities and costs. Oh also Marcia's Place. We have seen Coconuts and would love to stay there. It has a setting that is one of a kind. Jim C

Hi, you can purchase the tel cards there and they work great. SUre beats calling collect. The cell phone I think you have to have it set up down there with a new number and then you can use it with a calling card or some sort but it is a pain to go through all of that. Our company Quest here and also Verizon block all calls out of MExico n their system as I called and they said they only offer it to people who live in the border towns of Texas. So there you go hope it helped you out. Barb

Nextel offers "global" cell phone services and Mexico is included. The problem is (like all cell services), you need to be in the service area and those are only high population areas. There is no such thing as satellite connections while you roam the wilds anywhere in the world. www.nextel.com has the info but it looks like what business people would need ... and not the average tourist. They have maps of service areas.

Does anyone know the name of manager of Casablanca Alamar in Santiago ( Manzanillo ) I need to write/fax them in hopes of booking accomodation for 2002, Thanks in advance Pat

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Hi, This is a great bulletin board I found through Google!! I need some suggestions for my trip. I am planning my first trip to Mexico in October for my birthday. Here are the things that are most important to me: I want some place that is a resort with a spa (or that at leasts offers massages) I prefer a smaller hotel not crowded some place on the beach a place that had more adults than families a place that single women would feel safe near a small town to do some shopping dico/nightlife not that important I was thinking of the Karmina Palace because their website is impressive and all of the comments I have read have been positive. One question, how is the beach outside of the hotel? Is the water safe to go into? Is it clean? It does not have to be an all inclusive resort but I figured that would make it easier for me when it comes to drinks and dining. As you can guess, I really want some place where I can relax on the beach or by the pool. Thanks for your help in advance.

In view of your criteria, my advice would be not to get fixated early on any one place, because there are hundreds if not thousands of facilities in Mexico that would more than meet what you're looking for. October is low season and you'll have no trouble finding accomodations almost anywhere. I would suggest looking into Puerto Vallarta; it's got everything you list and there are many, many places to choose among, from the very fanciest to the most basic. It's also a very safe and tourist-friendly place that's ideal for a first Mexico visit; i.e. you can choose the very safe but insulated all-inclusive route, PLUS you can go into town and other local areas and have a much richer and more authentic experience than in almost any other resort area in Mexico.

Jennifer, I have travelled to Manzanillo, also to Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo. Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo is a wonderful combination of all inclusive resorts in Ixtapa the tourist zone, and Zihuatanejo the small town is a short (15 minute) bus ride away. There are wonderful accomodations and depending on your budget, what you want to do, etc would be a great place for a woman on her own. If you choose this destination there are great all inclusive accomodations in Ixtapa but I would prefer accomodations on La Ropa or Madera Beaches in Zihuatanejo. Hint prior to committing to your accomodations find out how "many steps" is it to the beach as some accomodations are located hillside in Zihuatanejo. Here is the link for more information and a great message board http://www.mexico-Zihuatanejo.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi or contact Lucia Gayon www.meximum.com or email service@meximum.com. I met lucia last year on vacation and she is a wonderful person and a delight and very much on the up and up. Zihuatanejo was a super place to wonder around, very clean, the water is clear and warm. Manzanillo, is also a delight, possibly more rural, a bit cooler temperature wise, the water can be very rough especially during a full moon. I feel there are more opportunities to take different daytrips in Manzanillo. There are fewer restaurants and fewer places to shop if this is important to you.Mazanillo was my first trip to Mexico and I loved it. In fact I liked it so much I am planning to return for vacation this winter. Although both Manzanillo and Zihuatanejo have lots to offer, my recommendation would be try Zihuatanejo first.Manzanillo 2nd. Personally I do not care for large tourism mecca's and would stay away from them.

I just found out that my husband and I have won a trip to Manzanillo and I'm thrilled to see this part of Mexico. The accomadations require that I stay at the Dolphin Cove Inn. I have seen the website but it doesn't show very much and I am wondering if anyone can shed some light on this place? I've read many messeges on these boards that are very favorable towards the All- inclusive resorts (Karmania,etc.) and their food situations....is there many options for those who must rely on dining out "in the city" I am a little scepticle(?) and unsure if I should accept this prize (the prize didn't include airline tickets just lodging). Thanks Nicolle

Oh, please be careful, there are so many scams out there, and while you may genuinely and deliberately entered a bona fide contest, and are the lucky winner;I would be extremely leery of "winning" anything out of the blue. This is particularly true when your "prize" entails spending money{air fare} to be able to take advantage of it. Get as much info in writing as you can, and make sure that you are not required to purchase your tickets through a specific company as a condition of redeeming your free stay - you may end up paying an inflated price for the air. I have also know of cases where people have been charged unexpected and excessive "taxes' by the hotel, or have discovered that the whole setup is simply a come-on by timeshare promoters. DO NOT send any money , or give out a credit card number, any company that charges a 'service fee' or 'administrative charge' for a supposed prize is most definitely bogus. I hate to burst your bubble, and as I said, you may not be a potential scam victim, but ask lots of questions. Oh, and by the way, no hotel in the world offers free nights to "promote a new property" or "fill empty rooms in low season" so if you are given either of these lines warning bells should be ringing like the clappers. I truly hope I am wrong in this case, but my cynical nature smells a rat. Keep us posted - Sara

Sara, Thanks for the post....I guess I should have explained things better. I won this prize as a drawing from our local Chamber of Commerce through a very reputable travel agency that I have worked with before. I will take your advise about making sure that everything is handled properly and I'll ask many questions. I am hoping to find someone that is familiar with the property and can give me some insight to its' location in relation to shops, restaurants, scuba diving etc. I know the travel agent should be able to give me all this information but I'd like to find out from an "unbiased" or alternative method, just in case. Thanks, Nicolle

Nicolle, The dolphin cove sounds wonderful. Looks like it is built onto the hill, find out how many steps down/up to your accomodations. In some cases it can be 5 minutes going down hill and a 20 minute climb up especially on these steep inclines. The location is by Las Hadas. Find out if you have access to the beach at and services of Las Hadas. The restaurants in Manzanillo are wonderful. You may need to take lots of taxis as this accomodation is in "very hilly" territory. Another great site to visit is www.gomanzanillo.com Keep me posted on the accomodations pros and cons plus your trip. Enjoy. Pat

I just found out more info on the Dolphin Cove Inn. They are "Condo rentals at Playasol Las Hadas". Meaning right next to Las Hadas. IT's about 40 untits and located right on the hillside.It sounds as though it has wonderful views! WE have access to the beach immediatley in front of our condo and it's called "Playa del Tesoro". I think that is the same beach that Karmina is on (?)However, we are right on the marina and pictures indicate a very small beach (if any).My agent says it's about a 10 minute walk to the beach. It has one swimming pool and a "kiddie" pool. I did find out that we will have to book our flight through Alaska Airlines because that is who the "package" is through. So far the price the travel agent has quoted is cheaper than what I can find on the internet. SO far so good. Nicolle

The name of the restaurant is LA RECIFE. Your other advisors were incorrect. They were correct in so far as it is situated adjacent to Vida del Mar.

Sound lovely, and I'm glad this is the real thing, in fact, now I'm just plain jealous!

Hi, Club Maeva has contracted with Neptune's for all its scuba and snorkeling. You can check out neptunes at www.neptunesdiving.com or visit them at the poolside at the Maeva. Have fun Eva

Pat, are you talking about the Casablanca on Olas Altas? If so, I think I can get the info for you. I have a condo for rent at Las Gaviotas just a couple of blocks from Casablanca on Olas Altas if you were interested.

I have read some of the interesting emails concerning all of the diving in Manzanillo. It is about time that the place had some competition, given that Underworld Scuba was the only shop in town. It seems that both shops have a number of loyal customers, although Neptunes given its short time in the buisness, seems to be making a lot more people happy. Given that there are now two shops in town, any diver in Manzanillo, should at least consider talking with both shops before deciding who they entrust their lives too. For me; and I can only speak for myself, it was the condition of the air compressor. Neptunes by far had the better equipment. Good luck to both shops, and keep the competition strong robert

Hi Wendy, I thought this was an unbiased board. Your letter is nothing more than an advertisement hidden as a friendly email... Why not advertise for your friends the way we all have too, by paying. james

just like yours or anyone else's. It is also not required to pay to post here ... so what was your "argument" again? If you have info to post ... please do. It just so happens that Wendy knows the West Coast of Mexico better than most of us (and you it would seem) ... so her information should at least be listened to without this biased criticism. Gracias

I would have to agree with Robert. I am sure both places have their loyal customers, especially Underworld as it has been open for so long. Unfortunately, Carlos has a habbit of chosing who he is pleasant to, perhaps it depends on the day and my day he wasn't so pleasant. On the other hand, the entire staff at Neptune's is a joy!

I'd like to thank Wendy for being a great source of information on Manzanillo. My only suggestion is to get up-to-date as often as possible. That way others won't see her writings here as biased. There is another dive shop called Neptune's Diving and SPorts Center which also gives a wonderful service. I think it is great that Manzanillo has two dive shops now which will hopefully make it a more widely known location for diving. THe more people want to dive, the more will come to Manzanillo. Copetition is good for business! So perhaps Wendy can learn more about some of the new businesses in town and let everyone know about them! thanks

Maybe this other Dive Shop should have a web page for both their business and tourist attractions in the area. Thats a much better approach than James's above ... or yours complaining that someone forgot something in a post. Make your public exposure a positive thing and forget this complaining. If you have a web page ... please post it!

Sparks you sound very defensive! I was not making a complaint, merely a suggestion. If you read carefully you might note I was thanking Wendy. And if you do recall, this message board is useful for folks who want to learn about the area...The more information posted the better. The more people are interested in coming to Manzanillo, the more business. Everyone wins. It is regretable that you and whomever else need to harber such harsh feelings. I wish you well. p.s. Neptunes does have a website www.neptunesdiving.com

Thanks for wishing me well. I have no harsh feelings about any of this. On the other hand I don't see the need to criticize Wendy and this Web Site just because someones business was not mentioned in a post. """"www.neptunesdiving.com """" We should have been educated by someone posting the web site (or something else - hard to tell what was bothering james) .... rather than this "james wilson" post which was totally negative. I'm glad you Neptuners are getting this off your chests .... but the world is not always fair ... and sometimes you need to work (making a living) harder than you would like.

Sparks, I detect some animosity here. Chill. This is a message board. Let's just wish all businesses in Manzanillo well. Here's to prosperity!

My boyfriend and I are headed there in two weeks. Has anybody recently been there? Anything we should know about? Do they really water down the drinks? My boyfriend is a big, big fisherman. I've read a couple of reports about the fishing down there. Does anyone have any comments they would like to make? Has anyone had any problems with leaving their valuables locked in the safe in the rooms? Any comments would gratefully be appreciated. R

HI The Karmnina palace is beautiful, but yes we did hear of some problems with leaving valuables in your room. Just don't take any!! The rooms that seemed to have the problems were the ones with the little window by the front door, so try not to get one of those. We went in May and the fishing wasn't very good, but of course you will be there in July. Ask the taxi drivers they know everything. The drinks are fine and besides you can have as much as you want so if they are watered down it may be a blessing. You can always ask foryour favorite brand of drink and they will be happy to accomoddate you. Have a wonderful time, the pool area is great and has live entertainment, very fun. Good food also Write if you have any other questions Luanne timlu@gateway.net

Such a wonderful time you will have no matter where you pick. HOwever if you want beuatiful water to swim in then Playa Del Carmen is a must. It is on the Caribbean side and is so nice. The town is quaint but large enough to have lots of bars and restaurants. They have an ALlegro resort there which is nice and if you want somewhere fantastic try the Royal Hideaway. There are lots of other all inclusive try the Riviera Maya web site for ideas. Regarding the Karmina palace it is very nice howver it has a bay, not a beach, but of course you can take taxis to the beach. I think that Playa del Carmen is easier to get around you can actually walk the entire town. The Allegro is out a couple of minutes just a quick taxi ride, or if you love a long walk you could do that. Puerto Vallarta is always nice, very romantic and has lots to offer also and is usually cheaper both in airfare and lodging. ALso has lots of restaurants and fun places. Please feel free to contact me if you have any othere questions. Luanne timlu@gateway.net

No, not really it is more a bay and not that great for snorkeling. You may want to go out to one of the islands and try your luck there. Have fun it is a beautiful resort Luanne

Luanne: Thanks so much for the response. With some of the comments, you have to read inbetween the lines but your comments were very encouraging. I will take note of the room location thanks to you. Rose P.S. I will toast you with a drink while I'm down there - watered down or not!

Take as few (little) as possible .. like jewelry or expensive watches. A hotel front desk security box will cost more than you think (ask first) .. not often included. Take the GOOD ZipLock bags (zipper type) or fancier models at travelers stores ... that allow you to go swimming with credit cards and cash.

I've booked an all inclusive at Club Maeva for this Saturday. I'm just wondering if anyone knows whether or not there are day spas in the area around club Maeva. Also, what was the snorkelling like? The other thing I haven't been able to find out from the travel brochures if whether or not the all inclusive drinks includes margheritas or tecquila (excuse my spelling). Muchos thanks!!!

Thanks. The zip lock bag idea is excellent. R

Can anyone recommend any good restaurants near the Grand Bay Hotel. I've heard the food is good at the hotel - but expensive. Your help is appreciated.

In October, my wife and I are planning a trip to Manzanillo for our second anniversary. I am wondering which resort, Club Maeva or Karmina Palace, is a better place for us to stay (we are looking to stay seven nights). Here is what is important to us: A clean place to stay, good food (although we're not too picky), friendly service, no hassles, excellent service, and fun activities. A disco at night is also important (I realize the nightlife in Manzanillo probably isn't too exciting, but at which of these resorts is it better?). Also, I really am looking forward to being able to relax and not have to feel crowded at certain times. I can see us spending a lot of time relaxing by the pool, so nice pools are a bonus. An added plus is having a beach with snorkeling near by, and being able to kayak, paddleboat, etc. Does anyone have any advice? Well I be OK either way? We just want a beautiful place to stay and relax. Please help!

Hello John - My wife and I along with our 7 yr old son will be leaving for Manzanillo on July 11 for a 7 night stay at the Karmina Palace. I'll let you know how it works out. If you look farther down on this message board you'll find some additional comments on the Karmina Palace. From all the comments we determined that's its the best place to stay. Ben

Take the complimentary boat across to Barra De Navidad. They have some small beach restaurants. Went to 1 that was recommended by the hotel, cant remember the name, but it was really good. They are all beach front and fun. We only ate at the Grand Bay once. It was definately overpriced. We ate every other night in Barra.

Hi John, From experience the Karmina palace is what your looking for. The Club Meava is at times very crowded and noisy. Don't take me wrong her the meave is very clean but for the fun on the beach stuff you have to go acrosse the street to get it. The main pool has a lot of activites and lots of young teens arrouned. There's an adult pool also the rooms are clean but if you want something quite your room if going to be in the 700 and lost of staires to clime. This is a party place... For an anniverserie I would go the Karmina way. You can have a nice intimate dinner for two by the ocean and nice latino dancing at arround 10h30. There's all kind of activites and the rooms they are first class nice bathroom with everything you need. They have 8 pool all interconnected so you can always find a quite spot and the kids have there own place away from the rest. The beach activites are easy to access and on site. If your a golfer you just have to cross the street and hole number 1 is just there. They have a great web site have a look at it: www.karminapalace.com Have a safe trip Lyne

Although we did not stay at Club Maeva, we did check it out when we were at Karmina Palace in January, as we had originanly booked there and then changed it. THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!!! Karmina Palace is a gorgeous resort with eight cascading pools that are incredibly landscaped, beautiful rooms, very good service, pretty good, but not excellent food, and for a couple it would be really fantastic. If you go, definitely book at the reservations only restaurant, Carioca, and ask for the table that is hidden away - it is down some stairs, at the water's edge, and really private and romantic. The only circumstance I could see anyone choosing Club Maeva over KP would be if they had kids who were REALLY activity oriented, as there is more to do at CM. However, our kids loved KP, and never were bored. We were very happy with the choice we made when we saw CM, as it is quite old, really sprawling, and we talked to people on the plane home who had stayed there who said that the rooms were quite musty, and that it could take up to 20 minutes to walk to the beach if your unit was at the top of the hill. Having said that, I know some families really enjoy CM, and the beach is defintely better there.Overall, though, Karmina Palace is in a whole different class. I have a lenghty review I would be happy to email you. Sheila

I wrote a lengthy review after our visit to Karmina Palace in January. I think it is too long for this site, so I have emailed it to you, but I will try posting it here as well. We did find the drinks pretty weak, which I didn't mind since I was drinking margaritas, etc., but my husband usually ordered doubles as he likes to taste the alcohol. It also helps if you are ordering right from the bar to tip the first couple of times, as the drinks seem to suddenly get stronger (even thought tipping is included at the resort!) We really enjoyed the resort and did not hear about any thefts, but we did tend to use the safe, since you could actually climb over the balcony wall to get to the untis beside you fairly easily. Overall, we had a great time. Sheila

Here is a slightly shortened copy of our review of Karmina Palace in January: We have just returned from a stay at Karmina Palace, an all-inclusive resort in Manzanillo, Mexico. The resort itself is just gorgeous. It is well laid out, on a property that slopes to the ocean with a series of pools with waterfalls cascading down the slope. The building is C shaped building with wings on either side of the pool area. The foliage is lush, with beautiful bouganvilias and other flowers. Our room was large and spotless. The suite we were in was one big room, with a sunken living area with table and chairs, plus pull out couch. When you walked in the door, the bathroom was on the left, a vanity area with closets on either side was on the right, and the bedroom area straight ahead. You went down a couple of steps to the living area, with large chair, pull out couch, table and four chairs, and TV unit with mini fridge. Sliding doors led from this to a large balcony. h The two closets are huge, and there are two TV cabinets with drawers and cupboards. The bathroom is really spacious, with a large tub that has a glass doored shower stall on one side, and a glass doored toilet area on the other. There were two sinks on opposite sides of the room (one for my daughter, the other for the other three of us!) the glass doors were etched with the Karmina logo, and it looked beautiful, with lots of marble. Most days the maid left the towels folded in a fan, with fresh flowers on top. The beds were really comfortable - unusual for hotel rooms, from my experience. There was a blanket and comforter, and we tended to use them both, and keep the air conditioning on all night. The a/c was very quiet, not rattley like a lot of places I have been to, and it helped cover any noises from outside. (Although that wasn't really a problem - we found the rooms to be very quiet - the disco was out on the point, so you couldn't hear it in the room if the balcony doors were closed.) Although in general I recommend Karmina Palace, it is not for everybody. I think it would not be the best choice for singles who want to party - the resort and the surrounding area is pretty quiet. The singles I saw that seemed to be having the most fun were hanging out with the entertainment and activity staff. They are a great group, a mixture of Canadians and Mexicans, ages about 19 to 27. They were at the disco every night, and often would take a group to a bar off the hotel site after the disco closed. (my 16 year old daughter was asked to go one night, and was quite dismayed that we didn't let her!) I talked to a couple of young people that did go, and they said they had a blast. As far as for families, Karmina Palace worked for us, but if you really want a lot of kids activities, you might want to go somewhere like Club Maeva. Our kids had no troubel keeping busy, though -they went out in the kayaks, and went boogie boarding at the beach next to the resort and went snorkeling. All that equipment was included. For about $8 Canadian, they went on a 15-minute ride on a banana boat being pulled by a motor boat, which they really enjoyed. There are 7 or 8 interconnected pools, and the area around them is beautifully landscaped. One pool is adults only. The various pools kept our son pretty occupied. Although the signs say no diving or jumping in the pools, there were three ledges with waterfalls that kids jumped off all the time, and no one seemed to stop them. The water slide is really fast, and our son loved it. (An earlier review mentioned seeing injuries from the water slide, and also from slipping around the pool - we did not witness either, and did not find the area around the pool to be very slippery at all.) We did not go to Karmina Palace with very high expectations of the food, partly because of earlier reviews we saw, and also from hearing reports from friends who had gone to various all-inclusive resorts who never had much praise for the food. On the whole, we were pleasantly surprised. Apparently they have been really working on the food since having a rocky start when they first opened in '99. We have been on a few cruises, and the food was certainly not of that caliber (actually, not even close!), but we ate well and enjoyed most dishes. (Plus, I enjoyed not being restricted to specific mealtimes like on the cruise.) There are quite a few different options for meals. For breakfast, the only choice is Bugambilias restaurant, for lunch you can go to Bugambilias or the Grill, and for dinner either of those, or the Carioca restaurant. In addition to this, there is 24 hour room service, and you can get hot-dogs and hamburgers at the BBQ pool side during the day. The reservations only restaurant, the Carioca, was very nice, but very hard to get in to. Here is a tip - email the resort (reservations@karminapalace.com) the day before you go and ask for a reservation for your first night. I did this (I threw in the request when I was writing to ask for two double beds instead of a queen), and when we checked in, there was note a saying our reservation had been made. I didn't realize how smart this was until I tried to get a reservation for the next few days and failed! You could only book it on the same day, between 7 and 9:30 am, either by calling or going in person to Bugambilias restaurant - except the reservations were usually full by 7:30 am. We liked the Grill the best, and went there for lunch each day and dinner some nights. there was always a salad bar, and serve yourself pizza and fries. At lunch there was usually a "make your own sandwich" bar, with cold cuts, etc. You could also order a variety of Mexican dishes from the menu. Our favorites were the Cheese Quesidillas and the Mahi Mahi kebabs. You could order pizza made to order as well. Each evening there was a different theme for dinner. We went to the big buffet a few nights - it was usually held at the Mayan theatre, where the shows were held, and it also had different themes each night, some better than others. The 24-hour room service was excellent. Our kids often ordered breakfast in the room while my husband and I went to Bugambilias. (the kids didn't like the breakfast there as much as we did. We enjoyed all the fresh fruit, and the made to order omelets, but the hot Mexican dishes weren't our thing. They did have a kid's buffet at breakfast, with cereals like Froot loops and Cocoa Krispies that a lot of kids went for!) The room service breakfast included things not available in the restaurant, like waffles, and my son loved ordering the pancakes as they usually came shaped like Mickey Mouse! There was also a good club sandwich on the menu, and my son often ordered the fries as a late night snack. If you order Nachos, ask for real cheese, not the sauce (unless you are one of those people who like that orange nacho sauce!) The chips are round and quite thick - not what we are used to. We actually bought a couple of bags of Doritos tortilla chips from the grocery store, and ordered guacamole and salsa to go with them a few times. The guacamole was really good. You could get it at the Grill, but you had to ask for it, as it wasn't on the menu. The fridge in the room was stocked with cans of Pepsi, 7 up and bottles of water. We asked for diet Pepsi (Pepsi Light down there) instead, and most days that was what we got (and when we didn't, we ordered a six pack from room service!) The drinks from the bar tended to be fairly weak. My husband likes to taste the alcohol, so he ordered doubles most of the time. The Sangria was excellent, and I enjoyed a drink called a Miami Vice - it is sort of a strawberry Pina Colada. Our kids were almost never seen without some kind of tropical drink in their hand (virgin, of course!) We went to the shows each night, and always enjoyed them even though they were often pretty corny. One night there were professional dancers from Colima City, but the other nights the resort's entertainment staff put the shows on. A couple of the nights they did a song and dance show, and they were pretty good. The Grammy night was a lot of fun. I understand that several of them are leaving soon, so that could change things. They were a mixture of Canadians and Mexicans and were all really friendly. The shows that were a real hoot were the audience participation ones (my 16 year old daughter got pulled up twice, including one that included a beer drinking contest! Fortunately she was eliminated after drinking about half a beer!) There was also a casino night, with the entertainment staff as the dealers. They really made it fun - often telling you if you were making the wrong choice about whether to stay or take another card, and quite freely giving out the play money. Our son was quite thrilled that he won enough at blackjack (due to some generous dealers) to get a Karmina Palace baseball cap. (they also had T-shirts, beer mugs, pens and postcards - one tip is to redeem your money for a prize as soon as you have enough, as the prizes run out. when I went to cash in, all that was left were postcards! There were a number off activities offered, although I don't know that that is really a strong point for this resort. We did enjoy some games of beach and water volleyball, and took the kayaks out a few times. My husband went on the mountain bike tour. The fitness center was excellent. As I mentioned previously, the kids club did not appeal to our son. He mainly wanted to sign out a boogie board and walk to the beach to the south of the resort and play in the waves. The beach in front of the resort is small and very protected because of the 18th hole of the golf course being on a little island, accessible by a small bridge. In some ways it was nice that the beach was so calm, as my son snorkeled there without us worrying if he was safe. To get to the beach with the good waves was just a few minutes walk. You have to go done a small cliff near the tee for the 18th hole - there are sandbags to step on as you go down, but it is still a little difficult. Then you have to cross a stream. On the weekend, there were a number of locals fishing from the beach near where the stream entered the ocean, and we walked a few minutes past them to where the waves seemed biggest. (There is an abandoned hotel - apparently condemned after the earthquake a few years ago. We went just past that, and almost had the beach to ourselves.) If you go the other way from the resort, towards Las Hadas (that is easier, as there is walkway), there is pretty good snorkeling. We took the bus to Miramar twice, across from Club Maeva. The bus is available at the entrance to the resort, and runs often, for just 3 pesos each way (about 50 cents Canadian) The first time we went just to go to the beach, which is quite good. However, after having being spoiled by the quiet at the beach of Karmina, we found the beach there too crowded, and people kept trying to braid our hair, sell us timeshares, inflatable toys, etc. That can actually be fun for a while, but I don't think I'd want to experience it every day. We went back once more, with some money this time, as there were a lot of booths selling souvenirs. We got T-shirts for about $4, and I bought a marble and onyx chess set for about $25(Canadian). On Saturdays, there is a huge flea market at Santiago about 5 minutes away by bus. All in all, it was a great holiday!

My family, a 3 yr old, 6 yr old, my wife and I have stayed at both. karmina in 2000 and maeva in 1999, We loved both and met nice peaople at both. Maeva is ALL KIDS, which was a blast for us and the kids, the waterslides are amazing, the shows were very good(much better than the 1st year Karmina was open) but the rooms and grounds have no comparision, Karmina's rooms and grounds are incredible, we loved the Karmina and will plan a trip back to see if they pollished their act with the shows and service. my oppinion - no kids- Karmina. PS the beach is a little small and uneventfull, so go down to the local beach by the Maeva and get the real feel for MEX and Maeva

We booked the trip for Karmina! With all we have heard, we are so excited to be spending our anniversary there. Thanks for all your advise in helping us make this decision. (John-I love you and can't wait!!!)

Hi! My husband and I are heading to Manzanillo on September 8th. We have tenatively booked a villa in the Roca Del Mar Complex which is located in Las Brisas beach. Has anyone been to this area and/or complex? Would much appreciate some insight. We have not chosen an all inclusive such as Club Maeva or Karminia as we think they are very overpriced. Thanks for any insight to this area!

Stayed there many times. It is on a quiet street about 1/2 mile from the main drag. Complex is nice and clean has pool, and right on beach. If you are looking to party all night, it is not the right place for you, email me if you need more info.

We stayed at Club Maeva in September of 2000 - I can highly recommend this hotel. The service was outstanding and the food was delicious. The staff all spoke english very well - some of the staff were recruited from the USA and Canada. Rooms Rooms are ocean view with a huge balcony - the higher up you go, the better the view, although the stairs get pretty steep near the top! This was the first hotel in Mexico that we've stayed at where the air conditioner actually worked and was quiet. We had a nice little family of kittens outside our hotel room that we became very attached to. Food Three restaurants - mostly buffet style but every second night you could make a reservation to eat at their "a la carte" restaurant, which served an awesome fresh salad bar, pasta dishes and wine of your choice. The dessert was fabulous! It was so nice not to have to base your decision on the price of the entree - we loved not having to carry money around. Breakfast was a large assortment of fresh fruit, juice and they had a huge selection of mexican dishes as well as the norm - pancakes and french toast - we loved their homemade hashbrowns/potato slices. This is a hotel that knew how to satisfy the taste buds! The only thing I didn't like was that there were a lot of bees around the restaurant - mostly because of all the sweet juices and desserts, but I guess the normal person wouldn't care - I just have an intense fear of bees! There was a period of about 2 hours where the main buffet restaurant closes before dinner time and they were so accommodating when we came late and were hungry - they cooked fresh fish for us. Activities/Entertainment There is a group of about 15 - 20 staff whose sole purpose is to entertain and keep the guests happy. You can do aerobics in the pool every morning with them, play volleyball, go mountain biking, horseback riding, boat trip (extra $ for the boat trip). And at night, they turn into Broadway actors! We saw some of the most amazing theatre productions and they even had a Mexican theme night with authentic Mexican food and dancers - I think the theatre made it all worthwhile. Each night after the theatre, the group would continue to carry on the party afterwards with limbo and arm restling contests at the disco - this was quite funny. I think what made this hotel stand out from any others that we have stayed at was the dedication of the staff to involve the guests and make it fun - and they really seemed to be having fun with everyone, old and young. They always got everyone up and dancing. Pools There are three pools of different sizes. There are tonnes of chairs and you can choose lots of shade or sun - never had a problem getting a chair and there was more than enough towels. Location to Beach The beach is a 5 minute walk from the hotel - you just have to cross a little bridge that goes above the highway. There is a little restaurant at the beach that is nice for lunch. Also included on the hotel grounds is waterslides - this was really fun - great for the kids! The only problem we had was when we were checking out of the hotel. They had no record of us paying and we couldn't find our receipt - we almost missed our flight because of it but in the end they were accommodating and let us go. We can honestly say this was the best vacation ever - we thought the hotel must be a 5 star and were shocked when we got home and saw in a vacation brochure that it was only a 3 - this definitely needs to upgraded! Feel free to e-mail me with any other questions you may have...jacquelina23@hotmail.com

Hi there! Just returned from a having a lovely time at the Karmina Palace. From what I have read on this site, all of the reports are pretty accurate. However, we found that there the resort (at least in the month of July) is pretty much geared to catering to a majority of Mexican tourists with their families. The staff (even the conceirge) speak very little English but despite that, it never interfered with the very enjoyable time we had there. We had a great room overlooking the Manzanillo Bay and found the rooms to be very sound proof which proves to be great if you are a light sleeper. We took a taxi to a little restaurant down the coast (sorry, don't remember the name), and walked a couple of miles back to the hotel and not once, were we approached by beach peddlers trying to sell us their goods. In fact, we didn't even see anyone trying to sell anything on the beaches. If you have been to PV or Cancun, you know what a hassle those people can be. We tended to just tip for room service and a few of the waiters but found that it really wasn't expected. Room service took appox. 35 minutes for breakfast and about an hour for lunch or dinner. We ate at Caprioca's every night even though we didn't make a reservation for the first two nights. From what we could see, the restaurant is never more that 45% full, so even if you don't make a reservation, you can turn up at the door, be polite, look hungry and they will serve you. The portions are good but very small by American standards so we learned to have an appitizer, soup, main course AND desert and that turned out to be plenty. Each night we were given a waterside table which was extremely romantic and relaxing. The disco is lame and plays 97% Mexican music. Someone mentioned about mosquitos and being fair skinned, I brought a bottle along and found it to be more than useful. They do not overwhlem you, but EVEN with bug spray, I received my fair share of bites! So, if you tend to attract bugs, bring some spray. We walked off the property and turned to the right and ended up in a little plaza which had a few uninteresting stores which at least were air conditioned. We ended up buying a six pack of Coronas and headed back to the hotel. Although the drinks are inclusive, they only served draught beer and jug wine which were both very undrinkable. And even the hard liqour was very limited. Stawberry margaritas turned out to be a staple, but after a couple of sugary drinks you tend to get a bit full, so the drink assortment was somewhat disappointing. We wanted to go on a snorkling tour but the hotel only offered one at 10:00am in the morning. Being rather a lazy couple, we arranged throught Luzy our Contacatour guide for some locals to come and pick us up and and take us on a tour around 2:00pm in the afternoon. It cost us $40 each, but it was worth it as we had our own little private tour to two sites (including a fantastic ship wreck), but, if we had asked around, we could have found the sites ourselves and taken a bus there, hired the gear and probably could have done the deal for about $15. The snorkling sites are right off shore but right around the bay about 20 minutes ride away from the Karmina. Despite that, we enjoyed the company of our young guides who showed us around the local sights and took care of us. If you are looking for your souviner T-shirts, believe it or not, I found the best buys at the airport. $5 a shirt. They were asking $16 in the plaza in town. Pluuu-eze! We don't have kids but there were plenty running around, but there is so much pool space they had plenty of room to spread out and they didn't bother us too much. If you really like space in your room, then the Karmina Palace is the place to go. The bathroom is to die for! Huge tub, sep. shower and his and hers sinks. I spent lots of time in there just primping and enjoying the space. The cable was an added bonus and we spent a couple of nights staying up late catching up on a couple of films. It's a very romantic resort and really, there is no need to go beyond the hotel even though you may feel the need to explore. We took a walk with the intent of exploring Las Hadas only to find a gate keeping us locked out with a guard very politely explaining that we would have to pay $10 (I think) to give us a one day pass onto the property. That was an insult, so we turned back. We only wanted to take a look at the property, not pay rent! Have fun, and one final comment, they do not provide hair dryers in the rooms. Happy holidaying Rose and Brad All and all, we had a great time and would highly recommend the resort.

I agree with Luanne - We went to Cancun over the Memorial Day holiday and it was a blast!! Cancun is beautiful and Playa del Carmer is about 30 minutes from Cancun -- The beaches are GORGEOUS -- it's TAHITI on a budget -- October should be a lovely time to be there and not too crowded -- the crowds get there around middle of December! If you do go, make it a must to visit XCARET Ecological Park -- you will not believe it!!

we have a week at Isla dorado--Sierra no. 30 Club Santiago,manzanillo, for the week of december 19th to dec 26. 3 bedrooms 2 baths & 2 single sofas.I do not know anything about this resort. we just got back from barra de navidad on july 18th and we did go to santiago & manzanillo but did not know we got this resort on our trade. we do not plan to go back over christmas, it is a beautiful area & much more to do then barra.I will have this week changed to your name through Interval International, we will take the first $1000.us john & helen kudriko denton texas 940-484-2311 www.kudriko@aol.com

Two rooms availables on the main street of Barra de Navidad, just 30 feet from the beach, Restaurants just across you door. The cealing is Palapa (palm tree leaf) Bathrooms out of the room Fan, Color TV, TVcable, Internet Access. visit: www.geocities.com/barradnavidad or just type: go.to/barradenavidad

Please visit the Barra de Navidad's Web Site: www.geocities.com/barradnavidad or just type: go.to/barradenavidad I recomend: Veleros restaurant (sea food, birds and beef) PIZZA HOT in Alice's restaurant Sea Master See you in barra.

We are considering driving from Puerto Vallarta to Manzanillo over highway 200 in October, 2001. Has anyone done this recently and id so, do you have any advice. Is this route fairly safe? Are there many towns along the way? Thanks for any help.

Will be there Christmas 2001. Would like info on local celebrations, any seasonal closings (museums, stores), Mass times at the Cathedral....is the antique automobile museum still in existence?

Check out the village links page and the Info links page at: www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals. Its all there! Its very safe and a nice drive!

Ask at www.gomanzanillo.com

Visited Colima 4x last winter...just couldn't get enough of the place. Although I cannot answer specifically what hours museums or stores will be keeping through the holidays, I feel confident that such a lively and beautiful place will have lots to do and see during Christmas. All the plazas get beautifully decorated and vendors are allowed to sell in them...there's likely to be many concerts in the Jardin Libertad, pastorelas at the churches... Contact the tourisme website www.visitacolima.com.mx closer to the dates of your visit. I have hopes to being down there at this time...too... Also I've submitted three articles about Colima City and the area that may go up at the monthly ezine www.mexconnect.com before your departure. Bien viaje! Sinceramente wen

We drove this stretch in April 2001. It takes about four-five hours to Manzanillo but there are many beautiful beaches and small villages to stop at along the way. If you are not in any hurry....linger...check out www.tomzap.com for visitors comments and descriptions of this area. Bien viaje. Sinceramente wen

is their anyone from vancouver that reads this site? we would like to go this fall and would like some info. where to stay & ead[downtown] and some of the sites. wwwkudriko@aol.com

than people from Vancouver .... I mean gee, they live there!

we had to put up with YOUR photos from [my vacation] give me a brake. also I gave my email address , so take more pictures so we all can be board.

yes I know my little web site is pretty funky but at least it is of Mexico. if you need any info from Seattle just let me know. maybe this message board migrates with the season just like many of us. even you crazy Cajun's cheers

HI I READ YOUR LETTER AND AM GETTING EXCITED. WE ARE GOING TO THE KARMINA PALACE IN JANUARY IVE BEEN READING ALL THE IMFORMATION I CAN IT LOOKS VERY NICE. WAS THERE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED TOWN AND WAS THERE ENOUGH TO KEEP YOU BUSY FOR A WEEK. ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE GOING NO KIDS ACUALLY THERE ARE 5 COUPLES GOING WITH US AND I AM THE VACATION PLANER FOR EACH YEAR THIS PLACE INTERESTED ME. A LOT OF THE LETTERS I HAVE READ EVERY BODY SEEMS TO LIKE IT A FEW HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS BUT I THINK EVERY WHERE YOU GO YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAD A GREAT TIME AND THE RESORT SEEMS TO BE NICE ANY OTHER TIPS YOU CAN GIVE ON THIS VACATION. THANK YOU LINDA

Feel somewhat odd posting a Vancouver travel site on a Mexico travel message board but you did ask :) http://www.hellobc.com/index.jsp would be an excellent starting point. You'll notice in the upper right hand corner of HELLO BC they have a toll free number you can call for assistance. This particular site is operated by Tourism BC (govt agency) so you'll get excellent advice on your trip. I would advise you to plan for early Fall, September you'll still get excellent weather without the usual tourist crowds in Vancouver. However if you wait until October you could see some of our famous "liquid sunshine" which could put a bit of a damper on your visit. Actually you're lucky you waited, our transit strike just got settled so you won't have to worry about renting a car :)

thanks for the great web site enough about vancouver, going in sept looking to cool off.dallas today 100

We are considering a weeks stay somewhere in the greater Manzanillo area but haven't a clue having never been there. We are in our 50's, prefer a quiet place on the beach near a villiage with restaurants and shops and we love to snorkle. Advice regarding beach front accommodations, snorkling and anything else would be appreciated. Thanks, JimBo

I am looking for a website that shows pictures of the Roca Del Mar condo @ Las Brisas Beach. JimBo.

I'm not sure if Susan has photos of this condo but she hosts dozens of wonderful sites of the Manzanillo area. Her site is called www.gomanzanillo.com She also runs a dive shop and knows all the best spots for snorkelling. She took my kids and myself out by boat to a coral reef in a (as yet) undeveloped area. Check it out! I love the Costa Alegre! wen

Hello, I have an apartment for rent in Santiago, it is a village within the Manzanillo area. I see you are looking at the Las Brisas area, that area is on Manzanillo Bay whereas my apartment is located on Santiago Bay, the other half of the "W" if you look at a map. The apartment rents for $120.00 Cdn. a night, it is large, 3 bdrm, 2 baths, swimming pool, maid service, on the beach. Please contact me if you are interested. Margaret

Hi, We are planning on going to Club Maeva at Christmas time - I was wondering if you participated in the fitness classes and/ or visited the gym. If you did can you comment on the qualtiy? Thank you

My husband and I were married at Blue Bay four years ago - I always tell people it was a great experience. Besides the employees being very helpful - the food and property was a great. We met alot of friendly people and throughly enjoyed ourselves. Having such a secluded area to stay created a sense of safety. Also the little resturant/bar at the end of the beach was great - my husnand loved the fresh seafood.

Can anyone offer feedback on the fitness classes at Club Maeva - or the quality if the gym equipment? How often are the classes, hours of the gym, type of equipment?

Hello Margaret. In looking at the Internet, I saw your posting of your apartment that you have for rent. My husband and I are interested in travelling to Melaque/Manzanillo for the Christmas holidays. We will be travelling in a group of 6 adults. Can you tell me of your availablility/room rates? If you are already booked up, can you recommend any other places to stay? I am trying to contact the Orientalis in Melaque based on a recommendation from a friend, although I have had problems in receiving a response from them. Thank you very much.

A new all inclusive sport fishing retreat is opening in Puerto. www.puertoconnection.com

Hi Debi; I don"t know too much about that area myself but Im very intrested to know when you get back how you liked the place as I seen an avert for it and thought I would like to stay there everything always looks pretty nice in a picture so would like your honest opion of Marina Puerto Dorado when you get back .

How do I get a map of the rooms at Club Maeva? I plan to make reservations and I want a quiet room.

Pat, did you get accommodation at Casablanca? I might have an apartment available for the time you wanted. Sorry I have lost your email address, so hope you read this board......Margaret

I just read your review on Karmina Palace. Can I ask you a few questions, please? I am going on vacation in December there with my family. My main concerns are about the KidsKlub. How old were your kids? Is my 7 year old going to be well taken care of? Thanks!

LIVING IN MANZANILLO DURING THE WINTER & OUR SON A FULL-TIME RESIDENT & BUSINESS OWNER IN PUERTO VALLARTA, WE DRIVE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES OFTEN. THE WORST PART OF THE ROAD IS JUST SOUTH OF PUERTA VALLARTA. IF YOU SURVIVE THAT, YOU ARE HOME FREE. THE SMALL FISHING VILLAGES AND BEACHES ARE GREAT TO EXPLORE.DRIVE CAREFULLY & ENJOY

Is there any females running around mid-late 20's at either resort?

Jimbo You might want to check out Melaque or Barra. Nice quiet beaches, lots of places to stay and eat. Good snorkelling at Tenacatita Beach which is further north. I don't know about the snorkelling in Manzanillo directly. Feel free to e-mail me for further info or check out the visitors comments for this area. cheers bobbi

Hello all, I was surfing the web and noticed this website.....I was born and raised in New York City and am currently living in Connecticut...however I am very much a "latina" girl. My father is Puerto Rican but my mother is Mexican. Not only that, but she is from COLIMA. I have been there many times on vacation to visit my relatives and when I got older, I even decided to move there for a while. I spent 2 years there and it was great!! It was so laid back and sunny and just plain wonderful!! But all good things must come to an end. I started to realize that I wasn't a little kid anymore and that I had to start thinking about my financial future. Since my father is retired and my mother is a house wife, they can come and go as they please. 6 month here 6 months there etc. etc. I was looking at your website and wondered a few things . First, I didn't see any mention of Hotel America - the most expensive and luxurios hotel in Colima (and I'd say that Maria Isabel is a little more than "moderate") . Nor did I see the name of my favorite restaurant - Mi Ranchito - located just 1 1/2 blocks away from Hotel Maria Isabel where they have the best tacos in the world!! (eat your heart out Taco Bell !) and there are nice shopping malls there and disco's with all the modern music (english and spanish) that you would find in any of the American night clubs. The one called "AHA" was my favorite to go to. You might want to expand the information a little more on these things. I must admit I didn't look through the entire website, perhaps I'm mistaken and there is some mention of them in here somewhere. Also, on that report from the woman who visited with her husband and teenage son........at one point she said "we decided that we would not spend another night in Colima and headed back towards Manzanillo".....she doesn't mention why she said that. She makes it sound like she didn't like Colima or that something bad happened. Not that there's anything wrong with Manzanillo, I've been there too and it's great too. Did you know that Puerto Vallarta is only about a 6 hour drive from Colima? In Mexico that is a pretty short distance to people. I must say, personally, I think that Colima is the most beautiful place in the world! The people, the food, the museums, the culture, the celebrations, the DISCO'S, the cyber cafe's (you know, where you have coffe while you surf the internet) , the shopping malls - it is a small city in a small state, yet it has everything a big city would have. I think it is the perfect combination of old and new, traditional and modern! If I were rich, I'd buy a big house down there (or even a small one) and live there the rest of my life! Right now I'm shooting for retiring there, just like my parents did!! Oh, Colima the beautiful....how I miss my palm trees!!

If your looking for a job in Mexico, (and if it doesn't necessarily have to do with the water) than look no further than "Ingles Individual". It's a private institute that teaches english as a second language. No spanish is required. You don't have to have to be a licensed teacher, or even have a degree in english. They'll teach you any grammer rules you may have forgotten from school. They also have plenty of grammer books and dictionaries you can use. Just walk in and say you'd like to apply. The only real requirement is that you have to pass a test called the TOEFL (which stands for Test of English as a Foreign Language). It's kind of like those yearly tests you'd take in High School that cover reading comprehension and grammer, etc. It even comes in that "bubble sheet" format. But it's not all that difficult. you can work part time or full time. They start early and are open late so I'm sure they'll find a schedule that suites you. Ingles Individual is a national franchise with locations all over Mexico and even in some parts of Central and South America. They also have 2 in the U.S. One is in Pheonix, Arizona and the other is in Houston, Texas. These 2 are kind of like "summer camps" where students from Mexico come and stay there for weeks at a time. They have an easy teaching system that anyone would love! How do I know all this? I lived in Mexico for about 2 1/2 years.......can you guess where I worked? I worked for a year in the one located in Colima City, Colima and another year at the one in Cuidad Guzman, Jalisco........I know for a fact there is one in Manzanillo too!! Trust me - YOU'LL LOVE IT !! Some of the teachers are American, some are Mexican, others are Canadian and even some are from Great Britain!! You'll find all sorts of people at Ingles Individual. You can visit them on the web at Ingles Individual .com P.S. their schools are usually air conditioned !!!!

El Salto, is located near the city of Colima. There's a small road that goes towards a town called Minatitlan. But you'll get to El Salto way before you reach Minatitlan. If you coming from Colima that is. By "small road" I mean that it is not a large, highly traveled highway, although it is paved. I'ts not a dirt road. But it only has two lanes. One going and one coming. There are a lot of curves int the road since you're traveling the side of a mountain. A Taxi cab could take you there but I don't think he'd want to wait around for you. If you can rent a car, do so, and just ask for directions to "El Salto". Everyone is Colima knows how to get there. If memory serves me correctly, the sign for "El Salto" is on the right, but the exit is on the left. It kind of swirves down, and it is , I believe a stone road that is off the main road. Another place to see is a few minutes before the exit to "El Salto" on the same road. It's called "Agua Fria" and with good reason it has that name. No matter how hot it is. The water is always very very COLD. There are picnic table there too and people usually go there to barbeque and swim............. I've been there many times. My mother is Mexican and her hometown is Colima. I've spent many summer and Christmas vacations in Colima visiting my relatives so I know the place pretty well........

This Joker Dave and his ripoff operation has spammed half the fishing boards in creation trying to find suckers to pay his usurious rates. Don't do it Folks-he's a RIPOFF!

I am concidering driving from Manzanillo to Manzanilla and then to Guadalajara, is this safe? I am also curious about how long would it take by car and also by bus. Thanks in advance. Jeff

Has anyone stayed at Hotel Fiesta Mexicanna? I have searched the net for days and can find no information or pictures of this hotel. Muchas Gracias for any help you all can give me!

To all readers, Since I have now been accused of being a criminal and criminal activities, I feel I must respond even though I try to use these message boards only to post messages that relate to Puerto Escondido and surrounding areas and not use them as chat rooms as many do. I invite any reader to contact anyone in Puerto Escondido and ask them anything about Dave at the Puerto Connection. I am confident that the truth will then be made known that I am neither a criminal nor involved in any criminal activity. I have a legally registered Mexican Corporation that pays taxes and does all business according to Mexican law. Additionally, I do not own or operate ANY business or property listed on the Puerto Connection (www.puertoconnection.com). I only serve as a leasing / rental / reservation or advertising agent for local businesses and owners. I charge nothing for ads and listings that go on our site and only collect a commission if I bring money to the advertiser. Local businesses are free and I collect nothing from them every. I, as tomzap is, only want to promote Puerto Escondido and bring new and repeat tourism here (since I live here year round) while giving the tourist the info they want to make an informed decision when coming. Since I have appearantly angered a few, I apologise to the rest of you. To those who I have angered, I am sure you would like to supply the information to the boards that prove my criminal status in the world and the criminal activities I am now engaged in. Please feel free to contact all businesses and names listed on the tomzap page and ask each one of those about me and my activities. Thanks, Dave

Piece of cake! Cuota road to Guad. is quicker (4 lane). Hwy 80 is rustic. The fishing village of La Manzanilla is a jewel along with the Bay of Tenacatita. Check out the village website at: www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals LAM is 50 miles north of Manzanillo and 25 miles north of the Manzanillo airport.

I am thinking about driving from Manzanillo to Guadalajara, is this safe? I would also like to stop half way for the night in a small colonial town or village. Friends told me about Mazamitia and Tapalpa, are these the best towns between point A and B. How long would it take to drive to these villages and also is the bus hard to use when going to these small villages. Does anyone have other ideas for a charming village with cobble stone streets and quaint buildings, half way between Manz and Guad? jb

Here's a Goggle search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Hotel+Fiesta+Mexicana&btnG=Google+Search

About 3 hrs from LaManz to PV and another 5 hours to Guad. It is safe, good road and I would split in in two.

You don't need to go to PV to get to Guad. Just take Hwy 80 due east off of Hwy 200 just south of La Manzanilla. About a 4 1/2 drive.

My husband and I went to Blue Bay in 1997 with another couple and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We would wake up to the sound of the waves and the ocean was right close to the hotel. Everything we wanted to do was right there and it was secluded so you didn't have the vendors on the beach. The beach was never packed. There was horseback riding, kayaking, jet skiing, jungle boat tour, boogie boarding (fun), snorkling, scuba diving, deep sea fishing, etc. Food was great! We liked it so much that we took our kids and another family along in 1999. What a great vacation. Our kids were ages 9 - 12 and we could basically leave them by themselves because the resort is very safe - not just anyone can get in. There are guards at the entrance and you must have a reservation to get in. The kids had a blast - so much so that we're taking them again in January of 2002! THis is a great vacation spot!

We're heading to Blue Bay in January 2002 and I was wondering if they have an ATM machine at the resort. We were at Blue Bay in 1999 at at that time they didn't have one. When went went to Club Maeva, Manzanillo in 2000 they had one and was that ever convenient!

Try asking at their website at: www.bluebayresorts.com. I think it highly unlikely. I live part time in La Manzanilla on the southern edge of the Bay of Tenacatita and we have to go into Melaque where there is an ATM at the Bancomer bank. Right across the street from the bus station mas o menos.

So much more than you appear to be aren't you? This operation of yours is just the latest in a long line of 'covers' or 'laundries'. Typical of your ilk that you would accuse others when your guilt has been established many, many times over. The bad news for you is that as your money runs out so do the'friends' who've helped you all these years. The truth is known Dave spambag, the authourities know where you are and it's just a matter of time...

Once again El Gordo I will put my email for any to write me though you just love posting unsubstantiated info. I also think it strange that you are so against this fishing site that isn't even open yet though you have said it is the worst run in Mexico. Also, since my site is the same as a newspaper and I neither own nor operate any business, hotel, restaurant, etc that is listed on my site, I find it hard to understand how I could launder anything. Once again readers, feel free to check me out in any country you choose and especially here in Puerto Escondido. My reputation will stand unblemished and can't be hurt by who ever El Gordo is. Since "we" know who I am and where I am...please let us know who "El Gordo" is and who he is so we can check him out as I invite everyone to do on me. Dave www.puertoconnection.com

If you take the toll-road it only take 3-4 hours to go from Manzanillo to Guadalahara. I dive it 4-6 time a year and it is very safe. If you want a stop over on the way may I suggest the small town of Comala just north of the of the city of Colima which is the capitol of the state of Colima.

If you take the toll-road it only take 3-4 hours to go from Manzanillo to Guadalahara. I dive it 4-6 time a year and it is very safe. If you want a stop over on the way may I suggest the small town of Comala just north of the of the city of Colima which is the capitol of the state of Colima.

Hi: Karmina Palace, by all means. My husband and I spent a week there in February of 2000 and absolutely loved the place. We went to the Yucatan Peninsula this February and look forward to returning to Karmina in 2002. Go, enjoy!

My sister and I (slightly older women) are looking for some sun and shore for a week in January 2002 in Manzanillo, because it sounds so beautiful. We'd like a moderately priced hotel with ocean or bay views, but close enough to town to walk around and mingle with residents. Is La Posada pleasant? Or others in that area? Or are we way off? We're not into partying or super-touristy things, just kicking back, getting warm, and some great cultural influences! Can on get away without renting a car? Thanks!

If you haven't seen this web site you'll enjoy it. I'm sure you were asking for some personal experiences ... but I don't know the city. Taxi's and busses are everywhere and are cheap. You probably can find day tours on the web site. http://www.gomanzanillo.com/

Thanks for the response! I have explored gomanzanillo, and its resources convinced me I want to visit Manzanillo, but the relative locations of hotels to towns, variety of restaurants, etc., wasn't clear to me. I thought I'd ask individuals who know the area better. I'm open to all friendly suggestions! The upscale hotels are breathtaking, like the Mediterranean, almost, in mood. But are they very isolated? But still, the beach is a must, too. I'm sure it's all available, but I'm not sure how to find it. Jen

Try www.tourbymexico.netgate.net, www.webcolima.com.mx, www.colima.gob.mx, and type "Manzanillo Mexico" into your search engine box and see what comes up!!

has about 20 pages on Manzanillo and vicinity .... followed by a section on Colima (the city) which would be a nice side trip. The maps are good for layout of hotels. Didn't mention your hotel but does a number of others in the downtown area. The book is by Bruce Whipperman

Thanks to all of you for great heads-up. I'll look for the book you mention...it'll all help. Jen

Hello Jen, I have an apt in a building in Santiago which is a village before Manzanillo. This condo is on the beach with swimming pool, maid service daily, an easy walk to the main mall where there is a large grocery store. The village is just across the street and has many stores to choose from. It is about a 15-20 min. bus ride to the city of Manzanillo which is a port, working city. The Hotel strip is between my condo and Manzanillo. The hotel Posada is closer to Manzanillo in the Las Brisas area. I travel to Manzanillo alone, I have never had any problem, the people are very kind and it is quite a quiet area. Jan & Feb have more Canadian and American tourists but it is still relatively quiet. Please contact me if you are interested and I would be more than pleased to answer any questions you may have. Margaret Dunlop

We did not go inside the Club Maeva but from the outside, there is no comparison with Karmina. We spent 9 nights at Karmina (returned Aug. 15) and loved it. Plenty of children but they were well behaved. Mostly Mexican families this time of year with a handful of Americans and Canadians. We don't speak Spanish but had no problem with staff or guests. I would recommend this place for the rooms, the layout of the resort, etc. It is a great place to do nothing but R&R.

Hello - I was wondering if anyone knows how to get a layout of Club Maeva, especially the locations of the rooms. I'm going there in Dec for 2 weeks with my 3 yr old and want to find out what area of the resort would be best for us. Thanks!

The complex is quite large and hilly so a map may not do you justice but here is my opinion on the rooms. #100's easy walk and close to main pool and food services but also close to disco. 200's best bet close to everything but getting futher from the noise not to much of a hike . 300's and 400's just as good as 200's but hilly to get to. avoid 500's 600's 700's generaly speaking most people find it to be quite a bit of walking but others don not.

Check it out at: www.emilebymile.com

Hi, My husband and I have booked a villa at Roca Del Mar for Sept 8th - 15th If you are not in a hurry for an answer I can answer and maybe send you photo's then. From what I understand it is a nice quiet beach area.

Hi, I am looking for a nice guy named Sid. He responded to my post about Las Bristas Beach. Seems as though he knows quite a bit about this area. I would like to email him about this area but have been unsuccessful in email the address for him. Sid if you are out there please email me directly at maurita@proaxis.com If anyone else has been to Roca Del Mar on Las Bristas beach please email me also as I am after as much information as possible We are headed there in two weeks!!! Yippee I love Mexico! Maurita

Hi, Two weeks ago I went all over Manxanillo to check out hotels. This hotel did not impress me because it has the pool kind of inside at the back of the lobby and then the ocean is beyond that. It is all inclusive and seemed expensive for what the place looked like. The clincher was when I used the womens lobby bathroom and it didn't have a toilet seat on any of them. I sure wasn't going to give them US $100 per person per night when the place couldn't afford the small luxury of toilet seats!!!I think the kids were $50 US. It seemed 2nd rate for the price. Hotel TeniSol is in Club Santiago that has clean rooms and a nice pool with palapa and the ocean a block away in this development of condos and houses. It has tennis there. It seemed that the hotels in Manzanillo that were nice were around US$100 per person and alot were all inclusive. TeniSol phone is 013-335-0412 Tenisol@yahoo.com They may be able to direct you to some other sites. The club Santiago has weekly condos for rent but nothing there is right on the beach you have to walk down the road a block to get to the beach enterance there. Sierra Manzanillo looked nice but once again was all inclusive, and higher dollar but it was very nice. Good luck

Hi, Did you happen upon the Roca Del Mar on Las Bristas Beach?

I would really appreciate it if you'd e-mail your lengthy review. Thanks, Carol

Hi all, Need asap help!! There is a great price to the Blue Bay on the 8 of Sep. and I need to know what the weather is like! Please advice. Tanx, Erich

Hot humid and can rain a lot. So far this summer it has been relatively dry!

Looking for a resort in Manzanillo for 2 adults & 3 Kids ages 15, 13, & 10. Travel agent suggested Club Maeva. Any comments Please. Would like to talk with someone from Calgary, Canada or Western Canada who has been there.

I've done Manzanillo to GDL in just over two hours, but that's on the toll road with low traffic densities. A side trip to La Manzanilla is highly recommended. You can drive up the coast from Manzanillo, visit Barra de Navidad, then stay at Villa Manzanilla (which is lovely and peaceful) dining that night at a nice local restaurant. My wife and I spent our honeymoon at the Villa. Next day, take Highway 80 directly to GDL. Not a toll road, so watch out for los pollos. We loved the area so much, we now live permanently in Manzanillo.

Try www.gomanzanillo.com

Hello I am planing to stay one night at Colima and after that going to P.V. by bus. I could not find any information about buses to P.V. I have already check Plimera Plus's and ETN's web site, but they do not have. PLEASE let me know information about buses from Colima or Manzanillo to P.V. (ex. how often, how long, bus company, time schedule ....) Sorry, my English is terrible. thanks ! Asako

Try www.mts.net/~dcdonahu/bus.html There should be a bus from Colima to Melaque (Cihuatlan line, Primera Plus). Thers ia a 9:15am and a 1:15 pm departure from Melaque to PV on Primera Plus. I'm sure that abus origiates in Manzanillo, so you should be able to go from Colima to Manzanillo to PV or Colima to Melaque to PV.

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Your best bet is something in the 200's (we were in 232 one year and it was perfect). They are directly behind the kids pool and close to the eateries but far enough from the disco so noise is not bad. Not a bad walk to the waterslides either. If you want to be closer to the kids club then 300's are the best bet but are further away from restaurants.

Thank you for giving me information about buses to P.V. I have checked the flecha amarilla's web site (http://www.flecha-amarilla.com/etaqu1.cfm), but I could find only buses from Manzanillo at 00:30, and from Melaque at 01:45. Anyway, I am so glad to know that there are some buses from Colima and Manzanillo. Thank you dan. Asako Sato

Hotel reviews (not many) - leave some of your own Links to other sites also ... http://www.mts.net/~eissner/manzanillo.html

If I was you I would not take the toll-road.I suggest you take the long way and try to visit as many towns as I could. I was born in the state of colima and there is a lot to be learned about the people and the little towns but I will not tell you more because i will spoil your trip. Have a great time! PS: what ever you do be nice and you will have a great experiance in my home state.

Leo, Was there Feb/2001 with my 8 yr old daughter. What would you like to know?

My family and I stayed at Club Maeva, in Manzanillo last March break. We had a fantastic time. It was great to get away from the cold Toronto weather. Our children, ages 7 & 4 absolutely loved the kid's club and the family disco..There was always something to do! Feel free to contact me if you require any other info.

Hi Bill ! Justread your email on your vacation to Grand Bay. My husband and I plan to go this December. He is an avid golfer and I was wondering if you golfed when you were there and new what the rates were fro 18 holes. Thank you Bette

Hi ! I was wondering if you could tell me some info re: Roca Del Mar. How far is it from the town of Melaque. Is it a new complex? Is it on the beach ? What is the beach like ? What is the price range per week? Do you have a contact # or email address for it? Thanks Bette

Hi ! I was wondering how you enjoyed Roca Del Mar ? Could you possibly share your opinion of the Villa and the beach ? What was the approx. price per week? We hava stayed at Karmina Palace twice and find it too busy ,so we are looking for a place in the Melaque area. Hope you can help. Thanks Bette

Hi ! Just wondering about the Roca Del MAr ? What are the villas like? What is the pool area like? Is Roca Del Mar failry new ? What is the beach area like ? Are you able to provide more detailed info on it? Thanks Bette

We're a 30ish couple getting married and want to go to Manzanillo Blue Bay Club for our honeymoon. Any comments out there, is this a good choice?

We're a 30ish couple looking to go to Blue Bay Manzanillo for our honeymoon. Is this a good choice? Any Comments out there on good places?

Website at: www.bluebay.com. They also own Punta Serena on the same website. Next door is the fishing village of La Manzanilla: www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals. Next door to that is El Tamarindo at: www.ghmmexico.com and south of there is Melaque and Barra de Navidad with websites here at tomzap.com I consider the Blue Bay Resort a 3+ star all inclusive establishment! The Bay of Tenacatita is spectacular!

A couple of years ago, we were going to drive from PV to Manzanilla. Everyone we asked told us there was no road despite our map that clearly showed there was. We went anyway. The more we went the more we got concerned as to the safety factor and turned back. We are looking at trying again in November. Safe?

Roca Del Mar has been around at least since the 60's, it is right on the beach next to Barts la Posada. Melaque is 1 1/2 to 2 hours away by bus. It is a great place IMHO I'll see if I can find a phone #

Hi everyone. I'm getting married at Karmina in February 2002 - Can't wait!! Has anyone attended a wedding there, or had their own wedding there, and how was it?? Any advice? Thanks, Chelsea

I forget to tell you that the little resturant/pub at the end of the beach is fantastic. The food (bring money) is fresh and people great. We signed the wall the day we were married, but I am sure they repaint the place every year. Good luck melissa

Manzanillo is awesome. You will love it and the people. Check out the hotels on the beach at Santiago Bay. Inexpensive, clean and quiet. We stayed at Hotel Marylin for about $20/ night last year. It's a short walk downhill into town. We didn't have a car either- bus and taxi systems are good. Have fun!

Leaving for Manzanillo on Oct. 2 from San Diego. Can't wait. Hear the drive is not a problem. Good luck and we'll see you there!

We are driving to Mexico for an extended holiday and looking for some quieter areas out of the 'resort towns'.Can't find Roca Del Mar or Las Bristas beach on our maps. Where is it? Is it a smaller area? Is there any Camper or RV camping there? Would love to hear more & YES we love Mexico too!

I think they mean "Las Brisas" which is the first beach north of Manzanillo harbour, which puts it inside a resort town. If you're looking for small, try Cuyutlan, a quaint little beachside town that has a huge influx of Mexicans during the mexican holidays but few gringos, and plenty of cheap accomodation during the (Mexican) off-peak times.

You didn't say where you've been or what area you're looking. If you are driving you'll pass Melaque/Barra so don't miss that. A number of magic places between PV and Manzanillo.

I just wanted to know if anyone else was in the same boat? I just found out my trip to Club Maeva on Dec 7th has been cancelled. I was told the tour operators have "terminated" the destination. They are processing a full refund but my agency said there might be other options to go with a different carrier. Does anyone know what the current situation at Club Maeva is? I'm just not sure what to do now! Thanks...

We went to Karmina palace at NewYear;s kast year and had a great time. We saw a wedding in progress when we were there, and we got back, there was the following post on this message board about thier wedding, which would have been the one we saw: We got back from Karmina on 1/12/01. The resort was beautiful, and kept well clean. We were married on 1/9/01 at 5:00pm. Anne-Marie at Karmina took care of all the wedding plans, and everthing was perfect. The day of the wedding we went snorkeling and swimming by the pool. The wedding only lasted about 10 min., but there was alot of signing and fingerprinting to do. We had the wedding supper at the Carioca, and everyone ordered what they wanted off the menu. We decided to take the cake to my parents suite for better lighting for pictures. We did go back up to the disco later. The band knew that we were married, and asked us to dance in the middle and everyone else circled around us. When we got back to our room that evening, the staff had been there to decorate. They showered the room with flower petals, and formed bathtowels into swans. We also received a picture frame from the hotel with Karmina Palace engraved in it. They staff was very friendly, and tried very hard to make sure everyone had a good time. There were 15 people in our group and not one had a bad thing to say about the resort or the staff. Your on vacation, enjoy, and don't let the little things bother you. We will be glad to answer any questions via e-mail. Dawn and Tom thenrich@hotmail.com

As far as I know club maeva and the folks that contract with it like neptune's diving are up and running....just waiting for tourists to show up. THey really need folks to continue travelling....No problems there

Hi Kam. Sorry to hear about your trip being cancelled. May I ask which carrier you were supposed to fly with? My finace and I are planning our wedding at Karmina in February and I have the same concern in the back of my head. Chelsea

We drove our camper down in the winter of '99 and spent our favorite time in La Manzanilla. We loved Melaque also and hope to spend some time there. Our travels took us as far south as Manzanillo , although we just passed by, and inland to Chapala. This time we are not on a schedule and hope to discover more of this wonderful country & people. We like small areas and love the true Mexican culture. Hablo espanol un poco pero espero mas aprendo. (?) Gracias for any info that can help us.

Norma, My wife is from Colima, Col. I totally agree with everything that you say but you forgot to mention sopitos de la villa .... possible the best food in the region! I reccomend Cenaduria "Julia"! We are going for Thanksgiving. See you there!

IS their any internet access from Mananillo. Im looking to be able to take my laptop and use the service from my room

Thanks for the response!! I hope you have fun on your trip to Colima. I don't know when I'll be able to go back there. I miss it very much. It really is so beautiful. Believe it or not, I have been to "Cenaduria Julia" - it's in Villa de Alvarez. My parents love to eat there. I like the sopitos, my parents like atole y tameles. When we're in Colima, we go there quite often. Right now I'm in Connecticut. I hope to make it down there in February of 2002. In the meantime, I visit Colima City every night in my dreams. Oh look - there are my palm trees now!...................

Hi, I was talking to my travel agent today and she told me that Canada 3000 had cancelled its flights until Dec 21. Maybe you could get another package through Air Transat, perhaps Signature Vacations is going to use them instead. Also Alaska Air flies most of the time but it is a schedule flight not a charter at the moment it was cheaper than the charter flight !! I would think that this cancellation will really hurt the hotels in Manzanillo and maybe their prices will come down. Worth checking around. Margaret

I'm sure you'll have to visit an internet cafe downtown. There's a 4 Seasons Hotel up in Puta Mita that may offer that quality of service.

Hotel Grand Bay in Barra may have that service but they are $200-400 a night. Hotel is actually in Colima because the river is the divider .... makes a long peninsula.

Well, I was able to rebook my trip to Club Maeva so my 3yo & I are off for two hopefully glorious weeks in the sun starting Dec 4th. For those interested, it was Signature Vacations that cancelled my trip & I rebooked through Sunquest... ps - anyone else going to be there at beginning of Dec?

Does anyone know how long of a drive it is from the airport to the hotel? Also, how much are the cabs from Grand Bay into Manzanillo.

15 miles mas o menos. The turn off to Grand Bay is just past the village of Cihuatlan on the left. They have teh zones posted at teh airport. Probably $30. Check out the (Tepic to Manzanillo Road Log) at: www.emilebymile.com/main/mexico/mexico_highway.html

Barra de Navidad is just a few feet across the inlet by launch ... a fun little town with good beaches, food and booze for 1/10th the price of the Grand Bay. See more info about Barra on this site.

Check it out at: www.choice1.com/villamontana.htm and www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

I stayed there last Feb. It was great! We left out of Calgary. Our only complaint was the very scary flight...( storm in manzanillo the day we landed, and it was rough getting down!). The hotel, and area is beautiful, and fun! If you have any other ?'s please email me.

Depends what hotel you stay in. I'm not sure, but I haven't heard of any with Ethernet ports in the room, or permanent connections. You'd most likely have to get a Internet a/c with one of the local dial-up's (but beware they have a serious lack of dial-up lines and bandwidth). If you stay at the Hotel Sierra, and have wireless on your laptop, I could proably let you onto my Apple Airport and you could share my 128k ISDN. :^)

I have heard rumors about a trailer park or campground that is proposed in Tecoman. Does anyone know anything about it?

I am planning to visit Manzanillo for 2 weeks over the Christmas/New Year period with my wife and 3 kids aged 12,10 an 4. Is this a good time to visit ? We like to explore the local area when on holiday.What are some interesting things to do ?

There are no specific classes given in the gym. Small gym and during the 2 weeks I spent there last year, I never saw anyone use it.

Probably best to check out http://gomanzanillo.com for info.

HI can anyone tell us if they have stayed ay puerto marina dorado in the last few months. we are going in jan 2002 and hope we are not going to be disapointed the pictures look great but how is the beach and the rooms. Much appreciated if anyone can fill us in Chketa

Hi , could anyone tell us if they have been to puerto marnia dorado and what the rooms are like and if the beach is nice for walking and swimming we are going down in jan 2002 it looks nice but i don"t want to be disapointed when we get there Many thanks Chketa

It's a great time to get out of the cold up north. it can be a very busy time because Mexicans vacation also. I assume you have reservations when you bring kids that age. I agree "gomanzanillo" web site is probably the best place to get some hints. most everything in manzanillo is oriented around all inclusive resorts except for a few places in "old town". a good overnight might be to Colima

We stayed in the hotel Xmas 98, it was great ,the beach wonderful, just walk out the door. Rooms nice and bright, spotless, lovely view of the beach from the balcony

we just booked thru air transit all systems are go

we just booked thru air transit all systems are go

we just booked thru air transit all systems are go

the two of us have booked for 1 week .is there lots of activties for us 30 somethings? do they cheap out on there food and drinks?we are on a all inclusive.

If you like lots of noise ..lots of kids..(and I have some and love them) lots of people and this is your place.

we have a time share for rent december 19th to 26th, ISLA DORADO club santiago manzanillo,colima mexico. we can not go and will let go for $600.us for the week,3 bedrooms 2 baths 2 pull out sofas,sleeps 6-8 no problem. john and helen kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com

friends stayed in feb said nothing but good things . make sure u visit barra

Hi Millie, i've been in Tecoman many times over the years and never heard of one.but there could be one,it could be at the coast which is about 20 minutes from down town,many locals go there to the beach.i'm going to be in Barra over xmas with friends and family,bringing my jet ski too.i have friends in colima and in confida de juares .i'll be traveling from south texas,thats where i live and driving.if i talk to my friends soon i'll ask them for you. Robert

Hey guys, I will be at the MAEVA in november also, last year the hotel was fairly full with lots of things to do. I have a friend who works there and she says the hotel has made a lot of changes for the better..Horseback riding and water sports have been added}} Anyhow hope to see you guys there

I am looking for information about the Pacifico Azul. We are headed to Manzanillo the last week of March and have located a place at the Pacifico Azul, however I am unable to find out much information about the property. Any comments will be appreciated.

What's Barra?

Pat - if you're still interested in trying to stay at the Casa Blanca Alamar -you want to speak to Miguel. He usually is in the office during the lunch hour (2 hours ahead of BC time) Lily his wife may answer the phone - she speaks a little English and may be able to help you. The tel number is 011 52 333 32375. Hope this helps you.

Taleen - Joel's right. There are ATM's all over. We took travellers cheques about 9 years ago and haven't taken them since. If you have any questions about the area feel free to contact me - maybe I can be of help. This Feb will be our 4th trip to the Santiago and obviously we like the place and so will you.

Hi Kent , I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I highley recomend you do not stay there we stayed there last year for a month and it was a diaster the only good thing about the place was the pool area the units are very bad not kept up I will try to send you a letter that I sent my travel agent I got back a chunk of money for our unit and all the other people had problems too very dirty and no linen or pots or coffee maker ,toaster, the pillows you would not want to sleep on just awful last year the power was turned off for 3days as I guess the people did not pay the maintance the whole complex was in darkness . This year we are staying at the Puerto Marina Dorado I have had good replys on this and quite reasonable so have a look at that also I have a couple of friends that have units down in Manzannillo that you may beable to rent from email me if you are instrested I will see what I can do But please do not stay there you will be very SORRY!! Chketa

barra de navidad its a small town on the coast near melaque

14 days and counting

how much in canadian $ to downtown manz.?

great advice

3 Zones in Manzanillo: 1 - 180 peas 2 - 210 peas 3- 250 peas Maeva is on the North end of Manzanillo so I assume Zone 1. Peso rate was $1us = 9.13 pesos as of Saturday Nov. 03. Not sure the conversion rate for Canadian?? adios! mexicodan

Hi Marty, Better yet,take a bus!Only a few pesos and lots of fun!They stop right at Maeva & run all the time till about ten at night. A great chance to meet local people & they like to practice English & we can try out our Spanish phrases. Have a great trip,can't wait,we will be down in Feb/2002

Looks like a great spot! Will be in the area in feb. and plan to stop by to check out the facility and the great view! Bill

Hi Robert, I understand that Tecoman is southeast of Manzanillo,how far would that be?I see that it is 20min from the coast,would that be to cuyutlan?I have found only one book that talks about Tecoman,the book says it is a pleasant place.Do you think there would be a bus to the beach?Anything else you can tell me would be apppreciated.Thanks in advance! Heather

is there a daily bus?

we are heading to Manzanillo in April. We are told the villa within Las Hadas has purified water. I am wondering whether or not it is safe to eat from the beach side cafes or the taco stands. I hear they have the best food but what about the water?

If you are worried about the water .... then be careful with mixed drinks, ice cubes and salads. All cooked food, and bottled beverages should be fine. Also fresh fruit should be OK if the place is clean.

thanks for the info cant wait for nov 20

Hi Heather,from Manzanillo to Cuyutlan is about 30 minute drive by bus,Tecoman is south of that, still 20 minute drive by bus again.There is a small town Armeria thats,just a drive through town bus stop.Again Tecoman really is a bigger town with a small shopping area.And if you continue on you'll be going to Lazaro Cardens.I think you'll like Cuyutlan its a small safe little village with a great beach area.Locals from the area go there and as well as busses from Guadalajara visit.But don't forget Colima.I would like to ask how did you find out about this area and when do you plan to travel there?Iplan to travel there by car in December over xmas . Robert

Hi Robert, Thanks for the information.I read travel books instead of novels!We have the month of Feb off,we fly into Manzanillo on the 3rd & have 2 weeks before we meet friends in Manz.We were going to go there last year but stayed too long in Morelia.How are the waves at Cuyutlan,can you swim?The book says better swimming at Paraiso which is near by,what do you think?It also mentions a place called San Juan de Lima 1 hour south of tecoman,have you heard of that?Do you think we will find accomodations ok in these places?I could never forget Colima,it is such a beautiful city and has great shoe stores!Mucho questions,I find it all so interesting,thanks again. Heather

Hello Heather, the waves at Cuyutlan are rough pass 11am and there are rip tides ,you'll have to be careful.If you like to boggie board it has some nice waves.As for Paraiso,its ok but you'll need to check that out yourself.San Juan De Lima,you'll need to drive right though Tecoman and its a nice drive there.Its a nice beach area.Again there should be no problem finding a room there ,its only 2 hotel stay.Its a nice small beach,with a great walk some good food as well.I suggest drive pass San Juan about 5 miles,at the top of the climb,there you'll see a GREAT view and a small valley and the bay.At the top there is a place to stop and view all this.It is wonderful.Ihope I have helped some what.Happy Travels.....Robert

will be at club maeva in late nov. is there bus service to guadalahara?sorry for the spelling!

Hi Marty, you need to ride into town at the bus center and there are many bus service to any where.depending on your funds take a directo in to Guadalajara.That should take about3 1/2 hours and that will take you again to the bus central.Either take a taxis to down town or a bus.Buses are alway cheap.good luck Robert

Robert,Thank-you so much for all of your great info.I think we will just have to check them all out.Sounds like you have been up & down the coast a bit.Please let us know how your trip goes it will keep me going till it is my turn! Heather

Does the Blue Bay have purified water system? I thought most hotels in Mexico did but last year in P.V. wife got very sick and won't go if no "aqua purificado".

WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED? WHAT PROVINCE ARE YOU FLYING OUT OF? SIGNATURE VACATIONS ARE STILL OFFERING CLUB MAEVA FLYING OUT OF TORONTO, AND WE WERE PLANNING ON GOING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, AS THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

GREAT PLACE TO GO WITH YOUR FAMILY. WE ARE FROM ONTARIO AND WE ARE PLANNING ON RETURNING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. LOTS OF ACTIVIES FOR THE KIDS. IF YOUR FAMILY IS SPORTS RELATED, THERE ARE WATER SPORTS, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL,ETC. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WATER PURIFICATION RIGHT ON THE RESORT, SO NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE WATER. ANYMORE QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A LINE.

LEO, THIS IS WHAT I HAD POSTED ON THE BULLENTIN BOARD, AFTER OUR TRIP LAST YEAR. IT WAS STILL ON THE BULLENTIN BOARD SO I THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED. ONCE AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS DROP ME A LINE. Our family recently returned from a trip to Club Maeva, Manzanillo, Mexico. We had never been on an all-inclusive vacation before, and we had never been to Mexico before. Our family was so thrilled with the trip that we are all looking forward of returning. You couldn't have asked for a more courteous and friendly staff. The Maevamigos were the greatest. Our two teenagers, one a girl 18 and the other a boy 13 would return tomorrow if they could. Our family is very sports orientated and this place offered as many sports that you could do in a day. We were a little leery at first, being only a 3 1/2 star resort, but we were treated like it was a five star. We would go none stop, from Water Polo at 11:00, to Water Aerobics, to the ocean for the afternoon of booging boarding, back to Water Polo at 4:00, then on to volleyball until 7:00. There wasn't anytime for a siesta, only if you wanted to. Then it was down for either the Dinner Show, Dinner at Alfredo's or just Dinner at the Happy Hut and then we sat back to watch the special Shows that were different every night. People asked if we toured any of the city of Manzanillo, the closet we got to the city, was on the Saturday Morning we ventured on the city bus to the Santiago Flea Market. The rest of the time we spent on the resort. Any family that is travelling from Canada, I would highly recommend this resort as a FIVE STAR. You and the majority of the guests are from Canada, and we all know how friendly we Canadians can be, once we let their guard down a little. The highlight of our trip was when all four of us appeared in different segments on stage for "Guest Night." We watch the video over and over and laugh till we almost cry. So anyone that would like anymore information on CLUB MAEVA feel free to contact me. Wendy

No the Automobile collection is not in existance anymore. I was there in September looking for it. Colima will be a great place to be for Christmas. I am sure there will be lots going on. Read every poster you see on the walls. I think it will be hard to find things out in advance. Try the previously mentioned web site for VisitaColima.

Hello, My boyfriend and I are planning to go to Club Maeva Manaznillo in April and I was just wondering what kind of activities to do while we visit. We are staying for seven nights and when I was in Dominican last May they had certain tours that costed extra money and they would take you out for a whole day, is there anything like this in Maeva? Also is there anywhere to go snorkling, or kayaking? Thanks

Hi! My wife and myself and our 2 kids (2yrs and 8 months at the time) went last winter. There is tons to do if you're athletic including football, soccer, basketball (we had some intense games), volleyball, tennis courts (nice), and of course water polo which isn't real water polo but a blast anyway esp. after you've had a few. There's also a prison-like weight room which had all the essentials. There is a night club or two, shows every night which were quite good, deep-sea fishing and scuba tours, mountain biking, spanish lessons,etc. definitely a good bargain esp. if you don't have kids and you can take advantage of half the stuff. The food was really healthy and tasty, maybe repetitive, but lots of it. They have their own water purification system there ...I drink about 4 litres a day and had no problems. The booze line-ups weren't bad and they'd give you several drinks without batting an eye. The only downfall was the beach, which sucks bad if you're used to Hawaii or Oz like myself, but better than nothing. WE went in Jan. and the weather was awesome every day, very similar to Hawaii which is kind of close to the same latitude. Lots of Canadians there. We left the "compound" once for more diapers. Don't bother buying anything there, its all junk and more exp. than at home. I thought it was a pretty good place, very relaxing if you want, or you could be really active. I thought our room wass nice too; rem inded me of those white beach houses you see in the Mediterranean. Anyway, you can e-mail me if I missed anything; I was there for 2 weeks. Keith

I just read the postings above and totally agree. Our family (2 kids) went last winter and are planning on returning this winter. We're from Red Deer, Alberta. It is a huge bargain! Keith

Hi! My wife and I went to Club Maeva last winter and loved it. They do have aerobics classes every afternoon and I saw a bunch of people get together and run every morning. The gym is definitely no frills; I was able to continue my regular routine except they didn't have a squat rack so I had to do hack squats and leg presses instead, aargh. Another Canadian guy who I saw there all the time said it reminded him of a prison gym. I figure, at least they have an effective gym, not just a universal gym or something like that. Lots of free weights! Write me if you have questions. Keith

All I can say is get the all-inclusive! The food is really good (lots of fresh fruit and veggies) and the kitchen is bad! Keith, Red Deer

I am with Mark Voeller, we are considering your condo. Do you have any pictures? Does it have air conditioning? Is it on the beach? What else can you tell us? Thank you very much for your time, Tricia Tomlinson

Signature is using air transat out of Toronto. I have the last week of Nov booked as well.

dont forget to try scuba diving. the neptune's diving & sports staff works at the Maeva and you can get some instruction from them at the poolside daily. Aside from that they are tons of fun

Can anyone tell me if the shopping is goodand what the prices are like? I'm looking for vanilla, tequila and Kaluha. Thanks very much

Isn't Kaluha a brand name, imports are not cheap. Tequilla ranges from $1-300 a bottle and you may save a few bucks if you spend many more shopping. See what they have at the duty free store or in flight. Where are vanilla beans grown?

You DON'T need to go to the bus center in Centro. All you need to do is jump in a taxi and take a 3 minute taxi ride to the Santiago ETN bus terminal and then it's a 200 peso (approx) ticket for a first class ETN bus to GDL with fully reclining seats (3 per row).

Hi - We are staying here next month, any info on the property would be helpful. Where are the best rooms. Is the food safe and good? You get the picture. Thanks

My family visited Blue bay December 1999. We had a fantastic time and loved the beach. If anyone has travelled there in the last year please let me know what the resort is like now. I am thinking of returning there for another holiday, but have heard that it is getting run down. True or not? How is the food, entertainment, rooms etc? Thank you

Anyone know the cabfare from the airport to near the Sierra?

We're going to Club Maeva the third week in January and are taking our two kids aged 2 and 7. Does anyone have any tips on making it a smooth journey? Thanks.

Hi Keith - I have just a couple of quick questions for you, I'm going to Club Maeva in 2 weeks (with my 3yo)... What time do the evening shows usually start? Do they have washers/dryers available? Should I take much US/Mexican currency or is a VISA card enough? Thanks a lot if you have a chance to reply! Kim.

Looked OK to me in October! I didn't stay there but I could see it boating by on the Bay of Tenacatita and from the village of La Manzanilla! They also run/own www.puntaserena.com now! I did check it nout last November ad it also looked fine! Link at: www.emilebymile.com/main/mexico/jalisco/200/mexico_jalisco_highway.html and www.lamanzanillamexico.bizland.com/lamrentals

I would like to know where the best snorkeling sites are around Manzanillo. Coming down in Jan/02.

Has anyone used the babysitting service at Club Maeva?

this sounds great will be there nov.20 -27 very tired of the rain here in vancouver is there really good food and drinks ?

do the maeva folk have access to nfl games ?i will be there for thanksgiving and would love to watch the cowboys!

http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/Discovery/index.htm Working in conjunction with the Colima Department of Tourism and Underworld Scuba of Manzanillo, the Discovery Channel found Manzanillo's underwater life fascinating and unusual. It was the first time that the Discovery Channel explored the Pacific Ocean, and the film crew was very impressed with the varieties of sea life.

Hi Julie, I really thought the food was good there. They have a buffet style set-up with lots of variety. Especially if you like eating healthy. They also had good "kids food" like good burgers and tacos,etc. The desserts were a bit disappointing for chocolate lovers like myself but the little store they had there had M&Ms et al when I got desperate. I would also steer you away from their version of rye and coke, which is actually some type of bourbon that tastes very much like I imagine diesel would. Serious hangover. You should also try their Italian restaurant at least once. I'm sure you'll have a great time. Enjoy! Keith

We are travelling to the Manzanillo/Santiago area Feb 1-8/02 and are looking for reasonable (budget) accommodation for our family of 6 (possibly 7). We would be looking for something that hopefully has a pool and either on the beach or very close to it. Cooking facilities, more than 1 bathroom.......are we asking for too much or are such accommodations available??

Does anyone have suggestions for travelling by bicycle in Jalisco and Colima. Beginning in Manzanillo.... we were thinking of going west on the coast to La Manzanilla, then back to Manzanillo and up to the city of Colima to explore the countryside around Colima. Suggestions for safe routes, accomodation, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.

Check out my itinerary at www.outlandadventures.natureavenue.com. Biking up to Colima might be a stretch. you might wnat to put the bikes on bus then bile around Colima, Comala, and Suchitan!

are u going fishing/

I would be VERY surprised if they don't have it via satellite. If they don't, you can be sure that if you zip down to Juanito's Restaurant (about 3 minutes drive from there) you'll be watching it on their big screen TV.

colima........ manzanillo to minatitlan whichis about one hour a way is very nice lots of exploring.......(recommennnnnnnn.)

colima........ manzanillo to minatitlan whichis about one hour a way is very nice lots of exploring.......(recommennnnnnnn.)

My family and I have stayed at Sierra twice now and are returning in Jan 2002. Not all their rooms have balconies or ocean views so we call direct to the hotel and request the rooms we want and have had no problems. We like the rooms in the two low rise building that over look the pool and ocean. We ask for the third floor. The food is good and the beach and pool are great. We have stayed at Las Hadas and Karmina Palace and enjoyed them all but prefer Sierra's pool and atmosphere. If you need more info just email me at Stang0@shaw.ca

it sounds great cant wait to get there

is it near club maeva?

Looking for decent,reasonably priced,lodging in Manzanilo during the week of March 21 to 30. need one unit for four, another for 6. Am hoping to be in realativly close to town area. Have never been there before. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

I am also looking for a place to stay and have posted a note requesting the same style information. HJope you hear from someone and will watch for an answer. As we are going after you will be there we are anxious to hear how you fare....

Have you ever been To Barra De Navidad? WE went to Manzanillo and took the bus to Barra and it was wonderful. Smaller hotels and right on the ocean. Manzanillo was little more industrious.

I have a time share for the week of january 25,2002 to febuary 1, 2002 3 bedrooms 2 baths[ sleeps 6 to 8] resort Isla dorado, manzanillo email me for more info john kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com

There are fixed rates and it depends if you take a "normal" car where I believe it would cost about $250 pesos (about $27 US) or a bigger car (Jeep Cherokee like) hich cost I believe $400 to $500 pesos. This is not cheap for a 35 kilometer trek. Taking a cab to return from the Sierra to the airport is likely to cost you only $200 to $220 pesos. No tipping it's all included. Good luck.

There are fixed rates and it depends if you take a "normal" car where I believe it would cost about $250 pesos (about $27 US) or a bigger car (Jeep Cherokee like) hich cost I believe $400 to $500 pesos. This is not cheap for a 35 kilometer trek. Taking a cab to return from the Sierra to the airport is likely to cost you only $200 to $220 pesos. No tipping it's all included. Good luck.

Snorkeling can be very good in Manzanillo. I'd contact the people at Neptunes diving www.neptunesdiving.com. Very friendly and competent people who will take you by boat to some very nice sites. There's an area called "the aquarium" that's supposed to be great. We'll be in Manzanillo also in December and January and will go diving. Perhap we'll see you. Good luck.

Thanks Jacques, hope to see you there.

Beware of timeshare scabs and black pussy's

We have a condo in Santiago booked for Feb.2-16/2002. Anyone having any experiences with Condos Mantarrayas, good or bad, please reply. Thanks!!!

ok whats the catch carlos time-share pressure? surely you must 300-500pesos or 30-50 dollars or one of us has had too much to dream last night

We are going to Manzanillo Club Maeva in the middle of Dec. also with a 3 year old - let us know if there is something we should bring or what we can expect.

Was there last year with our family, and used the service with our 9 yr old daughter. She enjoyed it, especially when she hooked up with friends. A suggestion that we found very helpful, were small walkie talkie radios to use for communicating around the property. Also gave one to our daugher when she went to the kids club. The area is locked and the children cannot leave unless signed out by a parent. She could then contact us when she was ready to leave. Cheers, Jim

Not sure where your staying, but if you're at the Maeva, you can walk along the beach to the far Northern end of Playa Miramar. There is a small beach side village called La Boquita (not sure of spelling). From here you can continue walking along the rocky Penisula de Juliapan and snorkel right off shore. You may see the locals spear fishing in this area. Also you can inquire in La Boquita about hiring a boat to go snorkelling further North. I suggest this over the organized tours from the hotels, since the price is only slightly higher and you have all the flexibility you need. We even did some whale watching. Our guide was fantastic, he even showed my 9 yr old daughter how to handle puffer fish. Cheers, Jim

I'm leaving on November 30 with my two daughters. Thru Signature vacations out of Toronto.

See you there.

Hey, is anyone around the age of 17 going to be at the Maeva between the 3rd and the 10th??? greatly appreciated!

Hi, My boyfriend and his 2 children aged 5 and 9, and myself and my 2 children aged 5 and 7 are heading down to Club Maeva on Jan. 15, 2002. We are so excited! My main question is about the kids club...what exactly are the kids doing? And is there a way for the caregivers to reach you should the kids want out? Someone had suggested bring walkie talkies...is that necessary. My 5 year old is a little shy and may be nervous about the kids club..any thing I should tell him to entice him into it? I look forward to any of your comments! Thanks alot. Darcie Harrison

My family and I have finally decided to take the plunge and go on a trip around January 5, 2002. The problem is we cannot decide out of three places which one to choose: Manzanillo Puerto Vallarta Disneyland, California My two children, boy aged 10, girl aged 14 tend to get bored real easy and therefore I am wondering if Manzanillo or Puerto Vallarta would be an ideal place to go where my two kids would be kept busy and entertained for a whole week. They are also very fussy eaters; is there any kind of western food served at the hotels at either place? Originally when planning for this trip it was only between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta but I thought I would check into Disneyland because I really thought if my kids were given the choice it would be hands down Disneyland. However, they were disappointed and actually didn't want to go there. Go figure!! The dilemma is that chances are as a family this may be the first and only trip we go on and I just want to make sure that I have no regrets. Please comment or give ideas and suggestions. Thanks!!

we just got back ,it was great.the shows start around 7;30 mexican time.they have bank machine in the lobby.

try off teh Tenacatitat beach at the west end nice reef with lots of fish it is 75 k's north of manzanillo

I know how you feel. I am leaving for Manzanillo. I have done a a fair bit of research on this region and other area's of Mexico. I have been to Mexico before but not to this area. I have been to Puerto Vallarta. Its very nice and safe. It has some real nice beaches just a short way from the main tourist area. It would be very good for kids. Myself, I am going for three months. I will be trying to get a position teaching English to the locals. I will be on a budget. If you are going all out; both these places will offer you all of your vacation dreams. I talked to a familythat has been in Manzanillo and they just loved it. I have not been there yet so,I do not know yet. But they told me its really safe. I guess a coin toss would work between the two places.Well here's hoping for the best holiday. Carla

Try to be understanding of others. When people have not been somewhere they tend to be a little cautious. It's very understandable. I will be going to Colima, I need a place that is for the budget traveller. I will be staying for three months. I have been to various regions of Mexico but not to Colima. Maybe, I could rent a room at your parents house. Do they have homestays. I am going on air only. I want a cheap, clean and safe place fairly close to the costal area. Does anyone know where? I am going as a single traveller. I know why people are more worried to travel these days. I guess there has been a lot of problems for people travelling through Mexico. Mexico is changing and people want to be real sure of there safety. Myself, nothing in life is 100%, that's the adventure of travelling. I hope to hear from you. Carla

My interest would be to show them a little bit of Mexico. That may be hard to do if you go to an all inclusive resort .... but it would still be possible. Mexico is different enough to be interesting .... and if not the kids may have a more serious problem. PV has more of a developed tourist industry with more variety. If Mexico (some of the real Mexico) is not interesting .... then why not go to Hawaii. The beaches are prettier there.

I went to PV in the '80's and Manzanillo this past August. I would take the kids to PV. While Manzanillo, specifically Karmina Palace, is great, there is not a lot to do out of the resort and the older child may want more adventure. PV has it all! Personally, I would give them the exposure of a different culture that they can remember all their life. You can get great kids food--club sandwiches, pizza, etc in the Mexican resort areas. PV would be just the place, different but not too different. And they may meet kids from all over the US, Canada and Europe as well as Mexico! The whole family will value the experience.

Is anyone familar with the Las Hadas golf situation. I have just found out that Las Hadas course has been turned into a private club and will only accomodate the Las Hadas htel guests ! My husband and I are leaving Dec. 4th, staying at Karmina Palacae and are both avid golfers. I am hoping to find out if anyone has any helpful info on this subject.

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Thanks for writing, I apologize it's taken me so long to answer you - but my computer was not hooked up for about 2 weeks. My mother owns the house in Colima City in Mexico and I spoke to her about your inquiry and she said that YES she would be interested in renting you a room (or the whole house for that matter). You see, she doesn't live there all year round - only certain months of the year (they fluctuate). She is currently here in the U.S., but she's going back in about 2 weeks (December 17th I think) and will be staying in Mexico until around February. She's a Mexican citizen but is a legal resident and has her green card here in the U.S. She doesn't like the fact that the house sits alone while she's away. My dad WAS living there too, but he missed the U.S too much and came back and is living here now. My mom comes and goes since she can't leave her house down there abandoned forever - she does need to go and take care of things every now and then and pay the water and electric bills and such - the rest of us just go to visit on vacation now. My mom is from Colima so I have a ton of relatives there. My dad tried living there for a few years, but he basically said it was too hot there for him. Which makes no sense to me since he was born and raised in Puerto Rico (which is very hot) and didn't come to the U.S. until he was like in his 20's. He says he likes the cold weather now and is used to it. (Go figure). My mom however does not like cold weather at all. That's why she's going back there now - to avoid the coldest months of the winter season. Myself - I just needed to start making more money and saving up for the future. They don't have retirement plans down there or Social Securtiy for your old age and since I didn't find a "hubby" down there either, I thought I'd come back and try searching again up here. But at least I tried it and it was a nice change of pace. I miss it a lot and really wish I could live there forever, but I have to be realistic. I might look into going back permanently when I retire. But oh - I'm sorry - I'm babling aren't I? I apologize. So, anywhay, if your still interested in renting the room (or house depending on when your going), write back and we'll start to discuss it in more details. Of course my mom would like to know certain details like your full name, age, where you're from and exactly when you plan on going to Colima. But we can discuss all that later. Now, I want to mention something that may or may not be of interest to you. Since you're going for 3 months, I would recommend getting a job while your down there. When I lived there, (for 2 and 1/2 years) I worked as an english teacher. You don't need a teaching degree to work as a teacher. Most of the schools there will give you an exam you need to pass and they'll train you on the job. The institue I worked at was called "Ingles Individual". I had 2 co-workers who were Canadian and were roommates (they rented an apartment together). They worked part time at Ingles Individual, and full time at the technilogical university. Or you could also go to one of the other colleges, institutes, or the university, and speak to someone in the english department. A lot of the teachers and administratos are from other countries - like the U.S., Canada, England. But not all of them are from "out of town". A lot them are Mexicans, who learned english as a second language, and now teach it to others. It's really intersting to work with such a variety of people. You learn a lot, and I'm sure you'd feel comfortable because everyone there will be speaking english. Personally - I would highly recommend you try working at the Ingles Individual Institute. You can work part time or full time. Their schedules are very flexible, you don't take any work home with you at all, and they are a national franchise. You could probably earn enough to pay your expenses - or at least some of them. Now, let me tell you about the beaches - from Colima City - the nearest beach is "Playa Tecoman" which is in a town called Tecoman - and it is about a 1/2 hour drive from Colima City. (You cross a few winding roads on the mountains for a bit, then it becomes a flat road). There are buses that leave for the beaches all the time. If you keep going on the same road - and go past Tecoman for another 15 minutes or so, - the next beach you come to is "El Paraiso" After that, there's another beach called "Cuyutlan". Of course you have to get off the main road onto the exists to go to each beach - but it's the same highway that takes you there. And then if you keep on going you'll eventually arrive in Manzanillo. Manzanillo Beach is VERY well known and has a lot more tourism then the others. It has a lot of huge hotels by the beach and it's very beautiful. (Although it is much hotter there, than in Colima City. Colima City itself doesn't have a beach - but there are a lot of rivers and mountains that people love to visit - that are in the surrounding areas of it. Again, there are plenty of buses that will take you to the beaches. There are only 2 roads that go to the beaces - the new road and the old road. If you go to the main bus depot in Colima - the buses are much fancier - with tv moniters that play movies and they're air conditioned - etc. Some of the bus lines are: Omibus, ETN, La Linea - just to name a few. The ride is not long. It's 1/2 an hour from Colima City to Tecoman, about 45 minutes to 1 hour from Colima City to El Paraiso and Cuyutlan and 1 and a 1/2 hours from Colima City to Manzanillo. However, If you want to go to any of the beaches for the day and don't want to pay too much bus fair, than you'd need to go to the old bus depot known as "Los Camiones Rojos" - that's becuase all of those buses are RED. There is a down side to the cheaper buses - like for example - soliciters always climb on board to sing or sell something or just plain ask for money (but they get off before the bus actually leaves the city line) - the seat are not as comfortable (they're hard like the city buses), - they're not air conditioned, and they travel through the old road and make more stops - so they take longer to get to their desitnations. But the difference in time is not all that extreme, anywhere from 1/2 to an hour difference in travel time. So if your on a budget - you might want to travel on those buses instead. Oh, and by the way, there are Ingles Individual Institutes in Tecoman and in Manzanillo too. So again, let me know if you still want the room and I do hope that I've been of some assistance to you. It's always good to be well prepared for a journey. I guarantee you will fall in love with Colima! I know I did!

My family and I are going to Manzanillo (Blue Bay) this January, and I am trying to find information on what the weather will be like to help me pack. I like travelling lite, so I hate bringing clothes that I won't wear. I understand that the days will be warm and sunny, but what about the evenings and nites ??? Do I bring pants and sweaters, or skirts and tank tops ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ivona

Usually 82/72 during the Winter months

I can't respond to you question directly but we are going to Karmina Palace in Late January and are wondering the same sort of thing about golf. I believe the new name for the golf course is Mantayra ( or something like that ). I've also heard the people trading space with RCI may??? get golf as part of their package. Have you heard anything about that?

First, the club's name is "La Mantarraya" (The manta ray). Has been that for many years but was not used. I understand also that it's closed to non Las Hadas guests (we should be OK, we have a membership at this course). I believe Las Hadas is doing all it can to get people to stay at their hotel, which is gorgeous by the way, but no longer as modern as Karmina. But I understand also that Isla Navidad and El Tamarindo are offering some discounts and they are much superior golf courses. At the regular cost of about $80 US, Las Hadas is highway robbery. It's in poor condition. On the other hand it's much closer to all the hotels in Manzanillo. Good luck.

Does anyone know if Karmina Palace runs a shuttle to/from the airport?

I don't think they do. But the tour operator (Sunquest, Signature, etc.) will likely have made arrangeements with a bus operator in Manzanillo to take you (and everyone else) there.

3 bedrooms 2 baths [sleeps 6 to 8] this is a time share that we can not use. 2 bedrooms have king size beds 1 bedroom has 2 singel beds, living room has 2 pull out sofas [single]. has sat tv air conditioning 18 cubic refrigertor, cooking utensils, coffee maker, pots and pans. time share is ISLA DORADO, sierra no. 30, club santiago- manzanillo, colima mexico. christmas week-- december 19th to the 26th 2001 also same unit is available for rent january 25th to febuary 1st pictures and more info can be seen in the resort directory of INTERVAL INTERNATIONAL, vacation exchange I WILL PAY for name exchange and can send you the info I have from I I PLEASE email for more info www.kudriko@msn.com john and helen kudriko denton texas 940-484-2311

Jack: Thanks for the information.

Jack: Thanks for the information.

My family and I just got back from club Maeva and it was quite a bit of fun. Tons of activities every day including water aerobics, regular aerobics, water volleyball and basketball, and almost every other sport during the day (besides hockey). At night shows by the Maevamigos team that were awesome...7 different shows...they change every six months from what I heard. The food tasted good but didn't sit well in the stomach. People working there were real friendly, however some of the Mexican visitors were a little rude as they are the rich ones in Mexico and for whatever reason didn't feel the need to get to know us. Some of the rooms have awesome views (in the 600 and 700 villas)...I was lucky enough to have an awsome view in a room around the mid 600's. The beach is nice despite the people selling silver and other necklaces, as well as wraps, t-shirts, etc. The waves are good for boogie boarding, the water is really salty but I guess its like that all over Mexico. Overall I had lotsa fun, just wish I had learned at least a little Spanish before I went.

Hey there, I'm going to be at Maeva during these days and was wondering if anyone is going there the same time? What's the night life like? on the resort and off the resort? Looking forward to hearing response.......... Thanks!

Colima is a great state. I've recently visite Tecoman, Colima and it's beautiful.

Are you interested in owning a piece of our paradise? Please contact me for condos, houses, or property to purchase. Manzanillo is a great retirement opportunity.

Hi Anita: Just returned from two great weeks at Blue Bay Manzanillo and there is not a ATM. They have a money exchange at the front desk.....hope this is helpful...any other questions feel free to ask....Maria

Hi Maria, Just booked a week at the Blue Bay. Then I read a bad review of the food. What did you think of the meals and the facilities. Doris

Are you renting this place or looking for roommates. 4 of us will be there for this time. Please email me more info. Thank you. Art.

Are you renting this place or looking for roommates. 4 of us will be there for this time. Please email me more info. Thank you. Art.

I have emailed you send me your phone number I will call you. john kudriko 940-484-2311

I have emailed you send me your phone number I will call you. john kudriko 940-484-2311

I have emailed you send me your phone number I will call you. john kudriko 940-484-2311

Tenacatita Bay - Mexico to Manzanillo Does anyone know what the cost of a taxi from Blue Bay in Tenacatita to Las Hadas in Manzanillo would be?????

Tenacatita Bay - Mexico to Manzanillo Does anyone know what the cost of a taxi from Blue Bay in Tenacatita to Las Hadas in Manzanillo would be?????

Tenacatita Bay - Mexico to Manzanillo Does anyone know what the cost of a taxi from Blue Bay in Tenacatita to Las Hadas in Manzanillo would be????? Also What the transportation fees would be from the Airport to Las Hadas???/

I've read there is a nude beach at the BB, is this true? How much is it used?Thanks, Elvis

Hi All! My husband and I went to Manzanillo on September 8th! Yes we were stuck there during the September 11th disaster. We could not return until the 19th. Not a bad place to get stuck at all!! The locals are some of the friendliest people we have ever met in Mexico! Manzanillo is by far my favorite on the Mexican Rivera. This place is not over run by tourists, it is quiet and still has the excellent flavor of real Mexico. (In my opinion Cabo, Matzatlan and Puerto Vallarta are too busy with tourists.) The tourists in Manzanillo tend to stick to the all inclusive resorts....too bad as Manzanillo has so much to offer. It would take over two weeks to explore all the beaches within the Manzanillo area. And the hidden shopping areas were fun to find and even more fun to shop as the locals are very very friendly. The assortment of restuarants along the hotel strip were equally as fun to explore. Each one has its own atmosphere and specialties. We ate our way home from a diving trip one day, stopped at 4 restuarants and ate every kind of seafood available. (Diving makes you very hungry) About the diving! This is an incredible experience!!!! We dove many sites while we were there and still did not see them all! The water temperature was 86 degrees ....even at 90 feet!! The visibility was 70-100+. We have definately not finished diving this area and will go back just for the diving many times. Some say we went during the wrong time of the year however, this time of the year in Manzanillo is by far the most beautiful! Everything is a lush jungle green. During the touristy season this area is brown. Now for where we stayed.....we do not believe is staying in the all inclusive resorts. They are great for some, especially if you have children, but they are not for the adventurous or economical minded persons such as ourselves. If we would have stayed in a resort, we would not have experienced the many restuarants available in Manzanillo. There are many many hotels and available condos at very reasonable prices. We stayed in a condo operated by a local car rental shop. It was on Las Brisas Beach. This is a narrow strip at the end of the hotel zone closest to downtown Manzanillo. Very quiet with beautiful beaches. I have posted pictures of the condo where we stayed as I wanted to show my appreciation for the wonderful service Alan (operator) showed to me and my husband while we were there. If you are interested in going to Manzanillo, check out these accomodations. This is a quiet part of the hotel zone so if you want to party all the time this is probably not the place for you. The complex is mostly privately owned and not rented. It has a beautiful private pool and is right on the beach! Go here to check out the photos and find out how to contact Alan. www.stonewolfgems.com/Rocadelmar.htm If you do contact him, Please let him know I sent you! For diving the most ultimate shop in the world is located in Manzanillo. Neptunes! These people were the best! We had so much fun diving with them, they become part of your life forever!! Yoko, Ferro, Kylie, George all of them are wonderful people. You can check them out here www.neptunesdiving.com I could type for hours about all the things to do in Manzanillo! If you are interested in a more detail report of what we did, where we ate, where we did our diving, anything like that just give me an email! I would love to chat! maurita@proaxis.com

We just got back from Mazanillo last week and stayed in condos in between Las Hadas and Karmina. About 3 weeks ago, Las Hadas went to a "private" golf course which only allows their guests to use it. Since that time, Karmina has made agreements with at least one other golf course to use their facility and Karmina will provide the transportation. IT seems to be battle between the two hotels.

3 bedrooms 2 baths [sleeps 6 to 8] this is a time share for the week of january 25th to febuary 1st. we can not use so we are trying to rent it. ISLA DORADO SIERRA NO. 30 CLUB SANTIAGO MANZANILL COLIMA, MEXICO 2 of the bedrooms have king size beds 1 has 2 singel----- living room has 2 pull out sofas [singel] swimming pool ,has sat tv air conditioning 18 cubic refrigertor, cooking untensils, coffee maker, pots and pans. pictures and mome can be seen on their site. $250 us for the week I don't thing their is any other charges john kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com denton texas 940-484-2311

3 bedrooms 2 baths [sleeps 6 to 8] this is a time share for the week of january 25th to febuary 1st. we can not use so we are trying to rent it. ISLA DORADO SIERRA NO. 30 CLUB SANTIAGO MANZANILL COLIMA, MEXICO 2 of the bedrooms have king size beds 1 has 2 singel----- living room has 2 pull out sofas [singel] swimming pool ,has sat tv air conditioning 18 cubic refrigertor, cooking untensils, coffee maker, pots and pans. pictures and mome can be seen on their site. $250 us for the week I don't thing their is any other charges john kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com denton texas 940-484-2311

Hi there. I'll be in manzanillo for my wedding as of January 29th and having never travelled anywhere before, I'm not sure what the best way to handle currency exchange is. Some are telling me to just use my bank card and withdraw money as I go, and others are telling me to do the exchanges here before I go. As with all things, I've heard positive and negative feedback about this. If anyone has any advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks!! Chelsea

Just wondering how the trip went and whether everything worked out?? Chelsea

Hi Chelsea... I just returned from Huatulco Dec.6... Click over to the Huatulco visitor comments and look for the posting "Currency for Canucks". Hope that these rates may apply to Manzanillo as well. Good luck with the wedding !!!!!! JMC

DON'T, DON'T exchange money in Canada or the US for pesos. You get "robbed" by about 10% versus the Official exchange rate. Use your bank card or your Visa card (as long as you have a PIN to allow you to take money from the bank machine. There are plenty of money machines around and they let you pull money at the same limit as in Canada (in pesos). Depending onthe bank you may have to pay for exchange to US $ then to CDN$, but that's still a lot cheaper than getting Mexican pesos from Canada. Actually, that rule applies to jsut about any currency except US$. So wherever you travel, you should plan on using your bank card, not to get local currency in Canada or the US.

If you are going for a wedding then you must have a package at a resort. If so there should be no concern because most of your stay is pre-payed. There should be a bank close by that has an ATM if you need spending money ... and the airport now has an ATM. Get a couple/three hundred dollars at the airport ($200=2000 pesos more or less [9.22 or so]). Bring two cards (machines do swallow them at times) and a little CASH. Exchanging cash and/or travelers checks at a bank should not cost you any exchange difference .... besides, who cares .... a few bucks don't compare to an enjoyable vacation. Cash, Travelers Checks and Credit/Debit cards are all that is needed

Hi Darcie, We are also going to club Maeva leaving on the 15th. I have a 9 year old boy and a 12 year old boy. The 12 year old is getting walkie talkie's for Christmas and I had also read that comment. I'm going to take them, from what I've heard there can be quite a distance from one end of the complex to another. We are leaving from Edmonton, how about you? Susan

here is the web site for ISLA DORADO manzanillo www.isladorado.com.mx

My family (daughters 10 & 13) were at the Maeva last February, and are returning again this Feb. We brought walkie talkies with us and found them quite useful. Not required for the kids club, but the staff really has no way of contacting you. Over a certain age, with parental permission, children can sign themselves out. Otherwise the kids area is a locked, fenced, area and is quite secure. Activities include children pool, games, video games, and crafts (small fee charged). The kids also get the chance to be in one of the evening shows, and get to go to rehersal and everything. Was a big hit with our 10 yr old. Have a great time. Jim

One more point worth mentioning. Parents are not allowed in the kids club area, even if you children are shy ...

Debit Card-- Comes direct from your account at the exchange rate the moment of the transaction. Charges are only what (IF ANY) your bank charges you for international withdrawals. Usually under $2 US Credit card-- Accepted at hotels, better restaurants, some merchants. NOT preferred for shopping, see below. Using for cash advances will get you the WORST exchange of the day, involve about a 7.5% fee for processing PLUS your card company charges of 2% or so AND the international fee. Merchants accepting credit cards AUTOMATICALLY have the VAT deducted from their accounts; IN ADDITION, they have to pay the 7.5% processing fee, thus cash usually gets a 10% discount. Cash-- US dollars accepted, usually at a bad rate. Pesos preferred; Canadian dollars looked at in strange ways in most places but accepted in many and the cambios. Traveler's checks accepted at banks, cambios, hotels and many other places--same as cash. Exchange rates: Best-- The banks, only because you don't pay the ATM fee but you get to stand in line 2nd Best & most convenient-- ATM's, withdraw maximum amount, lose 0 to 1% Cambios-- lose a few dollars on rate, OK for traveler's checks and cash money Credit Cards-- BIG HINT--IF you feel your account doesn't have the cash then take the cash advance BEFORE LEAVING HOME and put it in your account. You will save MAJOR dollars!!! OR spend a lot of time crying over the cost of your vacation after the fact.

If their is any one that is interested in this rental please let us know because we are going to do something else soon. we can give references from some one that took our week in Christmas. they were VERY happy. john kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com

Recently took all my dive gear to a resort in Neuvo Vallarta, the diving was not good at all 20 feet visability at the most, cold, not much for marine life, however we could hear the whales. The cost was $60.00 us per tank. I would not take my gear again or pay $60.00 us for this kind of diving. Is the diving better at Manzanillo? Im staying at Club Meava, can you book diving trips from this hotel or is this not a ggod idea,can you rent gear at any of the dive shops? thanks for your replys Mike

Try www.gomanzanillo.com

A bunch of cold canucks here...just booked to spend some time at Blue Bay... any one else going to be at Blue Bay from jan 16-23rd?... We are flying out of T.O.... first timers to the area, and it sounds great. Any one have any suggestions for a night out, or restaurant? thx

Stop in on the sleepy fishing village of La Manzanilla (www.lamanzanillamexico.info) and eat at Martine's or Palapa Joe's. If you want traditional beach palapa mom & pop food eat at El Bocas on the beach in the center of town.

Were going to Club Maeva in the third week in Jan. Can anyone tell me if baby diapers(Pampers) are readily availible and reasonbly priced, or should we bring enough supply from home? Thanks.

They can take care of you. They're great.

Yes they are and the price is about what you would pay in the US/Canada. Cheaper in a larger store ... but you can get them at the local super-mini.

and it is never going to be as good as the east coast. There is no good diving close to PV due to the sandy beaches, closeness to river mouth and waste from the city.

Hi...not too much chatter about the Sierra on here these days. We stayed there almost 3 years ago and loved it. We are thinking of returning this year and are wondering how it has been in the past year or so. Still great I hope. Any comments/info greatly appreciated. Thanks

Does anyone know if there are local access numbers for AOL, Earthlink or MSN in Manzanillo . Im looking for access from my hotel room

If any other canadians travelling with sunquest could tell us?... how is the transfer done....do the guests of blue bay have to travel and drop of people from manzanillo resorts first....any advice would be helpful.

3 bedrooms 2 bath [sleeps 6 to 8] this is a time share for the week of January 25th to Febuary 1st. we can not go this week and MUST try to rent it. Isla dorado Sierra no.30 Club Santiago manzanillo colima, mexico 2 of the bedrooms have king size beds 1 has [2] singel living room has 2 pull out sofas [singel] swimming pool,sat tv, air conditioning,18 cubic refrigertor,cooking untensils,coffee maker,pots and pans. pictures and more can be seen at www.isladorado.com.mx also the person that rented it for Christmas loved it and will let you contact them. $225 us john kudriko denton texas 940-484-2311 www.kudriko@msn.com

HAPPY NEW YEAR 3 bedrooms 2 bath [sleeps 6 to 8] this is a time share for the week of January 25th to Febuary 1st. we can not go this week and MUST try to rent it. Isla dorado Sierra no.30 Club Santiago manzanillo colima, mexico 2 of the bedrooms have king size beds 1 has [2] singel living room has 2 pull out sofas [singel] swimming pool,sat tv, air conditioning,18 cubic refrigertor,cooking untensils,coffee maker,pots and pans. pictures and more can be seen at www.isladorado.com.mx also the person that rented it for Christmas loved it and will let you contact them. $225 us john kudriko denton texas 940-484-2311 www.kudriko@msn.com

Blue Bay is the opposite driection from Manzanillo approx. 30 miles. So don't think you would be on the same shuttle/taxi. Check with the hotel to see if picking you up is part of your package. If not expect to pay $50US or more for a one way taxi to BB north of La Manzanilla approx. 4 miles.

I just came back from traveling all over Mexico for 3 weeks. I used the ATM and it was the best way to get pesos. I took 2 cards just in case the machine ate the other one.

Will be staying at the Club Maeva, and am interested in making a day trip to Barra. Wouldn't mind seeing the sites on the way, check out a few beaches etc. Would like to be more flexible than taking the bus. Any suggestions ?? Jim

Not much to see between Maeva and Barra ( Isla Navidad golf-resort complex). Definitely check out San Patricio also while in the area. Take a taxi to Barra then catch an interurban to San Patricio/Melaque or just take anoth taxi. Travel distance is approx. 20+ miles from Maeva to Barra and San Patricio is right next door sharing the Bay of Navidad!

Hello T&J...Returned Dec 7th from my 13th time to Blue Bay in Manzanillo. You will be picked up at the airport and driven directly to the hotel...none stop, no other hotels involved! (no fee, it is part of your all inclusive package) The same on the return trip, it takes just about one hour from the airport to the hotel....I think you wrote me last week, but was having computer troubles....any more questions, please feel free to ask! Wish I was on my way again!!!! Warmest Regards Ms Maria

well if this is what it takes to get you to look so be it. we have a time share week of january 25th to febuary 1st www.isladorado.com.mx make a offer john kudriko www.kudriko@msn.com

our family, 4 adults 2 kids, are traveling to Manzanillo in March. Does anyone have any suggestions on hotels. We have heard a lot of bad reviews on the Karmina are they all true? Also any help with golf ideas would be great. Thanks

Hi..I am just wondering if anyone has stayed at the Karmina lately. I would like to hear some comments. I am wondering if the food and service has improved.

We are from Vancouver BC going to the Blue Bay for two weeks, we are interest in renting a car or jeep for a couple of days to do some side trips to nearby villages and Barra and Manzanillo. We are a couple fluent in Spanish, we have a ten year old daughter. We have travelled the area frequently. We are looking for other people who might be interested in sharing the cost of renting a vehicle for the side trips. If you are interested please feel free to email us. You might consider my husband Carlos your personal tour guide, (we drove and explored the area before in a volkswagon bug convertible) as he seems to have a knack with the locals and finding all the good spots. We have however, got alot of info from this site and cant wait to check out the area again. Note: we usually dont do the all inclusive resort thing (price was too good to resist) thats why we are renting vehicle to get out and about.

time share is gone u snooz you lose. john k

Question about Blue Bay Resort Do they have such a thing as a day pass to enjoy the pools etc. Our daughter is celebrating a birthday during the time we are down in Mexico and I wanted to do a day trip with her at a resort ... sit by the pool etc. or maybe the Sierra Manizanillo? I have tried researching the net and have not been able to locate any info. thanks.

Wife and I are planning to go to Manzanillo in Feb. for our 5th anniversary. Neither of us require anything too fancy as far as a room goes, but we would like safe and comfortable. Anyone have any experience with the La Posada B&B? Or if not, any other reccomendations. Would like to be on or very near the beach. Also, I plan to fish a couple of days while I am there. I have e-mailed Ocean Pacific Adventures and they seem to be what I am looking for. Anyone have any experience with them? Any other reccomendations for offshore charter? Did I mention this will be our first time to Manzanillo... Thanks for any input... Scott

La Posada is fine, safe and comfortable and right on the beach. The rooms are not fancy, but you don't spend much time in them anyway. The typical guest is on the mature side, so it is not a big party place if that is what you are looking for. The breakfast is great. I'm not sure if I have fished Ocean Pacific Adventures, so I can't comment on them, but all the charters are located in the same place and I have fished with most of them . There are also private charters. Take a taxi or bus into manzanillo; right before you get to the main square you'll see many fishing boats by the railroad tracks. Stop there and you'll find a fishing charter. Last year we paid I think $200 US for 1/2 day charter, had 4 teenagers and 2 adults on the boat, all the kids caught fish including 2 sails. Drop me a line if you have any more questions. You'll have a great time.

Hi Candy, I am very interested in purchasing in Manzanillo - preferably on Santiago Bay. Please send me more - We just returned from two weeks there in the fabulous sun!

Hey Leo Have u been to club maeva yet???? if not when u r going plz answer asap (before march 15 anyway) ps-id prefer if u emailed me because i check my email more than this but dont bother if its 2 much hassle thanx

my email address is yukonchic_1@hotmail.com

hi is anyone with kids around the ages of 11-13 going to club maeva around the last 2 weeks of march 2002 ps-not including arjia bunkis:( id apprectiate it if u emailed me ( yukonchic_1@hotmail.com ) Thanx

Hi, we just booked a trip and are staying at Maeva in March, we were told there would be a lot of stairs to the beach... I read an earlier email suggesting that the beach sucked... now I am wondering about this, is there any more information / picture of the set up, if you want a drink how may stairs are you walking.As well we will have two 15yrs old with us, can they get into the disco (their hoping so.) thanks Laurie

Most places with links/pages on "gomanzanillo" web site are pretty good .... http://www.gomanzanillo.com/hotels/posada/index.htm

Does anyone know how to get golf discounts at El Tamarindo or the Grand Bay golf course? Last year when we were there the price was $160US.

Hi, We are planning on spending a week at one of the two resorts. Has anyone stayed at either and which has the best location. Would there be bus service to the Malecon etc. Seems by the pictures these places are a little out of the way? Thanks Gracias Sandra

This year, 2002, Easter week and spring break land on the same week. The thought here is that the Mexicans head for the beach as well as maybe more than a few Americans. Does this sound like the case to those who know? We'll appreciate any opinions. Bruce A.

Hi Laurie Sorry, but your 15 year olds will be disapointed. I was 16 when I went to CM, and if you ask for an adult bracelet when you check in (as i did), they ask and check an id. There are some bartenders in the resturants that would serve you hard drinks, but they also checked id at the entrance to the disco, so even if you hide your bracelet and try to get in, it doesn't work (believe me, i tried that too) But there is a more family oriented club that is open the evenings the disco is not, and there is a full bar there, with games (kinda cheesy) and followed by dancing to Latino music, so at least I didn't totally miss out on the nightclub part. If you have any questions feel free to email me

Very difficult at Tamarindo. At Isla, I have tickets. Ready to sell a few for $120US. (You need to buy a bunch, say 40 to get a good discount) I'll be in Manzanillo at end of this month. Let me know if you're interested.

Hey, what's up?? Cool news - I am going to Club Maeva for two weeks in mid-January. If Arjia is going that would be cool, we both swim together with the Whitehorse Glacier Swim Team. She is such a nut that girl! Let me know, Robyn

Looking for replies on whether vacationing at a Manzanillo villa would be right place to go for group of 10 adults looking to relax by the pool, snorkel, play some golf on some above average golf courses. How's the water, beaches, and food? Heard there is a power plant nearby - does this factor in negatively? thanks in advance for your replies:

Hi. I have been to Manzanillo twice,both times with friends and children. We loved ot both times. It is very relaxing and friendly. I am not sure whre the villa you are interested in is located so can't comment on the power plant. It is still a part of the unspoiled Mexico. Tourism is definately important however it is a port city with some great hotels,food and people. As I just said,there are many great little restaurants to enjoy. I would highly reccommend a visit to Manzanillo,we will do it again and again and again.

Spring break starts on the March 17th, Holy Week will run from March 23-April 7, it is a very busy time at the beach. In Manzanillo lots of Mexicans come for the first week and then the second week is a little quieter but it is busy, restaurants, grocery stores, and the streets are hectic !! The locals will tell you to buy lots of groceries, rent a bunch of movies and stay home ! I believe Spring break ends on the 24th and Good Friday is the 29th. Holy Week is two weeks long!

Our group of 15 adults are traveling to Manzanillo in April 2002. We opted for the more personal environment of our own Villa. There are several available if you spend the time searching on the internet. We found the cost to be comparable to staying at a luxury hotel, but best of all it comes with it's own staff who will even cook our meals. The idea of eating authentic Mexican food whenever we desired was appealing to us. It also has it's own pool, hot tub, etc. You can check it out at www.villalq.com. Keep searching because they are out there................

I went to Maeva several years ago, and although there is a walk to the beach, I personally don't remember there being too many stairs. I could be wrong though. The problems I had with the beach was that there were tons of locals there trying to sell souvenirs to the "beach bums." It was really annoying, because they just kept coming. Also, the waves can get pretty intense. I was sucked into an undertow when a wave broke on me in just the right way. Got dragged along the bottom and prayed that I'd resurface soon. And there weren't any life guards when I went. On the flip side, the water looked like it had flecks of gold in it, which was cool. The beach is called "Playa de Oro" for that reason. Also, we saw dolphins swimming and playing in the water on several occasions, which was cool as well. I hope you have a great time. I'd love to go back, but none of the travel agencies in Massachusetts do a package tour there anymore:(

Spoke with a couple at the airport in Manzanillo in December who had just spent a week at the Karmina. They said the rooms were great but the food and the service sucked.

Our party of 4 or 5 will be staying at Club Maeva in early May. We are unsure about the "all inclusive" system. Can you choose to do it day by day or do you have to decide when you register? Also are the services, drinks, food & shows expensive if you choose not to select the "all inclusive" package? Oh and one last question. How is the grocery store in town? Good selection? Packaged goods? Liquor? Meats? Dairy? Veggies? Thanks for any help anyone can provide!

I think Maeva is all inclusive, period. I don't think they'll let you choose on a day by day if you want to be all inclusive or not. Perhaps someone can clarify this point for you. I think if you want to save a bit by preparing your own meals, you should rent an apartment. To answer your second question, there are two big supermarkets on the main road about 5 k from Maeva: Commercial Mexicana and Soriana, a bit further. Each of these has everything you may need, very clean and at good prices. Cabs are cheap if you don't have other means of transportation.

Thank you so much for your info Joe. We have already traded a time share week to stay at Club Maeva. We have a 2 bedroom unit with a kitchen. My nieces are in their early 20's and are on a fixed budget thus the need to save $$. They both love Mexico and want to go on almost every exchange we make but money is always a factor. Thanks again!

We are going to Manzanillo in Feb. and would appreciate any info on where to go, what to see and anything that might be helpful. What are the clubs like there? Are they safe for young women to go to at night. where to go to shop? where to eat? Thanks soooo much for anyones help!!!

We are going to Manzanillo in Feb. and would appreciate any info on where to go, what to see and anything that might be helpful. What are the clubs like there? Are they safe for young women to go to at night. where to go to shop? where to eat? Thanks soooo much for anyones help!!!

We went to Club Maeva with my 4 children, husband, and I it was a fabulous place to go there were so many activities and it was a reasonable price! Katie

Depending on your age and what you like to do......there is nightlife if you want, but Manzanillo is much more 'laid 'back' than some of it's other destinations like Acapulco or Cancun. It is more of a quite town that is not SOOO commercialized and is more typical of the way the Mexicans actually live. It is a very safe place to visit (unlike maybe Guadalahara or Mexico City). There is almost no crime to speak of there. It is similar to living in 'small-town' USA. And yes, it is safe to young women to go the nightclubs at night......just don't be stupid (like getting roaring drunk, stumble down a dark alley at 2 a.m. with alot of money falling out of your pocket) .... just don't look for any trouble and you won't find any! I know a single woman who lives in Manzanillo and she goes any/every where by herself and feels totally safe. One nightclub, in particular, that you might like is 'Colima Bay Cafe' (very good food) .....it's pretty quite in the early evening, but if you go there around 9:30-10:00pm they crank up the music and it starts getting quite lively and seems to be a very popular place for the 'younger crowd'. They do have very good food, so you might want to go earlier for dinner and stay for the 'party'.I still like it and think it is great fun.......just can't keep up to that pace anymore. There is 'disco' called 'VOG' that is very popular with the very young. Light show at midnight......has cover, but don't know how much. If you like Italian, there is a restaurant (that just moved) right next to Colima Bay Cafe called 'Portifino's'......excellent food. They have pizza, alfredo, ravioli, lasagna, etc. Jalapeños has seafood, steaks and Mexican that reasonably priced. They make something called "sexy coffee" (other rests. in the area make it also, but they are one of the best)......try it......it's a REAL EXPERIENCE that is very 'enlightening' :-) Juanito's is popular with alot of Americans. They serve Mex. and Am. foods like hamburger & malts, etc. They serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Very reasonably priced. Margarita's is on the beach across from the Hotel Vista Playa de Oro. Very nice view (can get a little breezy.....sits up about the water). If you want a NICE restaurant that's a little 'out of the way' and may cost a bit to get there/back by taxi, but the view is SPECTACULAR! Go to "L 'Recif'. It is situated high on a cliff, overlooking rock outcroppings in a small cove. Perfect at sunset and stunning at night when they have the beach lighted so you can watch the waves crash against the jagged rock pinnacles. There are a number of establishments that have 'fiestas' (and I've been to a number of them), but one that I thought was very good is at Club Maeva Resort. Don't remember what night they have it, so you would have to check. There is one charge for all drinks, food (which is extremely plentiful) and live entertainment. I think the last time we went the cost was approximately in the $20 range per person, but worth it! If you like to snorkel or scuba I would recommend 'Underworld Scuba' owned by Susan Dearing who is American. She has owned this business in Manzanillo for approx. 10 years and is extremely experienced. All employees are certified as PADI, YMCA, or CMAS Divemasters or higher. There is a shopping mall with little shops and a big grocery store that you can find almost anything you might want (including some clothes, home items, pharmacy, liquour/beer) and it's air-conditioned. Since I was there last spring, they built a new shopping establishment that a couple of my friends say is fabulous. I haveen't seen it yet, but I can hardly wait. As a matter of fact we are going in early to mid February (2002) for a couple of weeks. We (my husband and I) love it there so much that we built a house that was just finished last winter. I saw that you are going in Feb. also.....if you are going to be there when we are and If you read this (before I leave for Manzanillo) and we could be of some assistance to you while we are there, we would be glad to help if we can. You can email me direct at: vimoli@juno.com There is a resort called 'Club M

We have a home in Manzanillo so am not familar with staying in any of the hotels. I believe the Karmina Palace is an 'all inclusive' and LOOKS beautiful and is only a couple of years old, but I can't comment on the service, food, etc. There are a couple of very nice golf courses......Las Hadas (large, expensive) and there is a course in Club Santiago (open to the public) which is VERY nice and not as expensive. We have a house that we do use as a B&B but only have 2 available rooms for rent. I also have friends that operate as a B&B that have 3 rooms they rent out.....don't know if they are available or not, though. If interested, you can email me and I can relay the message to my friend......... vimoli@juno.com. If interested please reply before Feb. 4 because I will be leaving for Manzanillo and won't be back until late Feb.

You should check out www.vacationrentals.com. Go to Mexico, Pacific Coast, Manzanillo and you can see pictures of villas that are available.

You should check out www.vacationrentals.com. Go to Mexico, Pacific Coast, Manzanillo and you can see pictures of villas that are available.

Does anyone know the current fare from Manzanillo airport into Santiago? Can't remember what we paid last time, and want to have the pesos with us when we arrive. Thanks

the best web site I have found is www.gomanzanillo.com check it out; it covers everything from beaches to hotels to restaurants to daily life in Manzanillo. I ordered the traveler's guide advertised on this same web site and we're taking it along when we go in April.

Hi, I am a senior in high school. For our spring break, my friend and I will be going to Club Maeva March 29 - April 4. Will we have a good time? Will there be other teens our age? Is there a lot to do? How is the club at night? Any information at all would be great!! Thanks!!! Lauren StaRRoXy1@aol.com

What exactly is there to do at Club Maeva at night? My friend and I will be 17... Will we need Adult bracelets to get into the disco? Any information would be great! Thanks! Lauren

It was 280 pesos in November. Thye'll have the rates posted at the taxi counter right across from the doors where you enter Mexico!

I am interested in reasonable accom. in Manzanillo in late March or early Apr. Please e-mail me you costs for one week stay and any info on cheap golf. Regards David M.

I am thinking of staying at the blue bay hotel with my children. My mom is living in Mexico and she recommended it. I have some doubts. How did you decide on this hotel if you don't mind me asking?

Just booked a two Bedroom villa at Club Maeva 2nd week Feb, the weather here got to me....any comments on Club Maeva? First time to Mexico but I have been to U.S.VI, Dominican Republic, Cuba any comments on Manzinillo? Viajo con mi esposa y dos hijas, 14, 16 y un hijo 19.. Thanks, Steve

I am sure you and your family will have a good time. Lots of activities to do. Volleyball, basketball, archery, the shows at night are very good and the Maevamigos are great and will make sure you have a good time. Family disco plus a disco over 18. Waterpolo in the afternoon. and so on. We had a great time last year and wish we were going again.

You will have a great time but yes you need to be 18 to get into the adult disco. Lots of activities during the day and great shows at night. Food pretty good and rooms were nice and clean when we went last year.

Hi, I'm planning on booking a two week stay at Club Maeva for March/April, but need some help deciding. I have been poring over the message boards and have only read a few negative comments, but of course they put doubt in your mind. I'm worried about the beach, is it really as bad as some people are saying? Someone posted that a kid lost their hand after being stung by a scorpion at the beach, is this just a freak one time thing? I've also read a few posting of people getting money stolen from there room and even from there room safe, this doesn't sound to welcoming. I'm also not sure I like the kids being locked in for the kids club, there 9,7,5. We went to Cancun 2 years ago and we know that this won't compare, but I'm worried that 2 weeks might be too long. Another thing worrying me is the comments about a lot of sandflies and bees? I was told the resort is overrun with cats? Don't get me wrong I really want to go here, but these are the comments I have read and need to have my mind at rest before I can go ahead and book it. Thanks

Im 16 and i'll be there around that time...closer to the 6th and the 13th though.

Hi Shelley, I just returned from Maeva two days ago. I was with my wife, two year old, my sister inlaw and her seven year old. We didn't spend much time at the beach but people we talked to spent plenty of time there and had no complaints. The resort has 2-3 cats running around but they were a non issue to us and we don't care for cats in the least. There were a few bees around one corner of the pool but if the area was free from emty drink cups, you wouldn't really notice them. I didn't hear of anyone being stung this past week. Our kids made friends so they didn't use the kids club so I can't comment on it. It was populated with kids everyday though and I know security was strict for that area. No problems with the room safe or anything being stolen. Our family had a great week there and the attention that is paid to kids is very impressive. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Dustin

We are going to be in the Barra area from Mar 6 - 20 and would like to hook up with someone else to do some tours and would be happy to split up the expenses. When are you coming down?

Does anyone know if a daily all inclusive rate is available at Club Maeva? We have friends that have recommended dining out for dinner in Manzanillo but we may want to spend a day or two just relaxing at the resort & would like the trouble free all inclusive plan on these days. Any help? thanks

hey robyn arjia is going to be in mexico the same time as me and my family:( i hope she doesn't ruin the whole thing ur pretty lucky that u wont be going at the same time as her

We just got back from Manzanillo, our second trip. We stay at Plaza las Glorias and love it. It's nice and quiet but it also has a lot of steps. I too have heard bad reports on Karmina. The people I've talked to said that 1/2 of it was closed for some reason. Plaza las Glorias over looks the Las Hadas golf course. It's beautiful. Please let me know if there's any other info you'd like about Manzanillo, as we love it there.

We like Plaza las Glorias. Very friendly people there, but it also has a lot of steps. If you'd like any more info please contact me at above address, as we love it in Manzanillo.

I have a 3 bdrm condo on the beach come available for the first 3 weeks in March if anyone is interested.

If anyone has flown into Manzanillo lately, I'd like to know if the Colima volcano activity can be seen from the air or by land.

This is our first time to Mexico and we are exploring an all-inclusive package with the Hotel Sierra in Manzanillo. We're looking for a relaxing vacation with a bit of water fun (body surfing, snorkeling, kayaking) and a nice beach to lounge on (maybe where I can fly my stunt kites). Any comments from anyone who has stayed at this hotel? Any info at all? Rai Martin

We found this Hotel to be Excellent, it's in a secluded Bay, where you can Swim, Snorkel, kayak, etc. The entertainment staff was a lot of fun, food was really quite good, and the hotel itself is quite nice!! I took the snorkel tour, which leaves from this bay and found it to be quite good (not as good as the Carribean side, but better than I expected). The Beach is much better here than anywhere we explored. A few Restaurants and Night clubs (Carlos & Charlies) within walking distance, and a nice golf course nearby. A trip into the City is worth it, take the Bus it's fun!! All in all I would definately recommend this hotel, it was fantastic. There are two other Hotels that looked very nice as well, Karmina Palace & Las Hasda, but they are a little more expensive. Hope this helps. Daron

Nancy, We were there in November 2000, and it still was excellent!!! Daron

LA VISIBILIDAD DEPENDE DE LAS CONDICIONES CLIMATOLÓGICAS. LA HORA QUE APARECE EN LAS IMÁGENES ES LA HORA DEL MERIDIANO DE GREENWICH (-6h. GMT) U of Colima http://www.ucol.mx/volcan/envivo_naranjal.html

We just came back from Manzanillo and could see the volcano smoking from the air. Though we didn't get to see it from the ground, it rained for the first time in 11 yrs on that date. lol

Hi MArgaret, We have 2 young boys and were thinking of comming to MExico for the second and third weeks of MArch. Whwere is the condo and what would you charge us? THanks for the reply. Please reply to our e-mail address Bryce

there are sandflies but just put on bug spray.the bugs come out around 4 in the afternoon. the beach is fine but the surf is hard hitting.a couple people dislocated shoulders body surfing.the bees were only around the poolside bar.guess they like anything sweet.

Does anyone have any information on the golf course(s) in and around Manzanillo. How challenging and how much? I saw one

Can you rent scooters at Club Maeva to get into town? If so, how much does it cost? Is this a good form of transportation? Anyone have any experience with these? Thanks! Lauren

We returned one week ago from Club Maeva. Our teenager enjoyed herself the most, she did not get sick. The hotel is a 3 star at the most, the food is bland and repetative. The rooms are 3 star, old smelly and warm if your air is not working. People were ordering pizza from the Dominos on the resorts grounds. We are not sure if our youngest daughter had food poisoning the doctor suggested she did. My trip into town was to the pharmacia to purchase prescribed meds for our family, my wife and i were also sick although we just lost one day around the pool. We did not like the 50 yards of beach the resort has a right to. to many pelicans to swim anyway. Would we go back? not a chance. I prefer the allegro's Mike

I have never seen a scooter in Manzanillo, the Pizza delivery guy uses a small motorcycle. I would think that a scooter would not be a very safe mode of transportation, the roads are not the best and the lanes are narrow! I thought Maeva had a shuttle. Margaret

We're arriving at the Puerto Vallarta airport around 3pm on Sunday, February 24. Sometime that afternoon we hope to be headed to Santiago/Manzanillo. Can you tell me what first-class busses are available? What are their departure and arrival times? Muchas gracias.

You have to stay over night Origen Destino Clase Fecha de Viaje Completo Medio PUERTO VALLARTA MELAQUE, JAL Primera Plus 15/02/02 $ 138 $ 69 (Tarifas suceptibles a cambio sin previo aviso)Horarios Disponibles Horario Local/Paso Escalas Llega 07:45 LOCAL 5 11:45 12:30 LOCAL 6 17:15

We are staying at the Sierra from the 16th through the 23rd. I am looking to play golf and smoke Cuban Cigars. Any suggestions?

Any good cigar stores in Manzanillo?

Are there jet skis available for rent at Club Maeva's beach area? Or will we have to go elsewhere? Thanks! Lauren

My friend and I are travelling to Manzanillo on March 5, 2002 and cannot decide which hotel to stay at. We're 29 and looking to meet people within the resort and party with. We're not looking to head out too much to the bars in order to save some money! Can anyone recommend which one is better suited for us? Discos, younger/older crowds?

I was wondering if anyone knows about taking a bus from Manzanillo to Acapulco? I have searched all the internet busline sites I can find, but none has anything on this particular route. Thanks for your help

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Just spent 6-13 Feb at Maeva with my wife and 3 teenagers, had a great time food, villas and entertainment were great. Would return. Steve

yes maeva is all inclusive, food and drinks, allday and discos till 3:00 am. stayed there for 2 weeks jan 22 to feb 5th. enjoyed it and the weather was great. + 30,

not sure if there is a daily only all inclusive , thought i'd better ad that.

I recently returned from a trip along the Costa Alegre with my family. While there we had the pleasure of doing a day of sea kayaking and snorkeling with Immersion Adventures, based in La Manzanilla. The owner, Dave Collins, drove us to a place called La Vena from our hotel in Barra. From there we embarked into Tenacatita Bay and paddled north toward Tenacatita. On our way we stopped at a secluded beach and snorkeled. We saw a huge brain coral in addition to numerous tropical fish and other species of coral. When we got to Tenacatita--an idylic fishing village--we were treated to some of the best seafood and atmosphere I've experienced in Mexico. Afterward, we headed into the mangrove. This was the highlight of the trip. We found ourselves inside the mangrove completely covered by a green canopy--magical. As we made our way through the mangrove began to open up more and we saw many species of birds, especially herons--green, tri-colored, great blue, little blue, yellow-crowned night, and snowy and great egrets. When we arrived back at the vehicle after doing a complete loop we were tired and satisfied. Dave treated us to some beers in Las Piratas restaurant as we reflected on the amazing day. I highly recommend this trip to those who want to truly experience the natural beauty of the ocean and learn about its natural history. Dave was very knowledgeable on the fish and birds of the area and gave us a great overview of coral reef and mangrove ecosystems. In addition, he provided superb instruction and equipment. He was able to accommodate our personal needs as well--he put both our kids in a double with him so that my wife and I could paddle singles. The best part--our kids, who are under 5, went free! He takes kids 12 and under for half-price. I always felt in good hands with Dave and didn't ever have to worry about safety. You can get hold of him by phone in La Manzanilla at (315) 351-5341, or by e-mail: dave@immersionadventures.com. Check out his webpage: www.immersionadventures.com, or book a trip through his U.S. office: (307) 382-4979.

Is it true that Club Maeva's Boom Boom disco is only open 2 or 3 nights per week? We were looking forward to this and don't want to be limited in our fun...

Vive la difference!

Oh, I feel so bad for you. You totally won't have a good time. There are so many little kids, every family had at least 3 children, you couldn't have picked less of a party place.

Not neccessarily, just the luck of the draw really - last March 10-17, the Ontario spring break, there were 3 seperate high school groups at Maeva ; I have also been there during Sept and April, and there was a real variety of all ages, teens included. The disco always seemed busy, since it was also open to the public, and I'm sure the Maeva Amigos{animation and activities staff] will do their best to entertain you. Think positive!

Hi, Just returned, and the boom boom was only open on Tues, thurs, and Saturdays. On the other nights, there is the tropical hut open until 2 am for the whole family (with a bar) , which is fun also. Jim

Jet skiis are available right from the Maeva beach. Not sure what the rate is ??

Next year we are considering either Huatulco or Manzanillo for a trip. This year we were in Zihuatanejo and the previous year in Puerto Vallarta. Not knowing of too much information about Manzanillo or Huatulco, the more info we can get the better. We travel with another couple. We like our nightlife, the beach, horseback rides, and side trips along with good local restaurants, etc. Any and all information would be appreciated. Thanks.

just returned on the 23 of Feb. Like above I rate the resort a 3 star at best --but that is not bad for money and mexico. Our first night we were put in a room that had not been cleaned from previous guests and the toilet was leaking on the floor. We complained and were given the chance to check out rooms until we found a suitable one-- which we did. It was tough to find one with good air conditioning. The rooms are spartan but you do not spend that much time in them. The grounds are well kept, the pool and poolside are very clean. All the people who work there are very helpful and friendly, although not being part of a tour group we did not get alot of up front info at check-in. Only noticed 3 cats. We made comments several times about the lack of insects. The beach was nice. The food-----------buffet----------breakfast was very good-----------lunch was good---------dinners SUCK--plan on eating out to the exception of Fiesta Night. We did not eat at Alfredos but were told it was --good. We had our 15 year old teenage daughter with us and she had a blast. Would we go back-------possibly as a family thing again. Chose a villa in the 200 to 300 and you should get a decent one. Number 252 is very nice. No problems of theft or pilfering. ( my deal is I leave like a dollar bill or such on the floor when we go out for the day and see if it is still there on our return. This is a good test for any hotel to check what type of persons are taking care of your room.) Manzanillo was very nice and we will definitely go back again.

We are all booked at club Maeva April 2nd for two weeks and I've already started a packing list!! I like to be prepared!! Just wondering if I should bring some sand toys for my 3 kids or not. I don't want to worry about having to go shopping as soon as we get there.(don't ever leak that out to my husband, that I don't want to shop!!). Is there anything that I need to bring, that might be hard to find? Thanks

Plenty avaliable right across the street at miramar . Bring good sunscrean.

Im going in June and wondering had anyone been there lately? What was it like?? Is there internet access from the rooms?? Any answers would be appreciated. Thanks

Where in the world is Karmina Palace? Never Heard of it! Share your information-ok?

Yes, there's plenty of places to find beach toys and cheap enough to just leave them behind so you don't have to pack them up. What are the ages of your kids and how well can they swim? We found swimming to be wonderful for kids at Tenacatita and Cuastecomate beaches but Melaque is of more concern for little ones. We have a swimsuit for the two year old that is one-piece with a built in tube around the waist. He just bobs like a little cork!

Hi there. Karmina is beautiful!! My husband and I just returned from there on Feb 12th after a 2 week stay. We were married at Karmina on Feb 2nd. If anyone is looking for a stress free wedding, I'd highly recommend this!! Anne-Marie, the wedding coordinator was amazing! A group of 28 of us in total stayed at Karmina and everyone had a great time! The service was excellent. There were only 2 or 3 employees that I didn't care for and who seemed to be unhappy to be at work. Otherwise everyone was great and very friendly. The entertainment staff are awesome! The grounds are beautiful!! You can exchange money/travellers cheques right at the front desk and there's a bank machine right there as well. If you have children, they'll have a good time also. There's a kids club (they call it miniclub) that keeps the kids busy with activities and even includes them in one of the nightly entertainment shows. In terms of food, I found it to be very good considering it's mostly buffet, although overall, the food is heavier and more oily than we're used to. But, there's lots of fresh fruit and salads available if you want something lighter. The Carioca restaurant servers are very attentive and pleasant, but it can be difficult to get a reservation. My suggestion is to book with your tour group prepresentative if you will have one, or ask the concierge to assist you. There is a very lovely and romantic table for 2 there that is to die for! Especially at sunset! At 11:00 pm the restaurant turns into a disco. Our group shut down the bar every night for the first week! It's a blast! If you enjoy having a few beverages, ask if Jesus is bartending and hang out by his bar (usually next to the deep pool where they have pool volleyball and aquasize, etc.). He's a great guy and provides excellent service (we found that if you give a little tip at the start of the day, the service is much better and drinks are a little stronger). During the day, we played beach volleyball, water volleyball, went kyaking, played bocce ball, went snorkeling, rented the banana boat for half an hour or so, etc. As well, just next to Karmina, there's a great beach with some good waves if you like to get thrown around in the ocean. Some of the locals hang out there, but they're very friendly. There's a good amount to do if you like to be a little more active. You asked about Internet access - there is access, but you have to go into town or the Commercial (about a 10 minute walk or 5 by cab) and purchase an access card. There is access at the hotel, but you need the card. Access is not available in the rooms though to my knowledge. Overall, Karmina is fabulous - our experiences were wonderful and I would absolutely go back again in a heartbeat! Was there anything I didn't like?? Not that I can think of. A couple of suggestions: I'm not sure if the level of service is as good during the off season when you'll be there - I've heard that it's not, but can't say for sure. If you do go, and want to get out of the resort at any point, I would highly recommend going for dinner at La Recif (beautiful restaurant sitting on the side of a cliff and overlooking the ocean - great at sunset! Have to book through concierge at hotel), and the Colima Bay Cafe (very cool place, a little more Americanized in feel, great food, and great service - also turns into a bar at night). In terms of shopping, the Commercial is a great little mall. If you want to bargain, you can go to the Santiago market (Saturdays only) or to the Miramar beach market (daily), the goods are the same at either place. I would also recommend renting a vehicle and taking a drive out to Barre de Navidad. The driving experience is interesting on it's own, and Barre is a great litte town and great shopping there as well. I hope others enjoy it as much as we did!! Chelsea

Am looking for a room or apartment or something, reasonable for all summer starting mid March? Any ideas on prices, places etc would be greatly appreciated. locajudy@yahoo.com

Maeva is very nice... Alfredo's is good. The food does get boring after a while. Take a cab to Colima Bay Cafe or L Recfie. Anyway this scorpian thing is a big issue with the decsion! I saw nothing out of the usual at maeva. The weirdest thing i saw were this weird sea creatures we caught... The children in the area outside maeva are very inviting just bring something Pokemon and they will swarm you. If you want to be really kind buy some cards for some kids. They dont have any down there. Your kids and you might want to learn Spanish a bit before going espically if you plan to order from the pizza place across the road. We manged to get some pizza but it was hard. Don't play punchbuggy if you dont want to get hurt.

Alright being an aviation expert I can help. It seems some of you are confused what your status of travel is with Canada 3000. The bad news as we all know is Canada 3000 is gone. The only optians out of Calgary are Air Transat & Alaska. If you booked a flight after this bankruptcy with a tour company such as Signature or Sunquest you might want to check with them as to if your trip is a go. You also might want to check with the travel agent you booked with. As for Maeva It's a great place so let's hope this bankruptcy doesn't afect Manzanillo in a big way. Matthew

Alright being an aviation expert I can help. It seems some of you are confused what your status of travel is with Canada 3000. The bad news as we all know is Canada 3000 is gone. The only optians out of Calgary are Air Transat & Alaska. If you booked a flight after this bankruptcy with a tour company such as Signature or Sunquest you might want to check with them as to if your trip is a go. You also might want to check with the travel agent you booked with. As for Maeva It's a great place so let's hope this bankruptcy doesn't afect Manzanillo in a big way. Matthew

Alright being an aviation expert I can help. It seems some of you are confused what your status of travel is with Canada 3000. The bad news as we all know is Canada 3000 is gone. The only optians out of Calgary are Air Transat & Alaska. If you booked a flight after this bankruptcy with a tour company such as Signature or Sunquest you might want to check with them as to if your trip is a go. You also might want to check with the travel agent you booked with. As for Maeva It's a great place so let's hope this bankruptcy doesn't afect Manzanillo in a big way. Matthew

Well i hope this gets to you in time. Actually to make matters interesting not only do I know when a recent earthquake was I was actually in it. It took place in either Feb/Mar 2000. It was a small one not enough to cause damage to the resort. Downtown Manzanillo was reported to have a few broken windows. My goodness it was enough to scare me!!! Loud rumbling, i couldn't feel the ground shake. Might as well give you all a rundown. I was watching the sports demo in the pool. I got really thirsty and went into the Blue Seagull to get some drinks. My parents were back at the villa (they had already seen it). I then was going to leave and then all of a sudden I hear this rumbling. This staff comes flying by me. My drink spilled and i thought oh yeah cause the guy went flying by. The rumbling though? So I exited the Blue Seagull. When I came out there were all these people hugging each other I was like oooookay. So i asked someone if they knew what happened. They said yes it was an earthquake and that I should go back to the room. Needless to say I took their advice and my Dad thought of the same idea and he met me near the bridge. I remember think Oh my God i was in a earthquake. Needless to say it was the talk of Maeva the next day. Matthew

Sorry, but here's some more questions?? Someone posted that there is nothing within walking distance of the Maeva, but on the other hand someone told me there's a pizza place across the street and that I could also get sand toys across the street. I'm just wondering what's correct? Can kids go horseback riding or is there an age limit? Never gone all inclusive and was wondering if you can take any drinks and snacks you want back to your room? The restaurants that you need reservations at, is there a limited number of times you can eat at them per stay? Thanks again, Shelley

Where are the best places to go at night in Manzanillo? We will be staying at Club Maeva, and want to go out and have fun at night!! What clubs/bars are the most fun? Also, is it safe to take taxi's? I've heard a lot of bad things about taxis in Mexico... Thanks.

Also, I forgot to ask... is it easy to get taxi's from Maeva? If there isn't much out there... Do they have a cab service provider? Thanks

Yes it is easy to get cabs at maeva they are located at the main office where you check in. I don't know of nightspots as we stayed at the resort at night. Had lots of fun at the tropical hut and boom boom disco at Maeva.

Shelley, I'm not much for all-inclusive resorts, but anyway Maeva is right across the street from miramar beach. There is an open air curio market that you walk thru (about 30 yards long) to get to the beach, plenty of sand toys and trinkets. There are several cafes on the beach that serve lunches. Horse back riding avaliable on the beach, but it is not much and I doubt there is an age limit, I took my 5 year old once. Many other restaraunts up on the strip and taxis or buses avaliable across the street. E-mail me is you have any questions. Sid

just returned from 4th visit to Maeva, 3 different markets on beach ( 2 on one side of the beach club 1 to the other side). Horseback riding is offered at the resort(costs extra, not sure about age limit). There is a dominoes outlet for pizza (extra$$)in the little supermarket on resort grounds you can take to your room. You can take drinks back to the room, never took any food though ( you can buy snacks at the store). Taxis and tours available at the front desk of hotel ( most of the tour groups there offer a wide variety). There really is a lot to keep everyone busy, kids club( heard good reports from others), sports, beach is good for kids as well. e-mail with questions. Have fun

I agree, lots of beach toys right at the beach markets, and you can leave them behind. ( they even use the floating toys in the pool ) Make sure your sunscreen is strong enough for the kiddies, gets pretty hot and the UV rating is usually high to the extreme level.

lots to do and see in Manzanillo, I have heard that Huatulco is really nice, but not much around the area?? From Manzanillio there are plenty of side trips - Barre Navidad, Melaque, Colima just for a few, lots of good local restaurants, golfing etc.

we just returned from our 4th visit in Feb. We have noticed the service has gone down a bit from previous trips, but still nice and good for the money. Never heard of the scorpion thing, but you will be in the tropics. Bees only around empty pop and drink cups ( never saw them at the adult pool), and only a couple of cats. Food does get a bit repetative, Alfredo's is good. Lots for the kids to do. Our room was fine, kept clean and nothing stolen. Heard a couple had some jewerly stolen, but if you leave things out (at even the exclusive resorts) you are taking a chance.When going for sun, beach and swimming, why travel with expensive jewelry? Never have had a problem with getting sick ( after 10 years of going there), nothing ever stolen from our room, always had a good time.

Hello, We had a one week stay at Maeva-Feb 26-Mar 5. Our first time doing the all inclusive and our first time to Mexico. Expect a long wait at the airport in the heat to get through customs. As the other msgs said, the rooms are very spartan. Don't expect much. At least our air conditioning worked well. We both got pretty sick with food poisoning-though the doctor at the club told us "you are the only sick ones, it can't be the food". However, she did prescribe an antibiotic that I went to the supermarket to get. By the time I got back to the shop with the pesos, the meds had sold. Yup, guess we were the only ones sick?! Later heard that others were sick. Breakfast is the only meal worth it. We went without kids, but the kids there sure looked like they were having fun. The pool area is the best I've been to in a long time-very large pool area and no bugs when we were there. Awesome weather but we won't be returning to Maeva or recommending it to family/friends.

My husband golfed this pst Feb at Club Santiago, just 9 holes but really enjoyed. Says it is a very nice course. Others have played at Las Hadas and have just raved. Play early in the day though !

Hi there. Just came back from Karmina Palace in Feb. and did visit Maeva as well. Cabs are really easy to get and are always available. Ask how many pesos before you get in though. There were a couple of instances where we didn't ask and once we arrived where we were going, the driver wanted a crazy amount of $$. They're generally very reasonable though, but they do drive very fast! A couple of spots that I would reccommend are Colima Bay Cafe - the food is awesome and the service is fantastic! It turns into a great night club at 11:00 I believe. Anyways, it's reall a neat, more Americanized, restaurant and bar. As well, if you're looking for a night out but not necessarily the bar scene, I'd highly recomment La Recif. It's a beautiful restaurant set on a cliff. You'll have to make a reservation through the hotel though as it's on private condo property. It's well worth it - amazing view and great food! Although we never actually went, I heard from a few others that Vog is a good bar as well as the Tikki loung. Not sure though. Have a great time!

I'm looking to talk to anyone that was staying at Club Maeva from February 19th-26th that might have pictures of some of the Boom Boom Discos and the Tropical Hut, because my camera died out! Thanks a bunch!

I have some of the Tropical Hut ( the pics from the Boom Boom are too dark) I might be able to lighten. I can e-mail to them if you like they are in .jpg format How was your trip? We were there from Feb 21 to Feb 28 ( our 4th visit to Maeva)

Just got back on Saturday and spent 10 glorious days in the quaint village of La Manzanilla at Villa Montaña'st adventure outpost. A great view, location! The beach was very user friendly, we enjoyed long walks along the undeveloped beach to the north and mixed it up with the locals. Ate at Martine's, Apache's, Palapa Joe's and El Boca's. Went out on a fishing trip with a local and caught several durado's and had them cooked right at El Boca's beach palapa restaurant as soon as we jumped off the panga. It was great!

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Hola Amigos, Here is a short report on our stay at Club Meava. There were 23 of us, mainly from Southern Ontario. Arrived at Maeva March 8 and departed March 15. Varing ages, teens to retired. We went down for a wedding. Arrival at noon and orientation was fine. Though some of us were unable to enter our rooms because of spraying. We had to wait until 4 PM. No problem, put our bags in someone else's room and got into bathing suit. Got room, 2 bedroom villa. Tho it was up in the 632, not bad. Just send the kids up there when you need something....LOL. The view made up for the extra walk. Could see over Santiago Bay. Basic room. Double bed in upper room, two single in lower bedroom, and setee can be slept on. My 17 5ft10in son slept on setee for three of the seven nights. Kitchen with table and chairs. Absolutley no kitchen stuff. Then again who needs to eat in. I heard one couple had a coffee maker, this would have been nice. If you have any walking problems, like my mother-in-law, request a level 100-200 room. Food at this resort like other resorts I have been at, tends to be repetative. Two resturants, and one a la carte. Food was good, my daughter (14) tends to be picky and stuck to mostly hot dogs. Entertainment was great. Something every night, including 2 dinner shows. Good old fashion ribs one night..yummy. Daily entertainment was sports related and done very nicely by the entertainment and sports group. Though I would tend to watch closely the alchohol if you have teenagers. They really didn't care if you had red or white band. My daughter won a bottle of tequila playing bingo. I know my kids and this was fine. Two discos, one for family and one (Boom Boom-open only Tues, Thus, Sat) was "adult" only. Well of course there were underagers in the club, but not my problem. My kids weren't (ages 14 & 17). Security did catch one kid and take him to his parents. He apparently got a hold of an "adult" band from someone leaving. This kid was bragging about it. Stupid thing was he was 12-13 years old and looked it. Cats: this place IS NOT over-run by cats. I saw three cats, and naturally they were near the resturant scavageing for food because people were feeding them. The staff was excellent and very helpful when asked. Rooms were cleaned everyday, very effiecent. We left a tip once for the maid. One day when I was in the room, the maid was cleaning. She came to me and gave me a 20 peso coin I had dropped on the bed. Honest. All in all it is a very good resort. I would recommend this resort to anybody with teens. They seem to enjoy it tremendously. My wife and two kids took some of the tours offered. We did the snorkelling, (my son and I also did some diving), shopping to Manzannillo, Tropical tour (excellent) and the horse back riding, also very good. Also like to comment on for anyone who dives. We used Neptune Divers, very good, very professional. They took very good care of us, it was my son's and I first "warm" water diving. We have only dived Great Lakes before. That's all...I will be posting pics on my web site. Will post link when ready .

We are going to Manzanillo wk of 3-23-02 would like to go deepsea fishing can anyone give me any referals or what i might expect to catch and what the fees are thanks ,

We are looking to rent a 1BR apartment or studio in Colima, Colima for one week sometime this summer. Can anyone recommend anything? Thanks for your help!

Most all the charters are located in the same place, several blocks off the main square in downtown Manzanillo. Charge is around $200 US per boat for a 5 hour trip depending on size of boat. We went in Feb and had 7 people on the boat. Captain was Tello, cant remember the name of the boat. Most fish for sailfish, and dorado and also catch bonito. Marlin are not usually caught on 5 hr trip. You might check with Scott on who he fished with recently. Scroll down the page to his post on La posada. Email me if you have any questions.

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I heard the rate is approx: 450 pesos per half hour, little expensive.

Colima City's newspaper, El Diario has a want-ad section. Apartments are listed for rent there. Your best bet to obtain a short-term rental like you describe might be to place an ad in the paper. It's available on-line. wendy

I HOPE THEIR'S A TON OF HIGH SCHOOL/COLLEGE GROUPS COMING TO MAEVA. ME AND 17 OF MY BUDDIES ARE COMING TO MAEVA FROM MARCH 26 TO APRIL 2 TO PARTY FOR A WEEK STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to party it up at Club Maeva!!!!!!!!Only 5 more days.

That's awesome! Are you gonna be at Club Maeva Party Boy? It is gonna be so fun... I can't wait to party for a week! 6 days until we get there, we'll be htere Friday March 29 til the next Friday...

I'm looking for a small farm area of 30 hect. Sincerely Gras

Here is a few pictures that I took around Club Meava. http://wragg.servebeer.com/ClubMeava/

Are there any good surf spots and places to live cheap on the beach?

Went on 2-2 tank trips with Neptune Divers. Paid $65 US per trip. Did wall dive and piller diver. It was good. But keep in mind this was my first "warm" water diving. Excellent dive shop, good dive masters. They are getting their own 32 foot boat in March, 2002 which will be much better than using the boats we used at the marina. I thought these were a little cramped. There was 5 divers and 2 dive masters on our second set of dives. The first set was just me, my son and dive instructor. Nice personel service.

we are arriving in Manzanillo on April 20 for one week. I was wondering whether they have any outdoor markets where we can shop and what days they are open.

Hi Annie,Yes there is a great market evey Saturday in the town of Santigo you can"t miss it starts about 9 or 10 am be sure to go early as it gets very hot . They block the streets off and they have fruit and veggies clothes silver,, shoes,pottery and kitchen stuff lots of things . The town of Santigo has a great pottery shop as well and a market near by that has allot of different things as well everyday. the Commerical is there as well its like a large grocey store with clothes and everything you will need also in the same compex there is a mall great stores. You won"t find it hard to spend your money. Be sure to make it to the market on the saturday its really neat . After that cross the street and have lunch at Juanitos very good and very reasonable its a safe place to eat been in business for many years great hamburgers good luck and enjoy your trip its a great place

We left Manzanillo the afternoon of Saturday March 2,that morning the police were prohibiting the market people from setting up,conflict with the village shops.That may have been resolved by now.However the everday market in Santiago can supply all your needs for fresh fruits & veg and anything else.There is now a new Shopping complex called the Sorianna past the commercial.As well in the city of Manzanillo they have a nice new large everyday Market which is worth a visit for the colour alone.Enjoy!

I have a bunch of pesos from a previous Mexico trip a few years back, but I don't remember what they are worth US, can anybody please refresh my memory. Example a $10 pesos? Thanks

Your example is close enough if your pesos are less than 8-10 years old ... more or less - after the big deval

I am considering going in May to the Colima area and camping on the beaches north or south of Manzanillo. Advice? Is it safe? Is camping even allowed? Any advice on what to bring? Which beaches are better for camping... north or south of Manzanillo? Thanks!

Were you able to drive all the way to the top? Or did you hike the last part? Do you know if folks like me who won't have a car can get a tour to close to the top? Thanks!

The current exchange rate is 1 Peso = .1127 US$ so your $10 pesos is worth 1.12 US$

We were at that market on March 8th. they were open and there was few police there, we didn't know why the police were watching the market.

We are leaving on this thursday - do you have any discount tickets left??

Hi, there, Can someone tell me whether the Club Maeva two bedroom villas are all on one level within the villa ? Some comments seem to suggest the second bedrooms are more of a loft style, up narrow windy stairs. Is this true in all cases ? The rooms look sort of uncomfortable in the few pictures we've seen. Are they ? Also, can you hear the disco at night from all the rooms in the resort and if not, which rooms are the quietest to request ? Some comments have said the food is repetitive; what kind of variety is there ? Does the resort provide bottled water for drinking ? What's the scoop on the kids club for ages 2 to 9 ? I have read very mixed reviews, but few details about the negative comments and why they were made. thanks a lot for any help ! Sandy

Can anyone shed any light on the two bedroom villas at Club Maeva ? Are they on two levels within the villa in all cases (some comments reference the need to go up windy stairs like a loft in some of the two bedroom villas). Also, can you hear the disco at night from all the rooms ? If not, which areas/ levels are the ones to request, or to avoid in order to have the quietest rooms. Are the rooms comfortable (some of the pictures and comments make them look quite outdated). Did anyone use the kids clubs for ages 2 to 9 ? Any specific comments (the reviews I have read are mixed, but little explanation for negative comments (ie. no details about why they didn't like them). Is the resort better for little kids or for teenagers ? Does the resort provide bottled water ? many thanks for any help or input !

Hi Sandy, Where do you live? I am in Chatham, Ontario. I see you are sympatico.ca. Yes the two bedroom villas are mutli-levels. Enter from door to hall, main bedroom straight ahead (two twin beds), bath on left. Narrow dozen steps to loft bedroom with full bath off of it (double bed). Off main hall down 4 steps to left living area containing two sleepable sitting areas. Also kitchen table to the right and off that small kitchen with fridge. (which ours contain nothing in the way of glass etc) We were in the 600 range (up 44 steps and up slight hill) which was a long way from the discos. There is not many villas even close to the discos. The villas are stucco style with "very" thick walls, at least 12 inch brick/cement. We could not hear anything from the outside. Very quiet buildings. The rooms are comfortable. Kinda of "bare" because of no pics on the walls or nothing. The beds "frames" are made right into the floor from the tile with a matress on it. I had no problem sleeping on them. The Resort sells bottled water, but they suggest you buy your first bottle then just take the bottle to any of the bar/resturant and they will fill them with their filtered water for free. Kids club, never used it my kids are way too old for that. I wish I had video capture on my puter,. I videoed the room, I would create a computer video of the room. You can see the sitting are at my web site. My 17 year old 5ft11in son slept in the sitting area with no problem. He slpit his time between that and the loft with his 14 year old sister. Bill

I was there for my honeymoon in march 2001. I stayed in one of the hotel rooms. It was okay. Definatly had a mexican feel with all the cement :) We were in the 700 level, and i think one time we counted 225 stairs. (we were on the very far side too). But the view was well worth it in my mind. I could see the ocean and the whole bay, plus the grounds of the hotel. It was spectacular! We couldn't hear too much from the main areas with the restaruant, pool, and discos. And if we did hear anything it was only outside. Usually all we could hear was the ocean.Very romantic. Of course it you are bringing kids, i would not recommend being that high up. The 500 level would be my choice with kids. There are some stairs, but not many, and its right by the kids club, and far from the disco. The food was fairly repetitive, but i found there was enough selection, that we never got bored of it. We ate tonnes while we were there, and it seemed like we practically lived in the restaurants sometimes :) There food isn't the same as in Canada, but they try pretty hard to please everyone. The Mexican theme night was my favorite! I found the food was sooooo good, and i got to try some new stuff. We went to the a la carte restaurant, but in all honesty was not that impressed with it. There was nothing wrong with it, it was just wasn't fantastic. As far as bottled water, i know they sell it, but i'm sure it costs more than beer would! I used the water in the rooms to brush my teeth and take medication. I only had one trip to the washroom that wasn't so pleasant.... But i think it had to do with the fact that i ate TONNES of fresh fruit, and my body certainly wasn't used to it. I don't know anything about the kids club, cause we didn't bring the kids, but it looked like fun. And it seemed the security was really good. I would trust my kids there alone. I have alot more info if you are interested. Feel free to email me with any ?'s you might have. Manzanillo is a stunning place, and i would definatly return. I'm not sure if i'd go back the Club Maeva, simply because i want to try new things.

Sandy See the thread "Club Meava Pics". I answered you there. Bill

Thank you ever so much, that is really very helpful (both Bill and Lisa) (We are in Toronto, by the way, in answer to your question).

We spent a week there in Feb/02 our 4th visit in 8 years.We did not have any kids with us, but spoke with some that used the kids club and they had nothing but good things to say. We never heard the disco, always stayed in the one bedroom villas in the lower 600 range. There seems to be always something to do, and Mazanillo is great. We are returning next year, probably not to Maeva, somewhere else for a change, but certainly in the area.I usually had bottled water from the little supermarket, but have also drank the tap water. Never really had any problems. Those little problems are usually from too much fruit and too much alcohol! It is not a Hilton or anything, but certainly we found it to be the most relaxing and friendliest spots around. We enjoy the fact of never having to get all dressed up for dinner or anything, can relax all day, everyone is very friendly and the staff go out of their way to make your stay as comfortable as possible.

I live in Manzanillo, but I love to camp, especially if my neighbors get too noisy. The most tranquil spot I've found is at the north end of La Boquita, near the lagoon, where the mouth of the river meets the ocean. There is a restaurant there, Marildo's, which will even keep your valuables if you want to go into town, or on some excursion. I have known the family for 12 years, and it would be nice, if you are asking them a favor, to at least buy lunch or drinks at the restaurant from time to time. The Las Brisas area is also very quiet and safe. The difference between the two is that La Boquita needs a taxi to get to (about 20 pesos from the main road), and Las Brisas is on the bus route. Miramar can be crowded and you can only camp on the other side of the road from the beach. Manzanillo has been judged one of the safest cities in all of Mexico. If you'd like more info about the beaches, go to www.gomanzanillo.com

Assuming your 10 pesos is a coin. 10 peso bills are extinct.

Ocean Pacific Adventures, owned by Sam and Marilyn Short, Texans who have been here for many years, have two boats and do a great job. For more info go to www.gomanzanillo.com/fishing/index.htm

Ocean Pacific Adventures, owned by Sam and Marilyn Short, Texans who have been here for many years, have two boats and do a great job. For more info go to www.gomanzanillo.com/fishing/index.htm

We are interested in renting a villa on Miramar Beach near Club Maeva. Is someone able to provide us with telephone numbers of property owners or agents. Having stayed at Maeva several times, we enjoyed the walks on the long beach. Thank you, Walt

I recently returned from Club Maeva and was very disappointed with my trip. I have stayed in Mexico before and have never witnessed a room that was so dirty. I slept under an air vent that had so much dust build-up that it would fall on me while I slept. The maids did a poor job cleaning and there were days we were given no towels for the bathroom. The bathroom smelled and was full of mildew. Many of the chairs at the pool were broken, so you have to wake up early if you want a decent place to sit. The waiters at the various restaurants were wonderful. They were very friendly and worked very hard. The same food was served every single day, with usually the same things offered at lunch as at dinner. The discos at the resort were a lot of fun - which was good because there was not a whole lot to do outside of the resort. I talked to many people from the US and Canada who said they would never come back to Club Maeva. I also talked to other US and Canadian people at different hotels in Manzanillo who said that they would never come back. If you plan on staying at this place, make sure you keep an eye on you stuff. My watch was stolen from my room and other people had items stolen. My advice for anyone planning on vacationing in Mexico - stay away from Manzanillo.

I have a 3 bedroom condo for rent on Santiago Bay, the only villas I can think of on Miramar would be in Club Santiago. I have the name and e mail address of a rental agent in Club Santiago. Please e mail me for details. Margaret

I just came back from CLub Maeva with 17 of my buddies and we had a blast. THis is one of the best places i've been. Everyone at the resort was great, If you see Carlos and Jerry (entertainers at the resort) tell them the Canadian Party Boys sent you.

we're going to be in Manzanillo the end of April and thought using email to write home would be convenient, provided there are internet cafes in Manzanillo. Can anyone tell me if there are any and what they charge?

I just got back from Club Maeva on Friday and I had such a good time!! My best friend and I went for our senior spring break trip, and we had so much fun! It wasn't the nicest resort I've ever been to, but it was totally fun. The pools were all really nice, and the games at the main pool were cool. Tequila volleyball was the best! The food was ok at the restaurants, it was really really good at Alfredo's. The shows were ok sometimes, other times they were just bad. The rooms were big enough for me, my friend, and all of our clothes.. the showers were just too short for me to wash my hair in, I had to practically sit down to wash it every day! The Boom Boom Disco and the Tropical Hut were both awesome though, we had a lot of fun with those. Part of the reason that our trip was so much fun was the people that we met. The first night we met 17 guys and they were all really cool. If they wouldn't have been there I don't think the trip would have been half as fun as it was. The staff was always really nice, and we also met a few other girls and guys that were fun to hang out with too. The contests at night in the Tropical Hut and the Boom Boom were fun sometimes, I won bottles of wine in the Ladies Arm Wrestling and in the Sexiest Legs competition! Just watch your drinks - if a guy orders it for you it will be normal, but when girls order drinks they make them wayyy stronger! Me and my friend went to Maeva to have fun and just party all week so that's what we did. It was a really good time and I would definitely go back... I wish I was there right now!... Lauren

You guys wouldn't happen to know anything about a missing Corona sign would you? Maybe Cody could help you out..........

There is an internet cafe at Las Hadas bay (about a 15 minute drive from Club Maeva). The cost is 60 pesos for an hour or 30 pesos for 15 minutes. The shop had two computers and the lady was very helpful. We also went snorkeling from Las Hadas bay and went on a sunset cruise from there.

There are several internet cafes. Juanito's restaurant has internet, fax and phone. There is also a cafe run by the orphanage, I believe the charge is by donation. It is close to Manolo's Restaurant just before the Commercial. There is also one in the Commercial Plaza. There are at least a couple more. I believe the charges vary considerably but it is still a lot cheaper than telephoning!!

Tough break on the vacation. We were there Feb.1 for a week and were quite happy. The rooms are dated and we had to move from a very musty one to a drier one. I really appreciated the two bedrooms and how quiet the rooms were. Sure beat the typical hotel room scenario. Food was not bad and we all survived pretty well. Having kids the slide rides were great and I really enjoyed the beach and surf. I dont know how much you paid, but for the four of us I thought it was great deal! Better luck next time. brad

I noticed that Hotel Las Hadas was featured in the movie "10" starring Bo Derek, Dudley Moore and Brian Dennehy. Would like some feedback as to the accommodations as they exist today.

We just returned from Manzanillo and stayed at the Chateau Manzanillo, a 5 bdrm, 5 bath villa on the hillside overlooking Santiago Bay. It was an incredible vacation, the food was fabulous, the beach was fun, the waves were big...I would recommend it to anyone. You can check out the website at www.chateaumanzanillo.com. It is even more spectacular than the pictures show. Any questions feel free to email me.

Hi there, Thanks for providing such a detailed review of this resort. Overall the positives seem to outweigh the negatives - We were wondering if we needed to take along our own snorkel gear or is it provided? We realize there are tours available, however we were hoping that there was a place nearby that you can hike or swim to at your leisure ? Also, did you and your family make use of the bicycles that the resort says is inclusive and if so are they in reasonable shape and repair......our trip is planned for early May and our 3 kids are 9, 11 & 15.....thanks, we appreciate any advice you can provide for us......

Check out the Huatulco site, here on tomzap. It has better swimming, scuba, most natural beauty. Try one place this year and do the other next and let us know what you think.

Just got back on Tuesday from two weeks at Maeva, we'd never go back. We were there with 3 kids 9,7, & 5. If anyone had questions e-mail me. When I find time I will post a trip report.

is it true they hit on young girls? i have heard they are overly friendly with girls? i have a daughter and was wondering if i should be cautious?

It may appear that way but I believe it is more likely the other way. The teenage girls seem to be doing more of the flirting with them. My brother-in-law talked to someone at the Club, and they have a rule, they get caught "messing" around with the guests and they are gone, no recourse. The teenagers have a very good time there and it is probably becuase of the entertainment staff. Yes I would lay some rules down with your daughter but go easy and have a good time. Enjoy it is a fun place for all. Bill

Why keep your trip teport secret. Post it here.

Shelley when you have time please post a report I look forward to hearing it. We need to hear the good reports and the reports with problems as both have there place on this board.

Where to start... Arrival- We have learned never to go to Mexico on a Mexican holiday!! We were told there was over 2000 people at the restort for the first 5 days we were there and after the holiday there was just over 200. Nothing against Mexican's but it was packed with them and they must get up at 5:00 a.m. to save seats because we couldn't get a chair at the beach(unless we wanted to pay $14 to use other ones) or by the pool, it really sucked!! One thing we noticed though, all the restaurants were open and there was more food to choose from when there was that many people, after everyone left only one restaurant would be open a day. Rooms- Our room in the 500's, stunk really bad and had a lot of bugs, even after we had them spray it. We also had a dead possum outside our door for a few days until we told them it was going to start stinking if they didn't get rid of it. The room next to our's had a dead cockroach outside it, but we didn't see any live ones. After a few days of the bugs we had them move us to the 200's. Way better, no bugs and the maid was good, the maid at the 500's was awful. We met a lot of families here and I don't know if there was one that hadn't gotten moved for certain reasons. One family in the 700's said the had a scorpion in there bed, so after that we were checking every night. A family we met caught the maid stealing money in there room, the guy wanted the hotel to fire the maid and call the cops, not sure what happened in the end. Another family had bathingsuits stolen off there ground floor balcony. Once we were moved, we were happy with the room and they have a lot of room in them, I would not recommend them for small kids because of the narrow winding staircase. Food- This was the worst part... Everyday it was the same things and for my picky kids it wasn't very good because everything is put in a sauce that doesn't look to appetizing. Snacks- they didn't exist. You could snack on the lunch food that's been sitting out for hours and that was about it. Drinks all day for the kids, yeh if there not scared of bees, the pop dispensers are swarming with bees. Alfredo's wasn't bad, it was the only place you could get strawberry drinks, besides the disco's, all the other bars give you grenadine for strawberry. You could also get good desserts at Alfredo's, we had no problem getting in here it wasn't busy and we met people who were eating here every night. From previous posts we thought we'd find seafood at the beach restaurant, if you call some tiny fish cooked whole seafood then that's all we saw. A fellow we met that was here on his third year in a row, said this was the first year the food was terrible, he said he's not coming back again. On the first day we also met a guy who told us he had been to the doctor to get hooked up to intervenise treatment because he had been so sick with food poisioning. One of the worker's had told a lady we met that the cooks were grating cheese that had gone way past the molding stage and putting over most of the food. Kids Club- Very disappointing, My 3 kids tried it a few times and hated it, and the honest truth, every kid they made friends with had tried it and hated it that they wouldn't go back. I think they were left to find something to do a lot of the time, also one day my daughter said they watched three movies, we weren't on holidays to sit and watch movies. Pools- Very large, kids loved it but there is no shallow end, so I would reccomend bringing blow up toys or lifejacket. There is a kids wadding pool, but is small, good for really young kids. The water slides were good, there is two waterslides and two that go almost straight down. Shows- We thought they weren't to bad, some not to family orientated. They had afew times were they gave out bottles of tequila as prizes to adults and kids, thought they could at least give kids something else. The guy we met that was on his third year coming here, said the previous years shows were awesome compared to now. Disco's- We didn't go to the boom-boom disco, but we did go to the Tropical hut a few times. This was a family disco and they had contests for different things there, the only thing is they don't start anything till 11:00 p.m. and that's pretty late for kids. They also give out bottles of booze to adults & kids for prizes. Sport's- We didn't do any of these, but we were told by a family with teenagers that it was almost better for the sports when the resort was full, because alot of the time there wasn't enough people to play stuff. Beach- This is a fair walk, next holiday will be right on the beach. Very dirty water with huge waves, we likes the waves, but I made my kids wear life jackets, not very good for really small kids. For how many people are at the resort they have about 5 boogie boards to use or else you have to go down the beach and pay. We tried the banana boat, very dissappointing, 30 pesos each, and it lasted about 5 minutes and was pretty slow. There are LOTS of Vendors at the beach. There was also 3 different places within walking distance to shop. Horseback riding- We did this, my kids did it twice, costs were $30 for kids and depending on how long you go for it was 2hrs-$60 1 1/2-$40 and 1hr-$30. The kids enjoyed it, but there is nothing to see and you go on the beach for maybe 5 minutes. Staff- Very nice, but twice when I went to the front desk to see if I could get extra pillows, they all said the didn't speak English. Store- They do carry quite a bit of stuff, but very expensive!! Bring lots of suntan lotion because we had to buy it at the store for $27.00 a bottle, also bring your own magazines, they are $11.00. Ice cream, chocolate bars, chips were all about $2.00 each. There is Dominoes pizza at the store, which we tried once and it wasn't too bad, I think it was $16.00 for a medium pizza. We did go to the flea Market and were dissappointed, things were more expensive than in Canada. We did take the bus to Barra de Navidad, nice place, the Blue Bay Club is close to here, I think I would have liked to have tried this hotel instead, it is secluded, but your secluded at Maeva also. We all had a spell of a few days on the toilet during our stay. There are cats on the property, and my daughter ended up getting pin worm that the doctor figured came from the cats, so I would recommend not letting your kids pet these cats. We wanted to go to some restaurant that we had at least heard of before and there were none. All in all, we would NEVER go back here and all the people we met while there said the same thing. I will also be telling my travel agent not to recommend this place for families. I think it is probably a great place for 18-25 year olds.

Sounds like you it the resort at a very bad time. When we were down there during March break (8th) we had heard that the place is over run my the locals during easter. Too bad. It is atypical of resorts/hotel to charge enourmous prices for sundry items. I guess you pay for convienence. I have yet to be at an all-inclusive that will supply snacks. The tropical hut starts after the shows. We quite enjoyed the 2 hours of horse back riding. We purchased it as part of a package including the Barre de Navidad trip.

We're leaving for Manzanillo on Friday May 3rd. It's nice to hear some positive things about the Club Maeva resort. I was starting to get a little worried with all the negitive info people have been leaving. I know that people just want to alert others to potential problems but it gets a little un-nerving at times. We will be there on a timeshare exchange. I've been told that if you ask for your kitchen to be equiped with all the items required for cooking and dining they will do this. Since we will be doing the all-inclusive strictly on a day to day basis when we want we should be able to be comfortable. At least I hope so. Anymore feedback for me? Anyone real recent guests? How large is the table on the deck of the 2 bedroom villas? Thanks for your input. Donna

The entertainment staff was really friendly... we talked with them and danced with them and they were really nice but it was no problem... They let a bunch of us (girls and guys) come party with them in their room one night. It was fun... they hit on my friend and I a little bit but it wasn't offensive or anything like that. It was just a fun time, and the staff made it even more fun!

I was at Club Maeva from April 10th thru April 16, and my experience was nothing like Shelley's. My wife and I are 47 years old with no kids. Our villa was in the 100s and was very comfortable and clean. We tipped the maid every day and got excellent service. Swimming pool was immaculate. As clean as any I have ever seen. The ocean in front of the resort was clean, there was sand in the surf which could be construed as being dirty but it is just the gold sand being kicked up in the surf. It wasn't dirty. The food was adequate and plentiful. As were the drinks. I enjoyed the place and would go back.

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I'm looking for a condo rental in the Santiago/Olas Altas? area of Manzanillo for 10 days in Jan 2003. Margaret - is yours available? Anybody satyed at Casablanca Alamar? thanks for any help.

I'm looking for a condo rental in the Santiago/Olas Altas? area of Manzanillo for 10 days in Jan 2003. Margaret - is yours available? Anybody satyed at Casablanca Alamar? thanks for any help.

Has anyone been to Las Hadas Resort recently? If so, I would like some feedback on how nice and how fun the resort is. C'mon, somebody had to have been there? I'm planning on taking my wife, mistress, my six year old son, and my two whippets. Comments?

Margaret - will your condo be available next Jan 13-24, 2003? please reply to my email John

How "warm" was the water?

what was the weather like in early feb.? planning a trip there next year and wonder what air and ocean temps are in late jan. John

We have been there 4 times in last 8 yrs. and yes, things are not the same, some worse some better. We have always made the best of any vacation. When going to Mexico, do not compare to Canada or the US, it is a different country and completely different way of life. As far as bugs, you are in the tropics, we never had the problem in the lower 600 range, but again I have seen unsightly bugs at 5 star hotels in Canada and US! Our worst case of food poisoning happened in Chicago when my husband was hospitalized for 3 days a number of years ago.When ready to travel look into and get as much info on a resort before going there, some resorts are not for everyone. While we are not returning to Maeva next year ( trying a new location for change) we will go back at some time.

Will ther be availability 1/13/03-1/24/03? thanks John

Hello John, I am in sunny Manzanillo at this moment!! The condo I rent out is not available but I have access to a couple of others in the same building, would you like me to check for you? I will be home on the 20th but might be able to do something for you before then. I am going to Guadalajara on Monday so will check back with you wed. Margaret

Yes, please check on the other condos for me. What is the Casablanca Alamar like? thanks John

Have recently caught some news & pics of a volcano letting off in Colima! How is it progressing? Accompaning quakes? How strong? Damage ? Heard something like 10 mile exclusion zone around. Great fireworks to watch at night from hotel room? My sincerest sympathies to my Mexican brothers & sisters who will be undergoing great hardship from the displacement and losses of homes,crops,jobs and hard won goods. Chin up,though! Kilawaea (SP?) in Hawaii is a tremendous tourist draw! :-}

Shelly, truly too much!! I would like to reccomend the Presidente in Ixtapa for your next trip. Go for high in the Tower for best A/C operation. Presidente is quite family (kids) oriented, more so than my other Rec. of the Barcelo. Both in the Maeva range price wise. Pres. has snacks available day & night 'til 2AM. :-}

I drove up to the top the neighboring Montana Nevado last year. It was a long serpetine drive but worth the effort. I could look down at Vulcan de Colima.

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Greetings: Does anyone know if the CM in Manzanilo has a good wine selection? Do they have south american, Californian, French, or Italian wines? Does anyone know how the wine prices would compare with wine prices in the states? Thank you, Tom

Hi , I have just returned from Manzanillo. The Commercial does have wine but I find it always a challenge to find something worth drinking! This last time I bought a French Merlot which was quite all right. They have California, French, Chilean and I think Spanish wines. The prices are comparable to Canadian so I am sure they are the same for American. I was paying 50-60 pesos for the French Merlot, which is quite cheap. The wines range from 40-200 pesos. I did not check the wine at the Soriana but someone told me they had a good selection. Good Luck, Margaret

Thanks ever so much for posting the link!! Just what I needed!

We returned from Manzanillo to questions from everyone we knew about our vacation. After months of looking forward to going and enjoying another wonderful week in friendly Mexico we arrived at Club Maeva. I was a little concerned about the resort because of several things I had read on this site. I had attempted to email the resort on several occations during the weeks prior to our arrival with questions regarding our "timeshare exchange". No response. When we went to check in the desk staff was rude and any question at all, no matter how nicely asked, was regarded as either insulting or demanding. No ocean view for us! Just a room right on top of the large pool and dining areas. The kitchen we were promised held a rusting refridgerator and microwave. Everything else was in poor condition or dirty. The plumbing in one of the bathrooms was not working and the whole unit smelled badly. Upon asking to speak to the manager to possibly get another room we were again treated poorly and told the manager would be available in 30 minutes. A "senior" desk clerk while speaking to my fiance mentioned that if he wanted he could win a war of bad words with him. No profanity was ever uttered on our part. We don't know why such a thing was said. The only thing we can think of was that almost every encounter they had with guests coming to the desk was over a problem. Several people were angry and demanded to have their "wrist id's" cut off and checked out. Most of these problems were with Mexican guests. Very few if any American or Canadian guests were at the resort during this time we would later find out. I guess "our" season was over according to the resort. After waiting a hour for the manager to return we were told he had just returned back from a soccor game (during prime check-in time) and did we still want to speak to him. We said yes and tried our best to be friendly and sincere. He was aloof, rude and gave his best impression of someone that did not care if we stayed at his resort or not. He was at best civil and barely that. After trying to explain that we would like a quieter location away from the pool, resturants and bars. And that the items we were expected to use in the kitchen were less than safe if not un-sanitary. He told us to come back tomorrow. They were expecting alot of check-outs & maybe, just maybe they could find something for us. It was so bad that afternoon we went searching for another resort that we could swich our timeshare exchange to. Other resorts were friendly and helpful even if not able to fulfill our request. We felt welcome every where else we went in Manzanillo, but not a our own resort! The next day after 3:00pm the "senior" desk clerk (a little nicer that day) gave us a selection of several units for us to choose from. We found one a little further away from the pool, still with no view and told him we would move there. After the move I returned the old keys and thanked him. While returning from the reception area I ran into the resort manager. I went over to him and explained that we had been moved and that room was quieter and was about to thank him when he became very rude and stated "What's the difference all the rooms are the same!" I was about to explain again about the condition of the plumbing, kitchen appliances, smell and location but decided not to bother. I turned and walked away feeling more unwelcome than ever! The rest of the "resort experience" is too long to go into. I'll just hit the high points: Very poor air conditioning. Windows rivited shut so you can't even get some breeze at nite. Second floor rooms a sauna because of that! Maid service ok because I think we tipped everyday. Adult pool very quiet and nice. Better bathroom than we had in our unit. Food not great. We ate out most of the week. Hard to purchase drinks or food with out the all inclusive option as you have to go and buy coupons or something from the Front Desk, and we weren't going to go through that again!!! Walk to the beach not too bad but longer than 5 minutes. Stairway to beach dirty with what the drunks left there the night before. Beach was fun. Vendors not pushy but quite a few of them. Fresh mango/cucumber w/lime & salt was wonderful!! We had people playing gutars & singing at 3:ooam next door. When we finally realized that they weren't going to stop we called security. What a joke!! We were told others had complained but that it was for Mother's Day. Like that made it all ok. I've traveled all my life in Mexico & I have never had such a terrible trip. My trips in the past have been great! Resorts if not top of the line at least clean and always friendly!! Never will I recommend this resort and in fact I have reported them to RCI (the timeshare exchange company) and explained everything that we encountered. And I've taken the time to advise you. Donna

Hola! It looks like I will be driving down from Canada to Manzanillo in late July or early Aug for an extended stay (at least 6 months). I will have my dog with me and request info from others who have done the same. I am also making my packing list and want to know, is there anything you found you really wish you would have brought with you? Household items..etc...I won't have lots of room in the car but I want to be sure I have what I need. I am a single woman travelling so any safety suggestions other than the obvious? How about requirements for bringing my car into the country? Basically, I am asking for any suggestions that others have had the experience of to make my travels as easy as possible. Also, it's possible once on the road I could share the ride (and gas) with another traveller if we met up somewhere. I have to get my dates set first! Just mail me... Thanks, roja

Looking to do both for a few days each if I can keep up my interest. Want to see the downtown area and do a little beach time as well. Should be in the off season before December so hotels in the $20-30 US range. Ultimately shopping for places to spend 1/2 the year (or more) in a few years. Tips on body boarding, windsailing or surfing beaches would be a plus. Tx

I will be in barra navidad in july and need some info about where to snorkel-any suggestions would be appreciated.

Tenacatita Beach to the point at Moro beach, 20 miles north of Barra at the Tenacatita turnoff. Head straight into the village, go right at the beach and to the end of the road. Best snorkeling on Tenacatita Bay. Can't think of any good place to snorkel on Barra bay due to shore breaks??

Try Playa Olas Altas, they had a tournament there in May. There are other beachbreaks north and south of town. Contact Luis Lopez: Surf guide can be found at Manolo's Campestre Restaurant in Salagua across from Plaza Manzanillo. Tel. (3) 333-0475 and 333-1740

Thanks for that warning report! In 40 years of vacationing & travelling in Mexico, I can't say I 've ever come across uncaring staff to quite that degree! All I can recall re: Club Maeva{s} is that several years back, a Club Maeva one the East Coast around the Yucatan ( Carmen?) sent 180 Canadian Vacationers to hospital with E.Coli poisoning from contamination in the hotel's ...either drinking water or pool water. recall thinking " after a hurricane some manure probably got washed into the water supply". I believe several people died and the rest were evacuated. I decided I'd never trust a Maeva especially after all they would do was offer credit against a future trip to a Maeva!!! Do you know what Maeva was called previously at that location (Manzanillo)?

PS to my above post: While staying a Blue Bay (Angels) I got E. Coli poisoning from an under-cooked Hamburger served at the pool snack bar! Didn't notice that it was pinky-red til I went for my second bite! Luckily since I was taking a strong, new antibiotic already and by double dosing as soon as I saw the meat, I avoided a Hospital stay and only lost 2 days of the trip. Note ...recent medical discovery...to survive E.Coli H157 , if it had time to get going, you must have several COMPLETE blood transfusions with the new blood being infused with approp. anti-biotic as it's actually a cascading effect from already produced toxins that shut down the liver & other organs. :-{

As a frequent traveller to Mexico over the past ten years I am now coming up to retirement early next year. Of all the places I have visited I have not been to ,Manzanillo,P.V. the nearest,after reading so much about the place I would like to spend my retirement there. I shall be having a look around on 5th to 8th September,and would appreciate if you would mail me with properties for sale beween $80,000-$100,000. At present my wife is a little unsure about my intentions and she suggest we rent first fot six months and if she feels she can "settle" into it's way of life,we would then purchase. Would you please send any information on Houses/Condos you have around that price mark,and should they be appealing,we could meet up in September. Many Thanks, Regards, Leslie Trout/

We're planning our 1st month long vacation and have pretty well decided on La Manzanillo. Does anyone have any comments about our selection? Is it safe? Is there anything in particular that we should be aware of? Any comments would be appreciated. We are going in either Jan or Feb of 2003. Can hardly wait!!!

Also, what about sharks? Are there any around there? da da dada dadada lol b.

whats crakin im 15 years old i recomend yo to go to manzanillo i gone 5 times there it is very nice but the thing is that hotels are kind of expensive but there very very nice you know and the beaches are clean and another place you should visit in mexico is cabo sanlucas

na you go there and they tell you that is one of the few places in the wrols with no sharks

Are you going to "Manzanillo" or "La Manzanilla".....two totally different places. Manzanillo is a major seaport city and very spread out and highly commercialized. La Manzanilla is a sleepy beach village with little to do but swim, sun, eat, and drink (then after breakfast.....) How many in your group? Kids? Will you have your car ? Have you booked accomodations yet? What budget range (econo, mid, luxury) are you working with? Do you have a bit of Spanish? With a bit more info, many posters can give you some assistance for your trip. You may even elect to check out all the local beach destinations (Manzanillo. Barra de Navidad, Melaque etc.) with a few days or more at your favorite one.

Get a mechanic you really trust to check out your car: excellent tires, cooling system, brakes,hoses, belts (spare!), new transmision fluid and filter etc. Take basic tools and know how to use them (and hope your never going to try!): mini air compressor, tire guage, extra oil and filters, good spare tire. Get your mechanic to show you how to check fluids, tire pressures and how to run the jack and install the spare. Gas is not much of a problem in most of Mexico now...just keep your tank at least 1/2 full if you can. Not a good idea to carry spare gas..scarry! Carry a 'Koolatron' fridge in your car for cool snacks and get the AC adapter for use in hotel rooms or your destination. Take BIG jar of peanut butter (expensive in Mexico!) We found a small toaster-oven to be real handy when we got there (yeah Mike, I know your out there!) Get good flea protection for your pooch and a real short haircut (cool) Pack a can of 'Raid'....handy for less than perfect hotel rooms... Don't go nuts on health insurance. Pay if you need medical services (VISA) and collect from BC health on return (keep reciepts) Leave most of your clothes at home....buy low cost stuff in Mexico. Have a good credit card (VISA), but use it only for emergencies...lots of card scams rampant in Mexico. ATM's work great with debit cards, but take out lots at each withdrawl, since Canadian banks take a chunk for each transaction. Relax, have fun, enjoy the nice Mexican people your going to meet. Adios

Told me the same thing in Ixtapa! Despite diving alot there never saw on in the wild...but the fishermen seemed to be able offload alot of them for restraunts! If there's an ocean, there's sharks !! Over fishing probably gets them before they can stake out a favorite local. Just don't start bleeding in the water! (which I did!} :-}

Haven't stayed there, just visited. Maybe...maybe your whippets will survive walking up & down the steep hill to and from the water but you'll be carrying your 6 year old after the 1st 1/2 of the first trip up the hill!! Probably always up hill after that if he's a fast learner!LOL You may have to carry the dogs too since they'll learn even faster, if I know the breed! :-}

It is La Manzanillo that we are going to. We r planning on staying at Palapa Joes for a month. Would like to go fishing, snorkelling sighseeing, the usual touristy stuff. How far is it to Barra de Navidad and Melaque? Does anyone know what time buses start and stop going to those towns? Or how much to expect for a cab from either or from Manzanillo? Also, is there any ATMs in La Manzanillo? We dont have a car, maybe we'll rent one. We're not sure. We might just bus it everywhere. We dont have very much spanish but have a good dictionary!!

You are going to La Manzanilla ... and here is the link. You better get it right before you hop in a taxi. have a great time in La Manzanilla

Anyone have information on the website www.manzanilloholiday.com?? THey offer homes for rent. Any info on the club santiago location and what they offer??

Should have added this to my last topic...... Anyone have a good contact for a wedding consultant in Manzanillo or have good advice on beach/balcony/restaurant location for a wedding???

Hello all! My family and I will be traveling to Colima June of '03. We are interested in non-tourist type areas for the beach. Any suggestions? My husband is from Michoacan and we plan to visit there also. We only have 7 days, can we go to the beaches and Michoacan in this time frame?

Hi SM, My family is interested in La Manzanillo, your description of it fits our style perfectly. We are in the mid price range, but prefer to be in the non-tourist areas. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

La Manzanilla, Mexico info at: www.mexicomexico.info

Try mexicomexico.info

Michoacan is a large state and Colima state is small. Very easy to get to certain parts of Michoacan. Hyway 120 is direct to Morelia but I've not done it or know the buses. It looks like 5-6 hours on the map. Check back in December 'cause plan to do that if I have time. Where in Michoacan were you going to go. BTW ... look at the Melaque/Barra section of this board. Very mexican and no "all inclusives".

Also try mexicomexico.info

Lived in Colima for 9 years. Email me & let me know what & where u want to go & I;ll help u out. I have family down there also, so if U need help while your down there they can help you

We stayed at the Hotel Marbella right on the beach. Good restaurant. $36 US for the two of us.

Hi Teresa. My husband and I were married at Karmina Palace on February 2nd. Wonderful location, great service, and our wedding coordinator, Anne-Marie McAlpine, was fantastic. We had the best time of our lives - what a blast!! We had our pre-wedding dinner at a restaurant called L'Recif. It's absolutely gorgeous, very romantic, amazing view, and good food/service. It would be a lovely setting for a wedding. We booked through Anne-Marie and it's on private property so I believe you have to go through a concierge to book - not 100% sure on that. Otherwise, you might try Expomanzanillo for assistance with your planning. There's some info on them through the gomanzanillo.com website (this is a great site with a ton of info on it, including restaurants, other links, etc.). Click on the Traveling to Manzanillo section and scroll through - there's a link. I've also included the e-mail address below. They do weddings as well as tours and such. expozlo@prodigy.net.mx The other place you have to go to, just for fun is the Colima Bay Cafe - it's a great spot and a lot of fun. Good food!! I hope you have a wonderful time, and a great wedding!! Chelsea

Sharks like deep, deep water-you'll rarely see a Shark close to shore. Those Tiburones you see being unloaded were caught 90 miles and even more from shore. In all my fishing trips to Mexico only once did I see a dangerous Shark-Hammerhead-closer than 30 miles from the Beach-Barra de Navidad early 90's.

That place is a notorious dump-as mentioned here many times.

I have been going to La Manzanilla for many years and just love the bay. There are plenty of fish to catch, great boogie boarding and snorkeling. Probably one of the most beautiful bays in Mexico if not the world!

We were in La Manzanilla last fall. We loved the snorkeling over at Tenacatita. Also we took a boat and snorkeled at the mouth of the Vena River across from the Blue Bay resort. Lots of fish and the water was just right!

Have you thought of posting to the Barra/Melaque section? (much closer to La ManzanillA than Manzanillo is :)

Check out www.immersionadventures.com for kayaking and snorkeling trips based out of La Manzanilla.

Can someone please help me find a way to connect with English Language Schools in Manzanillo or Colima. I am certified but cannot find any on the internet. I will be arrivng in Mexico soon. I am driving down from Canada with my dog and sure could use some advance help. If anyone can direct me please help. Thanks... Susanna

There is only one place north of Manzanillo where you can see sleeping nurse sharks. Unfortunately, it is a very difficult dive, as the caves they sleep in at night are close to shore and the area has very high waves. We would love to have more areas that have sharks available for viewing, but unfortunately, sharks are rapidly becomming an endangered species. In September, you can see turtles, though. They will be coming up on our beaches to lay eggs. They are also protected.

We have a new article on www.gomanzanillo.com which talks about budget accommodations, and inexpensive restaurants. Check it out.

On the opening page of www.gomanzanillo.com we have listed numerous hotels and restaurants that are offering value for your money. There's also some good tips on shopping and a discount coupon page. When you visit Manzanillo, don't forget about the little places. They are charming, the service is great, and they really care about you.

Underworld Scuba, a PADI Dive Center, is hosting the first International Beach Clean-up Day in Manzanillo, Sept. 21, 2002. All divers are welcome to participate, and help us make Manzanillo a place that tourists will want to return to again and again. There will be a Fiesta on the beach after the dive. Contact Underworld Scuba: scuba@gomanzanillo.com

What is the average ocean water temp during the month of dec. do i need to bringing my wetsuit. and how are things at boca de pascules at tecoman , my last pacific wave was riden there 5 years ago, is there water and electicity yet any hotels and does any one know if casa de omar is still there. thanks

Hi out there, anyone with any experience or knowledge on getting a sailboat out to Manzanillo by rail??? thanks for a quickl reply.

Will be in Manzanillo for 10 days in Jan. 03. I'v heard that nude sunbathing is allowable at Playa De Oro. Any information on this. Or, where in the area is is OK to go nude.

Wow! There's ambition writ LARGE!! Sorry, no info, suspect it's never been done(could be wrong)! Given all the possible vagarities, probably the sensible bet is rail to Corpus Christi, Texas (or the abouts) and then sail via the Canal. The canal fees can't be so high as to discourge you as opposed to hearing: Oh, senor, you boat was last seen approaching the top of a mountain 250 miles souuth of here and since then Nada! Perhaps mananna?! :-}

Better yet pehaps to San Diego, Calif. & then sail south. save the canal fees! Under that senario be sure to launch same day you arrive as Cal. tourist rental for one night likely more than Panama Canal fees! :-}

We are looking for any info on this resort, how is there all-inculsive program? What is the best room location to request.

I don't think small vessels are being allowed through the canal these days. Instead, they are trucked overland; I gather a business at the Canal offers this service. Ro, try to contact a guy named Ed Grossman in San Carlos; get his contact information through the "Cruise the Sea of Cortez" website. http://www.trailersailor.com/forums/cortez/ (My apologies if you have already tried this.) My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that he has a very good reputation for arrangements for shipping of boats from San Carlos BCS to the States. Through him you might be able to determine if either of the following is an option for you: 1. Use a company which he recommends to ship from San Diego to Manzanillo. He might know good brokers, which would be very important to you. 2. Use his resources, ship the boat to San Carlos, and have a great cruise from San Carlos down Baja, across to Mazatlan, through Nuevo Vallarta and Puerto Vallarta, and then to Manzanillo. I know you're hoping to ship the boat all the way... but that cruise would be so much fun I had to mention it. Some years ago a man I knew shipped his boat up to San Diego from a Mexican port, maybe Mazatlan. The boat made the trip fine, but the owner was a little upset at the way it was treated. I think that issues of security in transport of such a valuable item might be a decisive consideration. I'd hate to see my own little boat go on a long railway trip through Mexico without me. Please let us know what you decide to do. Good luck.

On Ed Grossman: Dial 011-52 (622) 226-1230 for Marina San Carlos, and ask for Ed Grossman's number. (Info from another board.)

Has anyone been to boca de pascules just outside of tecoman colima, I was wondering if it has recieved water and electricity yet or any hotels and how does the surf break with a northen swell . on that note what are the best breaks in mexico for the winter swells thanks

Any information about flying into Guadalajara and taking the fairly new highway to Manzanillo? Taxi from the airport - - ? How long of a ride - - ? How about taking a bus - - ? Any information would help, as I've never been to the Manzanillo area.

Flying into Guadalajara and going to Manzanillo on the fairly new highway. Questions - - Easy to find a taxi at the airport to take me - ? Cost - ? How about taking a bus - ? road in a good condition, I could rent a car I suppose. Any information would help my plans better.

Ken, I'am from a small town about 65 miles away from Manzanillo. I have flown into Guadalajara and it takes about 2-1/2 hours to my home so, from Guadalajara to Manzanillo it would take approximately 3-1/2 hours on a taxi. The taxi drivers would want to charge you 250.00 dollars to Mazanillo. On the other hand if you take the bus it would take you 4-1/2 hours and you pay around 20.00 dollars. The thing to consider is flying to the Manzanillo airport. The airport is not in the city of Manzanillo its about 1 hour away.

I was at Boca De Pascuales this past december 2001 the water temperature is warm their I don't think you need a wetsuit. While I was their I met some white people from California they mentioned they were stay in the place right next to the restaurant. So, if this is Omar's casa your talking about its still there.

I am from Colima by the time you read this email. You are probably already in Colima. If can help you from let me know. Portland Oregon, Jose

Might try this "surf board" for those questions

Might try this "surf board" for those questions

Might try this "surf board" for those questions

We (2 families, each with 2 teenagers) are planning on traveling to Manzanillo in December but haven't picked a place to stay. We've been in Puerto Escondido, Huatulco, and any number of places in Mexico so are used to standard conditions. We'd like to stay somewhere fairly nice. Suggestions? Rentals vs. hotels? The comments make the Maeva sound horrendous. Should we skip Manzanillo and look elsewhere? Much thanks.

www.maps-of-mexico.com

Try La Manzanilla: www.lamanzanillamexico.info

I flew into Guadalajara, took a taxi to the bus station about 15-20 ride depending on traffic and then took the ETN bus to Manzanillo about a 4 hr bus ride. The bus is a first class bus with A/C, TV, and they give you a sandwich and a drink for 230 pesos. !! I might have a bus schedule, will check. Let me know if you want it.

Has anyone stayed at the Hotel San Felipe in Melaque? Or at least seen the place and its rooms? Plan on staying there in January 2003 for 11 days, unless anyone has any other suggestions for beachfront lodging with kitchen facilities. La Paloma is fully booked.

E-mail addy, hceballo@ucnet.com.mx rejected. Has anyone had success getting in touch by e-mail?

Hi, The email address I have shows as hceballos@ucol.net.mx,haven't used it so can't confirm,

Dear Ken: You are better of renting a car and driving to Manzanillo yourself. The Road is Great, it is a new road. You should be fine. I would advise to to travel during the day, so that you can enjoy the view. I was there in July and I will be there again next week to purchase property in Colima, You will drive thugh Colima on your way to Manzanillo. Cabbing it will be too expensive.

hotelceballos@ucol.mx tel: 312-44-44 fx: 312-06-45

DO NOT SKIP MANZANILLO!! This is a beautiful place with very nice people! We did not stay at Club Maeva but did meet some people who did and most of these comments seem to be correct. There are so so many other great places to stay in Manzanillo. We have been there several times and have rented condo's each time. They are amazingly affordable! If you are looking for an all inclusive try the Sierra it is right on the beach and we toured the comples and were impressed by the cleanliness of it. There is also Karmina Palace but we did not visit this place. Do an internet search for manzanillo and many options will come up. This is one of the best places in Mexico we have visited and go back often.. many beaches to explore!

Our family visited Manzanillo in April and I can't wait to return. We took our parents who are in their 70's and there were 6 brothers/sisters and our spouses. We opted for our own private villa and found it to be comparable to a luxury hotel as far as price, but much, much nicer. We felt like we were living lifestyles of the Rich and Famous for a week. Our villa had 7 bedrooms and 8 bathrooms, our own pool and hottub and a staff. Now the staff was the icing on the cake. They answered our questions, played tour guide, chauffeur and cooked and cleaned for us. When we caught sailfish, they cleaned them and prepared two wonderful meals with the meat. They knew which beaches were the best, which tourist areas to avoid and all the other pertinent information which comes from living in an entire for a lifetime. As our villa was quite large, we found many others which would accomodate a smaller group and plan to look into those for future trips with just us and our children. Manzanillo is the best of Mexico without all the tourists. The beaches were practically empty and the people the friendliest. P.S. We went to Club Meava for the Mexican Festival. I would not recommend this hotel for a couple reasons. It sits across the road from the beach and had too many screaming kids. When our villa rental ended, 6 in our group moved to Hotel Sierra and it is wonderful. It, too has too many screaming kids but a beach area that makes up for it. Playa Audencia beach is the most beautiful and private in the entire area.

Certain weather maps lead me to believe that there is a storm fairly near Manzanillo, growing in strength, with waves up to twelve feet. Anyone got any news on this?

If true...........SURF'S UP!!!!! :=}

try buying canadian dollars. the pesos is worth a lot more than canadian. Hahaha

I recently stayed at an all-inclusive resort for the first time in the Mayan Riviera and hated it. The food was terrible, the entertainment was annoying and the place was far too secluded. I would have loved to have stayed in Playa del Carmen at a smaller, more local place. Any suggestions for Manzanillo? What's the best spot to stay for nightlife, decent beach, budget accomadtions?

I recently stayed at an all-inclusive resort for the first time in the Mayan Riviera and hated it. The food was terrible, the entertainment was annoying and the place was far too secluded. I would have loved to have stayed in Playa del Carmen at a smaller, more local place. Any suggestions for Manzanillo? What's the best spot to stay for nightlife, decent beach, budget accomadtions?

Eleman, can you give me some information on renting a car at the airport Guadalajara, that I can rent oneway, to get to Manzanillo. That might be better than taking the bus.

I agree, don't skip Manzanillo. We stayed at the Sierra Manzanillo about a year and a half ago. It's a very nice hotel, right on the beach, kind of Meditteranean in style, located in it's own little Bay, perfect for snorkeling or Kayaking which is included in the Price. In Manzanillo you get a true taste of Mexico as it's not a huge tourist area! There is quite a few people from Mexico actually staying at the Sierra, which I found to be great!! The people are friendly and seem a lot better off than people in Mazatlan or Puerto Vallarta. The downtown area is a little ways away but worth a trip down there. Snorkeling tour was pretty good, same as the Colima tour. Food at the Hotel was quite good in the buffet & the a la carte restaurant was fantastic. Nightlife is there if you want it. Carlos & Charlies is within walking distance, Colima Bay Cafe is a cool place & we also went to some other nightclub (I can't remeber it's name, I think it was VOG) but is was quite good. The buffet restaurant & disco are both open air and looking out into the picturesqe bay, really nice. All in all Manzanillo was a fantastic Holiday, maybe not as visually stunning as some other places, as it is the biggest Port in Mexico, but well worth a visit!! Truly Mexico!!

Sorry, Lisa! Wouldn't venture myself (not knowledgeable enough) but I'm suprised at the lack of response from others. Perhaps you scared them off by not liking A/I? You sound like the kind who would like Zihuatanejo, more like local Playa del Carmen. Ixtapa for more upscale Hotel row feel with Zihua just 10 mins away by cab or 1/2 hr. by local bus. Enjoy! :-}

Hurricane Hernan, winds of 85 to 100 knots, well off the coast, as of Tuesday.

Well brad, I can tell you I did not see anyone that looked half as good a bo Derik but the place is nice.. I have heard of rooms as low as 30.00 per day up into 300.00 maybe more. The resturaunt is good but a bit spendy for mexico. Your posting is old so incase you dont check it I wont go into to many details. Let me know if you want ot hear more... Julie

Beautiful. Clean pools, great view, nice food and chance to cook your own.

I have been there several times and think Tenacatita is great. I have heard it is top 10 in the world.. WHo knows

Top 10 in the world .... come on!!! The food in the palapas is good tho.

Hi Lisa, We stayed at the Sierra Manzanillo about 1-1/2 years ago. It's the only hotel Located on a very very picturesque bay, good for kayaking & snorkeling. The Hotel itself is about a 4 Star, it is medditerranean in style, quite nice pool, swim-up bar. The Buffet restaurant, & one of the a la carte restaurants (Also the Disco) are open air, the food in the buffet was quite good & the Mexican a la carte restaurant was great. The entertainment staff was great, they took us out on the town a couple of nights to a disco called VOG the Colima Bay Cafe & Carlos & Charlies. The shows at the Hotel were OK, nothing great. We were there in middle of November, so the nightlife was a little quite. The Disco at the Hotel was very quite, but we met a few other people and had a great time anyway. The town of Manzanillo is a ways away, but the bus is always fun in Mexico!!! You are a bit secluded in Manzanillo as they don't really have a Hotel Zone, and it's not a very touristy place (That's what I like about it). There are a couple of Markets close by (Taxi) and a nice Golf Course within walking distance. Beach is pretty good, but remember this is the Pacific & not the Carribean. I would recommend the Sierra for sure, however if your looking for Crazy Night Life like Cancun, this isn't the place for you.

May want to try La Manzanilla up the coast (www.mexicomexico.info) No nightlife but great beach, local kayaking outfitter and lots of secluded beach front! No AI's either!

Fishing village setting and secluded beaches: www.lamanzanillamexico.info

best night life in Manzanillo??? Contradiction in terms, perhaps. But, if you are looking for "budget" accomodations, I would venture to the Maeva resort. As far as entertainment, I don't know what to tell you. Maeva does have a Tropical Hut Bar and whats called The Boom Boom Disco, but after a couple nights of that, you're done. Perhaps you should try Las Hadas, but its pricey. Maeva is suited for the person/family that goes on a vacation to do nothing except to eat, drink, lounge and relax. Don't get me wrong though; there are plenty of water activities to be had, and tours to go on..but that is entirely up to you.. If your single and looking to troll, this isn't the place for you. I would try Cabo or Cancun for that. The price is right. I spent 9200 pesos for a family of four for 5 nights and six days. In dollars that works out to about $900.00, and that includes food and alcohol!!! Keep in mind that those prices are in the off season. Peak season there is Dec. through May. I challenge you to find a better bargain. I wish you luck in your search.

Anybody ever stay at or visit the Casablanca Alamar on Playa Ola Altas in Manzanillo/Santiago?

Anyone have any comments, suggestions or memories with the Vida Del Mar complex just north of Manzanillo? We are staying in a unit there in November and wouldn't mind some insight. We have been to Manzanillo and don't care for the all-inclusive resorts but have found condo's are cleaner, more private and often times the same cost. Not to mention we love exploring the restuarants in the hotel zone. Definately the best food ever! But would like to know more about this particular complex.

Don't know what you have seen on the Web but the GoManzanillo page is pretty good. I'll be there (Manz) in November as well for the first time. You might look around the GoManzanillo site.

Lisa, You should consider Colima, only about 1/2 hour from manzanillo, small city, 20 mins from beautiful beaches. affordable!!! I am purchasing a house, and it will soon be up for rent by the week or month.

Lisa, try Colima only about 1/2 hour from manzanillo and affordable, not to many tourist!! Great locals. I am purchasing a home there, that will soon be up for rent, by the day, week or month.

do the rents !!! you'll be happier!!!

John, I really don't know what these people are talking about re: Maeva. I was just there--ppl couldn't be nicer- place was fine. kids loved the mini club. if you're high maintenance go to las hadas. this place was perfect. good luck

Hola, I am looking for a nice budget hotel in Cuyutlan or somewhere else on a beach (maybe El Paraiso?). What we need is a larger room (we are a family of 5) and a big pool for the kids with a nice beach nearby. We plan to arrive around December 21 and depart January 3. Does anyone have any suggestions? Gracias!

Hi Joe, We were in Cuyutlan & Paraiso last Feb.They are very small towns with not much activity unless it is a Mexican holiday and then they fill up.It is quite strange,hundreds of palapas and all empty.We saw what could be budget hotels on the beach,not sure about pools.The surf is big and shallow,Paraiso was a bit better.Paraiso is smaller,there is a hotel,the pool didn't look to inviting.If this is what you like I am sure you will find something,everything is only a block off the beach.

Bay of Tenacatita: www.mexicomexico.info

My family and I just returned from the MAEVA, for the 160 dollars a night I spent there I was completely ripped off. The first sign of the big mistake was at the reception desk, 20 minutes waiting for assitance, while the lady talked on the phone. Next the room,,,,phewww, the smell of mildew was overpowering, I have been to abandoned house that smell better. The food,,,sucked. the hotel staff, except for the smiling faces of the animation crew, for the most part didnt appear that friendly, Tried to go scuba at the pool, but the instructor didn't even speak english. Later I found out from one of the animation staff,that the previous dive operation left after having been there for one year, but the hotel wanted to do their own diving so bye bye professional dive shop, hello non english speaking, non certified diving bozo. I wonder what the hotel is thinking if they are willing to sacrifice their guests safety for a few measly pesos. But hey just look at the rest of the hotel and you can see they are only worried about getting paid and not your enjoyment or safety.. Maeva....be smart...don't go. FP

My family and I just returned from the MAEVA, for the 160 dollars a night I spent there I was completely ripped off. The first sign of the big mistake was at the reception desk, 20 minutes waiting for assitance, while the lady talked on the phone. Next the room,,,,phewww, the smell of mildew was overpowering, I have been to abandoned house that smell better. The food,,,sucked. the hotel staff, except for the smiling faces of the animation crew, for the most part didnt appear that friendly, Tried to go scuba at the pool, but the instructor didn't even speak english. Later I found out from one of the animation staff,that the previous dive operation left after having been there for one year, but the hotel wanted to do their own diving so bye bye professional dive shop, hello non english speaking, non certified diving bozo. I wonder what the hotel is thinking if they are willing to sacrifice their guests safety for a few measly pesos. But hey just look at the rest of the hotel and you can see they are only worried about getting paid and not your enjoyment or safety.. Maeva....be smart...don't go. FP

Given my 4+ allergies to mold & mildew, I would only have to be in your room for less than 2 minutes to find myself on the way to hospital 20 minutes later!! Maeva on Eastern Side of Mexico ( PDC?) several years ago sent approx. 180 Canadians to hospital with E. Coli poisoning and caused the evacuation of 700 more. Again. water control problems (in that case ground water into pool or drinking water) seem to be a Maeva "Speciality"! Have they never heard of Aclarado (Chlorine Bleach)?? Not for my money or life! :-[

a group of five families went down together and stayed at maeva. we found there were plenty of activities for the childen allowing the parents to relax and enjoy their own vacation. there was a large variety in the food, everyone was quite content. and the staff, mostly the activities and entertainment, was very fun and friendly. all the kids (14- 20 yrs.) enjoyed the nightlife in the security of the resort. the only thing that wasn't up to par with other resorts i've been to was the beach. everyone had fun but it wasn't private to the resort. overall we all had a good trip and are planning another for this christmas.

Hi everyone. I've got some info on a new high speed internet service, mainly meant for small to mid sized companies who need speed. Maybe some of you work at home people might be interested as well? I, for one, am fed up with the slow and unreliable dial-up systems now in use in Mexico, like Prodigy for example. So, I thought I'd let you all know. A guy from the states does the install, etc. I posted this on some of the other tomzap sites as well, to let as many people as possible know about it. Maybe if more of us sign up, the price can come down.

I'd like to hear the details on this...as well as your experience and the pricing for current dial-up options.

Please pass along any info you get regarding clothing-optional anything in Manzanillo or nearby areas. Thanks

bitter much??? I LOVED Maeva..Staff was very accomodating and friendly-- food was good- quite a variety actually. LIghten up, loosen up-- and go with the flow.

Greetings. I'd like to hear any critiques of the Hotel La Posada in Manzanillo. I read about it years ago in a San Miguel de Allende paper. I have checked the hotel's web page. Also, would appreciate reactions to the Hotel Barra de Navidad and comments about the Sands and Delfín in Barra de Navidad. Thanks.

Ken, Sorry it took me so long to respond. Try any major car rental that is available in the states like Buget and Avis and ask about their international locations. I 've seen them in the Guadalajara airport but off hand I can't remember exactly which companies they are.

Hi Dan, I sent you more details by email. Regards, John

Ken, check out webs sites for Avis and Buget rentals , they will let you know about international service and prices.

Westayed at LaPosada a few years ago.Enjoyed it very much. It's a small hotel with nice grounds.Beachfront with calm ocean. Small nicely configured pool. All buildings were painted Pepto Bismol Pink. Really good cooked to order breakfast. Lunch is catch as catch can but excellent sandwiches served. Mangnt. is gracious and helpful. Many of the guests have been there many times. When in Manzanillo be sure to eat at Willy's the first night.You may not want to eat anywere but there during your whole stay. Stayed at the Sands in Barra on the same trip. Very inexpensive. Small rooms.Very basic. Nice pool with swim up bar. Get room on third or fourth floor. Well landscaped with attractive salon on each floor.Delfin is across the street and is a little more upscale. I would not bother to make reservations so you can check out both of them when you get there. Be sure to have breakfast at Bananas. t

Stayed at La Posada couple of seasons back. Found it a bit threadbare and pricey for what it was ($75 usd). The Sands in Barra looks and feels like it's ready to fall down. Most of its former glory has got up and left. The Delfin is very clean and basic with a neat little pool area. Have stayed there several times and it never disapoints. Last season it was 350pesos/nite. Best rooms on 3rd and 4th floors (lagoon view). Great breakfast restaurant too. Very good location, but not on the beach. Many repeat guests.

Last year we stayed at the Vida del Mar complex which is right next door to La Posada. We walked over there one morning for breakfast and to check it out but could find no one around .... it seemed clean although we didn't get to look at a room. The breakfast dining room was inviting....but no one around to cook for us... The beach here is very nice and quiet, we loved it! The beach is just a few steps from any of the rooms. This place is at the end of the hotel zone closest to downtown Manzanillo and across from the Naval Base. We could see the lights from downtown Manzanillo at night and it was quite a beautiful. You do have to go back to the hotel strip and around the lagoon to get to downtown though. If you want a peaceful place to stay right on the beach, La Posada is a good one, but you will want to rent a car or take the bus to the hotel strip and eat at all the wonderful beach front restuarants along the hotel strip.

Heard of it but need more info??

Jim, Go to the Melaque/Bara de Navidad board and ask. It is just north of there on the next big bay. A guy named Mexicodan will jump in and give you lots of info.

the new email is principal@hotelceballos.com

Try www.lamanzanillamexico.info

La Posada (bart's) is a nice place. The rooms aren't much, but you'll not spend much time in them anyway. It is a laid back place. Typical visitor is of the older variety but some young families also. Not the right place to party all night if that is what you want to do. Very laid back quiet peaceful place. Nice beach and pool area and not that hard to catch a bus or cab into town or the strip area. It depends on what you want. If you are looking to be waited on hand and foot and want all the glitz, then may not be the place for you. If you are looking for a nice place right on the beach where you can read a book and grab a beer or pop out of the kitchen and shoot the breeze with other guests then la posada is right for you.

What is the water temperature in November? Is it basically the same all year round? We are going to be diving in Manzanillo in November and I was wondering if a skin would be sufficient or if I should wear a 3mm suit? Any suggestions? What about the air temperature in the evenings....is the rainy season over in November? Thanks in advance for your comments..

Water temps at the surface should be 80 mas o menos. Rainy season ends in mid-October usually! Depends probably on how deep you will be diving. Ask the dive shop or ask at www.gomanzanillo.com Adios! www.mexicomexico.info

Couldn't disagree more with this guy - I've been there many many times with my parents and absolutely loved it!!! Its great that kids can go into the the tropical hut bar, which is open every second night, and there are games at about 11pm there. The variety of activities is great, and you can eat like an American, or you can eat like a Mexican down there - its up to you, there are many choices at the buffet - and there's always the Italian restaurant free of charge. Each night the Maeva Amigos put on several skits - whether it be comedy, broadway(Phantom, West Side Story, Cats), etc....Just don't open your windows in your room, or you're inviting the geckos in.

Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you all know that we now have an online ad that features more details on the high speed internet service. That page is: www.mexicanbusinessbrokers.com/en/satellite.html and also features a photo of an installation. Thank you, John

Was there last November, water was warm for swimming and snorkeling, a couple that were scuba diving from are hotel were using wetsuits

How's the weather, surf, wind, beaches in La Manzanilla. Can anyone report??

All is well LAM land. We were spared the brunt of the storm since the epicenter was in San Blas approx. 200 miles to the north. Received a nice rain (much needed), some wind and high surf but all is well.

I have friends camping there as I write. They report the day of rain cooled things off and freshened the air. You'll love it. Calm waters, too.

The water temperature is currently 86-87 degrees F. It is a degree or two warmer than "normal." What is normal is changing. I anticipate that November waters will be 82-84 degrees, based on the last 15 years here. Most people do not need wet suits. I use one because I dive frequently, and don't move around a lot. I also seem to get more than an hour per tank, so I tend to get a little chilled. 3 mm is the max you'd need if you're like me. Susan For more info go to: www.divemanzanillo.com

I've known the owner for 12 years. Bart and his wife Inga have made the La Posada into a laid-back kind of place. Very old-fashioned Mexican, with real atmosphere. Breakfasts are served only from 8-10. If you come later, you won't find anyone around, because the staff, most of which has been there for 30 years, has other duties, such as cleaning rooms, gardening, etc. Lunch, American style, is servied from 1-3. Once again, the shift change is at 4, and since there are only 6 employees to do everything in a 22-room hotel, they have to have time to clean up after lunch. It is peaceful, quiet, there's snorkeling and diving off the jetty, and probably the best sunsets in Manzanillo. People also enjoy watching the big freightors come and go from the harbor. The lights of Manzanillo come on at dusk, and the scene is idyllic. It is not fancy, but funky--as a 38-year-old hotel (that used to be Manzanillo's ice factory) should be. Make sure you check out all the photos on the wall and ask about them. Bart also wrote a book about his life experiences in Manzanillo. Very funny read.

As the owner or the only PADI Dive Center in Manzanillo, I have to agree that it is really dangerous to have a non-certified, non-English speaking person doing pool classes. The pool at the Maeva is certainly deep enough in which to have a dive accident without proper instruction. The other great concern to qualified scuba instructors is their practice of letting children use the equipment in the pool. Without proper instruction, at the depth of the Maeva pool, it is very easy for a child (or anyone else) to get an air embolism by breath holding and ascending. In this respect, the Maeva management treats diving as a game, not as a serious sport. However, normally, the rest of the staff is very friendly and accommodating. The food isn't bad, and the shows are pretty cute. The only other serious drawback is the beach, which is across the main highway, and there is a lot of walking to do. If you plan to spend the day at the beach, and have a couple of children, you've got a lot of stuff to carry. The other problem with the beach is that normally you can't swim there. The waves are too high and strong, and there is a backrush (some call it undertow) that claims several swimmers a year (a statistic you will only read about in the local Spanish-language newspapers). I have heard numerous complaints about the rooms. If the room you are assigned doesn't suit you, go back to the front desk and ask for another. Or, ask to see the room before you move in. Most people don't (or shouldn't) spend much time in their room anyway. Susan Dearing Underworld Scuba Padi Dive Center #20008 Phone: 333-0642

Vida is a beautiful complex about 20 minutes north of the hotel zone. There is a restaurant on the complex grounds that has a pool, and beautiful sunsets, and live music in the evenings. If you want peace and quiet with an occasional night out, you'll love it. The condo listed above is very nice. I've seen it. You might want to rent a car while you're here to see the sights. You may not always wish to pay for a taxi to get to town.

A nice complex on the beach. But remember, Olas Altas mean "high waves" and sometimes they are very high--and noisy.

I agree. Colima is a wonderful city, but if sunning on the beach is important to you, and you're taking a vacation on a budget (and don't want all-inclusives, please read this: http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/pocopesos/index.htm This article tells you where to stay, where to eat and where to shop for only "a few pesos." As for night life, Tropigala has live music and is a great meeting place. Colima Bay Cafe is where most people go at least once. Vog Disco is also very popular. You can also go to the Maeva disco without being a guest there. Pay one price and you can drink and dance all night long. Bar de Felix is where the Mexican crowd goes, but foreigners find they like it because it IS very Mexican!

For infor on Hurrican Kenna go to: http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/hurricane/index.htm

All of the comments above have value. You can check out the Karmina at www.karminapalace.com If you're looking for other places to stay or where to eat out that's off the beaten tourist path, try this web address: http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/pocopesos/index.htm

The event is over, but another is planned for December and January. To find out more about our fight against environmental terrorists, go to: http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/clean-up/index.htm Remember when you come to Manzanillo, help us "Splash for Trash." We all have a stake in the world environment. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." (Divers United to Conserve the Aquatic Environment)

For information on the damage caused by Hurricane Kenna, go to: http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/hurricane/index.htm

When you stay at Chateau Manzanillo, Vida del Mar, or Villas Bahia and Oceano, the owners offer free snorkeling and scuba diving. Other Eco-Adventures, too. Check it out. http://www.gomanzanillo.com/adventures1.htm

I found info at www.mexicomexico.info

Will be needing bus transportation from Guadalajara to Manzinillo in mid-November. Flight into Guad early afternoon. Anyone know the bus schedule of the ETN buses???

I did this search for 11/08/2002. Some dates showed NO trips. Origen Destino Tarifa M.N. Fecha Horario GUADALAJARA,JAL MANZANILLO,COLI. $235.00 11/08/2002 02:45 11/08/2002 06:00 11/08/2002 07:45 11/08/2002 08:00 11/08/2002 09:45 11/08/2002 10:00 11/08/2002 14:20 11/08/2002 15:00 11/08/2002 17:00 11/08/2002 19:00 11/08/2002 20:45

Try www.magic-bus.com Adios! mexicodan www.mexicomexico.info

Buenas Dias, My family and I will be in Manzanillo at the Sierra and we will want to explore the town. How much for bus ride or El taxi. Muchas gracias for any information.

the closest town to the Sierra would be Santiago which is about 1-2 miles away and about a $2 taxi ride. The trip to Manzanillo is more like 6-8 miles and about $10. Be sure to ask the rate before you get in the taxi.

As the owner of Neptunes the other "only" PADI dive center in Manzanillo #20460, I would have to agree with Ms. Dearing. The Maeva this year has decided to attempt to convert the popularity of SCUBA diving in to a profit. Yet, the Maeva has forgotten that SCUBA is not a sport without risk. Dive Professionals dedicate themselves to minimizing these risks. The current practice of the MAEVA is to send their clients out diving with a non certified diver. He is neither a divemaster, or instructor, but rather a former animation team member who would dive with the previous dive shop. Ms Dearing makes many good points on highlighting the dangers to young children. On that subject I am more than in agreement with her. There are two...PADI dive shops in Manzanillo. There are many operators on the beaches who will say they are instructors and or divemasters. The only way to be sure is to ask for their credentials. Fakers will give you a hundred reasons why they dont have proof of certification. Professionals will be honored you asked and proud to present their credentials. We know the people currently supplying SCUBA at the MAEVA, the SIERRA and PLAYA AUDENCIA, I caution you should you decide to use these folks. In fact, call us and we will charge whatever they do...just to insure your safety, Im sure Ms. Dearing will agree with me and offer the same deal. Jorge Sosa Neptunes Diving

We are looking at the Dolphin Cove Inn for our January vacation. Does anyone have any comments about the resort, its location, etc.?

I'm busing in from Guad in about a week and wonder if there are rental agencies in town that would be cheaper than the airport. Might want to rent for a week to see the coast and Colima. Anyone wandering around about that time want to share. Thanks

I have tried to reach Casablancalamar @ 52 314 3 0212 and have not been able to get thru,does anyone have a different number for this place or know if things have changed here.Thanks

CASABLANCA ALAMAR 334-0397

hi I Will be in Manzanillo in dec and am staying at the siera ,I heard you can get a bus right out front of hotel that will take you to town is this true is there a schdule

I will be in Manzanillo in January for the 1st. time, but with my other travels to Mexico we have always found the best deals on rentals by booking online before going. Dom

there are buses which run by the Hotel Sierra and many taxis. For a small fare, they will take you to both Santiago and downtown Manzanillo.

people go to the sierra , world of difference -and have a vacation as it should be.-----these people will go out of thir way to see you again --pay the little extra and be safe and clean here -i was here last year for two weeks and back i go come dec.6th this year--------safe clean, and a vacation-giving manzanillo a better reputation as it should have ./// thank you for those that listen -///rh

i have stayed in manzanillo a few times and am going again for two weks come dec 6th-2002---------i would highly suggest the sierra hotel to all persons that travel---clean and safe and very much tourist orientated people there , thay want you to come back -i am a developer in canada and am embarking on projects there in manzanillo region, i rent a car when there , and mingle with the people and feel the location is excellent for tourist close to market , walking or cab and pristine for the duration of your stay, im sure you;ll love it as we do , and for the money verse higher prices places near by , you;ll see no difference -food is excellent and a large choice for all there ------have fun and relax and enjoy your self at the sierra -----and no i don;t work for them , lol lol -just telling you that will listen the truth. -thank you hope you heard me -/// rod -ontario canada - rodndeb@sympatico.ca

if you need advise for your stay in manzanillo or rental car i can help you and save money--im pro manzanillo and nrth along the coast ----just a person that likes to help people enjoy their vacations when time comes ---------hell i'll be thee again come dec 6th-2002-for two weeks -love the place --------especially the sierra and knowing not to pay gringo prices for rental cars-///rod rodndeb@sympatico.ca

KERRY-----when are you going kerry , to manzanillo--------?---------its a short nice walk to the market down the side road through santiago hotel range ---great place to go sierra hotel, you'll love it ----im going with my wife come dec 6th-2002, been there a few times -- sierra hotel - good place for the money , you'll be impressed -----better .///-rod rodndeb@sympatico.ca

Hi Rod, My name is Gary and my wife and I will be spending a week in Manzanillo around the middle of January. We have exchanged into the SunClub/Sierra and are confirmed on our flight....so we're definitely cominng. We've been to Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta and Cabo several times each, but never to Manzanillo...so we know nothing about it. Would love to begin a dialogue...have tons of questions...if you're willing. First question...should we rent a car or just take local transportation to see stuff ? Also, very interested in local places to eat and possibly to fish. Thanks for any help you can give..........................Gary

Hi Rod, I am glad to hear the Sierra is still great. We stayed there a few years ago and have "ventured" elsewhere in Manzanillo and other places. I would love to return to the Sierra this year.

Hola jose; Mira yo soy de cuyutlan, vivo en san diego ca. boy y vengo seguido,te dire que en estas fechas,como tu lo as de saber, son muy codiciadas, en cuyulan, paraiso,pascuales y todas estas playas, del estado quepor lo regular, las visitamos, muchas personas,de diferentes clases sociales,desde las altas hasta las demas, principalmente cuyutlan, alverga a mucha gente de "tradicion", por que alguna vez de ninos los llebaron sus padres a cuyutlan y se les quedo grabada, la experiencia tan bonita que se vivi en cuyutlan en estas fechas, como tu sabes, existe un malecon tan grande y tan amplio(corredor),que en el dia de navidad, en muy bonito, (como nino) despertar al frente del mar, y con el juguete que el nino dios me trajo, bajar a este malecon" y disfrutar, de mi regalo de navidad, sin preocupacion de que algo me ba a pasar, asi es como se disfruta de unas buenas vacaciones en cuyutlan,lugar tranquilo, donde la gente es muy calida hamable, y respetuosa de lo ajeno.estamos hablando de la gente de cuyutlan, "no meto las manos por otra que no conosco".Se vive y se convive muy sanamente.claro hay temporadas bajas como en todos otras partes. Con su participacion y visita buscaremos de ser y darle otra vista a nuestro " bello cuyutlan". Por la parte de la reservacion, si me disculpas, por todo lo que digo antes, y no hablar de tu nececidad,llama a los hoteles de cuyutlan, que en el internet existen: solo ve a;search, despues,escribe;cuyutlan colima,has click en ir (search) y ahi encontraras los telefonos de algunos hoteles, a los cuales les puedes llamar, para poder hacer una reservacion, pero apurate por que cuyutlan es, tan popular para estas fechas que es dificil, encontrar disponivilidad,por tantisima gente que nos visita de diferentes partes; tanto de la republica, como, de aquellas partes tan lejanas que escojimos para vivir, pero que cuyutlan nos trae el recuerdo de nuestra infa-adolecencia,que no nos queremos perder esa, tradicion. Ojala, y encuentres algo que llene tus deceos, y te pases unas vacaciones de maravilla, que es lo que uno busca,la tranquilidad y el descanso. Echame un e-mail, (chuicuyutlan@hotmail.com) quizas te puede servir de algo. Hasta pronto y buen viaje.

HI,. ken, depending on what,time of the year you want to trvel, YOU'LL FIND diferent prices, end diferent services,because a lots of people are moving around, like ants all over the entaire world,on the big hollydays, we got the service for you, depending, on how many are you,traveling, our service is: Surf-travel tours,but we help any one traveling,with; Tranportation; from to aiport, ruond trip,(to airport from) in case of flying to guadalajara, we will go and pick you up to the airport,and give you a tour in "Tequila" jalisco,(5 people or more) teke you to your destination,if you deside to stay with as, you'll get a "paquege". $680.00 usd economic. INCLUDES;pick ups, from to airport. tours to surf,every day.(minimum 3 days stay)80.00 each day extra. (not responsable for the size of the waves,depends on the whether.) hotel,meals,and tranportation. Trips to surf spots, every day.(or, nigth time,as desire) paraiso, pascuales,boca de apisa.(To Ticla, or Rio Nexpa,extra.) Don't miss this. (This price is for non hollydays,on hollydays extra,the hotel are from 2 stars, to 4stars,( with pool 4stars only)some,close to the beach,beach vew. contact; san diego ca. chuy. Ov inter. surf tours. www Chuicuyutlan@hotmail.com Derechos recervados de la marca; Ov international.

hi paola , yeah, try cuyutlan very calm beach , nice hotels front,beach site. cuyutlan is located via Michoacan- Manzanillo, rigth before the toll road, to Manzanillo.

Hi jay. depending on what,time of the year you want to trvel, YOU'LL FIND diferent prices, end diferent services,because a lots of people are moving around, like ants all over the entaire world,on the big hollydays, we got the service for you, depending, on how many are you,traveling, our service is: Surf-travel tours,but we help any one traveling,with; Tranportation; from to aiport, ruond trip,(to airport from) in case of flying to guadalajara, we will go and pick you up to the airport,and give you a tour in "Tequila" jalisco,(5 people or more) teke you to your destination,if you deside to stay with as, you'll get a "paquege". $680.00 usd economic. INCLUDES;pick ups, from to airport. tours to surf,every day.(minimum 3 days stay)80.00 each day extra. (not responsable for the size of the waves,depends on the whether.) hotel,meals,and tranportation. Trips to surf spots, every day.(or, nigth time,as desire) paraiso, pascuales,boca de apisa.(To Ticla, or Rio Nexpa,extra.) Don't miss this. (This price is for non hollydays,on hollydays extra,the hotel are from 2 stars, to 4stars,( with pool 4stars only)some,close to the beach,beach vew. contact; san diego ca. chuy. Ov inter. surf tours. www Chuicuyutlan@hotmail.com Derechos recervados de la marca; Ov international.

most shark attacks happen in less than 6 ft of water

Hello,I am looking for reasonably priced accommodation,studio/apartment/bungalow in Santiago/Salahua area,does not have to be on the beach.This is for the month of February.Any help greatly appreciated!

contact --- bob ---- tell him i sent you ( rod hambleton from canada )------ www.smaltownadventuresmexico.com he'll assist asap, he's a canadian . tell him what you need and want .--///rh

contact --- bob ---- tell him i sent you ( rod hambleton from canada )------ www.smalltownadventuresmexico.com he'll assist asap, he's a canadian . tell him what you need and want .--///rh

I'm in Santiago now and I'm sure you'll have to be here to get an apartment. I will suggested a very nice and cheap hotel in el centro (poblado) that will get you started. The place is Ma Christina (short for Maria), it looks almost new, has about 20 units, a great huge pool, fan no air .... and great people run it. It's about 4 blocks into town at the main intersection (at the plaza). Price is $21 (210p) per night. Downtown Santiago is two blocks from the beach (Olas Altas) with great waves for playing.

I think Rod is just thowing out ads and expecting an email. People doing business won't give much help publicly 'cause it cost them money. I'm in Satiago right now and it depends on what you want to do when it comes to transportation. Taxies are $7 from here to Manzanillo central, $3 for most local trips. Buses are .40-.60cents and run constantly. I rented a car for two days 'cuase I wanted to see beaches north and south ... from the airport to Boca de Pascuales ... almost 200 miles. There are tons of tours ... where you can just leaving the driving to them. Rules of the road are pretty crazy (different I sould say)here.

Also www.mexicomexico.info for accommodations in La Manzanilla, Mexico

sparks : im on this message board to help-------- you are very wrong in your statements in your message, im not in business there to capitalize, but i promote the areas , as i like manzanillo ---------im on this board to help people and ask for not a dime , -------- my intent is to invest there and i see this area as not to be anyway negative to the tourists or people in need i don"t know you although know qiuite a few people of influence there that deal upfront with people , would sure like to meet you when there to see if you have substance and in the know ----// rod

If you have stayed or visited this area,I would appreciate hearing from you.

Hi Heather, I am here in Santiago, my friends have a house with an apartment below. I will be renting the house in Jan-Feb. Would you like their e mail address? I do not know how much they charge but it is new and never been rented, it is not on the beach but it has air conditioning and fans. I will give you her address...jpryor1000@earthlink.net Sorry I will not be back to the internet cafe as we are leaving on Thurs. I will check my mail when I get home if you have questions.

Hi, I really like this forum. I was wondering if there were any more out there on Manzanillo. Its hard to come by pictures. Seems to be the same ones floating around all over the web. ( in my humble opinion)Please help me find more pictures and info. Do you you know of any maps of the town of Manzanillo and outer areas? Thank you for your time.

Hey Rod, bueas dias I left Manzanillo and am now in Melaque. I, m not trying to start trouble but I see too many people that don{t want to give inforation publicly and that is what this is all about. Nothing personal ... but at least I try to give info here open to everyone. Anyone who has been here a few times has something to share .... don,t have to be an expert. Hasta amigo

Try www.gomanzanillo.com Adios! mexicomexico.info

Mike, Susan Dearing has written a very nice book about Manzanillo and the greater area. She posted a bit further down this board, and you could get in touch with her about getting a copy without too much trouble.

Gracios, I think Ill do that. I might head into Chapters today. Also I think I'll make sure I post lots of pictures when I get back for the rest of the people that may venture that way. Adios

Susan Dearing's book was our bible before and during our trip to Manzanillo. Most things in the book she covers in her web site www.gomanzanillo.com so be sure to check it out. You can order the book on this same web site. It is a good investment in learning as much as you can about the area.

I am off on holiday to escape tht cold of the far north, and I mean FAR NORTH. I am tentatively staying at the Vista Club and was wondering if any one know the joint. The oics seem nice but one never knows. Im easy to please but my wife, well lets say she want value for her money and leave it at that shall we. Any way its our first trip to the area and any assistance provided would be a blessing. We are planning a ten day to two week stay if any were else is recomended. Dave

Can you tell me if manzanillo supports cell phones I was planning to bring mine . When we were in playa last year one of the guest rang up a $1000 bill on her hotel phone , there was someone with a cell phone and it worked well.

will cell phones work in manzanillo.i was plannning on bringing my but not sure if the is a cell network

Cellular phones will definitely work in Manzanillo, which like most of Mexico has coverage of one form or another. The question is whether YOUR phone will work. There are three competing digital formats for cellular transmissions in the US (TDMA, CDMA, and GSM), as well as the obsolete and dying analog (AMPS) format. There's also two entirely different transmission frequencies, 800 MHz, and 1900 MHz. Different carriers and different phones will use one or more combination to provide you with service. The Mexican cellular market is dominated by Telcel, the cellular subsidiary of Telmex. Telcel started off with an 800 MHz AMPs network in major markets, replaced it with an 800 MHz TDMA network without pulling the plug on the AMPs network, and extended coverage to many parts of the country with 1900 MHz ("PCS") TDMA service. They're now starting to roll out 1900 MHz GSM service in very limited areas, with the goal of ultimately overlaying and replacing TDMA service nationwide, a process which will take several years (with the TDMA network being left active for a number of years beyond that, much like AMPs service is still live). Regionally, Telcel has a number of competitors, including Iusacel, Pegaso, Norcel, and Telefonica Moviles, most of which are using CDMA encoding on either the 800 or 1900 MHz bands. Iusacel (1900 MHz CDMA) advertises coverage in the state of Colima, I believe TelMoviles (800 MHz CDMA) runs to southern Jalisco but stops short of the state of Colima. Time to hit your phone manual or carrier's website.....

for about 3-4 months now the home page says "current surface seawater temperature 88F" is this still true? i keep expecting to see it drop before I get there in Jan.

My husband and I just returned from Manzanillo last week. We went diving about 10 times and the water temperature ranged from 79 (at 60') to 86 (at surface). The temperature may be a few degrees cooler in December but not much I am sure.

we were told that the best way to phone home was to purchase a prepaid phone card for $10 or so.

It will drop but not by much. El Nino has pushed the ocean temps up 2-3 degrees above normal this year. Enjoy! adios! mexicomexico.info

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I would like to know if in the marketplace most people there know english or if they just know Spanish?

hey best dollar value , i would say for your wife is the siera hotel . close to all things of interest and market place -can walk there or taxi or drive -have fun you two, and enjoy the people and sites , mello area to vacation -----------//rod --------

Just got back from 9 days in Manzanillo and rented a car for 3 days. Had a reservaton with Hertz, (got it on-line) for $25 US @ day. Went to National Car Rental to make a comparison.. They had a large poster on the wall with their rates. They had same rates as the internet, $25.00 US per day. He upgraded us twice for same rate. Location was on the main road next to the VW/Chrysler dealership, just across from the shopping mall. All the bargains are not on the internet. Many are right there waiting for you.

our family made our first trip to Manzanillo in April. Prior to our trip, I spent countless hours on the internet at www.gomanzanillo.com Through this web site you can order Susan Dearing's book on the Manzanillo area and believe me, it will be your bible. We took it along when we traveled and it answers all your questions and more. I found it to be the very best info on the area. Depending on where you decide to stay (we rented a private villa) the people at your hotel are very good at giving advice, as long as they speak English that you can understand. But Susan's book was the hot ticket.

I'm headed to Manzanillo in January, staying near the Las Hadas resort. Does anyone know of a Yoga studio where I can practice nearby?

We are going to Manzanillo in Jan. (Sierra), and I am wondering about shopping. Is Barra de Navidad the best place, despite the distance? What is the best way to get there, and how long does it take? Is there comparable shopping in Santiago or Manzanillo? Have already been to Barra (from the Blue Bay). Have to shop for souvenirs so would appreciate any info. Gracias!

Zillions of souvenir shops on the highway down the road from the Sierra, around Santiago area. A good bus to Barra would likely take about one and a half to two hours, but an interesting drive...delux bus would be an hour or less.

Skip the phone and use the internet cafes that are popping up everywhere. Phone calls from Mexico can be spectacularly priced. Internet cafes only charge a few pesos per half or full hour. Folks back home can even send you digital photos! For a great look at Manzanillo, check out www.rollybrook.com (I think I got the site address right...)

If you don't mind me asking what do they charge a night? Do they / you have a phone # for them? Also is it close to the nightlife.... beach... downtown people watching areas etc?

tony:------ i take the all inclusive pkgs-and-for two weeks-i feel the prices for what i get to be great and worth it-yes close for walking to town along the short cut to the santiago beach to town and the market area---------- and they are close by taxis to nightlife ---------all round close to every thing-tour are available also to many a sites or -cheap to rent a car and get out abd see the site and smaller villages and the sites , lovely place to be -deals galore at the markets and along the highway routes --------i could go on --------me i like to venture and always rent a car and go to barra and melaqueand el tecuan and to the hidden beaches on the coast--------a lot to seeand meet the people and they are hospitable and are as interested to meet you as you them-----////rod

tony :-----look on the internet for sierra hotel, manzanillo mexico---im sure they have a phone number and also info , nut im sure if your there or drop in they will accomadate you as to just hotel rooms, with or with out meal pkgs.--//rod

tony :-hotel has its own oceanfront beach and all rooms face the beach . lovely views------very majestic , the sierra hotel .--//rod

My wife and I have just returned from a 2 week stay, we rented a villa in Santiage. What a great place to vacation. The area is the safest in all of mexico, so much to do, grear restaurants and the locals are friendly. The only drawback was a day at maeva. the resort is great, spacious and clean with a friendly staff. The food however we found to be below paar for such a well know resort. Our suggestion is to stay in town and eat at the many restaurants, we were always pleased.

I was going to ask which marketplace .... but the easy answer is, Mexico speaks Spanish - period. They are very independant from gringos. Except in large resorts you will find little English spoken.

I can't believe it we leave in one more week and the temp looks great I compared it to Cancun and its 15 degrees warmer I cant wait we were close to booking on the other side but were a little disapointed with the weather when we were there we'll party hard

Hey my kids are wondering if theres a T.V. channel that carries Amazing Race and Surviovor

Last year I was planning a holiday in Mexico, and came across the website of place to stay which sounded absolutely fantastic. I hesitate to call it a hotel or a resort. It had only about 5 rooms, each accommodating 2 - 6 or so. Each was quite different and at least a couple of them where little more than a palapa, albeit with their own bathroom facilities. I'm sure I recall that it was 45 minutes drive south of Puerto Vallarta, and then a 20 - 30 minute boat ride. The rooms were a 10 or 15 minute walk up the hill from the beach. The place was set up by a foreigner (can't remember where from, but not a Mexican). It was only open from mid-November for 4 months or so, and had a chef prepare local food for dinners. It wasn't super-luxurious - I think it cost something like US$250/night for two people, and there was a minimum stay of 5 days or something like that. Does anyone know the name of the place? I can't remember and I can't find it on the net again! Many thanks, Richard.

Was the name Pepe's Hideaway? You can find it on the gomanzanillo site.

Sounds like Hotel Desconocido which is about an hour south of PV or Las Alamandas!

Hi, I just booked a trip to Las Hadas (was considering Sierra by Las Hadas was cheaper) and I was searching the web for info and came across a review about Manzanillo saying it was "the armpit of Mexico"!! Now I am either very offended or worried. I've been to Puerto Vallarta, thought it was nice, but touristy (time share city, dusty city but OK - missed old town completely), loved Neuvo Vallarta, but a bit isolated, Cancun was too young, Mayan Riveria too far and expensive (maybe next year) so I choose Manzanillo cause it's less touristy, close and reasonalbe in price for my Canadian Dollar - it seemed perfect for New Years. So, should I be worried?????? If I lower my expectations, I will still enjoy the trip. I just want a nice beach, OK food, a place to walk and wander in the evenings. any advice would be nice. Thanks

Take a look at some of these pictures of the area. I just got back Sunday. Las Hadas in is in a very nice area but not much for walking around a centralized area unless you take a taxi or bus downtown. Everything is spread out along the beach. There is a little "mexican" town called Santiago just a few miles north of you for some open beach walking and small/cheap resturants. 60cents by bus or not much by taxi. Manzanillo is a large working shipping port but that can be interesting. There is plenty to do ... don't worry be happy.

Nice pics! if that's an armpit, then I'd love to be a stick of ban...what is the location of the pics?

Some are DT Manzanillo, Las Brisas (just south of Las Hadas), Santiago (just north) and Playa Audiencia (next door). The rest are Melaque area about an hour north .... and the Lake Chapala area near Guad.

I think Manzanillo is fantastic and I highly recommend it! We go every year and love it more and more each year. There are approximately 7 beaches in the Manzanillo area and all are fantastic for beach strolling and shell picking. The food is one of the BEST things about Manzanillo. Along the hotel strip are many seafood and other various restuarants. They may not look like much from the front but you go in and they open out onto in the rear and overlook the beach...the food is fantastic. Don't get stuck eating at just a few either be adventerous and try many..you won't be disappointed. If you'd like some names and locations of my favorites, let me know.... Now lets talk about the Sunsets........they are the best I have ever experienced! Every night without fail a sunset that leaves you in awe! Las Hadas points in the wrong direction for the sunsets from the rooms so you will have to go out on the docks below the complex or be on a beach to get the full enjoyment.... From Las Hadas you will be able to see the lights from downtown Manzanillo and the shipping port...that is a beautiful sight also! Don't lower your standards according to your post, this seems like it will be the perfect place for you also. I have never stayed at Las Hadas so I don't know what your accomodations will be like but do rent a car and tour the beaches and restuarants both in the hotel zone and Santiago.

Thanks for the encouraging post! I am excited...and renting a car may be a good idea! It is soooo dark and dreary right now in Vancouver (Canada) and I can't wait to see the sun and feel the warmth. My favorite thing is too sit at the beach, with a nice beer or margarita, and watch the sunset before dinner. Should I be careful about ice in the drinks, or is the water generally purified at the resaurants like Puerto Vallarta?

Does anyone know if there is AOL access in Manzanillo if you bring your own computer. I see a lot of access numbers for other cities in Mexico, however, there don't appear to be any for that area. The other option is to use an internet cafe. Thanks for the advice.

Internet Cafes are the only way to go unless you are there for a long stay (months). I found about 4 Cafes that either did not work or very slow with outdated software. The one good one was in the Commercial Mexicana Mall at the northern edge of Manz ... near Las Hadas.

Don't worry about the ice in the drinks....we have never had a problem! Since you like to sit on the beach with a beer and/or margarita let me tell you about my favorite spot for this..... Across from the Club Maeva on the north side of Santiago is a cluster of restuarants along the strip of beach there.....we loved to sit there under the umbrellas or in the sun and be waited on by the waiter at El Tablo (yellowish orange restuarant). . . . best margaritas on the beach and he was always right there when we needed him. He has been there for the past three years ....he doesn't speak english though so we have never had a conversation with him but he knows us well and was really easy to communicate with. We went there every day after our dives...here you can watch the sunsets.....They also have excellent shrimp and tacos..... The only thing about sitting on this beach is the beach vendors are everywhere.....if you tell them to go away they do but if you like to shop they will bring you anything you want to buy.....I always have a good time with them they are generally very nice.. . I actually did all my souvenir shopping this way....oh the life...sitting on the beach in the sun with a margarita..sun setting over the hills and shopping! I am going to post my sunset pictures for you later tonight and put up a link for you to view them.......I have one from this beach that will excite you....

Janitos also has internet access for its customers at $10 peso per 15 minutes....good connection... great breakfasts too.. If you are going to stay for an extended period or need to be online a lot there is prodigy.mx or bay.net.mx for approximately $200 peso per month. Prodigy has a faster connection.

Anbody have any good scuba diving in Manzanillo or Barra/Melaque?

Yes good scuba diving in Manzanillo! We went the first two weeks in November and dove with Neptunes...it was fantastic. Lots of fish, eels, saw a eagle ray, lots of little stingrays... Some dive sites have swim throughs.... we dove 8 dives and a night dive... night ugly but interesting things come out! Took pictures but haven't gotten them developed yet....will post them when I do.. Heard Barra has some good diving also and Neptunes will even take you there for a day trip...we didn't make it there during this trip but will sometime....

John ... try this site run by Susan Dearing who runs a dive shop.

Does anyone know of a website for campgrounds in Mexico? I am looking for a R.V. campgound in or near Mazatlan but also I would be interested in R.V. sites from Nogales to Puerto Vallarta. Thanks, Margaret

we made our first trip to Manzanillo in April. Several in our family have traveled extensively throughout Mexico but preferred Manzanillo for several reasons. First of all, it is not nearly as touristy as most of the other destinations and it is more like "true Mexico". What you see is what you get. You will have no problem with drinking water or ice in Las Hadas - we rented a private villa which sits atop the hill looking down on Las Hadas and we spent several afternoons lounging on your beach, swimming, etc. We used the swim up bar in your pool and took advantage of your Marina to book fishing trips and snorkeling excursions. You will feel safe there. It is rather isolated from the downtown area of Santiago, but a $2 cab fare can get you there. Downtown Manzanillo is about 8 miles away and a busy, working port city but well worth taking a trip there for at least one day. Barra and Melaque are only an hour or so away and also well worth a day excursion. The bus station is nearby in downtown Santiago and the buses are wonderful. You have alot of options, but you will love Las Hadas and Manzanillo. We can't wait to return!!! As with all trips, it depends on what you want to get out of it. And anytime you travel to Mexico you must have an open mind because it's not USA. But if you love the people, their cultures and all that, you'll love it there.

Try the Pacific Mexico Handbook by Bruce Whipperman!

Hi Dan, I would love to have that book but it is out of stock and I am unable to order it !! Any suggestions??? Anyone have an extra one they want to sell me??

I can't remember the name, but someone mentioned a very nice restaurant with a spectacular view near Manzanillo. Anyone know the name, how to get there, how to reserve, or any other info. you can provide about the place. We would like to go there, from the Sierra, in January for my boyfriend's birthday. I think the name sounded something like L'ecif??

Manzanillo resturant guide SANTIAGO BAY RESTAURANTS + L'RECIF: This restaurant offers the most beautiful view of any restaurant in Manzanillo. Situated high on a cliff, overlooking spectacular rock outcroppings in a small cove. Enjoy cocktails and dinner while you watch the waves crash against the jagged rock pinnacles. They're lighted at night, and a perfect time to enjoy the view and have cocktails is at sunset. They also have a pool, and swimming is a great way to cool off if you plan to visit at lunch time. Even though the taxi to get there might cost about $6-9 dollars, depending on where you're coming from, you'll find nothing beats the ambiance and the excellent international cuisine of L'Recif. For reservations, call 335-0900.

We are spending one night in Manzanillo and then heading north to La Manzanilla. Im thinking we should take the bus into Manzanillo and rent the car on the way north. What is the best way to get from the airport to town? Bus? Taxi? How much does a taxi cost?

Hello concerned manzanillo visitor. I was there in Manzanillo last year in December and i had a blast. Hotels are very clean. Yes Sierra is a little more cheaper than Las hadas resort. I believe you will have a great time.

Sparks is absolutely correct, you'll find nothing beats the ambiance and the excellent international cuisine of this restuarant. The restuarant is in the Vida Del Mar Condominum complex which is a gated community...it is located about 10 minutes north of the Sierra. We stayed in a condo in the vida del mar complex and went to this restuarant on several occasions....I liked the Cilantro Chicken the best!!! The prices are very reasonable for the excellent quality of food. At night the cliff and waves are lighted which is very dramatic and romantic! Make a reservation and enjoy. The pool has a swim up bar

Three middle age women, full of fun and adventure , looking for a clean, inexpensive hotle, apartment or condo, close to down town. Any recommendation????? Also how are the Beaches in that area. Stayed in a condo last year , north of Manzanillo, would like to be closer to town. Thanking you in advance for any information

Stay in the Colonial if you want downtown ... but there is no beach. Closest beach area is Las Brisas. The Colonial is a well kept classic hotel that cost me 200 pesos for a single. The new waterfront area is nice but you can't stick your toes in the water. Heres a bunch of fotos If you've not tried the Santiago area ... you might try. It's a complete little town with resturants, motels and close to the beach. It's also close to the shopping and other tourist functions. My favorite motel in Santiago is Ma Christina (210 pesos a single). Check these fotos.

Taxi is the only way ... unless your hotel is picking you up. The price of a taxi is probably $25-30us depending on where you are going. Are you sure you want to do Manzanillo for only one day? I would try to do a few more ... or just go to La Manz and visit Melaque/Barra for variety.

Thanks again Sparks, do you know how I would contact the Ma Christina??? We will be cpoming down in Feb. maybe see you at the Chips party. and thank for the help

They typed this out for me - no business cards Hotel Maria Cristina 28 de agosto No.36 Colonia Santiago Manzanillo, Colima C.P. 28860 telefonos (314) 333-09-66 333-07-67 333-23-70

Would it be possible to for you to tell me what Manzanillo looks like? How much poverty is there and how does the town look thanks...in advance Bill

Hello, as has been stated in this thread Manazanillo is a working City of about 110 000 population. It is the largest Mexican Pacific Container port. Japanese car carriers and Cruise Liners also do frequently visit. It is the home port for the Pacific part of the Mexican Fuerza Naval, their recruits ( and the commanding Admiral and staff!) usually take a long swim every Mon-Fri at 07:00 from theupper Las Brisas area in front of the hotel La Posada. As a working harbor it has its pros and cons,you can watch the ship movements and there are sailors (merchant and Navy) on the streeets of downtown Manzanillo. Behind downtown the houses on the hills arwe colorful and some can only be reached on foot. The Mercado is interesting for a visit or two, unless you are in an efficiency and need the freshest ingredients daily for your food, then itis an absolute must. The Las Brisas area is the old hotel beach close to town and the others are further north and different in feel. Just two weeks ago my wife and I came back from a three weeks stay at La Posada and can only highly recommend it. We also highly recommend to get Susan Dearings book see: www.gomanzanillo.com if you want to venture beyond your hotel gates. As for poverty, this is Mexico, so you will see some, but Manzanillo seems to currently have enough work for (almost) everybody. Another point to consider is, that in a climate which does not require heat nor A/C, a "hovel" which in a climate like Toronto's or Boston's could not adequately shelter a huskie, could be considered fairly sufficient for human habitation. Did not come across beggars, only the occasional youth on a red stoplight who did some juggling between the stopped cars and you give him a penny or two for the entertainment. My only advice: Go Manzanillo and mingle Best regards Rudolf

There is shopping everywhere on the beach, in the Mercado in Santiago, in Manzanillo in the Mercado and on the streets, and for the Gringo shopping experience there are the Soriana and the Mexicana Super(market/stores). Bring beaucoup dineros Rudolf

cell phones work! bring yours and they can reprogram it if it does not, but PCS usually work Manzanillo area still has no GSM service, but City of Colima does. You can rent phones as well or get LADA phonecards for the plentiful public phones. Internet Cafes are plenty and cheap, too. Get a hotmail account before you leave and you will stay connected. Rudolf

true, schedule is every 15 minutes, give or take a little, this is Mexico after all. Rudolf

Hi, have you looked at La Posada? see hotels on www.gomanzanillo.com Rudolf

Thanks Rudolf ... (what a festive name!!)...that was great info. Where I live in Vancouver, Canada I can't walk down the street without being approached for money, or having someone wanting to sqeegee (sp?) my windows! It is not something that bothers me at all. I was thinking of bringing something for the maid's kids, like pens or books or ??? Any suggestions?

I should also say - no fax, email or english spoken.

Sara, second hand info: several parties who went to the L'Recife Restaurant during the last 3 weeks did not rave about the food. In comparison to other area restaurants they are pricier but not better. Parties who went there for dinner after dark, also mentioned Mosquitoes and noseeums as distractions. The location and view is spectacular, though, and your mileage may vary. Rudolf

second the motion! Susan Dearing and her partner Carlos Cuellar run Underworld Scuba, a first class operation. Rudolf

the other good Internet cafe has the same owner as the one in Commerciale Mexicana and it is in the (newer) Soriana Shopping Center facing the parking lot and next to the toy store. Reasonable fast connections and good equipment. Tried Juanitos once and it was a slug, plus they charge time for however long it takes to get connected via the dial up. Mexicana and Soriana shops computers are networked and always connected. Rudolf

Funsun, my personal preference is to be generous (but not outrageous) with tips. I am never sure if some trinket is really valued by the recipient the same as it is given by me. All of Mexico, including Manzanillo is not a 3rd world country anymore, so given the moola, the maid would be able to buy her children anything she could afford. as they say, your mileage may vary Best Rudolf ( with an f, the seasonal one has a p.h. and a red nose :-) :-) )

elaine, could not find any mention of Yoga in Susan Dearings book, but you could do one of two things: Either wait till you are there and look up Susan in her shop (it is on the road from the coastal Boulevard to Las Hadas), or question her by e-mail webmaster@gomanzanillo.com Rudolf

We only met Bart and Inga a little while ago while my wife and I stayed at the La Posada for two weeks this November It was obvious from the first day that they have created a very special place with the Posada. If you want glitz and pretentions - do not go there. If you want to relax and meet very interesting people, the Posada is the place to be. And BTW all the staff is very attentive, Ramon's Margaritas are sine qua non, and the weekday morning spectacle of hundreds of members of the Pacific arm of the Mexican Fuerza Naval swimming in front of the hotel is free, and that includes El Almirante. Highly recommended Rudolf

rudolf, any recommendations for other restaurants in the area? good location, view, romantic?

Don't let Rudolf change your mind about going to L'recif !! We go to Manzanillo every year and one of our favorite things to do is try out all the restuarants! There are many many good restuarants in Manzanillo but for a romantic special dinner L'recif is excellent and worth the trip. The food is wonderful...homemade breads, very fresh seafood and the prices are no different than the nicer restuarants on the hotel strip. About the mosquitos....no matter where you dine in Manzanillo you will encounter the mosquitos. All the very nice restuarants along the hotel strip which have outdoor seating areas come with the mosquitos! They do not bother you if you wear long pants and/or mosquito repellent. I have only had trouble with them from the knees down in the evenings....because I wear skirts. Honestly I was less bothered by them at L'recif than any of the other beach front restuarants. Probably because it is on the cliff and not right next to the water. However, if you don't want to go to L'recif there are many many other nice places to eat.... El Bigotes serves excellent seafood and has an open eating area right on the beach as does La Huerta. Both of these restuarants are on the hotel strip closest to Las Brisas beach. If you would like a good steak and be indoors, go to La Vequera (spelling may be wrong) This restuarant is located just as you make the turn from the hotel strip on the way to Manzanillo by the sail fish monument at the Las Brisas turn off. It is on the left and it doesn't look like much from the front but is very nice inside. Most excellent steaks!!! Actually all the very good restuarants don't look like much from the street but open up into wondeful eating areas.

Ken Did either Hertz or National REQUIRE you to purchase collision damage waiver with rental? Is this universal in Mexico? When I rented a car in Cancun last year ALL the rental agencies seemed to require it.

The Dolphin Cove condos were under our consideration when we went to Manzanillo last April. They sit adjacent to Las Hadas and looked great. As we were a family of 15 who wanted to stay "together", we opted for our own private villa near these condos. You may want to consider the climbing as they sit on a steep hillside and there are many stairs involved, depending on which level you are on. My in-laws were too old to climb all these stairs, but many facilities in this area have them as they are on the hill.

Do all car rental agencies in Manzanillo REQUIRE renters to buy the "optional" collision insurance in Mexico. That seemed to be the case in Cancun last year, but of course it is not required here in the states.

They did require the basic collision insurance when I have rented. The unreported minor damage or loss of things (like tire jack or spare) is optional and covered on your credit card.

John, NO, than strongly advised and gave me a price both ways. It was my choice. Don't believe that they would of bothered to give a price "without" if it were not an option.

John, you do not have to buy the optional insurance. Your credit card provides you with that if you use it to rent the car. They make you feel like it is required. It is a way to seperate you from as much of your money as they can. Make a copy of your visa benifits and bring it with you as well as the toll free number that you can call from Mexico should you need to. I find that as soon as they know that I know what I am talking about, they back off. It also helps to deal with the major companys. I have also found that if I book it over the net before hand, I save money and avoid a lot of hassels. Dom

Just returned from 2 weeks at the Sierra. Had a great time and would reccomend this resort for anyone. Food was great and drinks ran freely. My family and I took the bus all over the place. It was easy and cheap. People were very helpful. Went down and visited Susan Dearing and bought Tshirts and salt. Excellent vacation. YOu need 2 weeks!!

JUST GOT BACK FROM THE SIERRA HOTEL FOR TWO WEEK STAY , WEATHER GREAT ---------ALL WAS TO BE EXPECTED AS FABULOUS ---WE GO EACH YEAR THERE FOR TWO WEEKS ----------HAD MINOR EXTRA STAY DUE TO PLANE MECHANICAL PROBLEMS , BUT IT HAPPENS , THEN WE WERE PUT UP AT THE KARMINA PALACE HOTEL A 5 STAR PREMIUM HOTEL AND I WILL TRY THERE NEXT YEAR FOR TWO WEKS FOR SURE -----BUT OVER ALL THE SIERRA STANDS TO ITS NAME AND A IS A EXCELLENT HOTEL FOR ALL CONCERNED ----IF YOU GO YOU;LL APPRECIATE THE HOTEL AS MANY HAVE AND CONTINUE ----//ROD - rodndeb@sympatico.ca

Hello, Has anyone stayed at this resort recently? It has been a number of years (8-10) since I have been to Manzanillo. What has changed over this time period as compared to say Cancun? Thanks for any info! BEAR :-)

Strengths of the Sierra Manzanillo: Weather is great in the dry season: October to June, they say. We had 7 days of 30 degree Celsius (90 Fahrenheit) days in December Location- right on a large, 400m wide beach, unlike many in the area, which may have small beaches or none at all Beach- sandy and clean, not too many pedlars. The water was bathtub warm Cleanliness- the hotel is for the most part very clean Staff were generally friendly Good place for non-Mexican families to meet Mexican families. Not overrun with Americans and Canadians Weaknesses: Construction practices are poor in Mexico, so buildings crumble fast. The Sierra, which looks to be 25+ years old, is showing signs of wear: chipped paint on the furniture, bathrooms need refurbishing. The Karmina Palace, which is right next door, is a much newer building with nicer public spaces and much more luxurious rooms Service left something to be desired- requests for towels, calls to repair a plugged toilet and an attempt to get the TV not to wake us up automatically at 8 AM were all fielded cheerfully but not executed Food was OK. Breakfast was great, as we could have fresh omelettes and waffles. Other meals were mixed: great when it was made fresh, as was occasionally possible, but mostly the food sat for long periods in warming trays. Much of the stuff they served was very Mexican, as one would expect, but be aware that means a lot of gooey, stewy stuff 3 times a day. Quality of ingredients was also an issue, especially for beef. They would have a tray labeled "top sirloin" that contained tough, thin, gristly meat. Chicken and pork dishes were usually better. The Palapa snack place made burgers and hotdogs available noon to 5 PM, which was a nice break from the buffet. Manzanillo was OK. Not a lot to see but not unpleasant Overall, if we went back to Manzanillo, we'd go elsewhere. Based on what we saw and heard, we'd recommend Las Hadas (great beach, lots of stairs) for those without kids and the Karmina Palace (great building, nicer pools, more restaurants, small beach) for families

I would love to read about anyone's experiences getting to ( transportation options)and staying (hotels, b & b) in Colima. Mil gracias!

I've driven there from La Manznailla and I stayed at the Hotel Ceballos!

Have A few questions about Club Maeva: 1. Do the rooms have microwave ovens? 2. Do the rooms have coffee makers? 3. Can you leave the property to go diving while your kids are at the kids club? 4. Does the property have ice machines? 5. Can you order room service? 6. Is it easy to get a babysitter/price? 7. Is bringing a stroller of any use? 8. What room numbers are best for a family with a 2 year old? 9. How was the kids club? 10. Can the men wear shorts to dinner? Thanks for any answers you can provide Nancy :)

Hi i will try to answer some of your question the best i can as i have not been to maeva in a while. 1-no microwave in our room. 2-yes there was a coffee maker in our room. 3-I don't know but why would you. I went diving with neptues and enjoyed my dive but i read on this board they are no longer associated with maeva as maeva is doing diving in house with unqualified staff. I would reccommend neptune. 4-I got ice from the bar. 5- not that i am aware of 6-don't know. 7-yes as the complex is quite spread out. 8-100-200 are the best units as they are closer to the buffets and pools but still on relativly flat ground. the higher the numbers the bigger the hill to climb. the 100-200's will be a bit noiser as they are closer to the action. 9-never heard complaints or complements when i was there but there were not many young children at that time at the property. 10-at the ala carte you were not supposed to but i saw people in shrts all the time . the buffet no problem. I enjoyed my stay there. you should go through the search on this board as there were lot of maeva posts from the last 2 years and not many this year.

I just wanted to let you know there is no Casino at Las Hadas. We visited there December of 2002. Just in case that was an important factor to you.

Rod, going to Manzanillo soon. Can you recommend economy accomodations in town or suggest how I may get some info. Internet seems to tout the 200 to 500 dollar hotels. Appreciate any info

Hotel Colonial is DT a block from the waterfront. Great old classic from 40's, well kept, good resturant ... and $20us (200p) a night. If you want out of the city I suggest Santiago and Motel Ma Christina ... very nice, large pool, close to swimming/walking beach for $21us a night.

Hi! I will be in Barra in mid-February and am interested in going fishing at least one day. Is it a good time and what should I expect to pay for an enjoyable day on the water. Also, are all charter boats about the same price and quality or are some better than others. Recommendations?

Try the Barra forum ... Manzanillo is a couple of hours away

Fishing in Barra can often be better than it's southern compeditor Manzanillo. Boats are not all the same price but will be if you book through your hotel of tour desk. Count on paying 20 to 50% more through these as they all take a large commision. Go to the docks and find an owner or captain. Make sure they have good tackel with a variety of bait/lures and quality reels. Also ensure that they fish offshore and not coastal as the sails are more likely as far as ten miles out(some are caught very close but exeption rather than rule)and troll at proper speeds, seven miles pr. hour for sails. Bargin the price, it has been slow for fishing in terms of customers so skippers and owners are willing to negotiate the prices. I got a decent boat for thirty an hour. Often the booking desks will book at least six to a trip at around 60 a head which is 360.00. Your chances of getting six fish to the boat are slim at best so if your not the first one in the chair you can kiss 60.00 bills so long for a day out with five other stangers. Get a boat that has a least seven lines out at once and the fewer people on board the better. My wife and I had six sails, two dorado in one day out and only paid 220.00 for six hours. Last but not least, LET THE FISH GO!!!! Sails are not so good to eat and the boat only sells the meat any way. Best of luck and let me know how you make out.

Hola, I am taking my family (7 yr girl and 1 yr boy) here in June I want them to see more authentic mexico, can you recommend any family activities. We will be staying at the isla navidad resort. thank you dAN

Hey Nancy, Just got back to U.S. from a trip to Mexico, including Maeva. Thoroughly enjoyed almost everything, as expectations were not high...will gladly give more detail to anyone who wants to hear my humble (hahaha!) opinion. As for your questions: We had mic. and coffee maker. We went kayaking while son was in club; they knew it and had "no problema" with it. Don't think ice machines or room service exist. Sitters are available....I think it was $6/US per hour, plus rt cab fare. Stroller would have been useful to me, I drank so much...but depending on your room location (ours was by pool, very conveniently located) you may not need it. Our room was 200s, had 5 yr old with us... worked for us! Kids' Club? Frankly, my Dear....haha, you know the rest! But my Sweetheart was slightly dissappointed, opining that they showed movies too often. Everything seemed fine to me. Shorts: OK everywhere except Alfredo's, the Italian restaurant (reservations required, open approx. every-other night for dinner), which excludes tank-tops, shorts, etc. I hope this has been helpful!

Please help. Our group of 4 adults is flying in and out of Manzanillo. Didn't realize ahead of time how difficult and expensive it would to rent a car here vs PV. We want to rent a high clearance vehicle but definitely do not want a gigantic suburban. In fact, would prefer an older but reliable rental car. Is there a locally based company at the airport or in the city that offers something in between a 2 door softtop and a heinous SUV? Many thanks for your insights!

I have a reservation with Budget to pick up a car in Manzanillo and return it to Puerto Vallarta. The rate I could live with, but on the bottom of my confirmation it says LDW is mandatory. I just e-mailed them to find out how much, but after reading some previous e-mails regarding car rentals on this site - it sounds like insurance may not be mandatory. Can anybody clarify? Also, I am used to driving my own car south of the border and having to buy Mexican insurance. How does that apply to car rentals? Thanks for any advise. Looking forward to my first visit to the area. Hope its nice and warm as it's been cold up here in Alaska. Thanks for any advice.

If you expect good steak in mexico you is dumb

John, YOU ARE WRONG!!! We eat Steak in Manzanillo every trip at the La Vaquero (hope spelling is correct) and it is awesome. I know what I am talking about as we raise our own beef here in the states and I know a good steak when I eat one. Maybe you have gone to the wrong places!

Head north of Manzanillo (about ten minutes by bus), just past Santiago, Maeva, etc. to a private/public beach called Miramar or "La Bocita". It is a private resort but the beach is public domain. Look for the gated entrance or ask the driver. I learned to swim there when I was 6 years old. The beach is perfect for kids. The food is good, they have the banana boat, and the water is warm and less turbulent(try to go around noon). If you like to snorkel you can take a boat to the sunken ship about 400 meters offshore. Have a great trip.

Dear John, My husband and I have frequently eaten beef in Mexico and we totally agree with you!!!! El Vacquero serves up a mean steak and great tortilla soup. Mazanillo is our favorite place to visit. We have been returning to this great spot for 6 years now. Can't wait to return in February and enjoy a great steak!

yea the steak was imported from the US

Try the Bacon rap shrimp stuffed with caso. It is to die for. Beautiful spot. The movie 10 was filmed just accross the way. it is beautiful...

My family and I are going to Manzanillo in March. I would appreciate any comments on Karmina Palace, local restaurants, sites to see, and fishing. Thanks.

Hey. My name is Brittany and I am 12. I am going to be visiting Manzanillo in March and was wondering how it was down there. I was especially interested in the Karmina Palace, where I will be staying, the food, and the activities. Thanks.

Hi, My name is Gary and my wife and I will be arriving in Manzanillo and staying for a week (timeshare exchange) at the Sierra. Never having been to Manzanillo before ...have lots of questions. 1) We're not renting a car, so what are the ways to get to our hotel from the airport ? 2) We have our own snorkeling gear and will pack it with us if there is snorkeling in front of the hotel. If the better snorkeling requires travelling and doing an excursion with Ms. Dearing, then we'll leave our gear at home. 3) I love to fish and will bring a spinning outfit if there is fishing along the shoreline near the hotel. If no such fishing exists, I'll probably leave my gear at home and book a boat. I don't need large billfish...just some shoreline or larger reef fish would be great. 4) Are credit cards widely accepted most places, as they are in Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta....or should we bring a bunch of traveler's checks and cash ? Thanks to all of you who respond and can help us out. We normally travel to Mazatlan and PV...so Manzanillo is a new experience...experiment really. Hope we enjoy it. Gary

When visiting Manzanillo the last two years we were unable to find a good sharp cheese such as our familiar New York Sharp white cheddar. Where can we find similar sharp cheese in the local area and/or is it allowable to bring sealed, wax covered cheeses with us when we travel into Mexico?

Hi..I've just returned from Manzanillo, stayed at the Las Hadas, next to Sierra. I enjoyed the trip and the hotel, but the food left lots to be desired. I've heard the food is better at the Sierra. Definitely take your snorkling gear. We snorked right in front of our hotel, and it was great. We also walked down the hill from the Las Hadas main gate (up, then down for you --- lots of hills!!!) to a smaller cove that had good snorkling. Also, we saw people on the rocks fishing at this cove. Explore a little, you'll probably find other places to snorkle/fish within walking distance, as long as you don't mind a climb! We had a shuttle to hotel, but saw many, many cabs out front of the airport. Because of the many cases of credit card fraud in Mexico, I didn't use one...1 used the bank machine at the hotel and had a small amount of peso's to get by the first few days. Enjoy..I am very envious!!

If you don't have a hotel shuttle ... taxis are the only option ($20-30us). Credit card for the hotel and rental car ... and everything else should be cash (pesos) that you get from and ATM. Bring two ATM's just incase and make sure the PINs are 4 digit. Travelers Checks should be emergency only. Lots of locals fish off the rocks with line or off the beaches with nets ... consider what you are going to do with what you catch ... maybe give it to a local? Try Susan Dearings dive shop if you want a tour or just suggestions ... it's on the same peninsula (Audiencia) as your hotel (about 3 blocks off the main drag).

Hi Brittany ... I assume that other post is from your dad. Don't know about your hotel but read more of the messages here. I stayed in Santiago, a little town just north of where you'll be. I found some nice little restaurants there right on the main street. The beaches are nice and the water is warm. There is a shopping center close to you, Commercial Mexicana , that has an internet cafe, shops and some places that offer tours. Buses and taxis are cheap and fun. Try this web site for more info about Manzanillo here are the pictures from my trip


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