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http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/zipolite/sham.htm
And I have a site for Zipolite
http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/zipolite/index.htm
As well as lots of photos of Zipolite Sunrises in the Mexico Gallery
http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/gallery/gall26.htm
I hope you will pass this info along as I think the photos will bring people a lot of enjoyment and memories.
Tina Winterlik
twinterlik@telus.net
http://www.imagivity.com
tina_winterlik@hotmail.com
December 2000
En Chiapas nos encontramos con una gente que nos recomendo Zipolite, ni siquiera habiamos oido hablar de esa playa, pero como nos dirigiamos a Puerto Escondido decidimos pasar a ver de que se trataba. No estabamos con muchos dias y por eso el plan era quedarse tan solo un dia en Zipolite y despues seguir con el viaje, pero no fue asi lo que paso, nos quedamos 10 dias y la verdad es que nos hubiese gustado estar mas tiempo alli, es la mejor playa que conoci en la vida, Zipolite es un lugar espectacular. Daria cualquier cosa por volver.
Jonathan Stolarz
jonstolarz@hotmail.com
December 2000
Favorite restaurants: El Tres De Deciembre, El eclipse
I still perform music here in Montreal. One of my last compositions is entitled ''La Plage Des Morts'' A.K.A Zipolite. I love to share this song with an audience because I know someone is sitting there relating to my experience as it is a very haunting one. I am completely possessed by the magic of these Mayan grounds. I wish to share the lyrics with those of you who relate. I hope you understand French.
LA PLAGE DES MORTS
Je reve du voyage, qui n'est plus.
Cette eternel liberte, que j'ai trouver.
La mer assourdissante de sa puissance,
Les femmes venue, parti avec jouissance.
Je te vois clairement dans mes pensees,
Ma mer, ma vie, mon charm, Zipolite.
Seductrice de tout dans mes pensees,
Un fils pour toujours, tu m'a laisser.
Amo el canto del zenzontle
Pajaro de quatrocientos voces
Amo el color del jade
Y el enervante perfume de las flores
Pero amo mas a mi hermano el hombre
Tel la nuit qui m'emerveille
Le scorpion amoureux de l'abeille,
Cherche a parler de son poeme.
Sous les etoiles, on se devore ma belle.
Soudainement tu es calme et je me mefie,
Ton energie boulversante, pur magie.
Te me piege dans douce amour,
Et me garde en trance pour toujours.
Zipolite, La plage des morts.
Guy lacroix
godbwa@yahoo.ca
December 2000
So it was in about 1985 (when I was only 44 years old). As I was then, I still am an Instructor of Psychology here at Wharton County Junior College in Wharton, Texas. When I traveled down there that summer, just as a two day side trip, from a two week trip to Mexico (a fellow traveler on a second class bus had mentioned, a few days earlier, how that was such a unique and beautiful, as well as, very cheap place to stay/at the time it was only 60cents/night!).
That evening as I was sitting on the patio overlooking the absolutely beautiful ocean, beach, and surf I was thinking to myself how "this place" must be a heaven on earth. Just before I went "to bed" that night, in a hammock of course (as I indicated it was only 60 cents a night to stay there), I had heard an Indian playing a flute for perhaps an hour or so, somewhere perhaps about three or four hundred yards down the beach from "The Hotel" (the hotel consisted of tree stump supports for the ceiling and the roof was made of palm leaves, etc.). Then a little later I went "to bed," in the hammock, of course, which was only one of a row of about 10 hammocks. Later that night, at about 2:00 AM, I heard some kind of "chopping" sound nearby. I couldn't figure out what it was. I remember thinking, to myself, why would anyone be chopping firewood in the middle of the night? Then, a few minutes later, I saw someone approaching the row of hammocks. They (there were two of them) came right up to my hammock! One of them bent over me with his long black hair dangling in my face. I was pretty confused as to what was going on and, quite certainly, a bit frightened.
At that point I yelled, very loudly, "What the hell are you doing?" The two Indians jumped back, and each of them raised their large machetes as if readying themselves to slice through my body! Well, many thoughts went through my head, and, believe me, and can, very clearly, remember every single one of them! And in this exact order------"So, it looks like this is how I am going to die." Then---"I'm not dead yet, so I'd better get out of here!" Then, I somehow made some kind of "rather perfect" leap out of the hammock, and yet, out of necessity, toward the two Indians, hoping that they would not thrust their machetes into my body! I then ran (I guess somewhat like a scared rabbit) directly into one of the tree-like supports holding up the roof. But you know what, it didn't even hurt (I guess that that was something like when I played football in high school; in the heat of the game you don't feel any pain when getting hit!)! So I got up (hoping that I would not feel the blade of one of those machetes piercing my shoulder) and made my escape into the forest. Well, somehow I made it out alive!
The next morning, in my own somewhat broken Spanish, I asked the Indians, running the place there, to help me understand how to explain what had happened some hours earlier. They told me that the two Indians (a young man and his Indian girlfriend) were actually drunk and had decided to come up there "to kill an American!". And, as for the chopping sound that I had heard earlier, well, that was the sound of the two drunken Indians chopping there machetes into a new car that a Mexican (he was a male model from Mexico City and, I think "gay") had driven there. And the next morning when he saw his car, was he pissed! There were, as I remember, about 15 gashes a half an inch deep in his "brand new car." The Indians must have thought that it was the so-called "Rich Americano's" car. Actually, I was traveling with only a pack on my back.
As it turned out, that place wasn't exactly "a heaven on earth". I left about an hour later in order to continue my trip to other and hopefully "safer" places in Mexico.
So now I have a few questions to ask you. Questions that have lingered in my mind for the past 15 years, and perhaps you just might know the answers to some of them--and perhaps not.
1. While there I kind of got the idea that the place was a homosexual hang-out. I remember seeing a couple of fellows together in one of the little rooms perhaps doing some rather "different things" together. And then there was the male model from Mexico City. And also, I later heard that the beach there was perhaps known as a "nude beach for gays?" Was this true?
2. Also, I heard that the place was actually owned by a lady from San Francisco, CA.?
3. There were, as I remember, a whole lot of Zodiac-like signs and symbols around? Is that true and what did that mean? Not that I think that that is bad (I don't), but I am just trying to figure out what kind of a place that I was at. And, perhaps, if and how "these things" and "the Indians there" may have somehow been related to that really rather frightening experience that I had there that night.
I guess that you might think that this is a rather strange letter/e-mail, but it is an absolutely true story that I felt that you, as the new occupant there, just might find rather interesting.
When you get a chance, I sure would like to hear from you--to get your response to my rather strange experience at Zipolite, and perhaps to answer some of my questions.
Doug Soderstrom, PhD
dougsoderstrom@yahoo.com
December 2000
When posting the "story" about my experience in Zipolite, please add this: "That I do not, at all, feel badly about the place there. In fact, what happened there that night has turned out to be one of the more exciting experiences of my life. Now that I know that Gloria is such a fine (truly a neat) lady, I can't wait to bring my 26 year old son with me back to Zipolite one of these days so we can both meet her. But from what I have read, it is not the same wonderfully rustic place that it was when I was there back in about 1985 (too much modern development, etc.). Anyway, if you (Gloria ) eventually get this message, I am looking forward to meeting you sometime, perhaps, in a couple of years. And the very best to you in rebuilding your place since the hurricane. Thanks, - Doug Soderstrom
Yann Bellec
camping.les.mouettes@wanadoo.fr
December 2000
Hello I've been at Zipolite many times, I were there from november 15th to 21th (2000) with 3 friends, we enjoyed this beach very much, MAZUNTE It's the best place to stay.
TOM: I think your page is wonderful, I don´t know if you are Mexican, but if you aren't I have to say you thank you for this page, It's really great. I'm Mexican and your page was excellent help for our travel, We made reservation in POSADA ALTAMIRA because It used to be full all time (this one wasn't the exception, people from France, Italy, Germany and USA), I think I saw more foreigners than mexicans. ZIPOLITE was like always, the sun, the sand, the sea as cool as the others times I went, but Incredibly there were many families with young sons (In a Nudist Beach!) However I met people from all over the world. I wondered how do the foreigners know about those far away beaches, I think is your fault, THANKS AGAIN.
GIL.
P.S. I will go there in July or August 2001, Does someone want to live the experience? Write me as soon as possible.
Si tu veux aller à Zipolite l'anne prochaine avec moi, email-moi.
Voy a ir a ZIPO el año que viene, si alguien quiere irse a la aventura conmigo queda cordialmente invitado
email: mxxxboy@yahoo.com
with/avec/con: Gil Ramírez
BYE/AUREVOIR/HASTA LUEGO
December 2000
Specifically, I am interested in visiting Mazunte and Zipolite. Actually, I hope I can be there next January and stay in one of those cabañas of Cabañas Yuri. Someone told me that I have to make a reservation or pay in advance, because the cabañas are usually full in those days.
By any chance, do you have the phone, mail or any idea of how can I contact the owner of Cabañas Yuri?
Rocío
rociofj@yahoo.com
December 2000
No, but maybe the readers can help us. -Tom
Of course, as Shambhala veterans all know, the best thing of all about the place is Gloria herself, the Grand Dame of Zipolite, who came to the virgin beach in '70 and started Shambhala as a remote communal Buddhist outpost for spiritual seekers...the same vibe that still pervades today. Catch Gloria down in the restaurant when she's not fussing with the parrots, and with very little prodding, she'll get out the old photo albums and launch into the amazing saga of Shambhala, her Vision, and the 30 year progression of Zipolite from a couple of fishermans' shacks to the anarchistic sprawl of international, nudist, dope smoking, slacker/hippy/backpackers it is today. Gloria's always meant for Shambhala to be far more than just a funky beach hotel, and that's what makes the place special, she really cares about the folks who visit, and views them not as customers, or even guests, but more as friends and family. It that Vision thing, you see..
Keep up the fine work and I'll see you out there on the beach!
Muchos Saludos
Sean Pogue
pogue@frognet.net
PS When you swim on the west end of Zipolite, watch out for the rip tide that runs along the rocks right next to shambhala...dangerous! Ask anyone working there to point it out to you, and show you the safe places to swim.
Daniela de Uruguay
danderi@hotmail.com
November 2000
I will be returning to Zipolite to write my Master's Thesis and hope to be able to give something back to the community that gave me a new outlook and second chance on life. I found Zipolite by accident while running away from a nasty divorce, evidence again of the karmic cycle. The people I have met there are as fresh in my thoughts and heart as the days I was there. I can hear the surf crashing against the rocks, and I still see the flask of green as the sun sets deep to the west. The smell of fresh fish grilling and beans cooking drifting across the beach as fires spring to life against the dark. The drums beat in time with the heartbeat, and something magical happens that only one who has been there can understand.
If anyone knows "Carlos" or Charles, Paladin of Tropical Beaches, who lives there most of the winter, tell him Douglas says hello and to email me. Viva Zapatistas! and save an hamaca for me... I'll be back soon...
W. Douglas Thorpe
oceandreemer@yahoo.com
November 2000
Hi Tom: As the comments I had seen in your webpage, I must congratulate you for such well work. I was doubting of which beach I will stay in the next holidays I'm planning to do next first days of January, finally thanks of the information you show on the web I have decide for Zipolite. I would like to ask you how I can communicate with Hotel Lola's or the Cosmico, if they have enough place or if I have to reserve, and also the price of their accommodations.
Thanks for your help
Ana Laura Sánchez.
ana_laurasanchez@hotmail.com
November 2000
I don't know how to contact them. I understand that Zipolite has telephones now, but until someone tells me the numbers, I cannot provide them. -Tom tom@tomzap.com
I just returned from Lo Cosmico. Antonio, the owner, says there is no telephone, fax or e-mail whatsoever. Just show up and hope there is a room. -Richard Ball, richardball@webtv.net.
It would be for me and my husband (we're middle-aged -- but have lived in separate cities for the past 6 months -- so romantic is good). We like to read and swim and eat really good food. Other than that, we are not fussy. Would prefer something with cooking facilities -- several rooms would be great but not necessary.
meiklejohn@ppic.org
October 2000
leahkee@yahoo.com
October 2000
I am visiting Mexico for the first half of next year and I am after information regarding the renting of accommodation on a monthly basis in areas surrounding Puerto Escondido and Zipolite. My budget will be up to US$200 per month.
Wesley James
wesolegend@hotmail.com
October 2000
Dear Wes, Ever since your email first appeared regarding a 200usd monthly rental budget, I've been waiting for someone else to write with the bad news. Since noone has, I guess I'll have to break it to you. That accommodation budget might have sufficed a decade or two ago, but not now. At best, it might get you a shared bath room in a palapa on Zipolite, but even the Casas de Huespedes are going to be more than that in Puerto Angel, forget Huatulco. I hope that budget was room only and not food too, or you'd best be looking for a hammock to rent under a palapa roof. Inflation...-John M. Williams, sharkbait69@yahoo.com
Darrell
pare@intergate.bc.ca
October 2000
Darrell, Forget 'em both. You might get a chilly night in Zijuatenejo. The Oaxacan coast is prettier and friendlier. Go with Zipolite/Mazunte. -John M. Williams, sharkbait69@yahoo.com
We just returned from revisiting the places of his birth and early infancy, and he expressed interest in purchasing property in Zipolite. How can we find out about prices, availability, etc??? Do you know any real estate people working there? Or have you heard of anything for sale?
Catherine Stone
psyche13@jps.net
October 2000
Arlene and Derald
aklapati@goldcity.net
October 2000
Jeff and Ana
tierrapin@hotmail.com
October 2000
Bill Barker
bbilredbar@email.msn.com
October 2000
I hope to return to Mexico soon, and maybe take in the rest of Central America too. For now, my memories and photographs, as well as your website will have to do!
Andrew Ellis
aellis80@hotmail.com
September 2000
I am visiting Mexico for the first half of next year and I am after information regarding the renting of accommodation on a monthly basis in areas surrounding Puerto Escondido and Zipolite. My budget will be up to US$200 per month.
Jon Hassett
jhassett@chestsouth.com.au
September 2000
June
Junequinn2@aol.com
September 21, 2000
Thank you so much for your quick response to my call regarding my son Travis. He contacted me early this morning. 9/22/00 -June
Bruce Conrad
baconrad@mindspring.com
September 2000
Anyone have any advice on new places to go that capture the beauty and human spirit I found in Oaxaca? Low cost, few tourist, and a place to hang my hammock are all I really seek, and a little human spirit never hurts. I'm looking into Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and other spots in Mexico. Any Advice from recent travelers would be much appreciated. I'm planning on going for at least four months, so I'll have plenty of time to return to Zipo and give thanks for awakening this spirit. My love to Karen, Isabel, Mabooba, Candice and Charity. Keep on living the sweet life.
Terry Malloy
malloyterry@hotmail.com
September 2000
Audiobook: Out of the Blue
Dear Tom: I writing to let you know that my audiobook, Out of the Blue, based on my experiences at Zipolite and Pina Palmera during my research around the time of Hurricane Paulina is now available at www.mp3.com/davidkendallgrant/. 50% of CD sales royalties on the website will go to Piña Pamera. Episode 17, the climactic hurricane scene is number three on the MP3 audiobook chart. I hope you will put a link on your site so that people can take advantage of this opportunity to be entertained and support Pina Palmera.
David Kendall Grant M.S.Ed., Ph.D.
dgrant@sowega.net
www.mp3.com/davidkendallgrant/
August 2000
See David's Visitor's Comment at the time of Hurricane Paulina. -Tom
Tina
Tina.Siebenmann@mediacom.de
August 2000
I don't know about that place. If it is in Zipolite then it may not have a telephone. Maybe someone else can help. -Tom
Last time I saw him he was visiting puerto escondido where he has a house. I was also living there but have since returned to Toronto,so i have no way of contacting him. I'd love any info,i am a little worried.
amerrilees@hotmail.com
August 2000
Michael and Kate Kelley
beachkak@adsnet.com
August 2000
So now I am. Are you actually in Mexico, and/or can you get a message to Gloria or know of someway for me to get a message to her? I'm going to send her a letter explaining what I am doing but since I am starting this project and it is supposed to be done by Aug 16/2000, I was wondering if there's anyway to get a message to her, for her to send some info through email to me. I have an old brochure, but I want to know if she wants something updated or a special message. It would be great to get a list of the names of the restaurants and hotels on the beach. I know some, but some confirmation would be better. I have a web site presently on yahoo, but that is all changing very shortly, and I am putting up a much more extensive site
http://www.geocities.com/tina_winterlik
Tina Winterlik
tina_winterlik@hotmail.com
twinterlik@telus.net
July 2000
I don't know how to contact Gloria. -Tom
My wife and I stayed at Brisa Marina for semana santa this year. The rooms were great, and everyone seemed very hospitable.
Shawn Gibbons
gibbones@hotmail.com
Aliso Viejo, CA
June 2000
Indiana Jim
marbleloco@netscape.net
June 2000
Anybody know this? - Tom   tom@tomzap.com
I felt very comfortable and free while I was in Zipolite. The laid back lifestyle, the fresh fish, the interesting people from all over the world were only a few of the wonderful things I experienced while I was there. I loved laying in my hammock at night watching the lightening show over the ocean. It was unlike anything I've seen before or since. Ahhh, the memories....
Anyway, I do have a question. While I was there I went to a place at the (I think) north end of the beach. It had little huts on the side of the hill. At this place was a meditation point that I heard was one of the main meditation points in the world. Is this true, and what is the name of it?
I am sorry that I can't tell you about the two places I stayed while I was there, it was too long ago. I am very happy to see this site and thank you for your time, maybe I'll see you in Zipolite!
Mahalo Nui Loa et A Hui Hou!
Kristen Bozeman
krisb7777@aol.com
June 2000
Cool story. I believe the place you are talking about is Glorias. -Tom
Jennifer Stuart
Vancouver Island, Canada
jenniferstuart@hotmail.com
June 2000
Telephones are new in Zipolite. I don't know if those places have telephones yet. -Tom
Being Mexican never had a chance to visit, now, while living in the US think that might have been a mistake.
In any case, I'm looking for Pablo Lozano, I know he is at Lyoban resort, we both left Mexico City at about the same time, he went to Zipolite and I came to the US, and I lost his e-mail address and changed mine because of my moving. So I've lost contact with a very dear friend of mine. If you happen to know him, could you please pass this message along to him?
Thank you very much for your very warm page and your help.
Enrique M. Flores
ilya_33131@yahoo.com
June 2000
Maricarmen Arjona
marjona@igc.org
mariarjona@yahoo.com (después de 17 de Junio)
June 2000
All this for $400 a week. We spent a week there in May and had a difficult time coming back!
The house is in a neighborhood off the main road, so it's best to have private transportation. We managed without, by walking to the main road (10 min) and catching cabs or colectivos to either town or Zipolite. Or you can just walk the whole distance, of course.
Highly wonderful. Go to the website at http://www.puertoangel.net/
Stefan Frazier
stefann@sfsu.edu
June 2000
A Telephone at Last
Another part of civilization has arrived. Yesterday the Mexican telephone-company installed a phone in our office at Piña Palmera. Our number is +52-958-43147. This will save us a lot of time as we always have had to go to Puerto Angel to make phone-calls. Next week we will also have a fax at the same number. (We will solicit another line for the fax.) We are all doing fine. The first rains are arriving finally and next Tuesday meeting we will form this season's emergency committee. (Hopefully they will have nothing to do...)
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Piña Palmera" A.C.
pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 2000
Gracias a todos y un saludo enorme a Zipolite ya que la pase bárbaro. Despues continue mi viaje hasta Houston, Texas, y de ahí nuevamente a Los Angeles donde tome el avión a Buenos Aires. Quiero decir que Mexico es espectacular pero todo fue un antes y despues de Zipolite.
Juan B.
panza4@hotmail.com
May 2000
Looking for Sean Pogue   FOUND
We are looking for my brother, Sean Pogue. I know he was working in a small hotel in Zipolite around August of 1999. In January he went to Xela, Guatemala and took some language classes. His last correspondence to my father was dated February 11th and he said he wanted to head back to Zipolite and work for a few weeks before returning home on the 18th of April. He called my mother on April 4th and said his flight was booked for the 18th and that he would not have a lot of Internet access until then. He was back in Zipolite working in the small hotel on the beach. He mentioned that this one had a bar made out of driftwood. He said he was cooking food for the staff and cleaning. No one has heard from him since. He mentioned Puerto Escondido as another possibility.
He is 33 and from Athens, Ohio. He is about 6 feet tall and dark blonde hair. His hair style changes often. He plays the banjo and is very intelligent.
Thank you for any help you can give us, our family is really starting to worry.
Michelle
michelle.plaisance@atcmail.com
May 2000
Someone saw this post and contacted Sean, who emailed his sister. Thanks. - Tom
The Posada Brias Marina is also very nice, but the room and furniture are made of plain wood, with a wood floor, and the balcony is shared with three other rooms, but the hammocks are included. Also, the owner Daniel, is American and speaks English. Both places offer the good oceanview rooms for $20.00 US a night, cabanas at $6.00US, and a hammock for $1.50 per night.
The Tao was still there at the end of March, and seemed to be doing a booming business. I did not get to check out the rooms, but from the outside the place looks very nice. They also put on a buffet a few nights, with a choice of entree for $5.00 (their camarones are delicious) that includes all the beans rice and salads you can eat.
Chris Farquhar
nptravelcorp@home.com
Naked Planet Travel
nptravelcorp@home.com
May 2000
Bill Barker
BBilredbar@aol.com
May 2000
I always stay at Lola's, at the Playa d'Amour end of the beach. The rooms have running water, are clean and cleaned daily. In April, I negotiated my room with private bathroom and balcony at 750 peso's for the week. Their restaurant serves good food and at reasonable prices. One day for lunch, I ordered Sopa Pescado (fish soup) and my waiter was somewhat surprised at this "gringo's" choice. It was a bowl of broth in which floated a cooked fish, complete with head, eyes, fins and scales. A knife was provided for "in-bowl" filleting. I think it was eight peso's for the soup.
To travel there, I get "air only" from a Toronto charter company, to Huatulco, then walk down to the highway and get a bus to Pochutla. Then another bus to Zipolite.
At least once during the week I'm there, I take a collecto cab to Puerto Angel, where I have a wonderful dinner at the Bueno Vista Hotel. A large marguerita, three course dinner, glass of wine and the obligatory Kahlua is about $20. CDN. which is about $14 U.S. at this time. I'm a naturist and nudity is common at both ends of the beach, somewhat sparse in between.
As previous comments indicate, NEVER even consider drug dealing; it's watched very carefully by the local police. Last year there was a money exchange on the road behind the beach, this year it's not there; neither is there a money exchange in Puerto Angel. Pochutla has a couple of banks, even with ATM's, also one at the airport in Huatulco.
Do not expect any 3, 4 or 5 star accommodations in Zipolite. There is no hot water at any that I know of. The furnishings are ESA (early Salvation Army) and my balcony railing was broken, but was replaced by a single strand of string!
Nevertheless, Zipolite is still my little paradise, and continues to be very inexpensive. As previous people have said, the surf is extremely strong and riptides are common. If not a strong swimmer, do not venture out past your waist. Feel free to email me for any questions and I'll be glad to answer as best as I can.
Chris Fearon (Mr)
chris.fearon@sympatico.ca
May 2000
Jeff Rickard
jrickar@comp.uark.edu
1219 N. Storer Apt. 65
Fayetteville, AR 72703
April 2000
Tomaso Gobbi
gubash@freesurf.ch
April 2000
Mireya Escalante
mireya@dsi.com.mx
April 2000
Hola soy karla!!....en Diciembre del 99 fue la segunda vez que fui a Zipolite y la neta, mi opinion no ha cambiado para nada, ese lugar es la ley!!, el mar, los paisajes, todo! Esta super chido...lo chido tambien es que puedes conocer gente de todas partes, osea que hay un intercambio cultural cañon!...las dos veces que he ido me he quedado en "le castelet", esta super bien, las cabañas la neta no son caras, ademas de que estan super limpias el restaurant la verdad para lo que esta en el menu esta muy barato a comparacion de otros lugares en donde te saldria un ojo de la cara comer un platillo Frances, y para la cafeteria lo mismo, le castelet esta en roca blanca y puedes llegar en taxi desde Pochutla, esta bien cerca de la puesta que es la disco y esta en la segunda calle, no esta frente al mar, pero aun asi esta chido...si eres mujer y vas por primera vez no te asustes si el teporochito de zipolite "coco" te empieza a seguir, simplemente asustalo y se va , pero de todos modos ten cuidado por que igual y te agarra jeje... Si eres de los tipicos que van a acapulco o a can-cun y quieres ir a Zipolite, open your mind por que si no estas jodido ah y tampoco esperes encontrar grandes discos ni nada por que zipolite por eso esta chido (aun) !!!....por favor!!! No se confien y no dejen sus cosas en cualquier lugar por que cuando menos se lo esperen pueden desaparecer, lo he visto muchas veces y esta cañon por que muchas veces ahi tienen pasaporte etc...!!!!....el 31 de diciembre fui a la ceremonia de año nuevo en el shambala y fue algo muy muy lindo!! Nunca voy a olvidar ese dia fue bien chido!!!...Por favor no te quieras creer el mejor nadador(a) ni nada por el estilo, asi que mejor ten muchisimo respeto con el mar, por que ahi hasta un master-nadador puede morir si no se cuida, la corrientes son muy fuertes y vienen de todas partes, asi que es mejor que no te metas mucho, en caso de que te jale la ola y no puedas regresar ¡¡ni lo intentes!! por que es peor lo que debes de hacer es quedarte detras de las olas y flotar hasta que te rescaten los salvavidas ( si te ven... sino pues a rezar !!)....lo chingon igual es que en la noche te puedes ir a cualquiera de las fogatas y estar ahi escuchando a los chavos que tocan los tambores o igual y te pones a tocar o a bailar, asi que aunque no conoscas a nadie en la fogata, no importa solo acercate... bueno es todo lo que yo puedo contar de zipol, no se pueden perder este lugar! es lo mejor !......Un gran saludo a bernardo el duéño de le castelet( que onda bert!!! una lana no??), un saludo igual a gungu ( a ver si ves mi mensaje), y al alejandro (que quien sabe en donde anda), Julien si ves esto ecris-moi!!!.......adioss!!! y vayan a zipolite la neta no se van a arrepentir!
Karla.
laura@sureste.com
April 2000
Julia Evans
England
jevans@ordsvy.gov.uk
March 2000
When it was time to go Hubert offered us a ride to La Crucecita to a place his friend owned for our last night. It was hotel Las Palmas and his friend and owner was a gentleman by the name Willem or Memo. Well this guy knows everybody and everything. Deluxe rooms-hot water-air cond. and even toilet seats. The restaurant rivals some of the best I've seen in Chicago for quality and service. Again Willem knows where everything is and speaks perfect English. Took Dave and I another 5 days to leave this party. This is a must for anyone looking to stay away from the ugly Americans at the large resorts. p.s. the women are still fine in Zipolite but so are the thieves.
Also beat the large Mexican school teacher arm wrestling at Shandors palapa 3 times. Thanks for the web site.
phil(hoss)chicago
PSFLEETMAN@aol.com
March 2000
Reservations are recommended during Easter holidays, but I don't know how to do it in Zipolite. - Tom
We've just returned from a couple of weeks at Mario Corella's place in Mazunte. We took a boat ride out from San Agustinillo and saw a bird that does not occur on his list--a Red-billed Tropicbird. These are usually nowhere close to land, but it was right by the big guano-covered rock out in the ocean just West of Zipolite. We thought he might be interested in hearing about it. I don't know if he considers that close enough to the Puerto Escondido area to include, but he might.
By the way, the Mole web page has moved. Its new URL is http://www.ramekins.com/mole/molehome.html
Tess Ewing & Louise Rice
ricewing@worldnet.att.net
March 2000
Lesley Hyatt
lahyatt33@yahoo.com
February 2000
Thanks Tom! In fact, this morning I received an e-mail from them--Richard saw the posting on your site. Superrapido. Muchisimas gracias. Lesley
Particulars on travel: Matamoros to Puebla - ADO (Not GL) - $422 pesos Departed 7:45 PM on 12/25, Arrived 1:00 PM on 12/26 No tickets were available to Pochutla on any bus lines due to heavy holiday traffic. Had to take my chances. Puebla to Oaxaca - ADO-GL - $185 pesos Departed 8:00 AM on 12/27, Arrived 1:00 PM on 12/27 Again, there were no tickets available to Pochutla. Had to change bus stations, took a taxi to Central Bus Station across from the Mercado de Abastos. $60 pesos. At central station, I purchased a ticket to Pochutla on Oaxaca Pacifica, direct, 2nd or 3rd class, $69 pesos. Departed 2:15 PM on 12/27, Arrived 10:00 PM on 12/27. The bus had mechanical problems and probably delayed our trip by a couple of hours but the bus driver/mechanic finally got us to our destination. I was picked up by family and drove to Zipolite by car. We drove by car back to Puebla. I took the same bus back to Matamoros ADO, $422 pesos, departed at 10:55 AM on 1/07, arrived at 6:00 AM on 1/08. The trip took longer than normal due to Federales stopping all traffic from Tampico to the border.
ADO is a good bus line, inexpensive and comfortable although a little crowded. The drivers are very experienced and give passengers plenty of time for the restroom and eating stops. I found them friendly and helpful. The ADO GL is top of the line and I will probably take this one the next time I travel to Mexico. There is twice as much room with only 20-25 seats and a nice coffee bar and clean restroom. Prices are higher for the GL and only selected routes available. The roads were all in great shape, only a few bad spots on the way to Pochutla due to the earthquake. We had heard though that the road to Puerto Escondido was badly damaged.
Mazunte was crowded but not too bad. The work at Ventanilla is progressing very rapidly and the swamp is well on its way to recovery. The liberation of the baby turtles at sunset is a site to behold, be sure to check it out! The people of this community have worked many long hours to revive the trees and animal life that were devasted by Pauline in 97, a true labor of love.
I miss my new friends very much and I am counting the days until I return in December. If any readers are heading to Zipolite between now and December, please pass on a message to Giorgio who resides at Dario's place. Please tell him photos will be on the way soon and to take good care of his arm so he can make a speedy recovery.
Again, thanks for the website Tom and thank you for the opportunity to tell the world of the closest place to Paradise I have ever found on this planet Earth!
Until December........
Deborah Hinojosa
Houston, TX
monjusi@att.net
January 2000
The place pictured in the "Name this Place" note from Stephen Blutter is Roca Blanca. Not sure if they have phone service for reservations or not.
Also, I agree completely with the advice you gave Keith in the Young Crowd? note - I will be 40 this March and will continue to visit and enjoy Zipolite.
Marco Wageman
Rochester, Minnesota
mwageman@mayo.edu
January 2000
I then went to look for a bus. There are two terminals in Acapulco, one just north of Parque Papagayo and one N of the Zócalo on Avenida Ejido (Estrella Blanca). The Ejido station has the ONLY buses heading to Escondido or Pochutla. They leave at 3:30 AM! Buy your tickets in advance for $189 Pesos ($21). This is for an 8-9 hour 1st class "semi-directo" bus. It is an older bus with no toilet and stops at a few towns to pick up passengers but there will be no food break or bathroom break unless you ask, and then be quick. Going back west from Pochutla there are five of the same buses going to Acapulco daily and for the same price (there are other "ordinario" second class busses also; not recommended unless you are broke).
Contrary to what the map says this is not a scenic trip, a night journey is best and seemed to be safe and secure. The 1st class semi-directo leaves daily at 6AM, 10AM, 3PM, 7PM, and 10PM. The road west of Escondido is rough for about 100K. You can go to Oaxaca and other points from Pochutla and Escondido. There is a daily bus from Oaxaca to Puerto Angel that arrives and leaves at around 9-10 PM. This rough, winding but scenic route is still quite popular and I heard no bad comments about it. There were quite a few travelers in PA for the New Year and also at playas Zipolite, San Augustinillo, and Mazunte. The Mazunte turtle museum charges $P30 and is a nice tour. The laguna tour further west at playa Ventanilla is $P20 and quite pleasant; be sure to make time to walk this endless stretch of deserted beach. You can get there and back by cab at great expense ($10-15US from PA or Zipolite) but it is a long way and they will pick you up again at a designated time. Besides taxis most travelers use the pick-up truck "collectivos" which will get you from beach to beach ($P3) or beach to Pochutla ($P5) they can be quite crowded but are fun and efficient.
Zipolite is still alive and kicking. The New Year celebration was amazingly calm and well behaved. I saw fewer of the bothersome beach drunks and scarier/hairier ganga bums than in the past. The clientel seems to have gone upscale a notch but is still quite hip. There was not quite as much nudity as last year but thankfully it is still very much allowed. Rooms are becoming more plentiful from $10 and up $US. Hamaca spaces were $1.50-2.00 US per person. Tent space $4-5 US. These should be lower during the less popular times of the year. The vibes were very nice and the rumors I heard of crimes were few. Just use your head. Zipolite is still a beautiful and powerful beach that I would recommend to anyone who can let their hair down, get out of their clothes, watch the sun rise and then do nothing until its time to watch the sunset. If that sounds boring, please stay home.
We used cash machines and travelers checks in Pochutla with no problem. You can get by for $10-15 per day for food, maybe less if you cook your own. Sadly, beers are now about $1-1.25 US. Thanks for letting me post all this. Chao for now.
C-dog
dontfallonme@hotmail.com
January 2000
I had no complaints as far as the ocean. My friend had a problem but he just wigged out. It's all about staying cool and relaxed when times are tough. Study the water patters before you even wade out, 'cuase that's when it can really get to ya'. Also I found that at least in this time of the year (early Jan) there's like a low tide earlier in the day and you can go out far in ankle deep water. Oh and if you do decide to go out stay close to the surfers, they know what they are doing and they can help ya out if times get tough.
So anyone in southern Oaxaca can't turn down something as wonderful and beautiful as Zipolite; enjoy!
Stephan, el guero
chido@rocketmail.com
January 2000
If you were looking for a place where you can be free, not expending much money and also get some butt-tan , this is for you... This place breaks any concept you had of a beach vacation, if you're accustomed to stuff like like Acapulco or similar, this is different. At first I stayed at La Choza, a very nice place, and very cheap , but then I started wandering over and finally stayed on a humble but beautiful place in front of the beach where I met some friends living as a commune. It's a place full of strange characters, smiling and smoking as you pass through the town. Good music in every place, groovy decoration, nice weather (and girls of course), I mean I wanted to take photos every five minutes.
You can sit down at any fire that you see at night, hear some drums and meet people from around the world, leave your old concepts aside and have a taste of how really life is. I live in Mexico City selling oil paintings and artistic stuff, but I'm leaving everything for moving to Zipolite permanently to see what's up , I realized that I wasn't "living" in the city , and in Zipolite and Mazunte I had the best days of my life . If anyone was with me at the rave in Mazunte for new year ,or staying in La Choza those days , please write to me.
Gungu
gungu35@hotmail.com
January 2000
Bueno, antes de llegar a Oaxaca en la última caseta nos regalaron una especie de "pasaporte turístico" con anuncios de los hoteles y promociones, además de un planito de la ciudad indicando que los tiempos de recorrido a Puerto Angel y Puero Escondido eran de 5:30 horas respectivamente, esto posiblemente en Jet, pues salimos a las 10:00 de Oaxaca y llegamos a Puerto Escondido a las 18:30 más o menos. Pasamos a cenar al famoso "Capuchino", el cual no veía desde hacía más de 3 años; definitivamente ya no es lo que fue, es más, el área turística normal, el paseo de turista, los negocios a los lados y el ambiente ya tiende a pareceese al Puerto de Veracruz, huele mal y todo está carísimo.
A esto de las 20:00 salimos por la cerretera 200 rumbo a la Tierra Prometida, fueron los 70 kilómetros más largos de mi vida (y creo que la de los demás también), aquí hago un reconocimiento a mi amigo Jose Manuel Alvarado Kinell, pues SOLO manejó desde Tehuacán hasta Zipol, yo la verdad sincera me abrí por mi dolencia del oido que me tuvo levemente mareado.
Finalmente a las 21:00 arribamos a Zipol, llegamos a casa de Lino (Lola's) y ¿que creen?, resulta que no habían recibido mi carta y no habían reservado y... pues no había cuartos disponibles, así que, tratándo de no exaltarnos decidimos probar surte a ver si en La Choza había algo y si, efectivamente encontramos dos buenas habitaciones, la de $ 120.00 tenía 2 camas matrimoniales, WC con regadera, ventilador de techo, pabellones y mosquiteros, la de $100.00 exáctamente lo mismo pero solo una cama, así que ya Jose Manuel y yo no nos vimos en la penosa necesidad de dormir juntos otra vez, ya podía prestarse a habladas. El que estuvo felíz con una camota para el solito fue mi nene.
Bueno pues al día siguiente fue sesión de quema de nalgas, desnudos mi nene y yo jugueteamos en el mar, lo revolcaron las olas y creo que verdaderamente le gustó; le habíamos comprado una pala y cubeta, así que se dedicó a jugar con la arena, con Pepe, Alma y yo. Se rodaba por la pendiente hasta la playa después de decirnos "adios" a los tres. Cuando le preguntabamos si quería agua decía que no, que mejor una "chela chol" (cerveza Sol), así que de poquitos de habrá tomado como tres el solo.
Entablamos excelentes relaciones con Don Sergio, el propietario de La Choza, nos consiguó la cámara de uno de sus hijos para tomar las fotos que después les haré llegar; le dejé todo el material que he bajado de Internet sobre Zipolite, parte de la información de Tom Penick, mi anterior Website, comentarios de visitantes, mails y otras páginas, todas ellas excelentes para todo aquel que quiera enterarse de algo más lo haga, allí van también mis direcciones de e mail. Después me platicó que Anna Johansson ya había visto el material, lo malo fue que no me percaté y no pude hablar con ella para saludarla.
También fuimos a Gemini a comer Pizza, ya cambió de lugar, la propietaria nos platicó que cambió la casa por otra, no tenía servicio ni pensaba abrir debido a que su hija que la apoya no estaba, pero accedió a prepararnos, así que nos dimos un atracón con pizza "Fernando's" y "Zipolite", el nuevo local está frente al hotel elevado antes de la curva de la entrada a Piña Palmera.
En Zipol la comisa sigue excelente, "La Choza" continua con su magnífico restaurante, también comimos filete de atún con una amiga de la dueña de "Gemini", quien guisa a la leña.
Todas las cosas buenas se acaban y así se nos acabaron los dos días que habíamos destinado para Zipol, hicimos maletas la noche del Jueves 22 y el Viernes 23 a las 08:30 estabamos saliendo rumbo a Huatulco para regresar por el Istmo. La cerretera 200 sigue en buenas condiciones, el tramo entre Puerto Angel y la entrada al aeropuerto de Huatulco está un poco feo, pero después mejora bastante como para mantener una velocidad promedio de unos 90 Km/hr. Solo hay que tener cuidado con el ganado que se atraviesa la carretera, nos encontramos directamente con una recua de burros que obstinadamente se negaban a quitarse del camino.
Por la carretera 200 solo encontramos 1 retén militar, todo amabilidad el suboficial revisó parcamente nuestro equipaje y nos dejó pasar. De todas maneras nos detuvimos a tomar un refresco, ese momento fue aprovechado por Cuquín para maravillarse del "yifle" y el "caaco" de los "mushashos".
Desayunamos ligeramente en "El Oasis", en la Crucecita, sacamos dinero del Bancomer y continuamos hasta Salina Cruz, a donde llegamos sin novedad después de 2:30 horas, según nosotros para despedirnos del Pacífico pero... ¿que creen?, resulta que el H. Ayuntamiento de Salina Cruz traía pleito con sus trabajadores por cuestiones de los aguinaldos y a estos se les ocurrió la pe...regrina idea de cerrar las salidas al istmo. El bloqueo ya llevaba más de 24 horas en forma intermitente y hacía ya más de dos horas que definitivamente no dejaban pasar, así que ya se imaginarán la cola de traileros, autobuses y demás. Estabamos averiguando que y como cuando llegaron a estacionarse junto de nosotros tres pick ups repletas de judiciales que me comentaron que "en unos 20 minutos levantaban a la bola de huevones" y que "a lo mejor había madrazos", así que decididamente nos alejamos del conflicto, cargamos gasolina y nos encaminamos a una playa llamada "La Ventosa", bastante contaminadita por la cercana refinería de Pemex. Estuvimos un rato perdiendo el tiempo viendo el mar, cuando llegaron otros turistas que nos comentaron que el bloqueo ya se había levantado, así que reanudamos el camino con una pérdida de tiempo de 2:30 horas.
Finalmente, a las 24:00 del Miércoles llegamos a Orizaba, cansados pero muy contentos por nuestro viaje; encontramos el horrible clima de Orizaba por estas fechas, pero ¡que importa!, ya estabamos en casita.
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz.
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/1637/
www.geocities.com/fantasmon_mx/index.htm
www.itorizaba.edu.mx/~nemo
Orizaba, México
Diciembre 1999
UNOBOCA@webtv.net
December 1999
Deborah Hinojosa
Houston, Texas
monjusi@att.net
December 1999
sunbeltentinc@gateway.net
December 1999
Susan Vigh
taba@worldchat.com
Hamilton Ontario Canada
December 1999
Kris
kwdesign@peconic.net
December 1999
Keith
k_wheeler@yahoo.com
December 1999
Zipolite is for budget-minded, street-wise types who want to rub elbows with a fun-loving, pot-smoking, nude-bathing, eclectic, international group. Oh, I didn't say anything about age. It just happens that a lot of people who fit this description and are able to take off for a month or two are young, but it is not the rule. You will find people of your age and older there as well. -Tom

Can anyone identify this place on the western side of Zipolite? I'd like to make a reservation for New Years.
Stephen Blutter
stevenb@pcc.net
December 1999
That might be Lyoban. Bar, music, restaurant and rooms upstairs? - Kris Warrenburg, kwdesign@peconic.net
masunte@yahoo.com
rinconcita@yahoo.com
November 1999
Also, I am looking for Martín and Jamil Naf. Martín is a jewelry maker, and he and his son Jamil lived at Lo Cosmico... One more thing I forgot the name of a bar/restaurant that was on the beach ... they had a great happy hour and the proprietor was an Argentinean by the name of Marcello. Anyone know the name of that great place? Thanks!
Alice
sheshe6030@aol.com
November 1999
Does anyone have info on Piña Palmera which I believe is in Zipolite? I tried to e-mail them but it was returned, I would like to volunteer. I am a carpenter/builder and I also teach Martial Arts, my specialty is with children, most recently at camp Winnarainbow with Wavy Gravy in Mendocino County, California.
Lorenzo Martinez
Bodo420@aol.com
November 1999
I'd like to know if there is any way that this outdoor living under the stars is still available on Zipolite. Is it still this quaint? I have always gone on Christmas and stayed for 2-3 weeks. I am thinking of going again this year. Will this area be overbooked in the hotels? Or since I'm willing to do the under the stars routine, can I find a family on the beach that will accommodate me. This was the most relaxing vacation ever, and I'd like to re-live my past into the Millennium.
There was a French restaurant a little ways down the beach at the top of a hill that served crepes (a husband a wife deal). It was great, does it still exist?
Thanks for the help, and a special thanks for this fantastic site, I love it.
Tony
tpatti1@aol.com
October 1999
Mail service was interrupted by the weather, so no mail was going into or coming out of Pto Angel for awhile.
Bill Brecheen
whbassoc@earthlink.net
October 1999
Planning to leave Oregon in mid-November and open up mid-December. I have driven all over Southern Mexico, but never in the North, is it best to go thru Texas and down the Gulf side? Mexican friends tell me the West coast is slow and Guerrero very dangerous. Please help me with any info you can gracias!
Darrell Cecil
darrellsue@webtv.net
October 1999
The fastest (but most boring) way is down the Gulf coast, cross the isthmus east of the mountains on Hwy 185 and head back west along the Oaxacan coast. -Tom
Chante Bergmann
Austin, TX
chanteb@hotmail.com
October 1999
See the June 2000 reply. -Tom
Somebody could tell me how are the situation in Zipolite after the constant rains and the earthquake? somebody know about Lino and her family from Lola's Hotel?
Rafa
rafanune@df1.telmex.net.mx
October 1999
Do you have any idea how to contact Francisco, or was it Fernando(?) at the Roca Blanca hotel? We stayed in one of his rooms last time and had a great time and felt secure (a lot of people were getting ripped off). There's a guy named Chico who works there, a Brazilian who speaks English well. We want to make a reservation because of the millenium - I believe its going to be mobbed.
Steven Blutter
steevenb@worldnet.att.net
October 1999
Jon Spooner
spooner@netmix.com
October 1999
JSieg10599@aol.com
September 1999
Siobhan & Joe
London
hgp@btinternet.com
September 1999
aries0777@yahoo.com
September 1999
Since hurricane Pauline Mazunte hasn't had phone service, so it's difficult to make reservations but neither is it essential unless you are there during the high tourist seasons. If you'd feel more secure having reservations, you can call the Buena Vista hotel in Puerto Angel (958) 431-04 and ask tell them you want to make reservations for their Mazunte place - the Alta Mira. They will probably connect you to Erica who works there at the Buena Vista but who is also the daughter of the wonderful woman (Doña Rosa) who takes care of the Alta Mira Bungalows and who prepares all meals there too - breakfast and dinner only.
The price at the Alta Mira is 300 pesos per bungalow and 50 pesos extra for each person over 2 people (current exchange rate is 9.3 pesos to the dollar.) At times this price is negotiable especially during lower seasons or if you're real nice to Doña Rosa :-)
Even though the meals are not cheap in Mexican terms (between 3 and 6 dollars per person) they are delicious and Rosa individually prepares each plate. And you can't beat the view!
Tim & Annette Gulick
mexikids@edomex1.telmex.net.mx
September 1999
Thanks!
Steven
steevenb@worldnet.att.net
September 1999
I visited your site on the web, and I saw you knowledge about the region. So we are looking for a nice, and comfortable hotel or rooms, service of Breakfasts, dilutes drinkable, etc.
We need information for 40 people. Could you help us? If you know a place, adgress or host, please contact us.
Rene Bautista
Mexico, D.F 01(5) 6-04-34-88
rbmtez@colossus.rhon.itam.mx
August 1999
Tasha Vasluski
nedd@eritter.net
August 1999
please give him my addresses:
PC Media Consult Heinrich Geisler
Media- und Marketingplanung
PF 1305
82524 GERETSRIED
KARL-LEDERER-PLATZ 16
82538 GERETSRIED
Germany
Tel.: ISDN (08171) 9 63 63
FAX (08171) 9 63 65
I am looking also for a Mexican actor who played a little role in a movie about Frida Kahlos life Frida kahlo and Diego Rivera are sitting in a cinema watching the actual world news the show Hitler in an open Mercedes Cabriolet with his right arm lifted up showing the "German greeting". Behind the two celebrities is a guy who starts applauding as he sees Hitler. Frida turns around and slaps him in his face I think his name (the actor's name) is Pedro Altamirano. He used to come around Xmas every year to that beach. Is there any chance to find him?
Heinrich Geisler
pcmgeisler@t-online.de, PMGEISLER@aol.com
August 1999
Rafael Núñez
rafanune@df1.telmex.net.mx
Julio 1999
Hayes Porterfield
hayp@ime.net
June 1999
Doug Johnston
DOUGIA@webtv.net
June 1999
Fijate que lo que me inquieto a conocer Zipolite es que conocí a una chava que me "movio el tapete" "fall in love" y ella ha ido mucho a esa playa y la verdad me comanta que es un paraiso.... Bueno pienso ir muy pronto a Zipo y poder conocer gente y hacer mucho amigos.
Gracias nuevamente y felicidades por haber conocido el Paraiso.
R. Cisneros
ROBERTO_CISNEROS@gruma.com
June 1999
But the most incredible thing of all down there was the warmth and love that complete strangers gave to my family. I am most thankful and indebted to Gloria for taking me in and giving me a new outlook on life. If anyone can give her a message please tell her that Karma loves her and that we are trying to save money to come back soon.
If anyone is thinking about having a baby down there its the most beautiful place for a child's first sounds and sights, but besides registering the child with the Mexican gov't for a birth certificate, remember to stop in Mexico City at the US embassy and register there too. You cannot get an American birth cert. or S.S. card otherwise. There is no way to do it from the states! I even tried to go through my congressman. Needless to say, we're stopping in Mexico City on our way to Zipolite. I would rather have those extra days at the beach. Send my love to the whole Family at Shambala.
Karma Swislow
KarmaYetta@aol.com
June 1999
Two, that always will come back
Evi & Gerd
Gerhard.Groeneveld@t-online.de
June 1999
Bill Barker
bbilredbar@aol.com
May 1999
Condonacion de la deuda
En el marco del Jubileo del Año 2000, al que convoco el papa Juan Pablo II en 1994, y tomando en cuenta que la deuda externa representa un grave obstaculo para el desarrollo, los representantes de los institutos de vida religiosa en Mexico se comprometieron la semana pasada a impulsar una campaña nacional de recoleccion de firmas, para pedir a los paises acreedores la condonacion total de la deuda de las naciones mas pobres, y en forma parcial la de Mexico.
Al finalizar en Orizaba su XXXIV Asamblea, expresaron en un mensaje al pueblo mexicano, que un modo concreto y eficaz de vivir la justicia en America "es el llevar adelante la peticion que hace el Papa sobre la condonacion de la deuda, a la que se han unido varios paises como Francia y España, y ya no pocos episcopados, entre ellos el nuestro". Creemos -añaden- "que hay que denunciar la complejidad del problema: se debe a corrupcion, mala administracion, a elevados intereses, a politicas financieras especulativas, a gobernantes irresponsables y al enriquecimiento de personas concretas, en lugar de haber sido dedicada a sostener los cambios necesarios para el desarrollo del pais".
La campaña se suma a las que con objetivos muy semejantes realizan en mas de 30 paises muchos grupos, instituciones y personas de diversas orientaciones politicas, religiosas e ideologicas, y tiene como finalidad liberar de la pesada carga de la deuda externa a mas de mil millones de personas. Una meta inmediata es entregar en junio de este ano en Colonia al grupo de los siete, 22 millones de firmas.
Como afirma el Episcopado frances en un documento reciente sobre el tema, muchos de los responsables de las grandes instituciones financieras saben que la deuda de los paises pobres jamas podra ser reembolsada, y sin embargo dudan en decidir su anulacion. "Todavia la presion de la opinion publica no es tan fuerte para ello". Ademas, con la crisis monetaria mundial, que afecta a paises emergentes como Indonesia, o en reconversion, como Rusia, tienen otras preocupaciones. "Los paises mas pobres corren una vez mas el riesgo de ser olvidados si nadie habla en su favor. El Jubileo 2000 es la ocasion para luchar contra este olvido".
Por lo que se refiere a America Latina, del 25 al 28 de enero de este año tuvo lugar en Honduras un importante encuentro de diversos representantes de la Iglesia y de la sociedad civil de 17 paises del continente, para lanzar la campaña a nivel latinoamericano, que lamentablemente tuvo muy pocas repercusiones en la prensa. Al final se emitio la Declaracion de Tegucigalpa, en la que, entre otras cosas, se afirma que la deuda externa de America Latina, cuyo monto se calcula en alrededor de 706 mil millones de dolares: cuyo servicio alcanzo ya entre 1990 y 1997 la cantidad de 581 mil millones de dolares, y por la que tendrian que pagarse solo este año 123 mil millones mas, es impagable, Ilegitima e inmoral.
Impagable, se dice, porque matematicamente no hay formula para hacerlo. Dos decadas completas de refinanciamientos, imposibles de ser cumplidos por los paises en desarrollo, lo demuestran claramente. Ilegitima, "porque se origino principalmente en decisiones de gobiernos dictatoriales, no elegidos por el pueblo, o en gobiernos formalmente democraticos, pero corruptos, sin ademas ser utilizada en beneficio del pueblo al que hoy se le exige su costo". Ilegitima, porque crecio amparada por tasas de interes y condiciones de negociacion impuestas por los gobiernos y bancos acreedores, que negaron reiterada y abusivamente el derecho de asociacion de los gobiernos deudores, aun cuando ellos si lo hicieran a traves de verdaderos carteles de acreedores (Club de Paris, Comite de Gestion), respaldados ademas por la coercion economica del Fondo Monetario Internacional y del Banco Mundial.
"La orden era clara y determinante: ustedes negocian individualmente, nosotros negociamos en bloque".
Es inmoral, porque los gobiernos tienen que destinar un alto porcentaje de los recursos del Estado a pagar la deuda externa, afectando mas que nada a los programas sociales, a los salarios de los trabajadores, generando el desempleo y afectando gravemente el funcionamiento de la economia. "Hoy existe una enorme deuda social en salud, educacion y nutricion del pueblo. Los estados gastan hoy en el area social 60 por ciento menos por habitante que en 1970".
Jubileo 2000 Mexico
Parte del movimiento global de Jubilee 2000, cuya demanda es la cancelación de las deudas externas de los paises mas pobres antes del año 2000.
Tu reto es informar a todos sobre el movimiento de Jubileo 2000 y de la situacion intolerable de las deudas del mundo pobre. Nosotros te enviaremos una carta cada semana, informandote de las actividades, las deudas y sus efectos tragicos. Proximamente te informaremos la fecha de las manifestaciones en junio. Para organizarnos es importante que nos informes de tu grupo y su plan de accion. Dinos el nombre de tu grupo de accion. Correo Electrónico jubi20@yahoo.com, Direccion postal; Jubileo 2000, Apartado 2, C.P. 70900 Pochutla, Oaxaca Mexico.
David Soltero
davidsol@usa.net
May 1999
JSieg10599@aol.com
May 1999
MANIFESTACIONES MUNDIALES   A mediados de Junio, en Alemania se celebrara la Cumbre Internacional en la que estaran presentes los siete paises mas ricos del mundo. En ella, Jubileo 2000 Europa, se manifestara y presentara una peticion avalada por mas de 22 millones de personas, siendo esta la mas grande de la historia. Jubileo 2000 Mexico mostrara su solidaridad con cadenas humanas, que representan las cadenas de deuda, en los pueblos y ciudades de nuestro pais. ¡ACTUA AHORA!, manifiesta tu reprobacion de las deudas que matan, hacen sufrir y explotan a millones de personas. Forma un grupo de accion.
Nicaragua tiene una deuda externa de US$5,929 billones, principalmente generada por la guerra civil de los 80´s, de los cuales US$106 millones fueron prestados por el gobierno EEUU. En 1988 Nicaragua contaba con US$58 por persona para programas de salud, disminuyendo para 1997 a US$14. Durante este periodo, tuvo que pagar aproximadamente un millon de dolares diarios a los prestadores internacionales.
Despues del huracan Mitch, la deuda de Nicaragua fue revisada por el Club de Paris (una reunion de los ministros financieros de los paises mas ricos del oeste). Estos suspendieron los pagos a corto plazo, pero no redujeron la deuda externa de Nicaragua. Muchos de los apoyos de emergencia enviados a Nicaragua despues del huracan, resultaron ser prestamos, con altos intereses; creando una crisis mayor a la de 1997.
El mes pasado el Presidente Clinton, se disculpo por la intervencion financiera estadounidense en las "guerras sucias" de America Latina. Sin la cancelacion de las deudas generadas durante estas guerras, las disculpas son insultos, son palabras vacias.
La campania intensiva de Jubileo 2000 ha logrado resultados. Varios Paises Europeos, principalmente Francia, han cancelado o reducido deudas. Sin embargo es solo el comienzo.
¿COMO ACTUAR?   Tu reto es informar a todos sobre el movimiento de Jubileo 2000 y de la situacion intolerable de las deudas del mundo pobre. Nosotros te enviaremos una carta cada semana, informandote de las actividades, las deudas y sus efectos tragicos. Proximamente te informaremos la fecha de las manifestaciones en junio. Para organizarnos es importante que nos informes de tu grupo y su plan de accion. Dinos el nombre de tu grupo de accion. Correo Electronico jubi20@yahoo.com, Direccion postal; Jubileo 2000, Apartado 2, C.P. 70900 Pochutla, Oaxaca Mexico. Por mas informacion ver el Jubileo 2000 internacional web site o la pagina de Jubileo 2000 Mexico.
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Pina Palmera" A.C.
E-mail: pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 1999
Jubileo quiere decir aniversario o fiesta. Antiguamente los países gobernados por un monarca, consideraron el cumpleaños del rey o la reina como un jubileo. En muchos países el rey celebró la ocasión, perdonando criminales y cancelando deudas que los campesinos debieran a sus patrones. Así un Jubileo llegó a significar una ocasión para perdonar, cancelar deudas y hacer un nuevo inicio.
¿ Cuál es la deuda que deberíamos cancelar? En los años sesenta y setenta el Fondo Monetario Internacional junto con los Bancos Internacionales prestó billones de dólares a los países pobres de América Latina, Asia y África. Hubo poco control de los préstamos. Mucho del dinero fue robado por los político y militares de los países recibidores y por empresarios internacionales. El poco dinero que llegó al pueblo, se gastó rápido en vez de invertirlo en proyectos a largo plazo. La inversión no apoyó a la gente ni generó el crecimiento económico necesario para pagar las deudas.
Para recibir los préstamos, los países recibidores tuvieron que comprometerse a un calendario de pagos, no solamente del dinero recibido sino también de altos intereses. En muchos casos los prestadores pusieron tasas de intereses de más del veinticinco por ciento. Aunque parece que los países ricos del mundo están apoyando económicamente a los países en desarrollo, por el contrario, es falso. Entre 1983 y 1989 los países en desarrollo pagaron $242,000,000,000.00 de dólares, más de lo que recibieron en apoyo.
¿Quiénes son Jubileo 2000, y qué dicen? Jubileo 2000 es una organización internacional donde convergen gentes de diferentes culturas, clases sociales y religiones. Entre sus promotores cuentan con el Papa, Madona, Mohamed Ali y otras figuras públicas y políticas. El propósito de Jubileo 2000 es persuadir al Fondo Monetario Internacional a celebrar el fin del milenio cancelando todo las deudas pendientes de los países en desarrollo. Así ellos podrían empezar el tercer milenio sin las cadenas de deuda que les amarran a la pobreza. Además todo el mundo podría empezar el nuevo milenio en un ambiente más justo, más caritativo y más digno.
Jubileo 2000 cuenta con gente de 42 países, entre sus promotores se encuentra el Papa, Madona, Muhammad Ali y el Dalai Lama. Sin embargo no es suficiente, también tenemos que contar contigo, con tu familia y todos tus conocidos. Para sumarte a nosotros, circula esta carta por correo electrónico, fax, correo o a mano. Si quieres más información, favor de contactarnos en el siguiente correo electrónico: jubi20@yahoo.com
Atentamente Jubileo 2000, México
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Pina Palmera" A.C.
E-mail: pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 1999
Silvie Jauvin
jauvins@FAS.UMontreal.CA
May 1999
Bert has been found. -Tom
chinacatcabin@webtv.net
Jeffrey Bacon
April 1999
That's all. Just a little note to tell you I appreciated the site. Hasta luego amigo.
Jaime Michele
aajaimer@yahoo.com
April 1999
Sara Vigh
svigh@hotmail.com
Ontario, Canada
April 1999
It's urgent, because I'm in love with Cesar and I would like to invite him to me before I return to him in Zipolite.
Cesar has been found. -Tom
Katja Hrobat
Slovenia
hrokat@hotmail.com
April 1999
Every body was cool and funny, surtout le mec de Valleyfield (Quebec) qui fabrique , vend des bijoux et de la biere sur la plage...
Merci et Hasta la proxima ves !
Al.
AAlain2850@aol.com
March 1999
I think Zipolite is more interesting than Huatulco, because it's a paceful place to enjoy. I met people from USA, Finland, England, France and Spain, I think that you could make friends if you wish it. Probably I'll go again, next July. Who wants to come with me? (I live in Mexico City).
¡J'aimerais faire amis du tout le monde!
Me encantó Zipolite, fui en Julio del 98 y aunque tengo 24 años, pienso que no hay demasiados riesgos como para ser necesario ir con alguien mas.
Todo lo que conoci de Oaxaca me pareció maravilloso en especial la iglesia de Santo Domingo y el museo que se encuentra junto a ella, El Tule es increible y Monte Alban Y Mitla también. Cuando fui a Zipolite pude ver rios, montañas y mucha pero mucha vegetacion. Aproveche para viajar de noche y conocí mucha gente de varios paises sumamente amable, creo que en ese lugar puedes conocer gente de todo el mundo. Lo chistoso es que se notaba inmediatamente que persona era de otro país y que persona era de México (las chavas latinas no se quitan la ropa). Hice amigos de Francia, Finlandia Y Estados Unidos.
Las habitaciones son baratas (60 pesos por noche) y lo más peligroso es el mar pues estuve a punto de colgar los tenis, las olas ya me estaban llevando mar adentro, como pude (como en media hora) llegué a la playa. Creo que le hace falta señalización pues pude apreciar cómo se metian a rescatar a unas personas; pero capaz que no se percata uno de nada hasta que llegue el cuerpo a la playa. Por eso: Mucho Ojo.
Es muy posible que vaya otra vez en Julio ¿Alguien se interesa en ir conmigo? Yo lo/la puedo llevar.
luisferrm@correoweb.com
March 1999
However, what was to come was worse...the third night of our stay we woke up at 4am to banditos stealing all our stuff. They took our backpacks which contained clothes, shoes, books and cameras... not a single picture of the trip as a result. Fortunately we all slept with our money belts under our pillows, or they would have gotten them too. We were very lucky we weren't physically harmed... when the banditos heard us wake up, they flew out the window. Now, don't get me wrong, Shambala is a beautiful place.. awesome food and friendly people. But I would seriously recommend sleeping up in the hammocks rather than the beachfront cabana. It has no locks when you are sleeping. I'm sure we were not the first to be robbed, nor the last.
The riptide in Zipolite is horrifying. We watched two people drown in the waters the second day there. As for the peace and magic everyone talks about...I couldn't find it anywhere. There were people everywhere and restaurants from one end of the beach to the other. It was not the Zipolite I had in mind at all.
We visited Mazunte, which is a 15 minute taxi away...now there was peace and magic!! It was much smaller. I would highly recommend visiting this paradise. And the turtle sanctuary is worth checking out too.
Then we decided to head back to Puerto Escondido where we stayed for the remaining week of our holiday. I would definitely visit PE again. We stayed on Playa Zicatela. We quickly became addicted to Carmen's pastries at La Cafecita ( especially her mango pastry), and everything on the menu at La Gota da Vida. It has an excellent vegetarian menu!!! We stayed at Hotel Ines. It cost us $10 Canadian each per night (4 people sharing a room). It has a beautiful pool and the rooms are immaculate. In fact this room was only $2 more per night than the one in Zipolite (which had no private shower or toilet). We danced away a few nights to a salsa band at La Rumba.. a bar in town...lots of fun.
Even though we dealt with a lot of disaster this trip, I don't regret a single moment of it. Possessions can be replaced, but the memories and the stories are worth every lost item. For any of you heading off to these parts....be safe and enjoy.
schlack@islandnet.com
March 1999
Julie
bedaine2@total.net
March 1999